Arthur Christmas (2011) ft. Alonso Duralde

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you remember that? You're in a hurry in the morning, you're wearing your favorite shirt,

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: grab a coffee and... a bag.

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: No panic. Pusil disks save the day.

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: With their powerful formula, they eliminate the hard-knockest flares themselves

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: for deep, pure washing.

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Just throw the disk into the trash.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And the rest? That makes your washing machine.

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you've always got your best.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Try to keep the best disks of the Pusil.

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Save the range of children.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Love.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, um, what's in the company?

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Artman.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Artman Christmas movies!

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Dan and I despise Artman Christmas movies.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Alonzo and if you thought Dan was a monster before, just wait.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the Deck The Hallmark podcast!

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, well.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everybody.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to another episode of Deck The Hallmark.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's another week as well.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Final week of August is finally here.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you believe it?

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: This year has flown by.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're under four months to Christmas now.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We've already had the August at Christmas party episode.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Of Christmas morning.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I market.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just flying by here.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Doing a Christmas movie here on a Monday.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: One of my all time faves.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: If you listen to this list, if you listen to this list, you'll know that Alonzo put this on his top 10 Christmas movies since the 90s and I was embarrassed for him.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's, but I will say this Alonzo, I was more than happy to go in with fresh eyes and give it a fresh take and try my best here.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I was more than happy to do that.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Brandon watched it with me.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He can attest.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I can.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I can attest.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I can indeed attest.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to dive into it.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also excited to be heading into, as Alonzo often says, the Burr months.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's when things begin to really get real.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The months where we don't talk about Bill Burr.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We talk about them all year except for...

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And after that we shut it down.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Our hands are tied.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the months where you don't eat oysters.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He complains about it, but...

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There's just one more thing.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting very excited though about the marathon.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We've announced it on the social media.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously there's holiday season heading into season seven, Dan.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We're crazy.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy to think about.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to be live streaming of course to kick off the holiday season for 24 plus straight hours.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We're all going to be in a house together which is going to be a lot of fun.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: What are you most excited about?

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: What are you most scared about the whole real world thing?

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it the cameras in the bathroom or what is it that you're most concerned...

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Just go ahead and clear this up.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: There are no cameras in the bathroom.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But also...

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, fine.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll return them.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_03]: This is your fourth marathon, Alonzo?

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Your fourth...

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We did 19...

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: We did 19, 20, 21.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And then Alonzo started coming in 22...

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: 21.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, 21, 22, 23, 24.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, so this is your fourth.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: 20...

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: What a time.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to making...

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm making cookies.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: What could be more Hallmark Christmas than that?

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, like I've already got...

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I asked the general to start sort of an online spreadsheet work because I need some intel about what's in this kitchen.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: How many cookie sheets?

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What size?

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Are there measuring cups?

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all that sort of stuff.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is called being prepared right here.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what this is.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have not thought of any of this stuff.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's called show prep.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've heard of it.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, listen, listen.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's heard of show prep like I have.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Big deal around here.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so I'm sure Brian and I will be like taking turns getting into that oven

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know, I'm digging up as many good like cookie recipes that do not involve nuts...

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: ...for Mr. Special and...

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, Mr. Special.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You know?

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's gonna be great.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Could we...

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Dare we try to make the Save the Town Brownies from the book?

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Dare we try it?

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking maybe we make the eggnog from the book.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Dare we try it?

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: We can do it all.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Every year at your Christmas party, I'm gonna hit at the parties that I throw.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: If you know two things about me, it is maker of things in the home and party thrower.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Those two things are my jam.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Sweetest.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Look, I had to write fan fiction for that cooking category.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to tell you.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That whole chapter is, you know, a premise.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Very excited about it.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think about it often and then just kind of makes me smile.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Just thinking about it.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not a surprise anybody, but I'm pretty unbearable leading up to mid-October

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: starting right about now.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very giddy.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's more and more info is coming out about the Christmas stuff is coming.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just...

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Every day is a new adventure.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And you all like to juggle like Paramount Plus now?

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Hallmark Plus on top of...

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell me Paramount Plus is getting in the game.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I wouldn't say they probably will, but yeah, you got Hallmark Plus on top of, you know,

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: your standard Hallmark and Mystery.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, it's going to be a...

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So all of the days work around here at the Bramble Jam Podcast.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: A full plate for you kids.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, not all heroes wear capes and I understand it.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes we gotta...

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you have to cover the chicken sisters and somebody's got to do it.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: They can't, you can't go uncovered.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And we ain't chicken.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: No, we're not chicken.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We...

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like, we've been saying for years when are they going to just...

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_03]: When is Hallmark finally going to get their crap together and release three Jane Mysteries

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: in a month?

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_03]: When are they going to do it?

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank God for Hallmark Plus.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What about the Dune Bay?

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Danube.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Danube.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we've been saying Danube.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it Danube?

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it can be Danube, yeah.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It can be one of those two.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It can't be Danube or whatever I say.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Dune Bay, no.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It can't be.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's that's too far.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's out of the question.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Dune Bay.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk Arthur Christmas.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Originally came out in the United Kingdom, the UK as they call it, November 11th.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you just say?

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I just said as they call it and then it made me laugh.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I made myself laugh.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: November 11th, 2011.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then a couple weeks later in the United States, November 23rd, 2011.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the theaters that it was premiered in and I apologize.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want to know something like this.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you that the job of Santa isn't just a jolly old man and a slave, but it is

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: a prestigious family business that's been handed down generation to generation.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what Arthur Christmas is going to tell us about.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The current Santa Malcolm Claus as he is named is the on his 70th Christmas Eve mission.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But at this point it's a bit more ceremonial than it is anything else.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a high tech slave, the S1, a squad of high tech elves that basically have taken

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: over all the heavy listing lifting and he just kind of has to, you know,

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Listing would work too.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Check that list twice in fact.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Malcolm's oldest son, Steve, is practically running the North Pole like a drill sergeant

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and runs it all and tells everybody what to do and all that good stuff.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: While his youngest, Arthur from Arthur's Christmas is stuck answering Santa's mail,

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but you might think that's a bad thing.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Arthur loves the mail room this year despite some elves accidentally dropping,

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, disaster strikes when an elf accidentally drops a present from the

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: high tech S1 during a delivery and that is a bike.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's for a girl named Gwen and no one notices it and everybody thinks that the job has been

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: done.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We did it.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Another Christmas in the books, but Arthur who personally replied to Gwen's letter

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: assuring her that Santa is indeed real is devastated that she is not going to get

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: her gift so he pleads Malcolm, Dad, Steve, can we please go to the S1 and make this

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: right?

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve says no big deal.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This is whatever it's one kid out of billions.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that we have then Miss Moore is really a miracle.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So what's the big deal?

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve's just annoyed that his dad, despite thinking that he was going to retire,

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: is not going to retire so he definitely does not want to do this emergency delivery

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and Dad's old.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Dad just wants to go and take a load off.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So enter Grand Santa, Malcolm's father used to be Santa as well and he's definitely

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: interested in going on this trip if for no other reason than to prove that the old way

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: of doing things is just as good.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: If not better than all this high tech gear.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I need it then.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need it now.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We can deliver this gift.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Arthur is pumped that he is going to be able to go and deliver this gift.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They dust off the old Eve wooden sleigh reindeer led by reindeer with magic.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Make Santa great again.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly right.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And they head off with Arthur, Grand Santa and a stowaway elf.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He really loves gift wrapping, a lot of gift wrapping.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't go great at all really.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They encounter some lions.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They're mistaken for aliens.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole now everybody is looking for potential alien encounters across the world

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's a lot of international frenzy going on.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: While all this is happening, Steve is busy trying to prove that he's the right choice for Santa

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and he says you know what?

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I can do this.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to do it.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So he decides we got to get a replacement gift out there.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And his dad is like I'm going along with you.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a bit of a battle there between father and son.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's basically saying I can still do this job.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not too old for the job.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm as good as I once was.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly right.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I was as good as I ever was.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately though, wrong address.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He ain't.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Wrong address.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Dad doesn't quite know how to actually work the S1 and puts in the wrong address.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What can you do?

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually though Arthur and the crew they end up stranded on a beach and Arthur is just sad.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He's losing his Christmas spirit.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Some might say there's my story once but not anymore.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it is.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Not anymore.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Try your best buddy.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You'll get there.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well whatever.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: One step at a time.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: At least you admit you have a problem though.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: No I'm saying some.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You said it once was your story.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I said some might say.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a first step.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been going to the meetings?

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been going to the meetings.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been going to the meetings in the Nativity?

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been going?

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Going to the meetings in the Nativity.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Good.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So Arthur though sad decides gotta give this one last go.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to push aside all of my phobias and fear and I'm going to make sure that this happens.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: As Don is quickly approaching Arthur manages to recover the sleigh and get to where he

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: needs to go with the bike.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But who also is there is Steve and Malcolm and they are all going at the same time trying

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to out do one another you know Santa stuff to make sure that this child gets the gift

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but really to make sure that they are the heroes of this story.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They all deliver the gift and they take a moment and they actually watch the child

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: get the gift and open it and as it is at this point Steve looks over at his brother

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and realizes the joy of delivering presence means so much more to him than it does to himself.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And so maybe it is maybe it's Arthur who should be Santa next because I can crush

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: the tech stuff and I'm really good at what I do.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I should keep doing that and Malcolm sees this as well.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Steve steps aside and Malcolm is going to retire and Arthur is going to be the next Santa.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The S1 is renamed the EV in honor of the old sleigh pulled by 5000 reindeer

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and Steve is now running the show back up at the North Pole and Santa Malcolm has retired

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and everyone is happy and now my friends was Arthur Christmas.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We did it.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a quick break we'll come back and we'll break this movie down here on DECTOHOLMARK.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everybody welcome back we're talking Arthur Christmas here on a Monday.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Very excited we are taking a journey back to some movies that maybe we you know came up before

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: we even started doing the show.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had the opportunity to review such as Arthur Christmas and we're going to start with a hot take.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to share exactly how he felt about this movie.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: People that listen to the show obviously as Dan mentioned know Alonso's love of this movie

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: as it ended up in his top 10 post 90s Christmas 90s.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay post 80s.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Post 80s yes.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's one way to say that.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But what are your thoughts now that you've rewatched it here in 2024.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah for years now when people have asked me like oh what's you know what are some great Christmas movies that have come out since your book was published.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Have yourself a movie the Christmas 2010 one of the first things that generally comes to mind is Arthur Christmas this came out the next year in 2011 and I think it's great and and I think it holds up like why watch it again for this is probably like the six or seven time I've seen it always makes me a little misty eyed I always think it's funny.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It I love the kind of British humor of it I love the.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that every generation sort of shapes Santa in their own image in terms of technology and culture and history and whatnot.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the way that this movie kind of tackles the Santa lineage and talks about, you know, just the specifics of how the toys get delivered and all that kind of thing.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just think it's really charming.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's a movie I would show to kids it's a movie I would show to adults.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's in the rotation for me every year or two I go back and watch it again so yeah big big fans still a big fan big fan.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Brian how about you.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You and me both Alonzo I love this movie I watch this movie every year I didn't watch it in 2011 I found it.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I probably a handful of years later 2015 2016 somewhere around then I watched for the first time and I was like this movie is awesome.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it looks awesome as you said it is funny there's lots of chuckles to be had and it is quite heartwarming at the end of it and I agree there's something about the beginning of this movie that is just really fun to think about.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know we often talk about how our Santa Claus is Tim Allen and that is how it that's the North Pole.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how the how it all would work.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And this movie I think has a similar thing like you see it and you're like oh that you know what there technology has evolved since Tim Allen's days how would technology influence and be integrated into the story of Santa and his Christmas Eve mission.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought that this was a really clever and interesting way to tackle that.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately at the end kind of combining the two ways of of thinking there the big ship it's fast but also the reindeer we what about the reindeer so something a combination of those two things was really cool at the end of this movie and it made made me as they say at the end of this movie quite happy as well.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Dana as they say they all say quite happy as well that's what they say everyone says that they were happy.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I'll say about Arthur Christmas.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had seen it in the movie theater I was doing some research on the film and this film was designed and made for a 3D viewing experience.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Now I love a well done 3D movie I love it and watching it three dimensions by the way watching it this time it was evidence that there was a lot of moments a ton of moments in this movie that could have really popped on 3D.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And I did some research on the reviews of this movie in 3D and they are raves that they are like this is a great 3D experience.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that would have added something a dimension if you will for me personally as it stands this movie doesn't really work for me.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Bill Nye I love James McAvoy James Broadbent the whole cast wonderful.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The best read of this movie is that Arthur heals the generational trauma of Santa by reminding them that they all need each other and need parts of what made them good to continue the legacy forward.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that they stick that landing though I the two words that immediately come to mind is after a really quality opening where you have this hall of all these pictures of Santa and this really sweet letter that they are saying.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's written and Arthur responding the word that comes to mind is manic like I told brand watching the next scene like I don't know if it's because I love art and animation and I love what they normally do in their animation that this is bothersome to me but it just feels like it's it doesn't trust itself.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't feel like a heist to me just feels like my eyes are hurting it is it is manic and it's very restless energy like I don't feel like we ever settle into anything.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We're just kind of go go go go go look at all these things flying to the screen whereas in a 3D movie that's wonderful and watching this movie even now like Bill Nye Santa what I remember his name.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Grand Santa Grand Santa. He's terrible. He's pretty terrible human being who isn't great and just is decided he always wants to do it his way.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: The Santa that's still in charge Maxwell or is that his name Maxwell correct Malcolm Malcolm that's it Malcolm also terrible aloof isn't doing his job doesn't know what's going on refuses to pass it along Steve has no heart about him even though he's very very efficient

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: like the read that I always have this movie is is Arthur is trying to restore a magic that was never really there to begin with and I think diving more into that is a better movie is it a kids movie I don't think so but as it stands there are a few funny moments

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: there's some good voice work the end is I did like the ending more this time that I remembered liking it but it's just not for me and I also don't like the animation of the movie I don't know why like this is my least favorite

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: art man animation theatrical release save for maybe flushed away that I looked it up and I was like oh that one wasn't very good you didn't see the you didn't see the soccer one that was I didn't see the soccer one but I like the pirates more than this I think that movie is real funny

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: pirates is great I even kind of like flushed away I will say this about the older Santas I don't think that they've always been terrible I think that Grand Santa has become bitter because he's been shoved aside yeah and I think that Malcolm is just kind of like older and tired and

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and doddering but also stubborn but I don't think that they've I don't think that they were like never into it Steve yes is coldly efficient and I think that needs Arthur to balance him out but I don't know that the movie is trying to say yes the Santas have always been self-assured it takes Arthur to fix them yeah I think that was

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're not saying that but I think it comes across anyway that's my problem is I think the best part of this is they kind of use a little bit of every Santa to make it work at the end that's the best part of this but I just don't think that part is strong enough I just feel like it's really like an Eminem music video

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: like it's very just like we're more worried about the kids whereas most of art men stuff is very slow moving and deliberate and I think I think that might have been tried be willing to admit my expectations probably betray me on this some because I I kind of know what I'm in for with an

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: art man film and this is in my opinion just not not it so there's that all right I suffer all the fields we're talking about what this movie give us this feels a lawn so

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you know I love the characters who really love what they do so like Arthur I just respond to his not just like the way that he writes these letters back to the kids but like his the way he's brimming with enthusiasm just to see his own father return

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: from the trip like how excited like you know dad it's like buddy the elf in a way just like that notion like Santa even though he's you know part of the family it's still exciting to him I love Brian he's you know very efficient you know she is a person who is good at her job you know

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm a terrible gift wrapper and saying three pieces of tape that's really impressive you know moving bicycle so yeah I like they give me a lot of feels at the ending I just always kills me like when they're all standing in that

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: closet watching the girl open or present and Santa realizes he's like Steve you deserve this job but really it should be Arthur and then when when Steve gives him the playing piece and says like I'll be the candle because early in the film when they're playing the board game Santa says well Steve you should be the candle you have such great ideas

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and Steve is kind of in that moment acknowledging I am the idea guy that is my lane that's what I should be doing you are the heart I am the head together we can make you know we can we can really be a great Santa team right right

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I am I love the beginning of this movie as I mentioned I just think that it's it's awesome and it looks cool and all the stuff and it and it's funny Santa just kind of like the idea of having him having to be shown where to put

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the present is really funny it's a very like British World War two veteran Santa you know but who's like getting on in years yeah and then as you mentioned along to the ending when they're watching is just that's perfect

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: perfect moment perfect scene perfect movie I don't know but boy is it good is it good Dan any feels for you if you listened to the force Friday episode sure Friday where Ryan and Brandon gushed about Phantom Menace thank

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: you for that reaction live that was what worth it and the reason that they both he's laughing because he agrees yeah you know anybody else was with him he those two guys the reason that they say that Phantom Menace is better than

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_03]: the first five minutes of this movie you would be like is this the best Christmas animated Christmas movie of all time like you would eat the first five minutes before they before it takes moving the world for Santa to deliver one gift

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: before then and then after it takes so many different broken down versions of technology to get one gift to the person even though they've delivered billions of gifts if you just watch those two things and I'm not saying that as a slight the end of this movie crushes

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and the beginning of this movie is really really solid like it opens and establish as well and it closes really strongly and both of those scenes work for me kind of an equal measure that the for some reason to slow walk down the hall of all the pictures of Santa

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: is really great and then the obviously the end of this movie with all the Santas watching together and realizing that they can be a part of the of the machine moving forward and that they matter and that they're important like yeah yeah of course all of that is amazing so I'm not mad at that

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I also really like Arthur's sweater and Dan had to remind me that it's a cartoon.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so does my my my sister in law is a very very talented.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Knitter in fact is like getting a master's degree in Wow.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that that was the thing you get that's awesome there is and she you know like her her final project is a sweater that she created like she created the pattern everything it's like really gorgeous she's super talented and she's been working on a Christmas

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: sweater for me and we've been kind of throwing ideas back and forth and I actually said I'll tell you the best Christmas sweater that exists isn't Arthur Christmas but it's a cartoon.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that it would work in real life.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But it looks great as a cartoon.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a quick break.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to the way what on the what the homework here on Tech the Hallmark.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You're back.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking Arthur Christmas 2011.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the way what it is where we talk about what in two minutes ago.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait what?

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a long zone.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean again when we do the movie where likes the the the about the Mac the the the machinery of Santa Claus and his gift distribution system there's a lot we have to sort of take as read and I think the movie does a pretty good job of following its own internal logic and there is a

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Trillou in Argentina I looked it up.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So for me the one my one question is a this is a way what or maybe it's a it's a what the hallmark but

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: how old are Arthur and Steve's a great question because we get this sense of like the Santas having their tenure you know like the current Santa has been Santa for 70 years

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and Grand Santa was Santa before that for however long but it's like well how does aging work for you when you clearly die because it's not like there's dozens of other Santas you know milling about the place like at some point they set you out on the ice flow I guess

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know I just obviously aging is different and this isn't a case of like an immortal Santa this is a patriarchal lineage Santa I would love some some idea of how long these guys have been around because like there's a line that Grand Santa has about how Steve telling him you can't fly through Saigon it's a war zone

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like okay well then that means you were around for the 60s but this is the 2010s and Arthur is still has very kind of a child like demeanor and a youthful enthusiasm is like how old is he so that's that's my questions how how old are these folks in the parameters of how Santas live and die in age in this universe

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: sure sure sure I love it I mean this is his this is Malcolm 70th Christmas that he's been Santa so he did it longer than crazy did his great did his dad retire really early yeah because he says he's only like 130 some years old right

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: something like that yeah so he must only done for 50 years man great when do you start though like that's the thing yeah

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: 18 yeah so I got a few one at the beginning we do have this whole thing the elves are down and they're given presence and they have all these different technologies to help know what to give the kids and whether or not a kid is not your nice he kind of hold it up and it scans the kid

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and tells you if it's not your nice and one kid is not quite nice enough and so the elf then turns it onto himself scans him and it comes up as 82% nice which I feel like is low for an elf

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: for an elf is very low like what skeletons does this elf have in his cloths because I was I would have assumed and maybe this is like just expectations I would have assumed that the elves are as good as it gets or as nice as it

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah that's just 82% that's a almost no you don't think so I think you're being racist no I mean I'm kidding I mean being elvist you're being elvist exactly no I think in this movie that you see elves being like they're kind of bitchy to our show like he gets dismissed a lot

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: they're prone to panic apparently so like I think we're given well rounded elves here yes for the most part I'm sure they are nice and they meet the nice meter but they're not perfectly laid out

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I got a good what the homework would be what's the minimum nice like do you gotta be over 80% are there 70% are there 70% nice elves out there I don't know yeah

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe it's like the tomato meter like starting at 60 is where you're you mentioned the tomato meter about that was one of my way what I'll go ahead now like I was getting rotten tomato vibes from this nice naughty meter

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: like the worst thing and Alonzo can attest to this about rotten tomatoes is that score means virtually nothing like 85% means 8.5 out of 10 critics gave this movie a 6 of 10 or better this movie could be a 6 of 10

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: so a movie could have a 100 on rotten tomatoes and every critic in theory could have given it a 6 of 10 so that doesn't really do much that's why you have movies that can go in the 20s and 30s and be good and movies that

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: can be in the 90s and be like yeah that was fine this is worse though because basically what you're telling me is there's a hard line it's like the 85 corridor for snow here in Greenville

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: if you're at 50 I think if you're at 50 you get a toy and if you're at 49 cold cold that is tough man that you have put place your entire year in the balance of a single percentile of good or bad

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that's brutal man which is obviously why the elves are bending the rules and you know scanning themselves

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: even they don't even they don't ridiculous yeah man this isn't good what a tough line there

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I how how worried should we be about the camera access at the North Pole seems to have oh my god this is massive

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: because you know I we have at you know all I sees you when you're we've all consented to Santa we've all consented to Santa being able to see us that when we're sleeping and no one we're awake this is readily available for everybody there it's on it's on

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: CCTV up in the North Pole there's watching these cameras and they have every angle of every place that you could possibly need it is terrifying big brother they have bathrooms they have cameras in the back they do unlike our thing for the marathon

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: well at one point I just have to see if we can return it can return the cameras and we have we might as well use them as well at one point I thought that the elf that loves to wrap gifts they're the ones that are getting all the angles on the

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: bike so I thought so too but then you see an angle where the camera is facing the bicycle and the elves hanging on wrapping the back of the bike and you're like oh no they have an angle that is just this bike that's a problem it's a problem

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: well can you do yeah and if you get if you put a nelfin the shelf in your house so that's on you it's like you're just putting a sewer line directly into your house that's why we got rid of all computers

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: no we're analog here we sure are I know you can watch us on a line from our studio to Alonzo's apartment yeah how we're doing this right and then it's going directly to the folks at Filo

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah that's it then that's it no we actually upload these at a King Coast we send Aaron we send Aaron Shay to a King Coast and it's 24 hours and that's really good because she's got to be there a long time it's pretty slow upload speeds there at the King Coast

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: but again that's privacy matters last but not least listen I know I know she's a gift wrapping elf and she can do things with three pieces of tape that I couldn't dream of you can't wrap a bike you just can't

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care okay you can't I mean I told this a lot but this is a movie even look at that even looking at it with elves and an S1 Starship and everything else is tracking perfectly but then you see the bike at the end and you're like this is where this is a bridge too far

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_03]: everyone knows you get one of those big bags you put it in there to call it a day everyone knows the bike is just what stays beside the tree that you'll see when they come out on the seat and that's it that's it wasn't there a homework movie in the

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_03]: last couple years where there was like a competition of wrapping awkwardly shaped gifts and yes after wrap a bike yeah I think so I feel like that sounds sounds there's a movie when Amelia Uler was wrapping 60 some gifts an hour and I was like are you

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: crazy but I bet she wasn't wrapping a bag tissue paper yeah yeah bikes are bikes are back situations or nothing at all and I think we'd all agree Dano most of the heavy hitters taken here the naughty or nice system the camera angles

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_03]: that that that all doesn't track even for an ardman Santa movie but the way that they usher in this plot is we forgot a gift and Steve doesn't want to go because he's mad he's not Santa Santa don't want to go because he

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't really care anymore that was that's enough that is enough of a plot for us but they throw in they have this massive thing instead of the slay called the S one it has flown 7 million miles 7 million miles and Steve says we can't risk flying

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: it anymore so basically what they're saying is is 7 million miles no problem it needs to go 5500 miles we can't do it can't pull it off not with this equipment there's no way we could possibly get there

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: the tubes are cooling that's right yeah yeah there's no way we could do it it's got seven it's got 7 million miles on or not a penny more there's no there's no way we can do anymore to night that's crazy

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: but is it that he I mean is he just saying that because really he just feels like there's an acceptable margin of error he there's a brief moment I think Steve's the most interesting character in this thing because there's a brief moment where he would be drawn to Steve

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a brief moment where he's like in his head you mean at least on screen it looks like he's like oh no we have to deliver this gift and then he goes through all these things in his head

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like I don't want to send the ship back out I don't want to do it it's one gift but I'm pretty much perfect one out of you know if I got every gift delivered but one out of a billion that's mathematically perfect so I'm good to go

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_03]: really he's just a climate activist like the global warming exactly you gotta it's a cost analysis and it's not worth the damage is statistically insignificant I also think that this the one thing this movie doesn't do that I wanted it to do was show me why the tech isn't great

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_03]: so like I know that we need a personal touch I know that we need a Santa to deliver a gift and the magic of Christmas is watching people open a gift I know that Steve doesn't have that but at every turn in this movie the tech is better than what they're doing

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: in every like the the old reindeer's are bad the map they use bad the Santa's that the sleigh it's all bad like I would have loved to see do you see what the S1 doesn't have the fact that this sleigh knows where to go or something some sort of Christmas magic element to tell me why we need some of the old with some of the new

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: and this movie doesn't do it and it's like basically Steve was right but didn't have a soul and if Steve had a soul then this movie is just credits and I that bothers me in this movie

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02]: well I look I think that if the if the tech were being declared bad they would ditch it entirely and they'd go back to the old reindeer and sleigh system I think the fact that they're incorporating it what the movie is saying is all of these bells and whistles are great but they only matter

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: if you believe people matter yeah if you believe that every single child matters and if you look at one child not getting a gift as statistically insignificant or within the margin of error or not a big deal compared to the billions of

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: ones you delivered correctly that's where the problem is it's not the problem the problem isn't with the tech Arthur's going to use that tech as Santa but he is bringing the reindeer in as a nod to history and

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just to thank you not that those reindeer unnecessary but it's just like hey we remember you well but if they weren't doing so they wouldn't need 5000 like I think they they they were green

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: there they're green they were green they were green but you don't know how much methane that those rain I was going to say again I don't know green we're getting they may have gone brown

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you couldn't not but they fly but they fly by they fly by magic they fly by magic and that's a yeah one knows it's the whole ball yeah that's two Corinthians

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: let's get to what the hallmark that's where we wonder what could have been maybe clarity any questions that we still have long do you wondering any questions

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I do wonder if okay there's a whole segment where they get out of Tanzania by sprinkling magic dust on a couple of poor reindeer to the get left behind and unfortunately it also gets on the lions and the zebras

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and the elephants and whatnot and I'm just wondering like if anybody can eat in midair yeah yeah floating lions and tigers and bears on the oh my there and how did those landings go you know I think I think that's a probably

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: best we we fly away from that segment never to return we this is going to sound terrible but him saying left behind for some reason just

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: unlocked a memory where we would go out to eat we're all working and we would panda would always need to go to the bathroom before we leave and we would sometimes if we decided to like act like we were going to leave somebody we would say you've been Kirk Cameron's

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_03]: that's what we would say I know why left behind yeah yeah left behind and what we would do is is he go to the bathroom and we would all run to the car get in the car and we would drive to somewhere in the parking lot where we could see him but he couldn't see us

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and he would walk out and he would always look around and we would wait and then we would text him Kirk Cameron

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I like to think of panda as the Arthur Christmas yeah bramble jab yeah especially since he's lost his Christmas that's true yeah yeah

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: so obviously the North Pole and Santa as we notice obviously early on this is not a new thing has been going on for a long time a mini mini Santas

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: North Pole super British very what is has that evolved at all was that you know when you would think eventually maybe it would slowly did he get all the elves from the UK or did they pick up on on Santa's accent

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just it is very British and what's up with that yes I think I think I wanted to point out which I think is part of why this movie didn't do well in the US first of all they released it like right like in the same week that I think

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Tintin and Hugo all of these kids we kid aimed ambitious scores and Spielberg yeah so it got lost in that shuffle but then also the title Arthur Christmas is a joke in the UK that it isn't here or in most places because

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: a they refer to Santa Claus as Father Christmas and secondly they pronounce Arthur as author so author Christmas is like a pun yeah right yeah I didn't know that till just this moment I knew the father Christmas thing but that makes sense

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah so so yeah I think the British we just have to kind of go with that just go with it just go with it you know once you're once British always British that's the moral of the story

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean a lot of the world would beg to differ but that's fine history jokes what did you think of Hugo by the way Alonzo

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: didn't love it but I haven't seen this since it came out I did see that one in 3d and it's magical oh my goodness I love I saw it in 3d and the 3d is amazing it's everything you would think of a Viscorsese 3d

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: do you see this movie in 3d author Christmas I did yeah and it was terrific but I don't share Dan's like adoration of 3d so I've never heard you talk about 3d ever

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I mean like really apart from the first avatar there aren't a ton of 3d movies are like oh ah 3d you know Pacific Rim

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_02]: no no they screened Pacific Rim for us and I saw it on the Warner lot so presumably the projections knew what they were doing and I found it so dark and murky that I couldn't get the 3d kind of pop at all

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah there weren't a lot of 3d movies that I was super pumped about although I mean like the animated films obviously are always fun and how to train your dragons maybe the best 3d I've ever seen a side of the avatar

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah flying is always effective you know for these movies but you know but the oh actually you know what the Disney movie meets a Robinson since 3d was gorgeous

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but the 3d and Arthur Christmas didn't blow me away to the extent that when I watched it flat every subsequent time that I miss it

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I would never thought about it watching the movie you obviously did yeah not until this viewing and then when I couldn't unsee it I was like this would have been cool

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: what you were talking about while you're watching you talked about how this movie hurt your eyes and how it's yeah and then you that's why that's what sent you down the rabbit hole

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_03]: movies especially animated movies if they're early on when they were really made after avatar when they decided we're just going to go gung-ho with 3d and everything was in 3d

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot of those retrofit movies are a lot of the movies that they made for 3d not retrofit animated movies if you're not watching them in 3d it feels like a lot is being thrown towards the screen

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: towards the window that you're like why is this happening at least I feel that way and that that is maybe that maybe is why it may at least make sense now

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_03]: but I like this movie also gets rave reviews for when 3d TVs were a thing like we were talking about that and how like that there was a moment for 3d TVs and this is one of these movies that the

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_03]: blue ray the 3d blue ray of Arthur Christmas on a 3d TV apparently is like the go to so there you have maybe because it's a Sony movie and they really it for the Sony TVs or something

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: that's right I don't know yeah my what the hallmark is pretty straightforward it's what how did Ardman decide on this I like I just Ardman is known not exclusively but really known for stop motion

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: claymation like that that's what they're known for and that is where they like the show on the sheet movies the the pirates the Wallace and grommet movies like these are like chicken run like these movies all like our next level in animation

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and that you can see the amount of detail and craft in there I'm not saying that this movie doesn't have detailing craft that's what I'm saying this is like over a hundred million dollar budget

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: and it is going with a very very different and distinct style of animation and I just want to know the the impetus behind it I want to know if they were like I bet we can make a movie like Pixar I don't know like I'm just very curious I don't know if you may know Alonzo but I like that's my big big question

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I don't and in fact like I know I didn't I still haven't seen the chicken run sequel but we know somebody who works at Netflix actually came home one day with like a couple of the models so as far as I know they are still doing

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_03]: they are mostly into stop motion I mean flushed away was also CG right yeah it was a weird they tried to make it look like stop motion but it was CG and I it's it's kind of that movie is not terrible but it's kind of weird it's

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: a weird vibe to it yeah I don't know I don't know if they were trying to get into the Pixar marketplace or what the idea was but I mean I still love this movie and I don't have a visual issue with it so if they wanted to go down

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I also route again I would not have a problem with that we're gonna do something crazy next Monday what are we going to do we're gonna take the day off take the day we haven't we haven't taken a day off since

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_01]: there's been a lot of holidays we've not taken a single Monday I went back and confirmed we haven't taken a day off since January wow there's been lots of holidays you know we've plowed right through July 4th

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and also thanks yeah Labor Day though there's nothing this is our hands are tied this is the one tight it also works out with do we put the paperwork in on time for a day

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_01]: off yeah that's right but also worked out scheduling wise because of travel on a long as in and it was like why why squeeze in let's just do a crazy thing where we take a

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: whole day off yeah so we're gonna take the day off but then we'll be back in two weeks and I should have looked it up I don't remember what the movie is off the top of my head

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but I will tell you and 16 seconds go 1514 is it the man who invented the man who invented Christmas 3 seconds the mail I'm excited about this one saw it in the theater did you I did cool dude

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah are you talking about Jesus Christ yeah okay just making sure yes because if it's anybody else have I got a belief to show you

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