DTH Classic: Noelle

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[00:00:02] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast. Hi, I'm Bram and I love Disney Plus Christmas movies. Hey, I'm Panda and I like Disney Plus Christmas movies. I'm Dan and I despise Disney Plus Christmas movies. You're a monster. And this is a Patreon episode for the Deck The Hallmark Podcast. Only being in this Christmas.

[00:00:35] Guys, this is on location live. We are in the parking lot of Fiorella's Jack Stack Barbecue, a landmark in Kansas City. Are we starving? Yes. Could we check into our hotel? No. Is it time to eat yet? It's not. Is it noon in our minds? Yes. Have we been up since 4.45? Yes. 4.30. Are we going to record a Patreon episode? Yes. Yes, we are. I have one can of Diet Coke in my system, so this is going to go well, guys.

[00:01:04] We're devoted to our craft. We're devoted to our craft. We're devoted to our craft. Don't say anything else. Don't know who you are. But I've been seeing you on the message boards questioning our craft. They wouldn't question the craft. They'd question if we were devoted to it or not. We're devoted to our craft. And are we? We are devoted to our craft. I'm so hungry.

[00:01:35] Guys, we all watch Noelle spelled N-O-E-L-L-E because it's a person. It's not a Noelle. What's Noelle mean? It means like Christ is born. The first Christ. What's Noelle mean, doctor? I don't know. It's something to do with God. Yeah, it has to be. But it's like the first... It's the first... Peace on earth, maybe? I don't know. It's something like that. Look it up. I'm interested in it now. My guess would be it's the first sign. It's the first... It means Christmas. The first Christmas. Oh, that makes sense. It means Christmas.

[00:02:04] Yeah, so her name literally means Christmas. It just smells... So she's Christmas Kringle. So we watched Noelle. We're going to treat it as if it was a Hallmark movie. Yeah. We'll do a synopsis. We'll do everything. We still have to do any of the bits at the beginning, which is great. None of the bits. You had a great one on Chicharron's and Pat Mahone's. And we're not going to do it. I was really proud of it. And I was thinking of busting it out for the live show tonight. Chicharron's playing a cajon. Playing a cajon. That's a great bit. Just email us if you want more of that. I think we should do it. For those of you...

[00:02:31] If you guys are coming to the shows, we might do it at all of them and just see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just see if it plays. What's Milwaukee... Aaron Rodgers going to the Dodgers? Not Cannon Fodgers. No, I do. The Greek freak eating meat on his feet. Looking sleek. Looking sleek. So all of that's coming. It's your way, whether you want it or not. The falcons suck. Brett Favre.

[00:03:01] Larva. Guys, are you ready to dive into Noel? Boy, am I. To Nolly. Noel originally aired... I don't know when it actually came on Disney+. Whenever Disney Plus first came out. A couple weeks ago. Whenever Disney Plus launched. And it's on Disney Plus. And it went a little something like this. Noelle is a little girl at the beginning of this movie. She's obsessed with Christmas and she's obsessed with Santa.

[00:03:29] One Christmas Eve, she catches Santa. Turns out she's actually Santa's daughter. What? Santa brings presents, even for his own kid. And I think that's very nice of him. Santa gives his son Nick some Santa clothes for Christmas. He's very excited. He's going to be the next Santa. Noelle's a little bit jealous, but she's also supportive because that's just who she is. Hey, great job, Nick. Fast forward.

[00:03:55] Daddy Santa passed away and it's time for Nick Santa to become real Santa. But he's not really good at all of it. He doesn't really get all the things that it takes to be Santa. So, Noel is really good at training him, supporting him, saying, hey, you can do this. And she knows a lot about what it takes to be Santa. But he's like stressed out, anxious. So, Noel encourages him to take a little vacation.

[00:04:23] He doesn't tell anybody that he's going to leave. And so, the North Pole freaks out. It's been like over a week. No one knows where he is. The Elder Elves, which apparently are on like some sort of board. It's a board of sorts. Yeah. They decide to induct Cousin Gabe to be Santa because he's the next male Kringle in line. The entire North Pole turns against Noel. They blame her for ruining Christmas.

[00:04:50] And she decides to take matters into her own hands and go and find her brother. She figures out that he must be in Phoenix based off of some things that she found in some magazines. So, she takes the reindeers and they go and they fly to Phoenix. We get a scene like you do in kind of like an elf where Buddy's experienced New York for the first time. Noel is experiencing Phoenix for the first time. It's a one-to-one New York to Phoenix. You get it.

[00:05:17] She finds a private investigator named Jake to help her find her brother. And she begins to discover that one, she knows other languages like sign language. And two, there is a world out there that gifts can't exactly fix. Jake finds Nick. He's teaching a Christmas-themed yoga class. He tells her that he's really liking his life in Phoenix. He doesn't want to go back to the North Pole.

[00:05:44] And all of a sudden, her pet reindeer snow cone shows up out of nowhere with a letter from her mom saying that Cousin Gabe is ruining Christmas. He thinks that there's only 2,000 nice kids and is going to use Amazon Prime to deliver gifts. Nick decides to give being Santa one last little shot. And he's going to be a mall Santa and see if he gets any of the Santa spirit in him. But it doesn't work.

[00:06:10] She ends up opening up to Jake about who she is. She tells him the truth. He freaks out. She doesn't take that well. She gets arrested for kicking a cop. They put her in a psych ward for saying that she's an elf. And Aunt Polly convinces Jake that Noel was telling the truth. And so he decides to break her out of the hospital. And he sees the sleigh fly. And that's when he really believes that she is who she says that he is.

[00:06:39] So Santa Nick and Noel go back to the North Pole, announce that he thinks that Noel should be Santa. She gives a speech about the power of Christmas. I cry. We all cry. And she officially becomes Santa, the first female Santa. Woohoo! She goes down and gives it her all. And she slowly becomes more comfortable after a little girl calls her Santa. And she's like, you know what? I am Santa. She crushes it. She crushes Christmas Eve.

[00:07:08] Everyone loves her as Santa. And that, my friends, was Noel. Noel! That's exactly right. We did it. Before we get going, I'm a little bit off-put by the fact that this restaurant isn't open yet. And I just watched no less than 10 undercover agents or police officers that are in street clothes but wearing their badges around their neck walk in.

[00:07:39] And I don't know what's going on in there. And I figured I'd let you guys know that. Well, do you want to, while I'm sharing my hot take, do you want to run in and get to the scope? I can't wait to hear your hot take. Call in. Call in. Because I think you hated it. Let's go. No! You thought I hated it? It was a joke. I know you loved this movie. Yeah, I freaking love this movie. Are you kidding me? I watched it and I was like, Bran had all the feels. No, man. This movie's awesome. I think it's going to be in my regular rotation at Christmas time. You know, Lord willing, Disney Plus stays around for a while.

[00:08:05] It was my first Disney Plus experience and so that was fun. But yeah, I really liked it. I really enjoyed Anna Kendrick. Anna Kendrick. I could have used a bit and by a bit I mean a lot more Bill Hader because I think he's just the funniest dude in the world. But overall, loved it. It did give me like elf feels. It's a less funny and not as good elf. Mm-hmm. But it did have elements of it that worked enough for me to love it.

[00:08:36] It's in the love category, but it's not an elf, but it's in that kind of vein. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in the vein of elf. Definitely in the vein of elf. Yeah, and so really that just works for me. And so it's a love for Bran and it's a Merry Christmas to you boys. Since we're going in reverse order, I can go ahead and shoot you a hot takeover. It gets a, I guess a mediocre thumbs up for me. Okay, okay, okay. It has all the makings of like a Christmas classic that you would watch in the theater

[00:09:04] and then you go home and you see every year you break it out and it's got enough fun Christmas spirit to it. I think surprisingly what I really liked was I think Anna Kendrick is in full on charmer mode and there's no sarcastic. She plays it straight up. She doesn't do any sarcastic and I'm not usually a big fan of hers and I thought she was really good. It is like Elf and the Santa Claus, but not as good as either one of those movies. Right, yep. I love Bill Hader. Like, love Bill Hader.

[00:09:34] Barry is really my favorite show of the year. Succession may be coming up close on that though now that I'm watching that. Barry is great. Bill Hader is great. I think he's kind of coasting. He's totally coasting. The scene in the yoga studio is the one scene where I really thought he was Bill Hader. The rest of the movie, he's just there for a paycheck. Exactly. Billy Eichner wasn't annoying to me, so that was nice. Billy Eichner is never annoying to me. Here are my issues. I never liked Billy Eichner. I used to think it was really annoying. In this performance, he's funny. Yeah. Now you've seen Billy on the street? Yeah.

[00:10:04] You don't love it? It's got about a two minute window for me. Oh no. Two minute window. I could watch him all day long. But the other thing is, I think for me, it's too long. Like I felt like it was too long. Yep. And I felt like it goes to the well too often on really dumb, like, everything doesn't have to be Christmas puns. It was like a lot of it felt like bad elf to me. Like that was the stuff I didn't like. Like, I'm all earmuffs instead of I'm all ears. Like, that's barely even a Christmas pun. Like, I don't know why you're doing that. And then when she's doing the bit with the sunblock, like all I could think in my head

[00:10:33] was Will Ferrell in the mall, spraying the perfume in his mouth, doing it better. Yeah. And that is, we need to stay away from that because there's a lot about this movie that works and it's a really good girl power movie and there's a lot of other things that I like about it. Um, so it's like 60% what I want. Yeah. It's so tricky though. When you, when you make a elf going to the city for the first time, like you can only change up so many things. And so it's not like they were going to do anything new that Elf didn't do, but she didn't

[00:11:02] do it as good as Will. She just didn't do it. And they made it too similar because basically they sent her to find her brother and he's going to find his dad. And like you're, you're running the risk of, of doing what we're doing right now, which is, Hey, this Anna Kendrick is charming and funny and better at Will Ferrell at a lot of things. Just physical comedy right now. Isn't one of them in my opinion, zany physical comedy. So that kind of hurt its prop. Although yogurt pants works for me. I laughed hard at yogurt pants. Yogurt.

[00:11:31] But she has moments. I thought she was really charming. Yeah. So that's my take. It's time for the hot take. It's the time of the show. We talk about how we felt about this movie and no uncertain terms. We always start with Panda Panda. What did you think about this movie? Let me tell you, I want to start off and give you my hot take real quick. Uh, I, how hot is it? It's scalding, uh, borderline, uh, lukewarm. Uh, this movie is, this movie solid. Uh, I like it. Uh, it's a strong like for me. So I don't know.

[00:12:01] There's a couple of things that make me think that it will be in my rotation next year. I don't know if this movie will be in my rotation several years from now. I don't know if it's like classic status, uh, but it is really fun. Anna Kendrick's great. I love the idea of a female Santa Claus. Uh, they have the North pole is the best North pole we've seen in a movie since, uh, the Santa Claus. Uh, they do a really good job of it. It was a good North pole.

[00:12:29] They really flesh out a lot of really fun mythology behind the Santa character in a lot of ways. Uh, there's some really great one liners in this movie that made me, uh, laugh. Uh, Bill Hader obviously needs to be in there more, but Anna Kendrick did really a remarkable job of carrying this movie. And it's my favorite thing I've ever seen her in Kendrick. Yeah. Yeah. Same here. Absolutely. And I think you're right.

[00:12:56] It's because she ditches the sarcasm and just plays it as innocent, naive, which she crushes. She just was as genuine as you could be. And I did not expect that. I like the accountant, the accountant. Who is that? It's with, uh, what's it? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's a great movie. I never, but her role is so understated in that. Anybody can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the, my favorite thing I've seen her, like her, my favorite performance of her. She starred in a poster. I see her on the front with Bill Hader and I'm like, she's going to be your classic, you

[00:13:26] know, quick witted, smarmy, sarcastic, but lovable self. And instead she's just genuinely lovable. And I thought that was great. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's time for all the feels part of the show. We talk about what in this movie gave us feels a couple of things for me. Uh, one, uh, it's like, you know, I don't know. And it goes back to the North pole, but she does this. She, we see that, um, her shoes all are also ice skates. Yeah. You can tap on that, which is very cool.

[00:13:53] And the North pole, you travel everywhere by ice skating and that's just dope. And I think that would be what the North pole would be like. Um, and then the last, uh, the second is, uh, the sign language scene when she discovers that she can, I mean, and it's a nice like little, uh, nod to, I think that's like a miracle on 34th street thing where it's saying like anytime you can sign, like sign and surprise a girl who, who, uh, it speaks via sign language and it's like, Oh my goodness. You do this too. Yeah. Uh, man, that's so good.

[00:14:23] Um, and I, it's one of those things where I, I always take for granted, uh, just talking and being able to communicate with people and being, seeing somebody who, uh, just the look on their face when they see somebody who can talk to them, uh, is a really cool. That seems better than anything we see in homework. It's great. It's just so good. Yeah. Uh, I think again, one of the scenes that is meant to play for the fields is when she, uh, they call her Santa for the first time and the suit fits that works for me.

[00:14:52] Like that is a really, that's a great message of you have to grow into your role. You have to believe, uh, that this is your role. I love that. And then a scene that's kind of understated, but I found it hilarious, uh, was when Helen who's, uh, the manager of the entire like Plaza or whatever their shopping center that they're at. And, uh, and she's, she is flirted with by the pet co guy and Anna Kendrick looks at her and she goes, I don't know if this is how they say it. I don't know.

[00:15:21] I'm not from around here, but it's, Ooh, that's a funny scene. And she plays it. So, uh, and that was the scene for me that made me say, all right, Anna Kendrick's doing a really great job. Yeah. I love that scene. But it, what's interesting is, is that scene makes some of her other stuff worse because they're never consistent. No, I'll get to that. That's what my weight was with how much she knows in the real world. And it is, it's, it's for me, it's less of a weight. What, but it is a weight.

[00:15:49] What, and more of just a, this movie could have been better if they were consistent with the character because that seems hilarious. But then she goes and she's literally in a freezer and says yogurt pants. And I like, yeah, I know it. She wears yogurt pants. I just, my weight. What has to do with toys and giving stuff to people all the time. She knows what an iPad is. What a, what a set of noise canceling headphones is. Don't we yoga pants are? Yeah. Like I, I know we're at that. That's the weight. What section, but like it's inconsistent. Right. But that scene is great. Yes. Um, my way, what my all the fields was either the signing scene, but I have one more and

[00:16:18] I got legitimate chills and I don't know why. Uh, Shirley MacLaine, who has been an actress for years and years and years. I mean, she's a legend in the business when Noel comes back and gets in the sleigh and she taught, she sits in the sleigh with her and she's like, Hey, you know, you can't come with me. And basically is it Paula? Is that her name? Polly. Polly elf Polly. She gives her this little mini speech. And I watched this movie at five 30 in the morning on a plane to six in the morning on a plane today.

[00:16:45] Um, but she gives her the speech and at one point in the speech, like she basically says ever since I held you for the first time, like I knew you were meant for this. Like this is who you are. And when she says that it's like almost like a, like a sports movie, like they're at halftime or they're like, coach, I can't do it. And it was great. She nailed it. And I loved that scene. I thought it was a really solid scene. And I thought her speech was really good when she was trying to convince everybody that she was, she can do it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was good.

[00:17:11] Uh, it's time for a wait. What a sponsor show. We talk about one this week. We have a, uh, don't we have a sponsor? Yes, we do have a sponsor. Listen, we just want to eat. There's nothing we can do. There's nothing we can do. That's right. I don't know what you have. You're just don't be crabby. Is it a, is it the billiards? It is the billiards. It's billiards lollipops. Billiards lollipops. Yes.

[00:17:39] So, uh, from what I've gathered and I could be wrong. I, I didn't do the deep dive. I believe it is a man named Charles billiards. Yeah. And he's created some lollipops. Yeah. Yeah. He did. What's unique about billiards lollipops? So the lollipop is a pool stick. There's actually no head on the lollipop. It's more of a, just a stick. Okay. Yeah. Uh, we got a coupon. Vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, vote.

[00:18:08] I would just don't get it. I, you know, now that you've described it, I, I would advise. It's a bad idea. He tried to play off his name and I told him it was a bad idea. He sank a lot of money into the product and into us to advertise for it. And I'm like, what are you doing, man? Like we're, we're, we're going to be honest. Have the top of the lollipop be like, it looked like a pool ball. Like a pool ball. That's what I do. That makes sense. He's like, no, no, that'd make any sense. The ball never sticks to the pool cue. Right. He's very like, I said, well, make some billiards like gumdrops or something. And he's like, no, no, no.

[00:18:37] Lollipop's the way of the future. Lollipop's the way of the future. That's right. Is there anything about these lollipop that is special? Like on the inside or? I think, I think they've got a gooey center. A gooey center. Yeah. Kind of like actual pool sticks. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yes. Uh, that's a billiards, billiards. Dot org. Lolli. That's right. Promo code vote, vote, vote. Uh, it's time for the way. Uh, Panda, you got any way what's I got a few. Okay.

[00:19:05] Uh, first of all, it's Anna Kendrick's character in general. Uh, I don't know what they are trying to do with her in general because they make it, they keep going back to this idea that she's spoiled somehow. And at no point do I really feel that she's spoiled or entitled, but they, they really try to ham that up. It doesn't make sense. They want her to have, they want to have it both ways. Right. They want you to see that she's all about the gifts to start, but she's also very caring and thoughtful. All right. So it doesn't make much sense at all. I agree. It doesn't make any sense.

[00:19:35] Uh, let's see. Uh, probably the biggest one for me is the product placement, which is next level. It is. Yeah. Uh, they tried to pay for this whole movie with product place. Yeah. I counted no less than 30 different products placements. Uh, if you mean just signs in the background and yeah, I got signs in the background.

[00:19:53] Uh, they, they go so far as, and this is hilarious with the taco bell, uh, scene where she kicks the police officer. If you go back and look at one time, uh, there in the background, there's no, there's no building in the background.

[00:20:05] Uh, it's just plain and then it cuts back and it's taco bell. Then it cuts back like it. That's next level product placement. Uh, I mean the Petco Amazon prime, super cuts guys. You have Mac Nike Converse, Ralph Lauren, uh, my little pony kid chef sunblock. Uh, I mean Cinnabon best buy sprinkles, bake shop, super cuts. I've never heard of sprinkles. What is a sprinkles? Is that a real thing? That is a real place.

[00:20:32] I've never been. It's actually only located in Georgia. Believe it or not, the place where they filmed was, I think Georgia. So that probably could have been in the background by accident. Uh, I don't know. There's a few that were only located in Georgia at that particular one, but it's a real place. Yeah. Sprinkles. There you have it. Sprinkles. Yes, I'll magazine. Martha Stewart. Yeah. They said, but they say, and they say, uh, Martha Stewart's living. Yeah. Yeah. She sure is. I think my only one that really stuck out to me was at the very end. She has a, uh, the twinkle that they throw on her eye.

[00:21:02] At the end is jaw. It's a jarring twinkle. Did you guys see this twinkle? It's a heck of a twinkle. At the very end of the movie, they throw a twinkle on her eye and it's like, twinkle! Yeah, it's big time. Uh, and so I guess it's good for her, but it was so, it was so obnoxious. I was like, did they want it to be that obnoxious? I was just kind of, uh, it was a jarring twinkle, uh, which also saw them live the other day. It was so good, dude. Uh, Dan?

[00:21:25] Uh, yeah, I've got a few. Um, I'm very concerned from an efficiency standpoint about Santa's process to enter a chimney. Do you mean to tell me on every house he has to stop, tap three times and sing, we wish you a Merry Christmas? Listen. For every house. Science is science.

[00:21:46] But that, how could he, like, there's nothing you can do. If that's what you have to do, that's what you have to do. I just think that's crazy town. Like we, uh, we can't make that a little bit more streamlined. Like we can't just go in the chimney. Yeah, but it's a lot like old magic that's been written to the fabric of the universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's nothing you can do to tap it up to town. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And that's been written since We Wish You a Merry Christmas has been written. Right, which was? Which was written in the fabric of the universe. Before the sands of time. That's right. Yeah. Um, I, I forgot to mention this in my hot take. It's, I just, I don't know.

[00:22:16] I thought of it. It's not, the only thing I wrote down was Wait What's. It's not my Wait What's. Um, I hated Snow Cone the Reindeer. Wow. I hated Snow Cone the Reindeer. Wow. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan. Wow. It's a bad bit. Snow Cone is the Jar Jar Binks of this movie. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I agree with you. Almost everything with Snow Cone in it is bad. And if they had made it more believable, I guess I could have felt sorry for the thing. But it's like Dobby the Elf in Harry Potter. Like in the books, you love him. In the movies, it's just this annoying, whiny guy. Like, I just, Snow Cone didn't do anything for me. There's no way weather.

[00:22:46] It's fine. But, I do want to know why, and this is, I know that every movie creates their own Santa's lore. But for some reason, I've never heard of this because in almost every other movie, Santa flies with elves that help him. It's, she says, you, Santa has to fly solo on Christmas Eve. Yeah. What, what's that about? Listen, what? Like, has to, that seems very much, we got to write something in for this movie so Shirley MacLaine can't come with her. Like, it didn't make any sense to me.

[00:23:14] Yeah. Maybe it's, maybe it's, I think it's the first time. After that. That, okay. You think it's the first time? I think it's the first time. She said, you know Santa's got to fly solo on Christmas Eve. On the first time. On the first time. Yeah. That was kind of post. Yeah. How hard is it to find a phone in Phoenix, Arizona? It's tricky. I don't, for the life of me, so his phone was out of batteries? Yeah. But he was in his house, right? So there's nowhere, it's an apartment complex. Mm-hmm. There's nowhere that he can, like, that, that was the most ridiculous part of this movie to me.

[00:23:44] Like, he's freaking out. I think there is, he just doesn't, he doesn't want to ask. It's more likely that he doesn't know the number he's supposed to call than it is he can't get a little. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Like, that didn't make any sense to me at all. Um, and then, uh, lastly, and this is, it's going to sound, let me back up. Billy Eichner, uh, Gabe. Gabe. When he is, um. Santa Gabe. When he is Santa Gabe, his hair turns gray. Uh-huh.

[00:24:12] Is he wearing a wig to try to pretend? Yes. What's that about? That's funny. He was hoping, he was trying to get people's respect. Because I either had, my question was either, and I was watching on the phone, either, if your hair turns gray when you're Santa, that should apply across the board, and it would have been fun to see. I thought it would have been cool to see Anna Kendrick with, like, some silver hair at the end of the movie. I thought that would have been cool. No, I think it was. But if he's wearing a wig. It was clearly a wig. He's as funny to me. It was clearly a wig. His character is one that doesn't care about all of that stuff. But I think he was trying to have some sort of order.

[00:24:41] So he was like, if I can kind of look like Santa, then people might follow. I think that's a funny event. I thought almost everything Billy Eichner did in this movie was funny. Oh, he's a riot. Okay, that's all I got. Billy on the street! It's time for What the Hallmark is. The part of the show. We wonder what it could have been. What maybe happened that would give some clarity. The questions that we still have. Panders? I have a weird theory. Okay. I love weird theories. This is a strange one. I think, and hear me out, that Garland, the actual... That's Garland for you.

[00:25:11] The city of Garland? Garland. No, hear me out. Garland itself is an actual deity that is worshipped in the North Pole. The plant itself. Like a weird form of forest religion. I thought you were bringing in the city from the whole room. No, I'm not. No, no, no, no. They thank Garland. They go, oh my, Garland. They go, oh, thank Garland. And I get what they're trying to do, but I think it's legitimate. Wow. They worship Garland there. I can buy it. Also, Santa we trust. There's an odd religion going on.

[00:25:40] They say the coins all have, and Santa we trust, so there's a little bit of a weird Santa Garland druid deity. I don't know. What's going on there? I like it. I'm intrigued by the religion of the North Pole. Yeah, I like it. No, I'm on board. I just want to know more. I want to know about the Christmas council. The guy who always eats the candy cane mallet, which, weirdly enough, I thought was terrible until the end when it didn't work and he licked it. And I was like, all right, bro, you earned it.

[00:26:09] I want to know how you get on that council. I want to know if it's you have to be born from a special family. I want to know if it's you're just the oldest, because it seems like elves live a long time. I have a lot of questions about that. I'd love to know more about that. For me, Aunt Polly seems to not age from the beginning of the movie to where the movie takes place. She looks exactly the same. And so I, and that just, not just her, but also elves in general. Yeah. Is it a slow age? Because Anna Kendrick, how much time went from her childhood to where she is now?

[00:26:39] Do they age up to a certain point and then they stay the same for a long time? All of that. I think it would help us if we just knew how old everybody was in the movie. Yes. How old is Gabe compared to Noel? Yes. Compared to Nick? But you know what I mean, though? Yeah. Does she age like a normal person up until 21? And then you look 21 until you're 45. And then, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can buy that. For sure. I like it. And then I don't know if they said it, and I just want to know, how did Santa die? Oh, yeah.

[00:27:08] They didn't say it. You're right. Because Mrs. Claus still seems like she's doing good health. Yeah. Julie Haggerty, I believe is her name. She's in What About Bob? That's what I know her from. But also the airplane movies. So just interested. How did he die? Maybe I just heard it and didn't hear it. Maybe once you're Santa, at a certain age, you just vapor. Oh, yeah. Could be. You know. Could be. The vapor Santa. Even if you hate to see that. Classic vapor Santa. You feel like they would have ... Hey, I got a question. Sure, bud. Are we devoted to our craft? Yes.

[00:27:37] Not enough to remember the song about being devoted to the craft. Are we devoted enough to our craft to know that we're hungry? Yes. We're very hungry. And guys, thank you so much for telling us to do Noel. We're also going to do Night Before Christmas. That's a medieval time travel Christmas movie, so shoot me in the face. So it's happening. I'm excited. And also, people have been asking ... I think we said it kind of jokingly, but now people are wondering where it is, and it's the Patreon recap ... Of the Christmas Con. Of Christmas Con. I didn't know that we were actually really doing it.

[00:28:05] Thumbs up for brand, middle ground for panda, thumbs down for Dan. Yeah, we said we'd give them inside scoop. There's not a lot of scoop, guys. We sold a lot of shirts. We met a lot of people. I said we'd give them one. Okay. We got all the time. We'll give the people what they want. We'll give the people what they want. They're clamoring. But just know it's going to be a disappointment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when we record it December 15th. Man, what was Con? Yeah. Who was Con? Oh. Guys, thank you so much. Hope to see you soon, and may we be the first to wish you a ... Merry Christmas.

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