Ebony's Christmas Carol

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast Hi, I'm Brian and I love Christmas Carol adaptations I'm Dan and I despise Christmas Carol adaptations I'm Alonzo and what is wine anyway? And this is Deck The Hallmark Deck The Hallmark, it's his podcast We then and friends host his podcast

[00:00:32] We hope you like this jolly podcast Well, hello everybody Welcome back Oh boy Welcome back By popular demand Yes, now for those that did not join us last week for What was that? Stuck on Christmas? Stuck on Christmas That's right We found out that director Johnard Harper

[00:01:01] That's it Also put out a movie in 2025 called Ebony's Christmas Carol And we said Why the heck not? We just can't get enough That's right We just can't get enough Let's just roll right on into it And so we have We're talking about Ebony's Christmas Carol today But first, Alonzo, hello How are you? I'm good You know, coming up on mine and Scotty's birthday That's true You got big birthday plans?

[00:01:31] Nothing major It's, you know, I'm at that age where if it's not a five or a zero It's just sort of like me, you know Yeah Now I understand you did see Dan last weekend in person Yes Disappointing? Yeah, super disappointing for him, I'm sure Always a delight Always a thrill Especially when he is accompanied by his better half That's right That's the real win How many people have gone out to eat with my wife and myself? Not many True Yeah

[00:02:02] But yeah, no, look We discovered a restaurant in our neighborhood that we'd never been to So that was a big plus And luckily all of my sightseeing tips for Dan Vis-a-vis food and shopping paid off So, you know He, Alonzo told me about a very specific place I needed to go And a food I needed to try And he was To say he was two for two was the understatement of the century They were both Like a thousand of ten They were both

[00:02:31] Both things that he recommended The cinnamon roll at the Donut Man in Grand Central Market Is the best Maybe my favorite pastry of all time Wow It's a cinnamon roll that tastes like cinnamon And you can't take that for granted Because they often don't But it's also served warm Like they're baking them There's like bees flying around the pastries Because it's outside And you're like Oh my Like it was such a It was amazing Absolutely amazing And then Amoeba

[00:02:59] It's a store that sells physical media I bought a bunch of Blu-rays and 4Ks I bought a t-shirt I bought all kinds of stuff I really appreciate what you brought me back They had a recurring thing on YouTube Where like if When, you know Rock stars would go to Amoeba They would On the way out They'd do a video with them called What's in your bag? Yeah So yeah I was curious to know What you picked up at Amoeba We, we I bought Several Blu-rays

[00:03:28] One was a Wallace and Gromit collection That we could not find anywhere Two other ones that are The names you're escaping me right now He didn't get anything And then He just didn't want to disappoint you No He didn't get anything I did And then we And then I bought A shirt that just says Arrest the President Love it Which one? Which shirt? No, which president? Yeah, I'll leave that up to you I wore it to Fly the Concords And you could probably use it For several administrations Yeah I actually wore the shirt

[00:03:57] To the Fly the Concords concert And got so many compliments Like And then I realized something About after the I kid you not Sixth or seventh compliment On the shirt From random strangers That I have to wear this shirt Here in Greenville To see how it goes Oh yes Because it will not be A half dozen compliments I can assure you Yeah But I'm very excited To put it to the test But this weekend At the Greenville Market If you want to come say Hey, I'll be out there With my arrest of the President You're nice But this is something you do

[00:04:27] You get compliments On your black shirts All the time That's right So it wasn't new to you Yeah, yeah Just the solid black Actually this shirt is solid black It's just white lettering It's all it is It's very, very straightforward And that was an impulse buy I had all the Blu-rays And one 4K And then I was walking out And we saw the shirts And you have to go through This security thing And the shirts were right there And I was like I got all this stuff And Sarah was like I'll get back in line And she got the shirt And got back in line And I stood out there And hung out outside On Hollywood Boulevard There you go Nice Yeah Alright, we're talking

[00:04:56] Ebony's Christmas Carol Today Let's get to it, shall we? It originally aired On various streamers Around the world It was Andrew Johnson That's the president I'm really sorry I thought I should tell you Well, I understand There's a reason he was impeached Yeah November 25th, 2025 And it went a little something Like this Meet Ebony Scrooge She wakes up during the holiday season And is not thrilled

[00:05:25] She is out here wearing all black Like Dan does So that you know that they hate Christmas She walks out of her room And what I believe is her assistant Maggie is decorating her house for Christmas Ebony is like Throw it away Christmas is only good for one thing And it is sales We then meet Nate Nate is an aspiring winemaker himself

[00:05:54] Who is hoping to make his own wine Specifically a holiday blend That he has been working on But currently He just works at Ebony's winery And Butch is hoping that he can sell this Get her on board with this wine Ebony gets into her office Cannot believe that they are all trying to decorate for Christmas She's like I've made the rules clear What are those rules? No Christmas music No decorations

[00:06:24] No jingle bells And no Mariah Carey The last one goes all year Does she not like any Mariah Carey No butterfly Always be my baby Nothing She goes to sleep on Christmas Eve Wakes up to her aunt pooch Tells her that she is going to be met by three ghosts Ebony's not having it First The ghost of Christmas past shows up And is like

[00:06:53] Let me take you back to when you were a kid When your parents didn't have enough That's Christmas Yes But they tried their best to make it special Yeah It was not She did not find it special Her parents actually worked really hard To make it special She did not feel it And the kids in the class And the kids in the class Gave her a hard time about it Yeah So that's tough Ghost of Christmas present shows up He's hot That's what you need to know about the ghost of Christmas present He shows up

[00:07:22] And shows her how her employees hate her And how her parents Who are still very much alive Are sad that she never comes around And how she hates Christmas This actually does move her a little bit Then The ghost of Christmas yet to come Shows her a future where she dies And no one cares Not even Nate And that stings

[00:07:51] She makes it back And goes straight to the office To apologize to everyone Gives everyone time off And a bonus And she goes to make up with her parents Then she comes back to the office They throw a Christmas party Where she December 25th after all Where she As Scrooge Is one to do Backs that thing up On Nate For what I can only describe as Such a long time Then she pulls him aside

[00:08:20] Tells him About how much She likes the holiday wine And then they kiss Because we all knew The entire movie They had feelings for each other And that my friends was Ebony's Christmas Carol We did it We did it Let's take a break We'll come back We'll break this movie down Here on Take the Hallmark

[00:08:55] We're talking about Ebony's Christmas Carol Today It's time for us to share Our hot takes Where we share exactly How we felt about this movie We don't hold back And I will start with you Alonzo Alonzo What'd you think? Well this definitely Falls in that category Of is this a love story Or an HR violation Because they Yeah They spring that on us In the literal last 10 minutes Without a hint of any kind of romantic spark Between them up to that point But then This movie's missing so much I still don't know

[00:09:24] What the business is Yeah Is it a vineyard? Is it a wholesaler? Is it a retail shop? It's supposed to be a winery Yeah I'm baffled as to what's actually Happening here Also Like okay I get She hates Christmas We make that very clear And she's all about profit Now You know Why not just have her Cynically exploit Christmas To make money At the holidays Take a note Out of Dan's playbook

[00:09:54] And use Christmas For your own financial gain Yeah Exactly But no Can't even have that She just You make half the money No Christmas ever We can have the giant sign That says wine On the table But we can't have You know Jingle bells Yeah This movie is Pretty catastrophic And the A cavalcade of wait what's And it turns out You really do need a tiny Tim Or else there's not a lot of stakes

[00:10:23] Dude I There's no tiny Tim If I was in your spot And had the last intro For this is the deck The hallmark Mine was tiny Tim I hardly know her That was what mine was The fact that this movie Just like Tiny Tim is No one in this movie Is dying No one needs Any healthcare Like it is No one's dying They stripped it down To the A different story really Like I don't even think Horrible bosses I don't think Dickens could sue Yeah You couldn't Yeah

[00:10:53] There's that This movie is worse than stuck on Christmas Wow Wow Go on So that is impressive There are so many things about this movie That I've never seen before In movie making Which we will get to But it is Wild It's truly

[00:11:23] You know We talked What was the Christmas Carol adaptation We watched The musical Oh yeah Christmas Karma What a ball that was Compared Just a humdinger Real True to the Spirit of the Christmas Carol And this Is not You're right This is Scrooge would Wouldn't even waste his time Nah Suing for Infringement Or Dickens Even for that point

[00:11:53] Because Scrooge isn't real Scrooge would sue He would Scrooge would sue Yes This is a really This is a bad movie I had an absolute blast watching it with you Dale Oh it was a treat I don't know if you enjoyed yourself Alonzo or not Watching it by yourself But we had a good time in the office It was not the same But I'm sure Fair enough Could have shared it Fair enough Dana what did you think about it Yeah I don't know I think that's a bridge It's a bridge too far to say This is worse than Stuck on Christmas I don't know if I can go there with you But make no mistake

[00:12:21] This movie is atrocious But also And I think you did mention it briefly In your synopsis But we need to get this out of the way Because I got a whole page of Wait what's This is legitimately The saddest Scrooge backstory Of all time Ebony becomes Scrooge Because she lived with a mom and dad That did not have a lot of money But did the best they could To make Christmas special for her anyway So I don't know if you know this Most people when they grow up To become adults

[00:12:51] They look back And if they were treated well By their parents They realize that the money Isn't what was important You know Most people that grow up And are super wealthy And don't have a lot of friends They That was because their parents Placed that priority on them When they were young Think about how weird it is That a woman Who is now 40-ish Grew up with a mom and dad Who both prioritized her Did

[00:13:19] Like did whatever they could She doesn't become Scrooge In spite of that She becomes Scrooge Because of that That is a wild Incredibly depressing Sad story As to why This woman becomes Scrooge And that is the The That's the movie That's That's the plot Of what we're doing here And then they take Tiny Tim out And then we have

[00:13:49] Just a comedy of errors Over the next hour or so Of movie making I still thought it moved quicker Than Stuck on Christmas Stuck on I don't know if I'm with you there Okay They're both I mean it's like FF plus Or FF minus However you want to Like they're both terrible But this is barely A Scrooge adaptation And the The origin story is An abomination It's so bad So yeah It's terrible It's time for all It's time for all the feels We were talking about

[00:14:18] What in this movie gives feels Alonzo You mentioned it in the synopsis The ghost of Christmas present Is hot Yeah I'll go with that He was a good looking fella And Not There's That doesn't happen enough In these movies I have one I have an actual one Which is the one moment In this movie That I was like Yeah I've thought about that before Is When Ebony is visited by The Marley Of the movie

[00:14:48] On Pooch That's right And she's like You're gonna be visited By three ghosts Which is a thing That happens In every Christmas carol And Ebony Instead of being blown away By this information Goes Aren't you a ghost too So isn't it four And I was like Every Every single time I watch any Christmas carol When the Marley's show up And they say You're gonna be visited By three ghosts I'm always like Four ghosts Every time You mean three more You mean three more Three more Three not including The ghost in front of me Additional You're acting like

[00:15:18] One is a normal day At the office Right Like You gotta include yourself If you are a ghost Everyone knows You're always You're always Granted by one This one is normal So I appreciate it In a weird sense Them like being The first one I've seen to be like Nope You count too I appreciated that So there's that There you go Alright let's take a break We'll come back We'll get to the wait what And the what The hallmark here on Deck the hallmark

[00:15:40] Welcome back We're talking about Ebony's Christmas Carol Or Ebony Christmas carol Depending On where you look Where you look Yeah Just on Google And whatnot On IGV You'll see both Yeah Just depending Let's get to the wait what So we talk about What in this movie And it's going What I'll start with you Alonzo Oh golly Well from the get go

[00:16:10] We have By the way There's The people who want to do The Jay Harper thesis I think we're seeing A lot of motifs From film to film The consumption of wine People waking up In the morning You know like He definitely Has some Some themes He likes to go back to He has a thing Yes So She wakes up And it's a phone call From her mom And all She picks up the phone And she says I told you Not on Christmas And I thought Oh we're starting On Christmas

[00:16:39] That's a bold move But no no It's the 23rd We find out later Yep What does wake her up though Is the other woman Putting up decorations In the living room And as you point out Who is she Is she an assistant Is she a roommate Is she a partner We don't know anything And she says like Throw it out But those decorations Are there for the rest Of the movie So like That's crazy They gave her a name Maggie Yes Maggie You're Maggie And you're like Oh Maggie's gonna matter

[00:17:08] Maggie's gonna really Be in this a lot Yeah that's gonna Chekhov's Maggie Nope Oh no Okay The whole thing About like Yeah I love profit And I hate Christmas And I'm like Lady you're in retail Christmas equals profit That's how that works Right here You know And she talks about How their brand Is subtle sophistication Again There is a giant sign On the table That just says Wine In big letters And there is Like some sort of

[00:17:38] Rainbow thing Of wines I'm like Nobody wants The green And the purple Like whatever's happening An aged green Would be a really nice one In that setup Is not No one No one No one wants it What Yeah What is Scrooge Cellars I You know Like Do they have their own vineyard Are they a retailer Are they a caterer Because at one point We find out They were supposed to Deliver wine to a hotel And it doesn't show up And that leads me To one of my biggest Wait ones Now Dickens never gives us

[00:18:06] An employee evaluation Of Bob Cratchett But we are led To understand That he is a hard worker And a good worker That's right And that Scrooge Exploits him And underpays him Correct And treats him poorly And doesn't You know Heat up the office And all that stuff This movie Gives you the proposition Of wait What if Scrooge's employees Are also not good At their job And thus deserve To be yelled at That's right Because the only thing We know about What they do They work these long hours Doing we don't know what

[00:18:36] Because we don't know What the business is But we do know That they failed To get wine Delivered to this hotel In a timely manner Based on what had been Arranged The guy calls Scrooge Is very mad about this She's furious Goes and discovers The Christmas party Does she mention To her employees Hey you guys Screwed up the hotel thing We gotta fix that No No way She yells at them About the party And that's it And it's like What about the hotel Where are they gonna Get their wine And also

[00:19:05] If your employees Are this terrible Shouldn't you be Yelling at some more It just is proof to me That there's no script No Clearly they shot All of the stuff That is in there One time And it's like Hey we need another scene You come in Tell the people To get to work And then later on It's like a whole A whole thing Yeah Now once the ghosts Start showing up This is a take it To the tape I don't know If y'all noticed this The The on screen words Are supposed to say

[00:19:35] Christmas Eve Many years ago It doesn't And they just say Eve Many years ago I wrote it down Like who is Eve In this movie Eve many years This is Eve From many years ago Like how did that happen Well I think we have a theory About him not knowing How to edit the movie Because of something else That happens later And I'll let you take it If you're gonna take it But Eve many years ago I couldn't That was a real head scratcher And then at one point It happens twice Yeah it happens twice Guys at one point A red banner appears On the screen And we've seen this

[00:20:04] I don't know I'm gonna lowball it 50 times Where it's gonna say Christmas day And it says December 25th Which I've never seen I've never seen a movie Tell me that it's December 25th Never Make of that What you will That's right Yes So okay You're right The whole thing With the You know The parents Were loving And did their best To make a nice Christmas For her We're supposed to get The idea That she hates Christmas Because her Classmates were garbage That's right

[00:20:34] And bullied her For being poor And it's like Okay fair enough I mean they're terrible But like you know That counts as a character Motivation That's kids for you Yeah for sure But And I'm not saying That they had to show Her living in a hovel But the place That she and her parents live Is the sort of Generically Normal Yeah middle of the road That's right White walled Apartment That you see in these movies I'm like That's right Yeah And her mom Handmade her address

[00:21:04] Yes It's like It's so thoughtful I will say My feels should have Legitimately been Like I grew up And my dad We lived in the parsonage Like we didn't have Land or anything We had nothing Like I Like We had so little And my parents Made Christmas So important anyway And that does not Lead you I am sorry 10 out of 10 times That does not lead you To hate Christmas It just doesn't So then why do you That's true

[00:21:33] It's a great question It's a great question Yeah Fun fact We're not gonna talk about it On the pod Fun fact for those Just joining us For this episode I don't hate Christmas That was good Anything else Alonzo? So much Yeah And then just the idea That Oh well All the digital snow In the ghost visits Were bananas And then yeah The fact that After all that

[00:22:03] Like her big solution Is she's gonna make them All come in on Christmas Anyway But it's a party So it's a party though They don't have family No one in this movie Has a family No one Different Okay I do want to Address two Things that happened In this movie That I've not seen Before In any movie We've done We've done a lot Of bad movies One of them Is I would say 75 to 80% Of this movie Is shown to you In a widescreen Letterboxd format Correct

[00:22:33] Occasionally They will cut to a Cutaway shots Establishing shot Whatever that is Widescreen And you're like Oh that's interesting But whatever Maybe it was for the IMAX Yeah But They shot the same day As sinners Yeah Coogler let them Borrow the big cam Yes But at one point The shot Includes all of the Time stamp Yes Information of that Particular shot Did you see this Wow I missed that Yeah

[00:23:03] For a very brief moment One of the One of the shots Has all the watermarks So Oh my god Yes To then To let people know So when it When it is in The widescreen Letterboxd Format Aspect though When they do The digital snow And the various Lights that are flashing The snow Is Goes past us Falling on The black part Of the screen Oh

[00:23:32] Which means That the maker Of this movie Cropped Yeah The Most of the footage In this movie I think Because they Couldn't figure out How to get rid Of the time stamps Yeah I've Never In my life Seen it The snow Falling outside Of the movie Is like something That you're like This movie would have Crushed in 4D Like it is weird Like you want to talk About taking you out Of an experience When you see

[00:24:02] When you notice That black strips On the top and bottom Of your screen And we're watching On like an OLED And all of a sudden The snowflakes are all Over that area Of the screen It is a wild experience Tough go Tough go Real tough So That was Yeah Something To say that I was Disappointed Or underwhelmed By the outside Of Scrooge's house And the inside Of her car Would be an understatement This was Oh my gosh A fine house

[00:24:31] The car Dan pointed out Was What was So She says At one point Have you seen The car I drive Yes Ebony We have It's a 2014 Nissan That is what you drive No one is judging you About a Drive what you want To drive Girl But do not Tell everyone You're rich And material possessions Are important And then Flash to you In a car With no screen On the inside This is

[00:25:00] Pre-screens There's no Nav There's no Carplay It is a Nissan Altima From 2014 Yeah And the house Thing It's like Usually The Scrooge Story Takes place You know In a big city And so We And they've They've Already Shown us That Scrooge Doesn't spend money He's not gonna Even heat his house So that But we are Made to believe Early on That she is I was just I expected

[00:25:30] A much bigger house It's all about The money For Ebony Yeah Yeah Yeah It just I was caught Off guard By that Shout out Marco's pizza Yeah Shout out to Marco's Also Our guy Is just Sipping out of A Capri Sun Yeah He is Which You know I do that When my kids Have a Capri Sun And they've Like they're done With it But there's still A little bit In there I'll just I'll drink The rest of it But I'm not out there Seeking out Capri Sun But you know what If you are Well you're not A wine guy

[00:26:00] That's true I'm not a wine guy He's got a refined He's got a refined palette And nothing but Capri Sun Can really scratch that itch Alonzo Did you pick up on this one In two different times They are in this office They are decorating They are putting up Christmas decorations Pillows on a table Yes And the music In the background For reasons I don't know Is an instrumental version Of the Hanukkah prayer Da da da da da da I did not tap it Da da da da Wild Wow

[00:26:29] Wild Okay But you know what Inclusion And you love to see it Ebenezer's Holiday That's exactly right How dare we assume This is another example Of a Christmas Carol movie Where the characters In the movie Are aware of Ebenezer Scrooge Know what a Scrooge is Thank you I meant to bring that up Yeah Which is This is twice in a row now With these Christmas Character movies So that's wild Towards the end They're all drinking His wine They run out

[00:26:59] And he says Don't worry I can make more Now You can make more Wine now Yeah Don't worry I can make more Is a big one for me I can make more I can real quick And get him some Loaves and fishes You'll be blown away Give me five minutes Tops And I can I'll whip up Another batch of wine Well no It's his blend Of Eleven herbs And spices That's right You get it Two more Really quickly One The ghost of Christmas present Has an Instagram Which took me out of it I didn't see that coming

[00:27:28] And then the last one If you looked like that You would too That's fair You mentioned That they do the ribbon With the December 25th Yeah ma'am I do want to point out What happens here She The last ghost Leaves And in every adaptation Of Christmas Girl I've ever seen We get the What day is it Yeah It's the Christmas day That whole thing Right So Everyone When she Wakes up It is safe To assume It's Christmas Right And she goes in

[00:27:58] And she has The conversation With her Office About how You're gonna get Time off And you're gonna Get a bonus Then she goes To her parents And that's When they decide To put December 25th On the screen After that So when did That Like is that A Christmas Is that a Christmas Eve This It makes This movie Puts Everything you think You know about A Christmas Carol On it Turns it upside down I mean it's bold To cancel Tiny Tim

[00:28:27] But they did it They canceled him It is Well I saw what he wrote That tweet From 2015 Stuff Dan So we knew We were in For a fun one When we had to Rewind it During the credits Because You're gonna love This Alonzo And you should Go back If you still Have access To this Particular film You know How in movies Guys for the last I don't know Few decades At least If not more That all the Actors names Will appear On the screen As the movie Starts In most cases Some

[00:28:57] Auteurs The Chris Nolans They don't do that But most movies As the movie Is starting You're establishing Kind of your Place and time You'll see The actors names Well In this particular Movie April Dillard I don't know What part she plays Her name Pops up Twice So it pops up Once Name It's like Name Name April Dillard Name Name Name Name Name

[00:29:27] And you're Trying to give Them the Benefit of The Doubt Maybe they Switched to The Producers No They didn't This is the cast April Dillard Twice Ebony's parents Are vampires They They They They can only Be seen at night In places they Own or have been Invited to And haven't Aged a day They haven't Aged a day Since she was A child Not a single Solitary day I think at one Point they're Wearing a Similar outfit To what they

[00:29:56] Were wearing 30 some Years ago So that's Crazy That's a crazy Classics You know Yeah April Dillard By the way Played The lead In Stuck On Christmas Oh Her Twice They doubled Up I think She might Be A ghost No She's the Other woman In the In the Shop She's One of Yeah She's the One who Sings Mariah Carey Yeah Oh Yes Yes That was Such a Performance

[00:30:26] So good You gotta Name it Twice So good You gotta Name it Twice Ebony gets So angry At whoever Made the Coffee That she Says this Coffee is A three Of ten Which Like Either say The coffee Sucks One of ten Three You put Thought into Three of ten Like three Of ten Could be Worse Right It could Be better It's You're gonna Drink it Like To get That angry And then to Give them

[00:30:55] 30% Of the Credit Is just A wild Ad-lib Where you Don't say That And I Love that She thought She took That's the Sickest burn Yeah Ebony Yeah Ebony didn't Just offhandedly Go this Coffee Sucks She Thought about It Went through All the Coffee She's had In her Life And went To three Of ten Hope you Sleep Tonight Three Of ten Sit with That For a Little Bit She Gets In her 2014 Nissan Altima On December 24th I believe Turns her Car on

[00:31:25] And gets Furious That it's On the Christmas Radio Station Ma'am Who put The station There Who did It You know All the Stations Switched to Christmas On the 23rd It is Your 2014 Altima That I Could get For six Thousand Dollars Right now You put You're in Charge of The radio In your Car At some Point you Were listening To Christmas Music Maybe Maggie Snuck in In the Middle of Night And reset The dial Maggie

[00:31:57] We do Go back In time To see That Ebony Didn't get A gift Because she Was not Going to Give one Back and She was Poor And because It says Eve Many years Ago The problem Is is that The box That the Little girl Is going To give Her Is later A prop In Nate's House The same Gift That this Child is going To give A mere Thirty Years ago Is sitting Prominently For a Long time On Nate's Counter Look if the Parents haven't Aged neither Have the Presence Neither have The Presence That's exactly Right

[00:32:27] I mean what Are you going To do And then Lastly There is one Actor Who is There In the Office And he Has two They have Two earrings On and a Pantsuit On like a Brownish Pantsuit On and They don't Talk The whole Time And at One Point That Character Says That's Really Generous Thank you With their Mouth Completely Close So like Their Mouth is Closed But we Hear a Voice That is 100% Supposed To be Them

[00:32:57] Say That's Very Generous Thank You Contriloquism I guess I guess Shout out To April Dillard And also Shout out To April Dillard That's all It's time For what The hallmarks What are we Still wondering About I'll start With you Alanto I really Want to Know how This Empire Works Like who's Backing These Movies How long Do they Have To make Them Who's Dealing With Now I have A lot Of Questions About The Post Production

[00:33:27] Now That You've Cracked Open This Whole Letter Boxing Gate And These Recurring Cast Members Did They Make All Of These Over One Weekend I Want to Know How This All Played Out Yeah Well What's Interesting About This One Is It Is Attached To Maverick Entertainment As Well As His Other Production Company Maverick Like Distributes A lot Of Different Movies And So But

[00:33:56] His Other One Was Not Interesting Maverick Same Quality Yeah So like Maverick Entertainment For example Like if I Just go off Of what They have On their IMDB Like Xenon A Maverick Entertainment Movie Apex Says On the Netflix Right Now It's It is All Over The Place And So I Don't Know What I Don't Know What Happened With This Well And Mine Like I'll I'll Piggy Biggy Back On That I I will Say

[00:34:25] If we Assume That This Guy Has The Cameras Right He Has The Cameras To Shoot A Movie Or If They're Not Phones Or I Camera Yeah Yeah Camera Well it's Safe to Say It's An Actual Camera Because Of The Time Code Situation Which But Safe To Say He Owns The Equipment And He's Not Paying For Location I

[00:35:03] I Don't Think It's A Terrible Like I I I Watched The Guy Who Played Nate He Did All Of His Work In One Day I He Did He's

[00:35:33] Curious About How This Works Yeah Same Same Because I Think There's A I Think There's A Scenario Where He's Turning A Profit Sure Yeah Which Is Why I'll I'll Text Him I love We're Buddies We're Buddies I Do Want To Know Story Wise What Is Going On With The Weird Playground Christmas Gift Exchange Between These Kids It Is Wild I've Never Seen It Before And I I Two Kids I've Never Been To A Playground And

[00:36:03] Seen Kids On Their Own Right Just Exchanging Gifts And She's There Right And A Girl Wants To Give Her A Gift And One Of The Other Kids Says Don't Give One To Her She Won't Give You One Back What Is This Thing Like Did She Stumble Upon It Yeah And Who Now Gets That Gift That Wasn't Given To Or Is It Obviously Handed Off To Young Nate Who Will Treasure It Forever Is This Shot At Free Playground Guys Did

[00:36:32] A lot Did The Five Five Or Six Different Kids Just Show Up At The Park And They All Happened To Have Gifts They Couldn't Get School They Couldn't Get A School They Got A Free I A Little Bit Of

[00:37:02] A Bigger Budget Movie It Got Josh Gatt It Got Alexander De Nario Daveed Diggs And It Was On The Festival Circuit Last Year Just Came To Streamers But Since It People's Retreat Like I Thought

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