Following Yonder Star (Hallmark Channel - 2024) ft. Doug Jones

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I'm Brian and I love Hallmark Christmas movies. I'm Brian, I like Hallmark Christmas movies. I'm Dan and I despise Hallmark Christmas movies. And I'm Doug and I love, love, love, love Hallmark Christmas movies. And this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I love that Doug introduces himself as Doug as if he's not Doug Jones. The Doug Jones. What we do in the shadows, Doug Jones. Unbelievable.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Star Trek Discovery, Doug Jones. Guillermo del Toro's monster Doug Jones, Hellboy, others. The Doug Jones is here with us.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's one of our favorite traditions having the old Dougie here. Dougie, Merry Christmas to you.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Merry Christmas to you puppies. You know, this is one of my favorite things I do every year. This has become a Christmas tradition for me to be with you guys.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will say this just to brag on Doug because he never brags on himself. Doug found time for us, like made it work.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And he does every year. The dude is busy. He's nonstop. And for some reason we are blessed enough that Doug makes some time for us. Doug, thank you so much for doing that. Seriously, man.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thank you for having me. It's an honor because I really do love Hallmark. I wasn't making that up. I love Hallmark Christmas movies. So to talk about them. It's a joy.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I know one of your many traditions is around this time of year, you'll work and then you'll come home and you'll unwind with a Hallmark Christmas movie.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you've been busy. Have you had the time to watch many of the new ones yet? And if so, do you have one that's kind of sticking out to you? Aside from following Yonder Star, which we'll get to in a minute.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we're going to get to that because it is indeed a standout for me this year. I loved the sequel to Three Wise Men and a Baby. Three Wiser Men and a Boy was top notch.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Really fun stuff there. Yeah.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. For sure.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you done working for the year? Are you in full Christmas mode?

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually doing a huge monologue in a cameo for a movie tomorrow. So I'm memorizing dialogue and I took this breakout here. I'm at that stage since I'm not working in so many rubber bits anymore as much. I'm playing a lot of humans. And these humans I'm playing, they come to me for like the mad scientist or the serial killer.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: At the end of every movie, though, I have this huge monologue to explain why I've been doing what I've been doing, twisting my mustache. These monologues are killer to memorize. Yeah.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: What is one Christmas tradition that you haven't done yet this year that you're looking forward to once you're done with the monologue and whatnot?

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Well, I actually Christmas Day, which is one of the fun things that we do. We have a house full of family over here. We always host here. And I have I'm given all kinds of gifts over the year at the conventions I visit.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Some things I can keep something that I just don't have room to keep. I cherish them. I'm so sweet. I live let them live in my house for a year. And at the end of the year, what can I? I put it all in a grab bag and I pass it around the room. Everybody has to take something home with them.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's fun. I love it. My daughter loves this. She's like, oh, what's in the grab bag?

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you got to invite us over one year. I'd love to get my hands on the grab bag. That's for sure.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We are talking a better way to say what I said and I stand by it. I got to get my hands on the grab bag.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that what the kids are calling it?

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't. I got to talk following yonder star.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's break it down in case you missed it. Originally aired on Hallmark on December 15th, 2024.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a big grab bag that day, but this is the one that aired on the Hallmark Channel.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It went a little something like this.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby Marshall is a famous actor who has spent many years on a show called Guiding Grace.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: She seems to really resent her character of Gabriela because everybody only knows her as that role.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: This show has been canceled, though, and her ex-husband, who also played her husband on the show,

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: is getting remarried and is expecting a baby.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: She is shocked by this because she thought that he didn't want kids.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Right after this, she loses it on a store clerk who keeps calling her Gabriela

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and refuses to be understanding about an ornament situation.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: This causes quite the crowd to form, including many people filming it,

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and that incident goes viral, painting her in a bad light.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby decides that she wants to leave L.A., so she quickly books a room at a resort,

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: but when she gets there, she realizes a bit of a mix-up has occurred,

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: the mix-up being that Abby booked for the wrong year.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Who hasn't?

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The concierge, though, suggests a B&B nearby that she knows for a fact has one room left for her.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So she shows up and is immediately, it's not what she's expecting.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy who's running the B&B, his name is Nick, and he's very awkward because he recognizes her,

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and he explains that his late wife was a huge fan of hers.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The townspeople are buzzing that Abby is staying there,

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: not because they're big fans of hers, but because she just went viral for being a diva.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: This is big news for the town.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby ends up helping with the town's Christmas pageant that Nick is directing.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: His late wife used to direct it before she passed,

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and he's keeping her legacy alive by doing this pageant.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick's daughter is even in the play, and as cute as can be.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: There are some prayers and mentions of God because this is a Dayspring movie,

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're contractually obligated to.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that is the reason.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Zoe is Nick's sister-in-law, and she's very concerned about Nick being into Abby,

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and Abby's just kind of hanging around him and with the daughter,

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and Nick is like, shove off.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She's my daughter.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything is going to be okay.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick and Abby have a romantic evening together,

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: including a carriage ride through the woods, some hot chocolate, some stargazing.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What's not to love?

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It is the final dress rehearsal, and Abby is in her element.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: She is born to direct.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Then there is a Christmas masquerade ball because that's something that definitely happens

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: at least somewhere, I'm sure.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby tries to stay anonymous but is called out by a townsperson who just does not like her.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby stands up for herself, and this time, though, it's not recorded.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But didn't record.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a tough break.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They record all the time, and I'm there.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick and Abby slow dance to a Jennifer Hudson song, big week for Jennifer Hudson.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's been in every movie.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby tells Nick that she's having such a good time and wants to extend her stay through New Year

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: before going back to L.A. for filming.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They try to end the night with a kiss, but they are interrupted three separate times.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a big week for the interrupted kiss.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a lot.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's three times.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's tough.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Her agent calls her, though, right after this and tells her that she needs to come in for

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: a screen test on the 26th.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The network is nervous about the bad press that she's received, and so she no longer

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: has this roll in the bag.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But she doesn't want to let the kids down and leave immediately, and so she's like, I don't

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: want to do this.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So the agent tips the media off that she's directing this pageant as some sort of charity

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: work.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they show up.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Nick finds out about this and thinks that it is Abby that tipped off the press, and so

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: she is mad.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He's mad at her about this and tells her, hey, this is my wife's legacy here, and you're

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: not going to use it for publicity.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The pageant begins, and one of the kids forgets the lines, and so Abby, who did not leave

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: town, ends up showing up to help her, and it becomes an improv show.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We love good improv.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially around that.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Nativity, yeah.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We love nativity improv.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Nativity improv.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all in the wild.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Incredibly.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby shows, I'm sorry, Abby wants to stop playing this perfect character, and instead she

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: just wants to stay here.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And so she turns down the role, and is just going to hang around town for a while.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Abby and Nick kiss as the night sky shines upon them.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The star, if you will.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And that, my friends, was following Yonder Star.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We did it.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a quick break.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll come back.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Doug Jones will be joining us to break this movie down here on Deck the Hallmark.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I was drinking water, and you got there real fast, and it was either try to get to Deck

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: the Hallmark or just take the sit a few plays out.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to welcome them back by yourself?

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, everybody.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Deck the Hallmark.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking following Yonder Star with our good buddy, Doug Jones.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Brent, how many segments do we have on this show?

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We have four segments on this show to help break it down.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to start with a hot take.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's where we share exactly how we felt about this movie.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We do not hold back.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Brian, I'll let you start.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll let you show Doug Jones how hot takes are done.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: This is big pressure, big pressure.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Brian, what did you think about following Yonder Star?

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mind it at all.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a new way to say that.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't mad at it.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Expectations for me were kind of low.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Low, yeah.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's tough because Brooke, John, I mean, these...

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Heavy hitters.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Big time heavy hitters, and I really didn't want to be let down by it.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't at all.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I was actually...

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The way that people talked about Abby in public when they didn't know she was there

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: is how, in my head, people talk and think about me anytime I'm doing something.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the worst case scenario.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I just say it right to your face, though.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You do, and I appreciate it because I know you're thinking it.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you are a diva.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You are a diva.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just nice to be represented on the screen like that.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I felt like there were stakes.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_03]: The one-two punch of this little girl, her mom has passed,

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and oh, she's also the daughter of the innkeeper, was also like,

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: oh, okay, we got some stuff going on here.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Brooke's character, Abby, had the worst people in her life,

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: like the manager who's not looking out for her at all.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's stuff going on there.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like the lessons of how the person who plays a character on TV,

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: that's not who they are in real life.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: They're different.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And they didn't let up.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They kept that kind of going, and she fought back.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Doug Jones is a literal monster.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't know that?

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a literal monster.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking just on Hallmark.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He put on makeup for this show, but normally he looks like an actual monster.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I know that.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I know that.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I watch it.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was kind of cool that they committed to that and kept bringing it up

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and showing these different scenarios where people were acting very rude

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and they thought they were allowed to talk to her and about her like that.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you can't do that.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: She's a human.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: She's a person.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Take note, viewers of TV and movies.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I was really surprised by it.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I had a pretty good time with it.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Dougie, I want to ask you, as an actor who has had some pretty memorable roles,

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: before you share your hot take, has this ever happened to you where you're in public

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and someone comes up to you and just refuses to call you by your name

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and just continues to press you as if you're actually the person that you

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: or the monster that you portrayed in a movie or whatever?

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Not in public to my face so much, but on the social media when I'm getting there.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_04]: There was one fan in particular when I was on Falling Skies

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: who refused to call me anything but Cochise, the alien I played on that show.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, I would sign off.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, thanks so much, Dougie.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you, Cochise.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, never signed.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It was their thing.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It was their thing.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun thing that they do.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about this movie?

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to hear from an actor your thoughts on this movie.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And as an actor, I have to give props to the writers of this first.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, John Elliott Jordan and Carly Mantilla Jordan

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_04]: knocked this out of the park from an actor's perspective.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They really knew the showbiz and the idea of celebrity

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and how dangerous it can be out there now in this world we have

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: where everyone has a cell phone that is a journalist and a paparazzi.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't do jack nothing anymore.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So I loved how – and what you were just talking about,

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: the balance between your characters on TV or film and your real-life personage

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and how people treat you in your life, how real humans treat you.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot – when the innkeeper, Nick, I loved how out of the loop he was.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't know jack nothing.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Proactively out of the loop.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: On purpose.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And when that one guest lady of the inn recognized Brooke's character, Abby,

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: as that lady from that TV show.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But she's the scandals.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And she was like all nitty-pitty at her.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And Nick stepped in to say, hey, hey, and to remind her that we all have our bad day.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_04]: We all have meltdowns.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You saw me with the plumbing the other day.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Do that.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And he said – what was his quote?

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you want your most vulnerable moments broadcast to the world.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is – I have – that rings in my head that – yeah,

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm really glad that I'm an older actor because in my younger day,

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad that everything wasn't recorded, you know, on the street and in my personal life back in the day.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So I get that a lot.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved – but the overall impression of this movie, I – it was so good.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought the writing was hilarious and touching all at the same time.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I laughed.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And I did – they got tears out of me.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: This is rare.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, I love my Hallmark movies.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But to actually get wet in the eyes more than once –

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: they did their job.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: That whole theme of hope, that you'll get me every time with the hope.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And following the star and light in a dark place, you get me every time.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And they still included all of the Hallmark tropes that I long for.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, a big city kind of idea, getting away to a small town, finding love there,

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, reevaluating life.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all there for me.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It was all there.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I love every minute of this one.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I really did.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And Brooke Dorsey and John Brotherton.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Are they – Mrs. Laurie and I watched this together, and I kept pausing to go,

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: are they not the most adorable people?

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: The chemistry was so right between the two of them.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They were both so on point with their comedic timing and their sentiments.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That's some of the best Hallmark acting I've ever seen.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and Rick Dorsey has the best hair on that channel.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Great hair.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Great hair.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Hair was on point.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always on point.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie is, in a word, charming.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It just wins you over, and these two are incredible together.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think some of the best chemistry that we've seen this year is these two together.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought his character was really funny, and he could have just been this goofball guy

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: who's out of the loop the whole movie.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But then we have these scenes, like the scene where he prays really works for me.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that he acted the heck out of that scene and really showed off –

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You could even say he acted the hell out of it.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I would pray.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: More accurate, actually.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You see what happened there?

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So I found this movie to be incredibly charming and lovely and a nice closeout to this week.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really nice.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Dano?

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Expectations for these movies matter.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: This was a Dayspring movie.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Last year's Dayspring movie made me sick to my stomach.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They also did an Easter movie that made me act upon being sick to my stomach.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I was expecting the worst of the worst because the Dayspring track record has not been good.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They have been movies that have been overt, and they're proselytizing.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They've been movies that take scripture out of context.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They've been movies that do a lot –

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Friends love language.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Do a lot terrible for good people of faith.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This movie subverted all of those expectations.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best Dayspring movie, which is faint praise.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best Dayspring movie that they've ever made.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will say to echo at this point the sound of the echo echoing,

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: John Brotherton and Brooke Dorsey are phenomenal.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I said the Santa class is at or near the top of what I think most people's list at this point.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Not mine, but I think most people have it near the top of their list.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said during that episode, I cared about things in this movie more than I cared about anything in the Santa class.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's true.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And the things I cared about in this movie more were Brooke Dorsey and John Brotherton.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They both are giving excellent performances.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're, like you said, Doug, they're not hammering you over the head with dumb Christmas metaphors or Christian lingo.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like opening up the tent, widening the spectrum to go.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The ideas of hope and faith and needing something positive in your life are universal.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not ideas that are just working for you if you follow a certain church or a certain denomination.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciated that greatly.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, until the last 15 minutes of this movie where I think it gets very generic.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, most of my feels in this movie happened before the last 15 minutes where we have a classic misunderstanding.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We have a classic big city girl who's just decided acting is no longer.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just done with acting.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: At least I'm going to move to this small Vermont town.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And some of that felt a little bit rote to me.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Before then, it's charming.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not my thing.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very generic hallmark.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But good on you, Dayspring.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And good on you, Brooke Dorsey and John Brotherton for taking the material you're given and for the writers to punch this up in a way that leaves you with something that has some real emotion to it.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So pleasantly surprised because this was at the bottom of my list for expectation this year.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And it did not end up anywhere near there as we round out the season.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That might be the least curmudgeonly I've ever heard you, Dan.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome, Doug.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: To be fair, let's look back at some of Doug Jones' episodes.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are some real stinkers sometimes.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It was.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Doug tends to join us towards the end of the year.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And that can either go really good or really bad.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Troubling films.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you join us next week?

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we got two movies left and the expectations are low for those ones.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to all the feels where we talk about when this movie gave us feels in particular.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Brian?

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: To quote Letterboxd user Emily, the real star is that little diva playing Mary.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Phenomenal.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_03]: The look.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you ask Letterboxd user Mary before you quoted her?

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I did not.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I did not give her last name.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: No, Letterboxd user Emily.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Emily, my bad.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: There was more to that.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You said Letterboxd user Mary.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Mary did you know that Emily left a review for Following Younger Star.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Eloise, I believe is her character name in this.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_03]: When they do that whole thing with Abby giving her advice and then the look she gives Nick,

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like that look was like one of the best looks I've seen all season.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It was so funny.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: She was great.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Her whole thing with her being a diva was like so well done.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And so she was a lot of fun.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Dougie?

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: The feels.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have a minute?

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We have a minute.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We got all the minutes.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I had lots.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I had so many feels on this one.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: One thing that I really could relate to, again, as an actor, having been in a scenario where I talk to people who have seen my work, right?

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: The one thing I love about the convention circuit so much that I do is hearing one by one what people's personal stories are and what they were watching of mine at the time something was happening in their own life.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So I hear a lot of stories about a death in the family, a recovery from cancer, a graduation from school.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I was during finals week, whatever, where I was a part of someone's life without even knowing about it.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And big things were happening for them.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I've had people come up to my table holding a baby saying that, you know, we watched The Shape of Water as our first date.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And there they are married now with a kid.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, no, I love being part of people's lives.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It really means the world to me.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So when Nick, played by the brilliant John Brotherton, was telling Brooke Dorsey's Abby about watching Gabriela on TV and how much that meant to his dearly departed wife, Natalie.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so he had some life.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And Natalie's end of life was spent with Gabriela on TV being a very big part of her life.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And her comfort.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And so for him to tell her that, I got a little bit welled up in the eyes again.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, well, that's happening.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I get it.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And then what really got me, though, welled up was when Natalie's, dearly departed Natalie's sister, Nick's sister-in-law, was kind of skeptical about Abby at first.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, who's this woman?

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: What is she doing?

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, she brings scandal to our town.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm protective of little Lucy.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: But when she softened and had let's bake cookies together and get to know each other.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gosh.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That conversation they had also brought tears back to my eyes again because she recounted also how much that show meant to her and her sister, Natalie.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They watched it together.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And at first, sister-in-law Zoe was kind of like, you know, a little bit like eye-rolling, kind of like a Dan in the world.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So she was kind of like, I don't know.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And she got looped in and she got absorbed into the show and saw its worth and its value.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And these two sisters shared it together before Natalie passed away.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, sharing that with Abby, it just kind of like those are moments validate an actor more than you know it.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Because once we film something and it's out there, we don't know the effect it has until we hear something like this back again from the people who watched it.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: The biggest feel for me then came after that prayer you mentioned.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_04]: When Nick had his day spring moment.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And now being a person of faith myself, I've seen a lot of faith-based movies.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a lot of like, here's the prayer moment.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: That come to Jesus moment can be done really, really, really poorly or it can be done really well.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the best prayer on film I have ever seen, honestly.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It was relatable.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It was not preachy.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And he had such raw, real emotion as he was talking to God.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And he mentioned things we can all relate to.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he wanted to do right by his former wife, Natalie.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: He wanted to do right by his daughter, Lucy.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And the tears were coming genuinely with him.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And the most beautiful thing he said in that prayer that we can all relate to is, I've been walking through the dark a long time.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I could really use some light.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And that got me, oh, I'm about to go again.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Stop it.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Stop it.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: All of you.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that was going to be mine.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I just thought that that scene was so powerful because of its relatability and obviously the acting chops of it.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I just thought that it was beautifully written and beautifully acted all the way around.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Dano?

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say, I'll get back to that in a second.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooke has a scene where she wells up crying.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And so many times in this movie, we've either seen actors that are supposed to cry and they don't, or the crying has been added.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they cut away and then you see they clearly brought some visine in and like did a thing.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But this like hold on Brooke Dorsey's face as you see the tears will up and then one perfectly just drops.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that is not, we don't see that on Hallmark.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She's good.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's next level good.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I was very impressed with that.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then everyone said it, but I think John Brotherton, what he does in that scene, that's the scene where normally I'm getting my list of complaints out.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like one of my least favorite things about growing up in church is formal prayer.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to prayers for, in church or in, before a meal, they're usually filled with platitudes and big words and scripture references to make everyone realize how awesome you are.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Daddy God.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And so this, this prayer, like sometimes life is so bad that your only hope is that something greater cannot not be real.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's that, that something, there has to be something that, and you don't know for sure, but there has to be something that is, you can rest in something.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And this prayer by this guy is not only expertly written, but expertly delivered in a way that can make people who are sick and tired of the prayers they've heard in church their whole life go, oh, that's what it's like to lean on something that you don't exactly know and to hope.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And that, that, that really, that, that made my, made my heart happy.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was very, very happy with that.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Aside from him walking stage left off real quick.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was weird.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I prayed and then I'm.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And he just took off stage left.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was weird.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes he pray and he walk out.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he, it could have easily been edited where he didn't do it.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go ahead.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Brooks, I think I heard Brooks' motivation in that scene for the tearing up was, was thinking about the hair on everybody else.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't have her hair.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't have her hair.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_04]: There's some people out there acting without this hair.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: She's so compassionate.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She's, the empathy.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's unmatched.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's unmatched.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a quick break.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll come, come back and do the wait one, the what the homework here on.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Deck the Hallmark.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you're doing.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to explain yourself?

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What did you have?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about taking, I was fixing to take a drink.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You were fixing to get ready?

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You were thinking about taking a drink.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Fixing to get ready to take a drink.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to bring us back?

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're back.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Deck the Hallmark.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That was okay.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We're ready for our third segment.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not where you shine.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get that drink now.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to the wait what?

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Since we were talking about one of the two minutes go, wait what?

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Brian?

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Little girl Lucy says she's going to go get a jacket and she comes back with like, I don't

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: know what that's called.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: A shawl of sorts.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Get out of here.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Get out of here.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That thing's not touching the cold.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Vermont is still above the Mason Dixon line.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It would be hard to tell from this movie.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to be.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't feel cold at all.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That was just a big overall observation in this movie.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been to Vermont.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I know what Vermont feels like.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't look like it feels very.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a humble brag over there.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so like you get used to it and then the agent shows up with 10 layers and puffy

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: coat on and you're reminded that's how everyone should probably be dressed.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The healthy way to dress.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what are we trying to catch it?

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Trying to catch a cold out here?

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That was brutal.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just a little weird when Brooke jumped on stage with the kids.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You think so?

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was a little weird.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It was more than a little weird.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted the heart thing.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just weird to me.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's baby's first improv.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It was borderline don't make me sing territory.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She's an actor.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, you need me to get on stage, huh?

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was a little bit of that.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's a robe?

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And the star at the end, it felt rushed.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted more from it.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe slow it down a minute.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Take a beat.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It just felt a little rushed.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it was really beautiful.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It looked really great.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a big moment.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But all of a sudden, it was here and it was gone.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's stars for us.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's what it is.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a big one of the stars for us.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Doug, what made you go wait while you were watching this movie?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Just a couple things.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, a screen test on December 26th would never, ever, ever happen.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Our show business shuts down between Christmas and New Year's.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine, Doug, you having to run lines on Christmas with your family?

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, hey.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody gets it out of the bag until.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope the gifts are great, kids.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But now that we've done that, everyone's getting a script in your stocking.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you could do your best, because I've got to get this thing done.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The grab bag this year is all scripts.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're all going to have a good time.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_04]: We're all going to study.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So there's that.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, I was kind of tickled that a small town theater company.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: A small town church theater group would have racks and racks and racks of Broadway costuming.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I know that it was explained briefly that the part of Natalie had a friend who was a producer on Broadway.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But they never explained.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: How did she have?

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_04]: What?

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they shipped them all up there.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And they explained that, but they didn't explain all the professional lighting and spotlights.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you also have friends that did set deck too?

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of friends.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of friends on Broadway.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of friends on Broadway.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But they did bring it back around.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I see why they had to have those costumes there so that Brooke's Abby character could come out as my fair lady in that beautiful gown.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's the other wait what for me.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: She ducked behind a couple rows of clothes to change and came back with a completely updo in her hair.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That she did without a mirror in the dark.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you kidding me?

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: With hair that good, you don't have to try.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's where the hair and makeup people hide out.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: She wakes up like that in the morning.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, when she came back, when she reappeared at the back of the church, when her little angel protege was forgetting her lines,

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: she just happened to reach over to the rack of choir robes that just happened to be white and happened to be at the entrance and happened to be within reach.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That was kind of a, well, would they be sitting right there at the, yeah, I don't know.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, bless.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Bless.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Bless.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Bless.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the team that got the, you know, the nice fire area ready to go in the woods with baskets of marshmallows.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So that no matter what, the nice thing about the cold is the marshmallows don't get like hard at all.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And so you just leave them out.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You leave them out.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Open air.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Open air shmallows.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And buckets and baskets full of them.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you never know how many you're going to need.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The small ones, big ones.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Marshmallows all kinds.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So many marshmallows.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So many marshmallows ready to go at any time.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And I wish the world was more like that.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen TMZ.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I know how it works.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: How it doesn't work is the paparazzi being very respectful of the other paparazzi person as they ask their question.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You go first.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I'll go.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you go.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll just.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And then no one else.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the two of us.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the two of us asking questions.

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And none of the other ones are going to get a question.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because the paparazzi, they're very respectful of your time and of each other's time.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the one thing that I've learned in my years of watching TMZ.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Dan?

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's because they could afford two day players.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And the rest were extras.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They're new to the job.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They're new to the actors.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't know how to be mean paparazzi.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: How can I yell out without actually yelling out?

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Dan?

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We love to push diversity inclusion on Hallmark.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And we love that they're doing it.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Vermont is 92% white people.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: 92%.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And that must be excluding this town, which is a cornucopia of people in Vermont that doesn't exist anywhere else in Vermont,

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but does happen to exist in this one wonderful town with all the Broadway runway clothes and trees and spotlights and a full diversity where every people group is.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's 92% white, folks.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Look it up.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Google it.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's 92% white.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You got a 9.2 out of 10% chance of running into a white person.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That has to change somehow.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It starts here.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It starts here.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very cold, but not cold enough for the cider stand to show you baskets of fresh fruit.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how do you make this cider?

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've got a bushel basket full of apples and full of oranges that are out here in the 20 degree cold and they're doing just fine.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The basket budget on this movie was crazy.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Big, big on, big on.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: How will they know that it's a cider stand in 20 degree weather?

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What about 30 oranges?

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Pick your own.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: What about 30 oranges?

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good crop.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good crop of oranges for the cider.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You've heard of pick your own Christmas tree.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: This is pick your own orange.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I also love magic telescope.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I had magic telescope.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Big fan of magic telescope.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Look in this telescope.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a cartoon of that star.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That star isn't, that was, that was unbelievable.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That was who framed Roger Rabbit level of super imposition of animation.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I love magic telescope.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Big fan.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I love the idea of John Brotherton always standing up for her honor and not letting anybody

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: talk bad about her worst moment.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He's watching that video, right?

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's what, like he is, you know, after, you know, in the privacy zone home, he is going

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: to at least see the quiet moment after the ends quiet.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's asleep.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no world.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Dougie, you're the best of all four of us.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you're watching that video with this woman.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's asleep.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to watch.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So that way he knows better how to defend her.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He's watching that video.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Even the reason for watching it is honorable.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got going to be like, I don't care.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to watch it.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the thing is too, when, when you watch that video, you find out that the narrative

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: around the video is much worse than what she did on film in the first place.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he should watch it to learn that.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I 100% don't want to stay at this inn.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like problems are happening everywhere all the time for everyone.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And also that John Brotherton isn't capable of fixing them.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't, he runs an inn with constant plumbing problems and he can't fix any of them.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Good thing Brooke Dorsey's there to operate on a tub in what I can only describe as the

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: quietest plumbing of all time.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He is standing there and we get a closeup and she reattaches.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to reattach a new shower head to my shower yesterday.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_01]: She reattaches an entire tub operate like the faucets and everything.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't hear a clang, a wrenching.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: She's good.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It is unbelievable.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a talent.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's unbelievable how quiet it is.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't even swear once.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't swear a single time.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It worked out perfectly.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Dang it.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Darn it.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Dang it.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Darn it.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh darn it to yonder star.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, he pours hot cocoa in this movie and it's disgusting.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's this just like dirty brown liquid.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not hot cocoa and I wouldn't recommend anyone drinking it.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned it where she gets this dress for this masquerade ball and goes back

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and changes and like her hair is just done.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: May I suggest that surprise a formal event is in the other room is not is going to backfire

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: sometimes.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You say, hey, what are you doing?

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a surprise for you.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And you take them to the location.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Hold up a dress and go surprise formal event.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it could go the way that it went, but it can also go really poorly.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Dress doesn't fit.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Nowhere to do the hair.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Not prepared for formal.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot could go wrong there.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all I got.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: With Brooke Dorsey's hair, though, it could never go wrong.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no way it can go wrong.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It can never go wrong.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows that.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: She knows it.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: She knows it.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to what the hallmark it is, where we wonder what could have been.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe having us a clarity, any questions that we still have.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What are we still wondering about after we watch this movie?

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What's your burning question, Brian?

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought we were going to get kind of weird with some science stuff.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a science teacher.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't get really a lot of science stuff at all.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You thought we were going to get weird with science.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought he was going to be throwing out facts left and right,

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: talking more about explosions in space and whatnot.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Great band.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't really get a lot of that.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So what's up with that?

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Is he really a teacher?

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: How good of a teacher could he be?

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't think he's really a teacher.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: How good could he be if he's not trying to lay out the science?

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That is true.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: As Dan's best friend, he talks about history all the time.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: History nonstop.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you still wondering about after watching this movie?

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, golly.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, first of all, I want to give props to this film's director, Jeff Beasley.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He did a great job.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Movies like this don't direct themselves.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That said, I was left with a couple of questions.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_04]: For me, it's usually character driven.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to know the ornament store guy that was so sassy with her and then goes on TV with

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_04]: a completely different story to tell the press of how he was so victimized.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to see him get a little comeuppance.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to reach back around to him to have his coming to Jesus moment.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I also wanted the bad lady in the town who was sassing her about her at the bakery.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And then she was hitting on Nick in front of Abby and then giving Abby the once over

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: with her eyes and she's all about scandal.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And at the end there, Abby had a great moment of telling her off in such a kind, gentle

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_04]: way at the masquerade ball.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And the lady just kind of put her mask back on and stormed off.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to see it's a typical Hallmark thing to see that bad character, the nemesis, also

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_04]: have a come to Jesus moment where they're not so bad after all.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And they learned their lesson.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_04]: She never learned her lesson.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to see that happen.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Call me crazy.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You're crazy.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But I felt that there was some chemistry that is being suppressed between.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The science talk was not even there.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Brotherton and his sister-in-law.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Deceased wife's sister.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: There was something they had.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for sure.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe they accidentally held hands one day and they're trying not to talk about it.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt something there.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to know, I can't be alone there.

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't be alone.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The chemistry was happening there.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's something they're not talking about.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to come up one day.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to come up one day.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And how does that go?

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Dan?

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to know why, like if anybody else thought this or maybe I just was like in the

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: dark about what agents do.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But I thought it was weird that they decided to paint the agent out to be the villain at

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the end of this movie.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I understand Brooke wants to go a different direction and that's fine, but the agent never

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: does anything.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like at one point when she's like, I'm directing this play, I wrote down a half decent agent.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Make sure there's some press there.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a half decent one, like her reputations and tatters.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: She's directing this play.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't shock me at all when he sent the press.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Now at the end, when he's there and he's like, come on, get out of this dumb town villain.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Understand that.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But before that point, I felt like that was just an agent being an agent.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The agent's trying to get this role for this, this actor.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And she, he's, he's not, he's kind of not telling her how bad it is.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's keeping that from her.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like what an agent's supposed to do.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's easy.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You got it in the bag.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You just got to do one quick, you know, read through blah, blah, blah, the day after Christmas.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, he, he obviously hears she's directing a pageant.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, this would be great.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to fit.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to help her image.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get some, like some press out there.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that that's something I would do, but.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Doug has experience with agent.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that he overstepped?

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I have thoughts.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_04]: No, Dan's absolutely right.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That it would be an agent's job.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We also propose this job to do damage control in this situation.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But we don't, again, we had the budget for one character.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It was her rep.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So her rep, let's say it would be his job to do damage control and to try to, you know,

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: put her in the best light.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: She's directing a play in a small town.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Perfect.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But what he would not have done is sent the press there without telling her.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He absolutely would have given her the heads up that they were coming and to give her a chance

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to say yes or no.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And that seems like a product of the movie to keep that from occurring.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Just to make it the misunderstanding.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: That misunderstanding wouldn't have happened otherwise.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I get it.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I totally get it.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we did it, everybody.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations to us.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Dougie, tell the people what they need to know about what you're up to.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that we can look forward to in 2025 or anything else you want to say?

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'll tell you, because it's Christmas season now, on Christmas Day, a movie is coming

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_04]: out in theaters called Nosferatu.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Robert Eggers.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Robert Eggers directed and Bill Skarsgård in the title character.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: A very confusing thing happened in that I also did a Nosferatu movie called Nosferatu,

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_04]: a symphony of horror that came out on streaming services just two months ago.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Very confusing timing.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But Nosferatu, a symphony of horror is out on Amazon Prime and Apple TV as we speak.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And the two movies are very different from each other.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they both start with the Nosferatu vampire folklore.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But ours is a Robert Eggers did his own reimagination of any broadened the folklore and the backstory that got Nosferatu to be who he is.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It's beautifully done, beautifully acted, beautifully shot.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's actually it's I predict Oscar nominations.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you see it already?

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not out here yet.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I did.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They invited me to the premiere.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Very nice.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So I did go and I met everybody.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, Doug, hearing that, I've seen the trailer many times.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I've just kind of been like, ah.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So but hearing your.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_04]: It was more.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_04]: It had some gruesome moments, some sexy moments.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a lot.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_04]: But but but so that's Christmas for you.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's classic.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Christmas Day.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_04]: My Nosferatu movie is more of a scene for scene replica of the original silent film.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But with new actors, dialogue, sound that you didn't have in a silent film.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And and we were combined with green screened footage from the original film.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So I got to play in the original environment that Max Schreck did in the original role.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And we were done in black and white to match that original silent film look, too.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So they're different.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They're very different movies.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But but both.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_04]: If you love vampires, you can love both.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Got to check it out.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_04]: The other vampire show, what we do in the shadows.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Just.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Finale two days ago.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_04]: The final episode was yesterday of the entire series.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So the Baron showed up a few more times in this final season.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm very sad to see this show go.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been like a highlight of my career to be to be in doing a classical vampire tropes,

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_04]: but making ruthless fun of them and getting to play the most doofusy, goofy character ever

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: in my life.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He's so funny, guys.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He's so.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Doug is so funny in this show.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Bless you.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Also.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And also in bit in the feel good pocket.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I did a guest star on a TV show called Blue Ridge.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It airs on INSP, Inspiration Network, and also the Cowboy Way, which is now called Western

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Bound.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm not sure.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand all the streamers, but it's out there.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was a it's all feel good show.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So Jonathan Sheck plays the small town cop sheriff in the Blue Ridge Mountains.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like, you know, and I played a great character who lived in the woods.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And am I good?

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Am I bad?

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know until until it unfolds in front of you.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was very, very feel good.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And and it looks like like they he could return.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: My character could return again.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping so.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And that'd be Blue Ridge season two.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Whenever that whenever you hear press about that, it'll become now.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Doug, we love you.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: This is always a highlight for us.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we're so happy that you continue to come back and talk about Hallmark Christmas

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: movies with us.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You're the best.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for having me.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_04]: This is one of my I said it's one of my favorite things I do all year.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We are we'll be back, obviously, next Christmas with you.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait for that.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll be back tomorrow with another episode.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Until then, maybe the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.

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[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Happy day.

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[00:46:40] Bye.