Gilmore Girls - Season 2 Episode 3

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast. Gilmore the Marrier!

[00:00:22] Season 2 F3 is what we're talking about today. What a time to be alive, Bramble. Great to be here. So much to get to in this episode, but before we do that I do gotta ask, Chad, how are you doing? Oh man, I'm great. The weeks in between this show are just, I'm so maudlin, kind of in between waiting.

[00:00:49] I'm honestly surprised that you're here this week. It's crazy, your commitment. This is between mailbag and the first two episodes, this is four weeks in a row you've made the trip. It's unbelievable. Yeah, the mileage on my car is crazy. Not to mention the fat last... He's been here like eight or nine weeks. This is like ten weeks in a row. I'm planning on just coming back. I gotta be honest. That's why when you say things like you're gonna bring Founders Day Punch, and you're gonna bring a dunk tank, and you're gonna bring all these things to Bramble Fest, people believe you. Right, right. I probably wouldn't. I mean, you put your money where your mouth is. You're driving here every week.

[00:01:19] That's true, yeah. So yeah, prepare. It's gonna be kind of confusing when you switch back to... If you switch back to... If you ever... Yeah, I didn't enjoy it. Why? Why then? Why now? And I may still be here, I'll just be virtually in the other room. Of course. Just to mix it up a little bit. Because you do love hanging out with us. I do. I can't... Yeah, it's so fun. We have a lot of fun. Dan, how are you going on? Speaking of, you mentioned Bramble Fest. I did. That's coming up, right? Deckthalmer.com slash fest.

[00:01:47] What is going on so far? What are the events so far? We have a pajama, a late night party. So, Gilmore the Marrier is gonna do a live episode, or first ever live episode. First ever. After we, as a group with the live audience in the PJs, watch an episode of Gilmore Girls. That's gonna be fun. It's gonna be very exciting. We're gonna move it earlier until around noon, because... No? Yeah, that was late. Late night? It's gonna be late show. Founder's Day Punch is happening. Yes, Twinkies are on the table. If we get to 200 reviews, Chad's gonna eat... No, Hostess Twinkie. 200 for Twinkie.

[00:02:17] Right out of the back. Right at it, with the plastic possibly, if we get to 210. And you know, we talked about it at dinner last night, but Dan and I would also be in on this. Yes. We would also eat... Because I don't even actually know if I've ever had a Twinkie. That's why. We talked about that. And it's been a long time since they tried to cancel the Twinkie. You guys remember? Yeah. Dan told us. I remember a few years ago where they were like, we're done with the Twinkie. Dan's instinct was to run to the grocery store and get a box to eat just in case. Just to say, I wasn't saying to sell an e-bag. You're like Ralph Cramden. We're gonna be rich.

[00:02:45] I've got all the Twinkies. I need to... Pay some respect. Have one last Twinkie. You gotta pay some respect to Twinkie. They do last for a long time. They do. They're designed. They have a lot of preservatives. My whole fallout shelter is all Twinkies and Hostess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Come by if you need. Walls made of Twinkies. Well, that reminds me a little bit about Brett Debbie. Brett Debbie, that's a little Debbie. Do you know about Brett Debbie? No. Do you know about Brett Debbie? The son of Little Debbie. The son of Little Debbie. He grew up in a house of Little Debbie's. He grew up in a house made, constructed entirely.

[00:03:15] Do the math. Really? Yeah. And now he does jazz and scat and spoken word and clubs. Really? Yeah. We should have him on the show. We do. We actually have him right now, Brett. Oh, okay. Oh, great. Yeah. Brett, are you there? Hey, Daniel. Hey, Brett. I heard you brought a Gilmore the Marrier song because Chad had never heard of you. Yeah, I'd like to hear it. Are you ready? Whenever you're ready. It's a theme song of your program. Oh, okay. Oh, let's hear it. Hit it, Brett. My name is Brett Debbie and I'm here.

[00:03:44] I hope you don't eat Twinkies, it's a fear. I don't want you to do that because little Debbies are the best. The end. Wow, Brett. Wow. Yeah. Brett, you sound like you have a cold. I do. Okay. A little different than normal. Let's move on. You sound like you're more of a little Debbie's trust fund kid masking, you know. Also, your catch phrase, Brett Debbie, and it has been for a decade.

[00:04:14] My name is Brett Debbie and I'm here to say. Hey, everybody. My name is Brett Debbie. Right. You've said it literally every appearance and you wrote a song and you didn't say it. Yeah. Which is crazy. New leaf, new year, new me. Yeah. You sound like Conway Twitty. What are you doing? I'm really happy to meet you, Brett. This is cool. Everybody's moving to the country. Okay. Post Malone. Beyonce. I got it. Okay. I understand. Gotcha. Okay.

[00:04:44] I have so many more questions, but later. A house full. I mean, the banister of the staircase. Everything was made a little better. What happened when it rained? Yeah. Do the math. Or the rodents. That's right. Yeah. All right. We're talking Gilmore Girls season two, episode three today. It is called Red Light on the Wedding Nights. I wonder what happens here. October 16th, 2001. October 16th, 2001 is when it premiered on the WB, the Warner brother. Warner.

[00:05:12] And it went a little something like this. The Gilmore Girls are sampling a ton of cake because the wedding is approaching quickly. Naturally, that means that there's more wedding stuff to attend to such as hiring Kirk to be the wedding photographer. Rory and Dean are hanging out, arguing about when their anniversary is. And Rory says, why not two anniversaries? Fair though. Max is over and it's just a nice night with Lorelai and Rory.

[00:05:42] Dinner. Movie. It's nice. Feels like a little family. Max ends up staying over for the first time while Rory is there, which freaks Lorelai out. She wakes up Rory in the middle of the night. She's never had a man spend the night with Rory there. She realizes that life for the Gilmore Girls is about to change forever. Wow. The next morning they go to Luke's diner.

[00:06:06] Luke's freaks out because Taylor is having Stars Hollow's first traffic light installs. Obviously, Luke's not thrilled about this because change. Taylor is pumped about this because progress. That night, Lorelai and Max go on a double date with Rory and Dean and they eat a ton of food at dinner. But somehow those Gilmore Girls have room for ice cream. Can you believe it? Max can't believe it. Dean is like, you have much to learn, brother.

[00:06:33] And he goes on to give them insight about what life is like with the Gilmore Girls. Some tricks of the trade, if you will. When they get home, Max and Lorelai get in an argument. Max wants to know what he should do if Lorelai is gone and Rory is outside making out too long with Dean. Or what happens if she comes home drunk? And Lorelai is like, sweetie pie, I don't expect you to do anything. You're just my guy. Max, but Dean.

[00:07:02] I just want you to make garlic bread and be my little boy toy. She talks them down and they kiss good night. It's bachelorette party time. The gang is all there. You know, I'm Lorelai, Rory, Suki, Miss Patty and Michelle. Obviously. And when they get into the club, she's shocked to see that Emily is there. Michelle is like, I invited her. Uh, naturally.

[00:07:27] Emily shares how much her and Richard love each other and shares a sweet story of their past. And this leads to everybody contacting their significant other to tell them that they love them, to check on them. Lorelai decides I'm not calling Max in this sweet heartwarming moment. Instead, I'm calling Christopher. And she lets Christopher know that she's getting married soon. Interesting move.

[00:07:56] The next day, Lorelai is quite hungover. Max comes to the inn and he's frustrated. He needs to get into the house, but she still hasn't given him keys. It's almost like you don't want to give me keys. She apologizes. And he's like, I just wish that you would think about someone else other than yourself. Just a couple times a day. Uh oh. Later, Luke surprises Lorelai with a, what do you call it? A chuppah? A hoopa. A hoopa. A hoopa. For a wedding.

[00:08:25] Say a little bit more. A hoopa. A hoopa. There you go. They have a moment talking about, hey, he asked me to say this. Yeah, that's why you have me on here. That's right. They have a moment. We're like, Chad, could you be on this show? So when Brand does this, it's not offensive. Yeah, honestly, I remembered this specific moment and I was like, we gotta get Chad. Just for this one. They have a moment talking about marriage and whatnot. It's in sweeps.

[00:08:53] The episode ends with Lorelai in a frenzied state. She comes into Lorelai's room and says, we gotta pack now. We're going on a road trip. And she's like, we're going on a road trip. Mom, you're getting married this weekend. Mom, you are getting married this weekend, right? Good inflection. She says, no. She says, no. Rory is like, why? Lorelai says, I didn't want to try on my wedding dress every night. And that's good enough for Rory. They pack and they hit the road.

[00:09:20] And naturally, they hit the red light heading out of town. And that, my friends, was Gilmore Girls Season 2, Episode 3, Red Light in the Wedding Night. Wow. Red light in the wedding night. Yes. Red light in the wedding. Red light in the wedding. Mm-hmm. Close enough. Everybody has a red light in the wedding. Dance. It's time to play red light. Green light. Groom side, bride sides. Red light. I did just drive here from the Jersey Shore.

[00:09:49] So I was puffing my fist the whole way. That's right. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll break this episode down in Iran. Gilmore the Marrier. La la la la la. Welcome back, everybody. Gilmore the Marrier. Today, we're talking about Gilmore Girls Season 2, Episode 3. Big episode to break down here today. Let's get to it. We'll start with the hot take as we share exactly how we felt about this episode. We do not hold back and I will start with you. Chad. Chad, what'd you think? First hot take.

[00:10:19] Your best synopsis yet, Brand. Wow. Have you done voiceover work for real? No. You're inflection. Everything. You should. Crush this. We'll talk. We need to get you into voiceover. Only if you like money. Yeah. If you don't like money, which we typically don't around here. We are notorious for. You brought me in. So here's my hot take. Another absolute banger of an episode. So this is such a great series because literally half the cast isn't even in this episode yet. It's fantastic. And you could have just two characters in it and it's a great one.

[00:10:48] So very, very weird vibes. We're all feeling it. Max is in the house. It's feeling like we want to get comfortable. It's kind of awkward. It's like the first time you have a friend over and it's just weird. Plus it's Rory's former teacher and also still in the faculty at her school. Yikes. That's weird. I was feeling a little creeped out there. They're working out how to be a couple in real time after already deciding to get married instead of before. So these growing pains that they're showing, but the way they show it, you really feel it. Like you feel the characters really like, wow, this is awkward.

[00:11:16] Um, so really great overall. I love how Dean went from building a car for Rory for the three month anniversary to giving advice on how to be with the guys. He's learned, I guess. But there's one scene that was the funniest scene so far. The whole series, the crosswalk sign where Taylor, right? The giant yellow button. Every single character has great lines. They're all brilliantly in their own personalities and lines. Like right to the very end. I don't know if you saw this part. The older lady was crossing the street super slowly as she's the one doing the best.

[00:11:45] Absolutely brilliant. Really great. And one last part, Michelle inviting Emily to the bachelorette party. So you're evil for your comic genius. That was great. Loved it. Great episode. This episode is phenomenal. And I gotta be honest. I can't believe how much they fit into one episode. Like this episode, starting with the wedding planning, going to the day. The double dates and the argument with Lorelai and Max. The bachelorette party. The opening of the street lights.

[00:12:16] And then obviously the way that this episode ended. The scene between her and Luke. So much happens in this episode. I couldn't believe all of this stuff happened in one episode. And it just keeps you so engaged. There's so much happening. Yeah. Like if you would have told me that at the end of this episode, Lorelai would have basically broken up with Max. I would have been like, no way that's happening this early in the season with the way that the episode was progressing.

[00:12:46] It was just shocking. I couldn't believe it. This was so much fun. Such a good episode. Five out of five. Wow. Or 10 out of 10. Either one works. With a creed or 15 out of 15. It's the same amount of work. Wow, really? Yeah. Do you think? Or 18 out of 20. Not the same. Interesting. I'm a harder critic when it comes to this. When it gets to 20, you really gotta... Is that the same as nine of 10? Maybe. No. No, of course not. No, no, no. Different.

[00:13:15] There's variables. Dan, what'd you think about this one? So, in season two, typically the one thing IMDB user ratings are good for are TV episodes. Like fans of the TV show go and out of 10, actually, not out of 20, they rank every episode. And it kind of gives you a pretty good map of the important episodes just by looking at the number. This episode is ranked by the users on IMDB as the second worst episode of the season. Really?

[00:13:45] Of 20. And I'm here to tell you they're wrong. This is not only the best episode of season two so far, it might be the best episode of the series. And I think, number one, it's because the episode bookends and like they do this thing that doesn't always work where it starts with a silly argument about a red light and then the red light becomes very symbolic in the life of Lorelai. Yes. She's getting ahead of herself. She needs to stop. She wants to go. She needs to stop. This light's new.

[00:14:15] It's right by Luke's. It's amazing. Right. Second of all, the what brand said is exactly right. The amount of stuff that they do in this is amazing. The act of Luke building this thing for Lorelai. Great stuff to show that Luke cares. What thing is it? A chuppah. Very good. Try again. Yeah. There you go. A little more. Okay. Good. The bachelorette party fun.

[00:14:43] A perfect amount of Emily and Richard, which is hardly any at all. No, Richard. The Rory and Dean stuff is great. The best part of this episode, aside from the all of the book ending symbolism and metaphors that I think work not only a lot of times to show us so much dialogue, it doesn't have time to let the viewer put it together. They just are going to tell you. And that's fine. That's what this show is. This episode lets the viewer put in the bigger pieces and it's great.

[00:15:09] But the best thing about this episode is, is the Max and Lorelai thing makes sense for both characters and both characters are right. Like that is very hard to do. Max is right to be like, isn't it weird? You've not given me keys. Isn't it weird that our forever relationship involves me never having any sort of interaction with Roar? Like I don't want you to be a stepdad. And Lorelai's reaction of it's always been me the whole time. It's always been me in my house the whole time.

[00:15:39] Just keep making garlic. That's also right. Neither of them, like both of their frustrations are valid and both of their feelings are warranted and they make sense. And there are they selfish? I guess, but they're correct. I feel like. And so I think it's a really good example of this show. Absolutely clicking on all cylinders, giving real character motivations and drama and being funny in the process. I think this is my new number one episode. Wow.

[00:16:09] Let me play the. You know what's fun? Cause now all the characters are different. That's the only horn. Yeah. There it is. There it is. That's the horn. Yeah. You would have, you missed out. It was a wah, wah, wah. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. But I'm saying now everyone's developed. We can just get into the meat and potatoes and have fun with the story. There's so much meat and potatoes. One thing that's crazy is that Amy Sherman Palladino, what confidence that she put what could have been an entire, an entire season easily into one episode that she was like, I have so much. I'll throw this all year. She's prolific.

[00:16:39] There's no way around it. She does this in Maisel too. It's unbelievable. Like you'll, you'll run through plot lines and you're like, how did she, what's she going to do next? It's fantastic. Cause that could have been a season. Yeah. And the red light is almost like a Gatsby green light across the way. It's, it was awesome. Yeah. Great. Let's get to all the feels. A line in this episode that gave us some feels chat. I had to go with this one. I got it. Luke and Lorelei are under the chuppah and they're talking and she goes, wait, isn't this a Jewish thing?

[00:17:09] Is it okay that Max and I aren't Jewish? And Luke goes, Oh, it's okay by me. That's great. Love that one. Great line. That's nice. And oh, one other one I had to say when Lorelei walks in and we all see Emily, we didn't expect it. Yeah. And she goes, what on Lucifer's reach is my mother doing here? Right in front of her mom. That's good. So yeah. I don't often get the pop culture references in the show. And I, it's, that's honestly to the credit of this show, it's a bonus. Like if you get it, it's a bonus.

[00:17:38] You're not going to get all the pop culture references, but I did get this one. And so I do want to shout myself out, but it's also funny. Max calls, he's in the hospital because his brother jumped over, tried to jump over a parking meter and didn't. And then he got hurt. Concussion. Yeah. And she's like, why did he do that? And he says, middle child. And she says, poor Jan. Yes. And a very funny response by both of them. Him just saying middle child and her saying poor Jan.

[00:18:08] Great. By both. So shout out to me for getting something. Shout out. And it's great. If you get it, you get it. If not, you don't. Dano? Just before your line though, there was one line because he just brought that up with Jan. The brother walks out and goes, I've got a concussion. Let's drink. Yes. A great line. Yeah. Really fun stuff. For me, the scene with Kirk wanting to be the photographer of the wedding, an all time scene and Kirk is the best he's ever been. And he's showing them all of his pictures.

[00:18:37] And in his stat, his portfolio is one of the most famous pictures of all time. A VJ day in Times Square. It's a very, very famous photo. And they're looking through his pictures. And then Max is like, this is VJ day. And he says, deadpan straight face. I included it as an example of the excellence that I aspire to. 10 of 10, no notes. This scene was this episode. Because I feel like last season, we don't get a ton of Kirk.

[00:19:07] And I remember being like, this is a character I could do without. But he doesn't like, you can't do the stuff he's doing early without explaining it. Sure. They've explained Kirk now. And so he's funnier now. I think you have to, you know, you don't have to explain Suki. She's a cook, a chef at the end and the best friend. And we know it immediately. Kirk can't just show up and do stuff and me think it's funny on the first time through. Now, the second time through, I bet I would. Right. And great pronunciation of Suki, by the way. Suki. Yeah, I'm doing better. Yeah. Before you were just a rookie. You were a rookie, but now you're a veteran.

[00:19:37] I'm a veteran. V-der. V-der. Let's take a break. We'll come back. Wait, what? We're in the Starzah here. I'm Gilmore the Merrier. La, la, la, la, la. Oh, I didn't see you there. Oh. Yeah. It's great to be here. We're talking about Gilmore Girls. What? Come on in. Oh. Somebody else is coming in. They were all day. Who was? I'll wait. I'll wait. They got to get their seat. It's fine. Come under the hook. We're good. No, no, no. Come on. We're good. Right there's perfect. Not too close.

[00:20:07] Yeah. Okay. I know. He didn't say, hey, everybody. My name is. He normally says, it's weird. It's like, it wasn't even. Let's get to the wait what. So we're talking about what in this episode made us go. Wait, what? I'll start with you, Chen. Well, that opening off the commercial made me go. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah. Aside from that. Welcome to the show. Yeah. When they opened the show and we all had a wait what? Right at the beginning. Which by the way, we know is a great joke because we didn't talk as much during it. The wedding is two weeks from tomorrow. It's like the third line of the show. It's crazy.

[00:20:36] We're like two weeks from tomorrow. Yeah. What in the world? Yeah. So that was like a short engagement or if there was a jump forward. I don't know. Yeah. We don't get any information there, but we assume it's very soon. It seems very short. It does feel like Rory's not in school at all. So maybe it's the summer and it was a time jump. Right. Yeah. We were already approaching summer last episode. Yeah. But it was still school time. So what I'm saying is, is maybe some sort of time jump. They had to get married before he's back at school, I guess is the thought.

[00:21:05] But then the other way, what was, but has he already gone to Toronto? He had to have. That's my point is that he was leaving the next day for Toronto after the engagement party. So this is a time jump. Right. We jumped time. Okay. So maybe it wasn't as crazy, but still, what was it? A week or so? It's still crazy to throw it out there in a television show that you're watching week to week that's serialized and not explain it. Right. It's still crazy, but I think we can safely say it's a time jump. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:21:33] Out of all the people in the world that she could call at that moment for me, it was wait, what? She calls Christopher who is not that big of a role in this series so far. He's been in a while, one or two episodes. So we don't see them interact at all. And then she calls him and the whole discussion of how you're one of the closest people to me, it made sense. But for me, it was like, wait, wait, what? I didn't expect him to call. Actually, when they first called him, we weren't even sure who was at first. Yeah. We didn't recognize Christopher. And I think that's on us, but I thought he looked different. Yeah. I like that.

[00:22:00] She called him to show that she's not ready to get married and that this is the closest thing she's ever had to a serious relationship because they share a child. And so, of course, in my mind, it's like, let me talk to this guy again to see if that changes my cold feet. Is it cold feet or do I really not want to get married? Right. And she's working through that. And I thought that made a lot of sense. But I got the initial record scratch of it was very dark. Yeah.

[00:22:27] I only have one after that, which is the fact that it's me this time. Hi. Which is apparently they did the bachelor and bachelorette party on a weeknight or at the very least like a Sunday nights. Like then knowing that you have to work the next day, like you just plan it differently. Crazy that they both planned it on a day where at the very least everybody at the bachelorette

[00:22:57] party had to work the next day because they all work together. Just pick a different day. It's crazy to me that they decided to do that and then worked the next day. Just like, I don't know, moving around, do a different day. That's an easy one to change. It's an easy one to change because you all work together and Rory's with you. Like, you know, I guess you got to take Miss Patty's calendar into effect. Uh, Dano. Yeah. I'll go out on the limb and say that them eating every cake this poor woman has knowing

[00:23:24] full well, they're not getting a cake is immoral. I'll go out there. This isn't like you went to a big, you know what I mean? Like if you go to, uh, you know, a Baskin Robbins and decide to try eight flavors samples and walk out, I don't care. If you have a cake and go to a local artisan place where this old woman is making cakes by hand. Right. And you're trying all these cakes with no intention of buying. I couldn't, I was even for those two characters.

[00:23:54] I was like, there's gotta be a better way for you guys to get free cake. I just gotta be. Yeah. And they try to play it for last, but I was like, what are we doing? It's just cruel. It's not okay. It's not okay. You shouldn't do that. Right. She's an older lady still working, working hard. She's still working. She honestly believes you're going to buy a cake and she knows you personally. Right. Come on guys. Maybe they get her cakes. I would say for the end, but no Suki makes all that. And I will say this Max Medina. Who's the actor's name? I don't know. Scott Cohen or something.

[00:24:24] Is it Scott Cohen? Something, something. All right. Yeah. I could be wrong. That guy, his chopping ability is unreal. Yeah. You want to talk about a weight. What they go? Scott Cohen. Scott Cohen is correct. They go to a camera angle where it is him. You see him with a carrot knife. And this dude like finally chops carrots with a knife, no glove on while looking at Lauren Graham and delivering the line.

[00:24:52] He's literally like, well, what are you going to do about Bob? And he's doing it perfectly. Yeah. Like I like to cook and the bane of my existence is just free, free hand chopping. I'm bad at it. It's not symmetrical. It drives me nuts. I can't do it unless I really concentrate. To watch this dude who's not a chef. It's not like Bobby Flay's in there. Right. This guy's just like, just not even looking, delivering lines and he's crushing it. I was so shocked by that and so very impressed, but it was, I just couldn't believe I saw it. It was definitely a weight. What?

[00:25:21] He has to have some kind of training or something with that. Right. I think so. And then my last one is, where is this club? Right. They, they are, their bachelorette party is at a drag bar, which great. Good for them. I'm shocked that the WB wouldn't let Amy Sherman Palladino have a lesbian character because that's the whole thing. Suki was supposed to be a lesbian character and they said, no, that's the way I understand it. But they did allow for a full scene in a drag bar. I think it's great.

[00:25:51] I'm thrilled that they did it, but that's not in stars hollow. Right. They went to a big city. They had to go to the city. Yeah. Right. So not only brand is it the bachelorette party in a weeknight, but they all like Emily, Emily, who can't be bothered to do anything, went into New York city to a drag bar. Yeah. I couldn't, I just couldn't. You only go to New York city and if the bangles are playing, like it's gotta be a big bangles would, would get you there. Right. Cincinnati or otherwise.

[00:26:21] I don't like, I just, I couldn't wrap my brain around. You can do some of the, like though everyone going to a drag bar for bachelorette party. Yes. Right. Michelle coming along in a, in a vacuum. Yes. Going to a Michelle, Emily, and all of those folks all going to a drag bar in New York city on a weeknight. I just, I couldn't quite make all of that work, but it was all worth it. Cause that was a great scene. It was a great scene.

[00:26:50] It was worth it. Yeah. Even though it didn't quite make sense. Characterize it did work. Yes. Um, all right, let's get to written stars. Hollow questions. We have predictions. We have thoughts, any it's all, it's a catch all, right? It's a catch all segment. Okay. Uh, Chad. So I want to know, I'm assuming now they're going to break up because they're not going to survive this, not getting married. If that's where it's going to go. Yeah. I do feel like driving out of town literally at a right before your wedding is pretty good clue.

[00:27:20] Yeah. And the whole talk with Luke and that whole thing. So what is Max is longterm role in the show after they break up? Does he keep coming? Is he a lingering character? Is there a push and pull where they try to get back together? I'm very interested in that. I predict that Max will slowly be out of the show. Like as seasons go on because he's used his, you know, his efficacy. Uh, and how does that affect Rory once she's back in school and the semester starts again? This is why they didn't want to get me together in the first place. Right. Yeah.

[00:27:49] I think my favorite thing about this show is, is they really do use the men and Rory and Lorelai's life for the sole purpose of this is a show about these two women and their character development. It is a show that passes the Bechdel test with flying colors and these men are side shows. They just are. Right. And so even if they're in love, that doesn't consume their whole world. And I think that's amazing. But because we know that about this show and I trust that that will continue, I think Max

[00:28:19] is not long for this one. Right. Yeah. Cause the main thing is the core of those two. So you just can't break that. It's like an atom. It would be just an explosion. I do want to know, we haven't seen Tristan yet this season. Right. As far as I recall, where's Tristan? That's mine. This is mine. Okay. Can we get like, we have seen Richard, Emily, Lane, Kirk, Jackson, Paris. We've seen the other two girls. The other two girls. The town council guys putting up the stoplight. Taylor. Taylor. We've seen a Patty.

[00:28:48] All of the Miss Patty, Miss Patty. All of the stars. Tall guy. Tall guy. Tall guy. All of the stars, hollow and Gilmore Chilton regulars. Yeah. We've seen them all except Tristan. Yeah. Why have we not seen Tristan? He's like the Ryan cook of Gilmore girls. Where is Tristan? He's a little bit like the Ryan cook of Gilmore girls. And I don't understand, like, was it a contract thing? Was he doing other stuff?

[00:29:14] Because it feels like he's just, you know, they do a pretty good job of rotating these folks in so they never feel like they're gone too long. This seems like he's just not as important. And I feel like he probably should be. Am I wrong there, Brand? Yeah. No comment. It could be. Kim, do we have a minute to get an update? Because we have not gotten an update. If you remember your friend Ryan. I don't even know if he's alive. I friend requested. Should we explain who it is? Ryan cook was my dear friend.

[00:29:41] I would say eighth, ninth, 10th grade. We were, I would say we were best friends. Legitimately best friends. You knew his pizza order. You knew his dad's pizza order. Yeah, his dad's pizza order. And we. That's friendship. Yeah. And I, I, I literally has fallen on. I found his Facebook profile. He's not posted anything in a decade. I tried to friend him on Facebook, have heard no response to that. I have tried to reach out to some other folks that we went to school with. Can't find him. Really? Can't find him.

[00:30:11] No, no, never going to give up. Right. Never going to give up. Never going to give you up. Never going to let you down. Never going to run around and desert you. Beautiful. Um, I do want to know, first of all, um, you know, you're not only on the show because you have money also because you're Jewish. There's lots of reasons why we have you on the show, but this is helpful in this particular case.

[00:30:33] Um, the challah, hoppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa, chuppa. Uh huh. How was the chuppa? Oh, it was beautiful. That was beautiful. Yeah. Now, Luke is out here claiming he made this. Yeah. It was weird. So stupid. Right. That should have been a way. Did that seem like a homemade chuppa made by a homemade chuppa a lot? Oh my God.

[00:31:01] Made by a homemade chuppa made by a non-Jewish fella. Gentile, if you will. If you will. Did it, did it. Gentile homemade chuppa. I also saw. Did it pass the sniff test for you? Uh, I mean, that was a beautiful chuppa. The fact that he would have carved this, like he would have to be a master carver. When did he do this? Where? When did he do this? When he's running his 24 hour diner? Yeah. Late at night when he's watching the ketchup drip, like, is he just like carving away

[00:31:31] a little whittle here, a little whittle there? How dumb is this guy? Just saw a picture and was like, yeah. Right. He's no, Laurel. I's not Jewish. I'll do it anyway. They could have easily just had him say he ordered it from like chuppa.com or something. That's not thoughtful. Like making something that's wrong is not thoughtful. I do have a fun announcement though. He's a simple man. Yeah, he's dumb. Right. But I do have a fun announcement. Do you think it's hot? I don't appreciate this. It's not you, Bran. It feels like me. It is not you. It's not. You're a wonderful, amazing person. Even better than that. Luke is trash. Right. But I do want to announce this is the time. Luke Thames is trash. Yay.

[00:32:01] Guys at Bramble Fest, we are doing a live show and we will be under a chuppa, a homemade chuppa. That's cool. Yeah. So come for that. I love the idea of you bringing a chuppa for you. Help me. Help me carry this in guys. It's on top of your car driving down the interstate. That's hilarious. Bigger budget. You can't just buy one in town. Maybe Jake can make us one. Uncle Jake? Maybe Uncle Jake can make one. He's got time. You can make one overnight. It's my uncle and Uncle Jake's furniture. Uncle Jake's. Homemade woodworking furniture. It's very expensive.

[00:32:30] It's been in town in Greenville for a long time. Maybe you'll do it for a bit though. Maybe you'll do it for a bit. Yeah. Maybe you can get it ready in a few months. Those things don't take a long time. Maybe that's a burgeoning new business. No idea. Honestly, it does. Another question. Like this also brings back up the question like how long have they been engaged? Because he made a chuppa. Right. A chuppa. He made a chuppa. You're making a lot of chuppa about this chuppa. A chuppa. A chuppa. A chuppa. A chuppa. He handmade this. Right. In the time.

[00:33:00] That's crazy. It's a time jump. Had to be a time jump. Right. Even that had to be. Yeah. But crazy. Right. Maybe he had one laying around and he pawned it off and said he made it for them. You know. He found it on Facebook Marketplace. He was going to marry Rachel. Rachel was Jewish. He had a chuppa. Okay. There you go. We've solved it. That's the only answer. Dude, can you wait until she finds out that this is a second hand chuppa? Right. Are you kidding me right now? I saw them live too. Oh really? Yeah. A lot of chuppa bands out there. Well, it's the same basis through all three bands. It's all three bands. Snarf. Yeah. That's right. All right, everybody. We did it.

[00:33:30] Congratulations. We're back next week. Episode four. What's going to happen? I don't know. I'm very excited to dive into it with you fellas. Musical episode. Save that for the year in the life. All right, everybody. We'll be back here on Gilmore and Be Merry. Keep Gilmore and Be Merry. That's pretty good. Mailbag. What the? Gilmore the Marrior is a Bramble Jam podcast produced by Brandon Gray.

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