Gilmore Girls - Season 2 Episode 9

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast.

[00:00:50] We're going to be talking about the show. Chad, where are you at today? I am back at my own home studio right now. I couldn't make it to town, but I haven't shaved since last week. You look the exact same, which is unbelievable. I need more nutrients. To have 20-some, 30-some, however many episodes we've done, I don't know how many, we're just fully clean-shaven. And for him to show up two weeks in a row not clean-shaven, it's offensive. It's like he doesn't really care. You know what I mean? I know. Phone it in over there. It's summertime, boys. You know, it's a little different.

[00:01:20] I'm sleeping outside under the chuppah, under the stars. You know, it's a whole thing. Now, I know that you've been working hard on the Bramble Fest Founder State Punch that we'll be enjoying in less than a month now, which is very exciting. What can you tell them? Because I know you've done some, you know, trial and error stuff. What can you tell us about how the process has been for you so far? Well, first of all, it's a lot of fun. And there's so many iterations. I'm only doing the highest top shelf liquor right now. Of course.

[00:01:48] I'm going down in levels to see if it still holds the quality for a lesser price. Of course, yeah. I found out don't really have too many tries before breakfast. That's not working out for me. How many tries would be the most tries before breakfast you would recommend? If it's a coffee morning, like one to two max. One to two max. From experience, yes. Especially on weekdays where you're working, yeah. But other than that, afternoon, as long as you're not driving, have fun. It's Founder's Day Punch. Is it? You're not driving. Is it good? Well, you know what it is?

[00:02:18] It's numb. It numbs you pretty quickly. So you don't really feel or taste anything after the first couple sips. Yeah. So you're fine. You don't feel or taste anything. No, but you see a lot. I've written my best music and songs ever since I found out. Chad, make a medical grade Founder's Punch. That's going to be available Friday night of Bramble Fest. For free. For all attendees. I just don't know how to get it from my tub into like a big, you know, a country. From your bathtub? Yeah, well, that's how I'm making it. It's better to do it in big quantities.

[00:02:47] What if you made it here, Chad? What if you brought the ingredients down? If we get a big punch fall. And then you made it here. Yeah. In the tub there and then carry it from the tub. Not in your hotel bathtub. Just in downstairs. No, I don't even know if you need to do the tub. Yeah. I think if we just do the dunk tank of Founder's Punch. Yeah. Wow. We're the same brand. We should do what? If we buy the punch bowl, we could just do it. That's in a sense, all a punch bowl is, is a little bathtub. Oh, if you put it that way.

[00:03:17] Okay. Then I'll get the little airplane bottles. Right. Then I'll like mix it up. It's just called mini bottles is what we just called them. We've never called them airplane bottles. We just call them from the deep south. We call them airplane bottles where I'm from. Well, here in South Carolina, we didn't have open pour until about 20 years ago. We could only have mini bottles in our bars. That's how I learned to make liquor in a bath tub. That's right. Because, you know, back then. And I appreciate it. You're making your own liquor. Yes, I'm making it.

[00:03:46] It's going to be really good. That's why I'm growing corn. It's a whole thing, but it's taking a long time. People aren't going to know what to expect here. This is a pretty wild. Yeah. Yeah. Bring a straw and also take your Gilmore the Marrier pajamas. Because if you're joining us for the live show, you'll be wearing Gilmore the Marrier pajamas. Dip it in and then squeeze it out. It really adds a nice flavor to it. No, it's going to be wild. What are we doing to this punch? It's going to be wild. You know what?

[00:04:12] We haven't put out any Gilmore the Merrier merch yet, but I do kind of like a shirt that just says, I survived the Founders Day punch. Dude. I like that. I love that shirt. That's pretty good. What wear? Write that down. Write that down, Brian. The Gilmore the Merrier merch line is dropping soon. And it's just that one shirt. And that will do. Just with white. Isn't there a Where's Rune bumper sticker? Where's Rune? Where's Rune? I survived the Founders Day punch at Bramble Fest. Yeah. All that good. A lot of good shirts.

[00:04:41] I'm sure we have some other stuff. Oh, yeah. Branded jorts. We've got a lot to do. You know, we could go back in episodes and see what other lines we've had. Sure. Let us know. If Bramble Jam Plus people are watching. By the way, Dan, we are in the middle. Not the middle, but we are early on in the 45 days of summer. You know about this, Chad. What is that? What do you mean, what is that, Chad? You know all about it. I know what it is. I'm asking for the eyes and audience.

[00:05:08] We are doing a 45-day push to get 45 new members of Bramble Jam Plus. In 45 days. That's exactly right. So my birthday is August 7th. We have to do it before my birthday. That's exactly right. So we are early on in the running. I think, what did it start today or yesterday? Actually, this episode that we're currently reviewing is going to air on the 24th. So it started three days ago. Okay, great. Three days ago. We're early. If you're a listener, let us know what it is. What are the benefits?

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[00:06:06] Sign up. It's the best value out there. And how about for all new sign ups? If we make a Where's Rune sticker, if we'll send you one. If we make a Where's Rune sticker and you sign up during the 45 days of summer, we will send you one. Yes. I'm getting worried about your producer Offset that we are doing that. Might want to write that down too. Let's offset the rapper. The Rapper is producing our... 45 days of summer. So sign up. Let's talk about season two. Chad's going to be taking care of all that too. He's going to be shipping those out and everything.

[00:06:35] Like me shipping pictures to Emily. I'll be right on that. That's right. And I'll say this. If you give the sticker a little smell, you might get a little Founder's Day punch. That's right. Also, if we are to successfully do this by August 5th, Chad has told me that from August 5th, he will not shave until Halloween. Wow. So that if we get 45... Which is 45 days from August. It isn't. Not even a little bit, but it's fun that you would think that. It's close-ish.

[00:07:05] It's busy to October. It's 87 days. Wow. How do you know that? I just did it real quick about it. You freak. Wow. 31 minus 5 is 26, plus 30 is 56, plus 31 is 50. That's some wizard stuff. We will do another... We'll do another 45 days. We'll do 45 days of fall to kick it off. And then that'll get... Wizard stuff is just addition. Basic math. Wizardry. Do you have an abacus hidden behind your laptop there, Dan? That was messed up. That was clicking... Yeah. That was messed up.

[00:07:35] That was messed up, man. That was messed up. That was messed up. Season 2, Episode 9 is called Runaway, Little Boy. Brrrr. That's what it's called. I hate that. November 27th, 2001 is when it premiered, and it went a little something like this. Was that a dog? You hear my dogs? I hear you. Hey, guys. You're fine. A wedding present shows up for Lorelai and Max Medina. And Lorelai is like, we gotta send this ice cream maker back to whoever sent it.

[00:08:04] But they can't find who sent it. But she's like, we gotta do it. Rory and Suki are sad about this because they want to make some ice cream. The next day at school, Rory gets stuck with Paris and company on a class project. And after class, they see that Tristan is back from suspension. Curious. You guys said, Lorelai, we wouldn't see Tristan again. Didn't know about the send-off episode. Debunked. Debunked.

[00:08:30] Lorelai has been attending a business class and a younger student named Paul takes a liking to her and asks her out to dinner. At school, the group reluctantly lets Tristan be their Romeo, meaning, uh-oh, he and Rory might have to kiss. After failing to find who sent Lorelai the ice cream maker, she desperately tries to get rid of it.

[00:08:56] She brings it to the end and Suki is like, we already have an ice cream maker. A big one that can feed, oh, I don't know, an end's worth of people. Maybe you should just keep the ice cream maker and work on moving on. And Lorelai is like, well, there is a younger guy that asked me out. Suki is like, you should go for it. Bad news for Rory. The group is coming to Stars Hollow to rehearse at Miss Patty's. They're coming to Stars Hollow.

[00:09:24] This is bad news because Rory is very nervous that Dean is going to see Tristan. Remember, they got in that fight that one time, but Dean does not know about the kiss with Tristan. And what if they bump into each other? What if somehow it comes up? Lorelai is like, well, you should just tell Dean. And so they role play a little bit trying to see what it would be like to tell Dean about the kiss. Let's just say Rory is not going to tell Dean about the kiss. Not after that situation there.

[00:09:52] Tristan shows up to Stars Hollow early just to harass Dean. Rory shows up just in time to stop Dean from ending his life. He's not thrilled that he's going to be the Romeo, but there's nothing that she can do about it. So he's got to be okay with it. Lorelai and Rory meet up at Luke's. Lorelai tells Rory that the date was casual and fun. She's a casual dater now. And Rory tells her about the Dean Tristan fiasco. But then Dean shows up and says, hey, guess what?

[00:10:22] I'm off work tomorrow. I'd love to come and watch your rehearsal. I'd love to come. I'd love to come and watch your rehearsal. So the next day she goes to give Tristan a heads up and asks him to not tell Dean about the kiss. And he's like, okay, but he's going to know it when we kiss on that stage. And he sees just how comfortable we are kissing. Uh-huh. Uh, before the rehearsal, Rory and Lorelai are together at Luke's when Paul comes in with his parents.

[00:10:52] He's looking quite young. He looks like a child and Rory gives her a hard time. It's rehearsal time. And Tristan does not keep his word. He looks right at Dean and is like, this reminds me of our kiss at the party. Dean assumes that he's just messing with him, being a big jerk like he always says. Rory encourages him to leave. Luke doesn't let the casual date thing go.

[00:11:19] It's really bothering him that Lorelai is now a casual dater. Um, Lorelai confronts him on it and he's like, it's fine. It's fine. Just live your life. It's fine. Uh, I don't think Dan's going to like that part. What? Get out of here. It's performance night, everybody. And Tristan is nowhere to be found. He finally shows up, but just to say goodbye because his dad is pulling him out of Chilton and sending him to military school. He said, I'd kiss you goodbye, but your boyfriend is watching.

[00:11:48] Paris has to put on a wig and play the part of Romeo. Big fun. Uh, afterwards, Lorelai is complaining about Luke to Suki and she's like, he's clearly in love with you. Maybe that might be why he's having a hard time with the fact that you're willing to date literally anybody else except for him. So at the diner, she goes and she tells Luke that she doesn't have many people in her life that she can count on. And she hopes that Luke is one of those people.

[00:12:18] He says, you betcha I am. And that my friends was Gilmore Girls season two, episode nine. Run away little boy. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. You guys did it. How are the dogs? They're good. Richard and Emily quieted down. I think someone broke in, but they're good. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll break this episode down here on Gilmore the Merrier.

[00:12:49] Hi, everybody. Welcome. It's great to be back here talking about Gilmore Girls season two, episode nine. Let's break it down. Let's share our thoughts. We're going to start with a hot take. I'm going to start with you, Chad, the hottest taker. And you can take that however you want to. It could be that your hot takes are really good or that you're the best looking of the three of us. He's only said that to two other people and it's Brian and Panda. Those are the only two people he's ever said that about aside from you. That's great company. That's the Mount Rushmore of hot takes. It's company for sure. It's company. That's right. Think about it.

[00:13:19] It'll hit you different. Yeah, I was about to say, think about what I just said. All right. What'd you think? Season two, episode nine. Most of these episodes I've really enjoyed and I've really thought, wow, this is great. Well done. Well formulated this episode. Seriously. What is going on? This seemed like they jackhammered it in. It was completely non-contiguous with the other episodes or storylines. Little bits and pieces were, but they so clearly did this as a reaction to what was going on. I guess with Tristan leaving.

[00:13:49] It doesn't feel like it was filmed in the same year as the rest of these episodes. Yeah. Yes. So weird. So the whole thing almost seemed like a one off. Like they mistakenly put it in order here where it should have been four episodes earlier. Yeah. So super weird episode. No in buying talk at all. No me of the in owner. No Jess. Some max talk again after four episodes, no max talk. Tristan randomly comes out. There's one random Jess reference. That's it.

[00:14:15] The belated wedding gift that really should have been four episodes ago. A couple parts that did make sense. Like they give a reason why Tristan's no longer on the show. He sent to military school. And Lorelai finally being a little clearer with Luke that they do have feelings for each other in some way or another. But everything from Lorelai's date, the belated wedding gift, the Shakespeare thing. I'm not. I enjoyed it, but not my favorite episode at all.

[00:14:41] Really seem more just a reactionary episode to handle things that have changed than one that flowed naturally with the show. I don't disagree with the tank. That is why you're one of the hottest takers. But I like did it feel like a random episode. This was like we've I've talked. We've talked about this. This show randomly. The time just doesn't matter. That's right. And this is one of those episodes. Did I still have a blast with the episode? You betcha. I did.

[00:15:10] I really enjoyed this episode. All of the the Tristan showing up being a complete jerk. the. Oh, is he going to say it? Oh, my gosh. He said it in front of Dean. All of it was like there was a lot of fun. Did it make sense in the grand scheme of the season? No, not really. But I really enjoyed myself. So I'll take what I can get. Dano. Did you guys think I have a question. Did you think they made Tristan extra jerky on this episode?

[00:15:38] Because so we would when he's leaving be like, well, we don't like him and be better with him leaving. I have some thoughts. I mean, it's a great question. I have some thoughts into that shop and he literally throws it drops the flower on the ground and drops money at Tristan at Dean's feet. I was like, whoa. Yeah. Uppercutting him right there. Yeah. We've seen him be like a jerk. But like that was that was extra. Yeah. Yeah. And then him saying the kiss. Yeah. I won't I won't tell him and then looking right at his face and being like, this reminds me. Yeah. Yeah. That was a cool storyline. Yeah.

[00:16:08] But it made me miss Tristan. I think he could have done more of the show. I hear I don't disagree with this. Not feeling like it belongs in this group of episodes at all and feels like it's from a different time and place. It's pretty perfect episode of television, in my opinion. It is like elevated saved by the bell. The Romeo and Juliet stuff is very crazy. And who who's going to kiss? Who will they? Won't they really funny?

[00:16:35] Yeah, I'm going to say this now, and I'm not saying I'm out on Jess and I'm also not saying I just already can see the real that's coming here and I'm not just wishes he was Tristan. The way that Tristan successfully can have amazing chemistry with Rory and be actually not a good person in the ways that can be fixed, which I think is what they're going for with Jess. It's like he's not doing great things.

[00:17:04] He's a bad boy because of what's happened to him. The Chad Michael Murray, Alexis, but L chemistry is crazy good in my opinion, like unbelievable, good, unbelievably good in this episode. And I think the show's worse to not have Tristan around. I'm not giving up on Jess. I think Jess can be a great character. And I think we will at some point forget Tristan. This was clearly a Chad Michael Murray send off episode. It's clearly what it was.

[00:17:29] But man, he what what he's doing in this episode is great. And his chemistry with Rory is unbelievable. This episode went like gangbusters for me and made a lot more sense than some of the others. We also have the emerging of Melissa McCarthy as just a bonafide star that's starting to happen in this episode. And I think we're seeing that that might be why it was placed here is because she's starting

[00:17:55] to really come out of her shell as being not just the occasional one off laugh, but being the best actor on the show. Uh, we have a really fun time with this Romeo and Juliet thing. We have all of the players from stars hollow, basically all of the players from Chilton. No, Richard, no Emily, no Jess. Coincidentally, uh, that should, that would say, I know that sounds like I'm making a Luke though. Good bit of Luke. And I, you can't win them all, huh?

[00:18:23] Well, I don't mind Luke as a character if he's not a love interest of Lorelai, but this is clearly a love interest of Lorelai episode for him. I think it's supposed to be, but I think everyone's doing the legwork for him aside from him. Um, you could say they're, they're, uh, saying they'd lean on each other in a platonic sense too. Yes. Here's what I would say. Friend zone before brother. This guy's in a tough spot. I haven't, but I will say this.

[00:18:49] Uh, if you move slower than Ross Geller moves, you, you're the worst person. Like you, I don't, I don't feel for you. I'm not sorry for you. You see this woman every day. You have a deep connection with her. Say something, see something, say something, do something, make it known, shoot your shot. Like have some backbone of any kind. But Dan, it's hard. You saw this girl. Let's just listen.

[00:19:17] You saw this girl come into town. Absolutely. As a, as a young mom struggling, you saw all hands on deck. Absolutely. And then. No, no, that's a certain point. No, you're like, Oh, I have feelings. I don't want to. You belong with no one. And Luke, I say, you know, Dan, we're not all six foot four star athletes either. You know, we're so easy to just tell everyone, you know? Yeah.

[00:19:43] So, yeah, this guy clearly knows he has a connection with Lorelai and clearly has no stones to do something about it. It's hard. It isn't a hard for a decade brand. It's the harder, the longer you wait. Yeah. I think that's getting worse. Yeah. Maybe you should see a doctor. Yeah. You should. All right. Let's get to the fields. Go ahead, Chad. There's a lot of fields going on in this episode.

[00:20:13] None that have anything to do with the Gilmore episode. Okay. So where are we? Favorite line. Right. This is great. I love the Miss Patty character, by the way. And I saw her in a clip. I'm like, I think I mentioned from an old episode, like a sitcom that never took off with Steve Carell. And she was in it too, which is really cool. Anyway, she has a nonverbal line. That was my favorite line. She is. Well, she's sort of verbal. She's taking them through a meditation. Breathe in. And she has her 1920 style cigarette and takes a drag in.

[00:20:43] Every time she says breathe in. And every time she says breathe out, she exhales as they're meditating. I literally. She's out. She's out the like on the stoop of the place. And she's like, yeah, breathe in, breathe out. I thought that was really funny. Yeah. Rory sees Lorelai's younger date. And then so, you know, Lorelai dates this younger guy. Rory sees him and goes, wow, mom, I always wanted a younger brother. So funny. I thought that was really funny line as well.

[00:21:11] And the one last thing, which is so great. You have to pay attention to the show and know the show to get the line. The caveman was talking during the Shakespeare play grunting and monosyllabic. And Lorelai goes, boy, I wish Luke was here to interpret this. So funny. That was so great. Three really good lines. I was very impressed with how they made the dude that goes out with Lorelai look older than you. Like with the suit on that guy. He asked her out. I didn't think I was like, maybe he's a little bit younger, but I just thought, oh, this

[00:21:40] is Lorelai's chance to like get back out there and like date again. I didn't know the bit was going to be. He's 20 or whatever. Really funny. Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So the line that made me chuckle was the conversation that she was having with Suki. And she says, like, it was a good night. Like I said, then they go back and forth about stealing his burrito and it turns into an innuendo and it's all very funny. Very funny stuff. Really liked it.

[00:22:07] I will say I was bummed because we got as much of the caveman interpretation of Romeo and Juliet as we did with Paris playing Romeo, which is prime for comedy. And we just didn't get a lot of it. I was so like when she comes in and she's dressed up as Romeo, she's like, let's go. We got to do this thing. And then we only get one short line. I was like, this is going to be so funny. And it was disappointed by how short that was because it would have been so good to see. That would have been good. Yeah.

[00:22:36] I have three feels if you'll grant me the time. I'll try to go quick. The first is a line. Uh, Lorelai says, have you seen my bag of beads and fur? It looks like Stalin's head of all of the looks like references in this show. The most unnecessary doesn't help you imagine that anymore, but I was so here for it. Why do you need that? It's Stalin's not the only person that wore a hat like that in Russia guys. Like he's just like, yeah, I was dying to see the bag.

[00:23:02] Um, but two actual fields, the role play where Lori, Lorelai acts like Dean and has Rory tell her about the kiss. I was completely expecting what happens in all of these TV shows, which is like a bit where she does a funny voice and then gives bad advice. And you should be honest. Instead we get Lorelai playing it out correctly as to why Rory should not tell Dean this information. And it was like really great parenting. And I didn't see it coming.

[00:23:30] But the last one is great acting too. Just to touch on that, that she went so far. You're like, you start to really believe she was a Luke. Yeah, it was great. It was perfect. Um, and last but certainly not least, we have a Melissa McCarthy problem in this show. Now between last week's episode and this week's episode, it is so very abundantly clear that she's a star, right? Like she is not a sidekick. She is not comic relief. She has the entire spectrum of emotions.

[00:23:59] She can fight with Lorelai. She can do silly quirky stuff. She can deliver lines at the speed of Amy Sherman Palladino's writing, and she can do it all with such a plum and such just this air of ease. She's just unbelievable. And this show now it's a problem because she on the best day is like five on the call sheet. And I know that bridesmaids hasn't happened yet, and they're probably going to get to keep her as a best kept secret for a while. And this isn't a written in the stars hollow.

[00:24:28] I just to watch her come into her own on this show and to be more than just a smile. She's so, so good and so funny in this episode and really good in the in episode eight that it's like she should really be one of the three main characters in this show. Like she should be in every episode. She should be getting borderline equal screen time. She's crushing it. And I know she's not going to be able to do that, but very, very impressed with what she's doing right now in this show. Let's take a break. We'll come back.

[00:24:57] We'll get to the way what and the written in the stars hollow here on Gilmore the Merrier. Welcome back, everybody. Gilmore Girls season two, episode nine is what we're talking about today. It's time for the way what is where we talk about one of this episode minutes ago. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? I'll start with you, Chad. Wait, what? Okay. He, uh, you referenced it during the Shakespeare one. One of the they're supposed to interpret Shakespeare.

[00:25:26] They're supposed to be a different type. Yes. Yes. So one group does the cave people. Fantastic. One does Shakespeare vis a vis like a cell phone battle, which I thought was really interesting. And then, uh, Paris is grouped to Shakespeare as Shakespeare. Yeah. I couldn't believe that this was the biggest leap of logic in this whole episode. A great assignment by the English teacher to go interpret Shakespeare. One act of Shakespeare of Romeo and Juliet told in a way that's different.

[00:25:55] Put your own twist on it. And Paris miss all world academia is like, can't beat the original. We're going to stick with it. What in the world? Real bad. I would have loved to see literally them do it any other way than that. Uh, you guys have done, you guys can think of some good. I mean, this is right around the time. Boz Lerman's Romeo and Juliet came out, which is a very unique take on Romeo and Juliet, which is probably why I bet you that came out in 96, 97, right? Boz Lerman's.

[00:26:25] I have no idea. Do you not know what I'm talking about? I thought Shakespeare wrote it, not Boz Lerman. It's Boz Shakespeare. I got it right. Uh, uh, 96 was, uh, uh, that's Leonardo DiCaprio in Romeo and Juliet. I mean, you could do all kinds of something. Uh, it's, it's, it's kind of updated with guns and stuff like, yeah, it's, it's an update. Get your knife out of here. Yeah. So I, I think that that was the emphasis for this. And I also think that it was just lazy for them to be like, we're going to do it original anyway.

[00:26:54] Like that's like Paris. This whole thing is, is I have to get an A on this. The only way to get an A is do an original. Well, very specifically the teacher said you can't like to do it a different way. You will want, will not get an A if you do it originally. Right. That's I thought. So she did a terrible job. She just did exactly how the play is supposed to be done. I was a big oversight. I thought so that for me was a huge weight. And I thought the, uh, the other one, the two ideas, the caveman and the cell phone fight, I thought was fantastic. That was great.

[00:27:22] Um, so speaking of at Bramble Fest, I think it's a good time to announce. We are going to be doing a scene from Hamlet. The three of us, it's going to be great. It's a competition. We're going to do it in the style of suggestion from the audience. Oh, we're going to do it in the style of the beach boys. Yeah. That's crazy. We're going to be doing it in the style of the beach boys. Yeah. We're going to do a little, um, you know, it's going to be like a synthesizer. There's going to be a different, uh, harmonizing. It's going to be fun. Yeah. I don't do this sounds. Yeah.

[00:27:51] To surf for chance to dream. I think it's very nice. Anything else to wave or not to wave? I think I've said it all. There you go. I have one more. There was a waiter at Luke's. Yeah. In the back. Just walks across the screen with a, with an apron and a name tag on. And I was like, what are you guys doing? What are you? What's happening right now? Why? It's a busy season. Busy season. Yeah. Never referenced. Never seen before or after just walks by it. It was very interesting. I was a wait. What for me? Yeah. Right. It's true.

[00:28:22] Um, uh, yeah, I, I did write down. I don't like it. Chilton does not strike me as the school in the early two thousands doing fun group projects. No, like, no, absolutely not. This was a very like fun way to make the Shakespeare come to life. And Chilton does not strike me as that school. Uh, but good to see, you know? Yeah. Um, but it was interesting to see that they perform it in front of a crowd of standing room only. It wasn't standing room only.

[00:28:52] There were no chairs. There's no, yes. They decide to perform all of these one act plays in a place that should have chairs in it. And there are no chairs there. Why'd they do that? Standing room only. That's what it was. There's only, we're only standing here. So to make it as hard to see as possible. Standing room only implies it was packed, right? And then we only had room to stand. There was plenty of room for everyone to sit down. Yeah. Plenty of room. More than standing room.

[00:29:18] Maybe they didn't have enough extras to make it look full with chairs. And so they just said, let's just do standing. We can trick people more. I don't know. Um, Paris says they have to go to miss Patty's, right? Because the grand hall had been taken over by two other groups practicing. Yeah. But Paris says that she called and reserved the grand hall and double checked. She called up twice to make sure that it was good. And yet somehow there's two groups in there.

[00:29:48] I think her reserving it and calling in twice trumps them. Trumps them. Like they should be able to go and Paris would do this. Paris would go and be like, well, I have the documentation. Like it was very weird for her to just roll over and call a lot of hoops. So we have to jump through to get to get the stars. All right. Um, and then I did get a kick out of, uh, towards the end at the end, they get into Luke's and Lorelai's like, you guys go pick a table.

[00:30:13] And it's, it's her Rory Dean and Suki for people. And they picked the table with three chairs. Yeah. So when Lorelai comes back, she's gonna, she's gonna have to figure out what to do there. Dano. Yeah. Most of mine, I think you guys have covered. I have one big one though, and this just could be teaching P PTSD. Imagine you're a teacher and then you've given a group project. And here's the thing about teachers is they do a lot of work and they plan.

[00:30:41] They don't just hand out group projects and, and, and just usually there should be, if you're a professional teacher, some sort of structure, rhyme or reason as to how you group the kids in your class. Chop. The groups are done. Everybody's got their groups. They're planning. Chad, Michael Murray, Tristan strolls in, sits down and then says this line.

[00:31:05] The professor forgot to include me in a group and then told me to pick one. I'm sorry. What? First of all, any teacher worth anything is going to assign everyone a group, even those not in class that day. You just do it. You don't do this thing. You do it. And you tell the kids get in contact with that person. They're out today, email and text and whatever you got to do.

[00:31:32] This professor forgot Tristan, just forgot him. And then when he shows up, this professor's like, uh, pick whatever group you want. Pick whatever group you want to be in and go be in it. I found that impossible to believe, uh, that this was actually happening. That Chad, Michael Murray just gets to pick whatever one at Chilton of all places. And not to, not to mention the group project, which, you know, they take up a good bit of time. That's right.

[00:32:02] Yes. She, for some reason has chosen to have the performances be after school. That's right. At night time. I'm going to have to come back in to grade these suckers. I love what we got to in this episode, the hoops that we have to jump through this teacher, not knowing group project and then doing a nighttime performance to grade with only standing areas, no seating Paris, not having any place in all of Hartford to meet. And they have to go to stars hollow. Yeah. Tristan choosing his group.

[00:32:32] A lot of things we got to kind of, but we did find out there's a miss patties.net, which I appreciate. Have you guys been to it? Have you checked it out? It directs you right to Bramble jam plus. It's pretty good. 45 December 45. I'll say this. Uh, this is very similar to the puffs episode from a few weeks ago where it's like, it's so dumb, but it works. It all works together. I think this works better than the puffs. Yeah. For sure. Anything else? That's it. Uh, except for running the stars hollow. It's where we talk about anything else we want to address with class. Uh, chat.

[00:33:02] I do want to say, because we're talking about the 45 and 45 days. One of the benefits of joining Bramble jam plus is the chat, the live chat. You get to watch your shows. Is there anything going on in the chat that's worth mentioning? Well, Gina said that the 96 Romeo and Juliet is the best version of Romeo and Juliet, and she'll fight everyone on that. So I guess she's never seen the 15 96 one. In Stratford upon Avon. That was a banger in Stratford live. You were there. One of my ancestors wasn't gone down. That's right. Yes.

[00:33:30] Oral tradition has passed along the cousins family, the review of Shakespeare. Shakespeare in there. Uh, I mean, I guess we'll have to fight on that because I don't like Baz Luhrmann, but I, of the Baz Luhrmann movies, all of which I virtually despise the road. His Romeo and Juliet is my favorite. One of his movies. I think.

[00:33:54] See the Elvis guy, Elvis, Moulin Rouge, Australia, just a bevy of movies that just can't sit still for cameras for any, like they just are all more like a Bozzy. Well, you got used to it. He's a busy Bozzy. He's a busy Bozzy. He's a busy Bozzy. He's a busy Bozzy. That's right. So what's your written in the stars hollow? What's the chat says in the late nineties, we did a scene of Midsummer Night's Dream for my AP English class. We did it as Austin Powers. Oh, that's good.

[00:34:23] Austin Powers doing that play could get a little inappropriate for school, I would say, but yeah, good for you guys. Uh, Holly says that the vinegar worked in her drain. So her sink is draining. Oh, wow. That's shout out. There's also going to be vinegar possibly in the founder's day punch. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Like, like this segment, it's a catch all. That's exactly right. Yeah. 100%. Um, I do have another written in stars hollow. It doesn't matter. Whatever. Are we all written in stars hollow? Yeah, we are. Okay. Right. Here we go.

[00:34:53] Uh, okay. That one. Oh, maybe I didn't have many. Uh, cause I can't read these notes again. I wish you guys were here to read it. I hear of a logs. When do we meet? Okay. Uh, I think I'm saying, Oh, Logan. I hear Logan. When do we meet Logan? Every episode I'm waiting. And I don't know where he is. Also, this is what I will say to you friend. Cause I don't want you starting every episode on pins and needles. Right. Uh, it's going to be a while brother. Oh, really?

[00:35:23] Okay. We've got a journey where I got a journey ahead of us. Keep in mind, we just said goodbye to Tristan, but we've just recently said hello to Jess. Right? So just enjoy the journey. Just don't, don't get too antsy. Okay. I like that. Okay. Uh, two other ones. So begs the eternal question. Will Max Medina and cousin rune reappear? That's my other stars hollow. Of course. He's the rune out there. This guy. Yeah. I, I do want to know my written, the stars hollow is just this episode.

[00:35:54] Uh, what, how did it happen? Like this is clear. It did seem like a, Hey, we, we had plans for Chad. The universe had other plans for Chad. He's willing to give us one episode. Like we can do one episode is like, write them off. Yeah. Like, okay, great. Where should we put that in the season? Right. No, right here. Right. It should have three episodes ago would have made perfect sense. So maybe they're negotiating with cousin Chad, Michael Murray.

[00:36:25] Apparently somebody in the chat said he took a pilot and then the pilot didn't work out. I don't know if that has anything to do with this or not. It was very, it definitely like even the bringing a, when they brought back up Max, I was surprised. Cause it's like, it does make sense that you would be engaged to somebody and then it would randomly correct up. Right. Like that makes sense. But as a viewer, it had just been so long since I had even thought of Max Medina. And in real time is a month past probably since they mentioned it. Right. Something like that. Yeah.

[00:36:55] So mine is also Chad, Michael Murray related. Is this show just prescient and like telling the future? They said Chad, Michael Murray says he's not going to be back on the program anymore because he's being sent to a military school in North Carolina. Well, a year and a half later, Chad, Michael Murray will star in one tree hill, which films right outside of Wilmington, North Carolina.

[00:37:19] So he does find himself in North Carolina for basically a decade after this, which is wild that this, but the date of this is way earlier than that show in the military. I don't think he's a basketball player in high school. Right. Like he's a high, just a high school dude. So, but there's a while between this and one tree hill starting a year and a half the next year. So you said a year and a half. Yeah, this is, this, uh, airs November of a one.

[00:37:45] And then the one tree hill is starts in like September of 2003, but it's filmed way earlier. Yes. But he could have been filming it around the same time. Actually. I still have a long gap for this guy, a whole season of TV. Right. Um, but you know, and somebody said he was on Dawson's Creek around this time. So maybe that's it. I don't know. Yeah. Also in the Wilmington area, from what I understand, cool area. I'd like to check it out. So maybe he was going to North Carolina. They just threw it in there. There you have.

[00:38:13] This says the, uh, original one tree hill series officially began filming in spring or summer of Oh three. Yeah. So that would have been too late. That's what I'm saying. So a year and a half. November premiered September of Oh three. Yeah. Also a great time to announce a one tree hill, the merrier starting, um, in September, the one tree hill boys, the, uh, the, yeah, we'll get there. Tree house. One, two, tree boys. Yes. One, two, tree boys. Welcome to the tree house.

[00:38:41] Should we ditch this and do one tree hill? Welcome to the tree house. I bet we can. Anything similar. Michael Murray. We should just follow. How about Chad, Michael, the merrier. That could be the name of it. We covered all this stuff. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Uh, three, tree hills. We're all tree. We're all trees. And we're all the hill. Oh, we never want to congratulate you. One, three, one, three hills. We'll get there. We'll figure it out. Yeah. One tree hill. We are going to be back next week. Uh, with episode 10. Wow. Of season two.

[00:39:12] You guys remember when we did, uh, two episodes a week? We were so stupid. Season one. That was so dumb. That was a mistake. We visit those. Give it away. All right, Kelly. Can you imagine last week's episode, how long that synopsis was with this one paired together? Oh my gosh. We'd still be on it. We'd still be synopsizing. Uh, we sure would. Um, all right, we'll be back next time on another one. Come on back for that. Until then. Keep Gilmore-ing and be merry. Gilmore the Merrier of Bramble Jam podcast produced by Brandon Gray. And yeah, that Greenville, South Carolina.

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