Gilmore Girls - Season 3 Episode 3 - Application Anxiety

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[00:02:01] That works site-wide, which is pretty exciting. And I've got to ask you the hot, hard-hitting question, Chad. After the marathon. How are you recovering? Are you cringled out? We ate so many cringles. You devoured multiple on your own. Well, what I did, first of all, I jogged home. So my car is still there in your lot, but I felt good about that. I got that car. Okay. We got that one towed, but we'll get it. Did you know I had the same car that Dean made Rory? I thought that was cool.

[00:02:31] Nobody even brought it up. I'm sorry. The marathon was fantastic. The cringles kept me going all night. You know, it's like lifeblood for me. Yeah, it was great. I can't wait. I think we should do another one next month. It's like lifeblood for Chad, the cringles. Lifeblood. Lifeblood. Lifeblood. Lifeblood. Lifeblood. Lifeblood. Like I just, you know.

[00:03:01] I think when the, when word gets to the government's office and the governor's office even, and like the word is like, for some reason, there's so many cringles getting mailed to South Carolina. What's going on? Maybe we should make it the official state pastry. Yeah. With the, for sure. That and the brand statue in the park. I'll tell you, there was a, my kids had a birthday cake kringle, which the, you know,

[00:03:27] most of these, the inside has like a filling, like a toaster strudel kind of thing, but way better. The birthday cake kringle, the inside is cake. Really? It's a very different texture than the rest of these. Like it, it really is like not eating a kringle at all. Very, very different. So if you're ordering a bundle of kringle with the code that we gave you, throw a birthday cake one in there. Cause that way when you feel like you need a break from kringle, you have a kringle. A birthday cake kringle. That's exactly right. Yes. It's easy until it's a birthday. Yeah. You can cut it up and save it for multiple birthdays.

[00:03:57] That's the fun of them. I will also say though, uh, I joke about needing a break from kringle. I've never needed one. Never. Not once. It is an interesting thing. Cause a lot of times I eat something a lot and I'm like, I could take a break. Not with kringle. No, no way. I'm looking at it right now. The thing that's tough is, is we put, I'll get six, you know, and I put them in the freezer. And so it's always like you forget for a couple of days and then you remember, and then you pop one out. It's a party every time. We had a couple of extras in our freezer as well.

[00:04:26] And my son has been devouring them and they are disappearing. And it's wild. He's a growing boy, Chad. He is. But I go to grab the flavor I wanted to try and there'll be like a little nub of a piece in like one of the drawers in the fridge. So he and his buddies are tearing them up. So it's fun. Of course. You got it. All right. Let's talk about episode three of season three. Does that sound like a plan to everybody? I love it. This one is called application anxiety. Sometimes they title the episodes exactly. What is it called again? Application anxiety. Got it.

[00:04:54] So sometimes they title it and you're like, what's that? You know exactly what's happening. And then sometimes it's really on the nose. And this is one of those ones. This one is, it aired October 8th, 2002. It's something I'm trying when it comes to years 2002. This year that this came out, it went a little something like this. Rory's Harvard application arrives in the mail. It's a big day. It's time to apply for college. Lane is over.

[00:05:24] She wants to join a band and she's going to use the Gilmore residence as her office, basically. Oh, Lane's still here? Lane is here on the show. It's crazy. Buckle up. Okay. Whatever you say. So it's 50 episodes in the lane storylines about the hot and heavy. Okay. Um, at Luke's Luke sees Taylor taking pictures of the building. What's Taylor up to school?

[00:05:49] Paris and Rory have put together a panel to help seniors that are applying for colleges. And all of the answers from said panel are making Rory overthink everything that she's going to put in her application. So she meets up with her mom and, uh, at, at Emily's and is in a full freak out mode after this panel. The next day people start showing up at Luke's asking for drinks that he doesn't nor has he ever served in his life.

[00:06:19] And it becomes clear that those people are being sent by Taylor. He confronts Taylor who tells him that he wants to open a soda shop in the space next to Luke's, which Luke owns. Luke says, absolutely not for the rest of time. You will not open this soda shop. Lorelai gets a phone number from headmaster, headmaster Charles, Charles from a Harvard graduate.

[00:06:45] So that Rory could pick their brain and help ease her application anxiety. That's the name of the episode. And they go over and they're excited to talk to this family. It's going well until the topic of their own daughter comes up and they awkwardly just say she's following her own path. Um, also the family is just incredibly weird. They're just constantly quizzing each other all the time. Rory goes to use the restroom and she meets their other daughter Carol,

[00:07:14] who isn't shooting up heroin in the alley like their parents made it sound. In fact, she's just working multiple jobs. She's a furry. That's right. She does dress in a body costume, but that's one of her many jobs. She just didn't want to go to college. She's very anti doing what her parents want. And this just helps Rory be really thankful for her mom, who knows that regardless of what happens, she's going to be proud of her.

[00:07:43] The Gilmore girls make it back in time for the town meeting. And it's a heated one. Thanks to the soda shop situation, the SSS. But when, but when Luke finds out that Lorelai and Rory like the idea of the soda shop, he softens to the idea. What a guy. Of course he does. He's Luke. Afterwards, a guy named Dave Rogowski shows up and wants to talk to Lane about his bands. We'll see what happens. Adam Brody. The Adam Brody. That's exactly right.

[00:08:13] That's exactly right. Um, Dean finds Rory and he starts asking questions about what happens when she goes off to college. What's going to happen between the two of them? It doesn't go great. Jackson asked Lorelai if he can rent Rory's room when she leaves because you're not going to need it anymore. So things for both of them begin to start getting really serious when it comes to her leaving for college. So the next day, the Harvard guy calls and tells Rory to pack her bags.

[00:08:41] He's going to give her a big recommendation to the Harvard brass. But Rory and Lorelai don't seem overly thrilled by this. And they decide to cancel all their plans that day and just hang out just the two of them. And that, my friends, was Gilmore Girls season three, episode three, and application anxiety. We did it. We did do it. Let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll break this episode down here on Gilmore the Marrier.

[00:09:15] Did by Kringle. Kringle. Kringle. Kringle. I'm Kenny. And how are we doing today? I mean, season three has been a lot of fun so far. Out of the first three, this is a very interesting episode, a fun episode. I don't love it as much as the first two, actually.

[00:09:45] We're dealing with the Springsteins The daughter I thought was going to be like a real, you know, horror or something. And she was just fine doing her own thing. So that was all interesting.

[00:10:14] I was happy to see Lane come back because I was wondering what happened to her if she was like totally off the show. And it seems like maybe we're building. Shut up! She's had like no storyline for Dan and I to see. All right. I'll say this. If you don't like Lane more by the end of this season, then I will allow you to say that you want her out of the show. This is a character they have nothing to do with and they're going to find something like she gets really sick. Like that's what's going to happen. She's not going to get really sick.

[00:10:44] Something like unfortunately manipulative. That's what's going to happen. No. Okay. It's not. Great. Deal. She's just going to be an awesome character. If you say so. I can't wait. I like to take your word for it. The band storyline that's working out. She's meeting these people. This seems pretty cool. So we'll see. You want them to kill her. I would. If Lane and Rune shared a fate, it wouldn't bother me a bit. Rune's coming back soon. It's going to be big. I know it. I just know. He's with this. He's the Springsteen's family's murderer probably.

[00:11:14] He's their hitman. It's my guess. There were scenes with Luke and Taylor, which is always a 10 out of 10. But the main thing for me this episode that I finally like seeing. Dean, we get a little bit of more of a dynamic character here. He's not, like I said, as insipid as the earlier episodes where he was just a shell of his former self. And he's actually realistic and going, hey, Rory, what happens when you go to college? It's so funny because I'm talking. You guys are just housing Kringles in the background. What? No. I can't blame you. I can't blame you. I want to, too.

[00:11:42] Nothing goes better with the dulcet tones of one Chad cousin than a Kringle from Kringle. That's right. That's true. We're all waiting for the other person's turn so we could eat our thing. That's what the show is right now. But anyway, Dean coming back and being realistic and asking Rory, what happens? What do we do when you leave for college? I like that. Finally, some growth again for that character. So hot take. Always good episodes. They're all good. Some better than others. But overall, a very good one. Now my turn to eat. Yeah, very good. I like this episode.

[00:12:11] This episode is probably, I think of it higher than it actually is because I think of it as a better episode than it actually is. So you think it's better than it actually is? That's right. Okay. The Luke Taylor stuff is carrying a lot of weight in this episode. Yeah, it is. It's perfect. Perfect. From Luke seeing him take the picture out the window to the very end with the town meeting.

[00:12:41] It's perfect. I absolutely love it. And it's amazing. Everything else, like the stuff with the Springsteens is just whatever. And the episode, Gilmore Girls does this thing sometimes where they short circuit something just to get a nice little thing at the end.

[00:13:04] So what they do in this episode is at the same time, simultaneously, Rory and Lorelai are both realizing that Rory is going to leave home. This realization happens for both of them simultaneously. Simplaneously. And it does lead to a very nice thing at the end where, you know what, let's just not do anything and let's just hang out together. It doesn't matter what we do. We can just be together. And that's nice.

[00:13:31] Like, obviously, that's what you hope that you have one day with your own kid. Like, that you can just have a day with your kid and hang out and have fun together. They appreciate you. And you know what? And one day you'll just be, I want to just sit down with my teenage son and eat Kringle and tell him that I love him. And all that stuff. And then that'd be. But like, the way that it happens, it's so, it happens so fast.

[00:13:58] Like, both of them literally at the same time, these conversations happen where they have this realization. And it's just like, all right, doing that thing again that they do every once in a while. So that was whatever. So overall, a whatever episode with an absolute banger of a storyline between Luke and Taylor, which completely saves the episode. And a town hall meeting. Yeah, I wrote down the town hall meeting really saves this episode.

[00:14:22] And before that town hall meeting, which is one of the last scenes that we see, this episode's kind of a snoozer for me. The two things that are my least favorite ongoing plot lines in this series are Rory's pursuit of Harvard and Lane Kim plays music. Those two things are, I don't care. That should be a line to me. And I know that Rory College is going to be all year. And that's fine. As long as it's weaved in with other stuff, that's fine. But it's realistic, too.

[00:14:51] That should be a line or two here or there. You know, Lane want to join a band and all the messages being left. I'm fine with that. Like, that should be kind of it. Now, Adam Brody, always a welcome sight on your TV screen. He's a great actor. He's really funny. This is pre-OC Adam Brody. So very young, very green. Cool to see him. But I didn't really have a lot of stakes in this. This wasn't, this didn't hit the note that I love most about Gilmore Girls, which is we're all in Stars Hollow.

[00:15:20] There's a bunch of pretty crazy characters here. There's a weird festival going on. Something's going on at the end. Something's going on in the park. Something's going on at Luke's. And Lorelai and Rory are in the middle of it. Those are my favorite episodes. If we're just going to have Rory stressed about college and Lane trying to be a part of a band, that doesn't really move the needle for me at all. Almost no Emily in this episode, though. That's true.

[00:15:41] But the town hall at the end, just peak television, great television, saved the episode from being maybe like least favorite category to just like an okay. But they are totally underusing Miss Patty. She was there and she really made an appearance. She's such a great character. I wish we get some more Miss Patty. But anyway. All right. Let's get to all the feels where we talk about line or moment in this episode that gave us feels. Let's start with you, Chad. I have two quick feels.

[00:16:11] A lot of people are going to say why because you just looked out your window and saw people heading to the beach with surfboards. Maybe the waves got good. A lot of people are going to accuse me of that, but it's not the case. You throw a Kringle in one hand and a surfboard in the other, you got yourself a party. A lot of people say that you can't take Kringle to the beach, but I believe you can. After, when you're all hungry from surfing, still a little salty. Oh, it's great. It's nice. Salted caramel. You just need a caramel Kringle in a salty hand. It works. Salty caramel is a flavor, though. It's excellent. So, you know, you can do that, too. It is.

[00:16:41] So, besides the waves getting good, which is a nice feel for me. Okay. The creepy feels, obviously. Those Springsteen siblings. First of all, I thought they were like dating, but then I guess their siblings. They were like, it really was. Because I think when getting horror movie feels from them is like, seems very weird. What I love, I mean, I don't care about that plot line, and I think that's the problem. But to your point, you think that the other daughter is going to be a horror movie, and

[00:17:07] what they do is, is they tell you, no, everybody downstairs in the living room is the horror movie. Right. This idea that the importance they've placed on this level of meaningless intelligence, that's what's really the danger. I thought it was really great. I thought it was really great, but, and they did a really good job of making them be very creepy, silly, for sure. I just don't care about that plot line that much. I would have liked it, because I feel like you get to the same lesson if the family actually

[00:17:35] is crazy, like crazy killers or something, like doesn't want them to leave or something like that. And you realize, oh, when you're constantly thinking about only college, it's not good for you. You need a life outside. She could have learned that lesson without the sister upstairs, and we actually lean into the horror that is downstairs. I think I would have liked that more and had more fun with it, because at the end, we're

[00:18:00] just left with, they're just a family that's overly competitive and quizzes each other all the time, and that's weird. But like, the siblings are absolutely in a horror movie. They are the twins in the shining. Like, they are that. And so I would have liked that to be the means to the end of her realizing, like, oh, this isn't everything, and my mom's going to be proud of me no matter what. Right, just from the siblings. Yes. Right, you didn't need the other weird furry girl. Yeah.

[00:18:29] And yeah, that was a... Again, she's not a furry, Chad. It's just a job. That's right. It's just a job. I think she wears it after for fun, too, but that's fine. You and Hexa. So anyway, besides that, kids going off to college feels, that's hard. I've done it. I've done it. And all of a sudden, you're like, oh my gosh, the end of this year, my boy, for me, it was my son. You're like, I've raised him. He's there every night in my house. All of a sudden, he's not... I can't even talk about it right now, guys. I'm getting choked up.

[00:18:58] These are some feels. I will say, though, the one good thing is the Kringle you'll have left over. Well, yeah. That's true. With your boy and his friends not poking around all the time. There is that. My kids wanted to watch Zombies 3, the alien one. Absolutely. And they graduate at the end. Spoiler alert. I know. And you see Zed in his cap and gown, and my kid's watching it, and I'm sitting there, and he goes, that's going to be me one day. Oh, my God.

[00:19:27] And I was just like, I got to go to the bathroom. Excuse me. Did you guys hear that beep? I got to go. I got to blip. That's why I heard you yell, no, it won't. I didn't know what the context was. So now it's good to know. It was brutal just to hear out loud. Just to think about it. And your kids are much younger. I know. It's crazy. Yeah. So those are the feels. It's a personal one for me, for sure. Yeah. Obviously, the entire town meeting is perfect. You're going to do mine, too. I know already. No, I'm ready.

[00:19:57] I'm so excited to talk about this. Go ahead. Okay. I don't know if it is the same. We'll find out. Kirk? No. Oh, great. So Kirk rolls out this diorama, right? And it has a sheet over top of it. And Taylor's like, I told you to put something decorative over top of it. And he says his mom said he couldn't have any of the tablecloths. So I had to use a sheet for my hamper.

[00:20:23] And for less than a second, it cuts to Lorelai just going, and it's just perfect. It's a fridge. And Kirk, once again, remains undefeated. And that editing choice was fantastic. Dan? There's a great moment in one of my favorite movies of all time. This is Spinal Tap, where they sing a song called Stonehenge. And they've, instead of drawing feet, they drew a diagram of a stonehenge they want delivered to the stadium. And instead of feet, they put two marks for inches. And so they're supposed to lower this giant stonehenge onto the stage.

[00:20:53] And it's like maybe knee high. Like it's very, very, it's supposed to be like 36 feet. And it's 36 inches. And like, they're all really mad. Imagine my shock and delight when Kirk unveils this diorama and the horse is bigger than the store. These people could walk, like Babette talking about how giant the horse is and the people could walk underneath the horse. Just perfect. Just perfect. The horse is bigger than the storefront.

[00:21:23] It was so funny. I just loved every second of it. Until that town hall happened, it was my first like real snoozer of an episode. Of Gilmore Girls, maybe ever. And that town hall, the horse, the whole thing, perfect. Just perfect. Did you see the horse? Because I did too, that it was too big. And you're like hoping someone's going to call it out, right? Yeah, I saw it. I was like, oh my God, that horse is ginormous. Fantastic. Yeah. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll get to The Way What and The Written in the Stars Hollow here on Gilmore the Marriott. La la la la.

[00:21:54] La la la la. As we go. All the times we had together. If you want, Chad, for us to come to your boys' graduation. We can. Yeah. We'll come and we'll sing that right behind you. We'll do the whole thing. We'll bring the Kringle. That's right. Yeah, there'll be a whole photography crew there. Everything. Yeah. You know what they say? You bring Kringle to a graduation. And it becomes a weekend. It becomes a weekend.

[00:22:23] And the students aren't the only people graduating that day. That's right. I don't understand. I don't know what that means. That's right. It's like everyone's graduating. I understand what you mean. It's like getting a degree. Oh, that really makes it all make sense. Everyone's graduating. Kringle just dropped this. Oh, no. They just dropped this. Everyone's graduating with promo code DTHOCT26. They graduated right off the sponsorship is what happens right there. Oh, my gosh. Everyone's graduating.

[00:22:53] Come graduate with us. Yeah. Kringle.com. All right. Wait, what? What we're talking about now? Chad, anything in this episode where you go, wait, what that you can read? Yeah, I have three here. Okay. First of all, there's a scene where Rory and Lorelai are just on the couch chilling, talking. The mailman just walks in and delivers their mail, like opens the door, drops it off, and they're totally okay with it. For me, wait, what? Don't just walk into my house unannounced whenever you decide to drop off the mail.

[00:23:21] I thought that was very strange, even for this town. The town meeting's taking place at Miss Patty's. Did we know that? I never realized it was Miss Patty's. I didn't know that. Until just this moment. Okay. Maybe I knew that because of the show. Yeah. Because of the show. You'll graduate. Everybody will graduate. If you graduate, you get a degree. Under the Kringle is a diploma. Honestly, the Kringle University is more valuable than your diploma.

[00:23:49] If someone will give me an honorary Kringle doctorate, I'll come speak. Twist my arm. Didn't you guys go to Racine and tour the tour in Jordan? No, we've been there. We met Teresa who iced every Kringle by hand. I hope she's the best. We should find out. How's her carpal tunnel do? I don't know. She was wonderful at the time. That was seven years ago, though. So we don't know. Okay. Wow. Awesome. Okay. So, yeah. I'd like to go. Let's go over there. One last thing. They do a quiz, which is supposed to show knowledge.

[00:24:19] The family, the Springsteens. They go around the table quizzing. But all it is, is rote memorization. Not a sign of critical thinking or intellect. It's like, did you remember this fact or not? And I was like, for such a smart family, it was not an impressive quiz. That would have been something, if that family was really that family, that would have been something they did when the kids were in like fourth grade. Exactly. Right. Like one of the different eras, like Mesozoic and all that. Like that would have been just like any, any kid who's like gifted and talented in memorizing. That would have been the game.

[00:24:49] That's not what was going, like I just, it was not what they thought it was when they wrote it, which is, this is the version of life you don't want as a picture. That's what they thought they were doing is juxtaposing the daughter upstairs with what's going on here. But instead it made them look stupid. I agree 100%. It makes them look like they're not really educating overachieving kids because that's information that like my kid loves dinosaurs.

[00:25:17] He can tell me more about dinosaurs than I've ever known in my entire life. He's in fourth grade. He can absolutely, if you ask him for some dinosaur, Ray, give me some dinosaur facts. Get buckle up and grab a Kringle. Graduate from dinosaur university. That's taught by my child. You've lost it. It's not, it's not, it's not how you impress a guest when your children are at Harvard or are seniors in high school. It's just not how you do it. Yeah. It was weird. Yeah. And it wasn't any critical thinking. I was very impressed. That stood out to me.

[00:25:49] These kids, this is phenomenal. They know everything. They know everything. It was amazing. Um, you know, at the, at the end of the, uh, the town meeting, they all go outside and I saw this like wooden contraption back there with like stuff inside. I'm like, what is this? And it's a coffee stand that is out there for people to drink coffee. And I, what, who's manning this? What is it?

[00:26:18] Cause Luke, to me, Luke's coffee. Luke is coffee. Yeah. God, right. And Luke, it's his diner. The diner is right over there. You could throw a rock at it from patties and like, but somebody has set up an outdoor coffee stands. And I just don't know who or why they would do that when Luke's is right over there.

[00:26:42] And it was like a very, like, it looked like an old antique wooden dresser of sorts. It was weird. And I've never noticed it before. Now I'm like, is this at every town hall meeting? What are you going to say? I know what's really interesting. Jess, this is true. On Saturday, I was walking our little downtown here and there was an outdoor coffee cart outdoors similar to this. And they actually had one of the lattes was called the Ooi with the poodles already. Wow. I took a picture. I meant to send it to you guys when I was walking around.

[00:27:11] So obviously they were inspired by this very scene. It just happened. I'll see if I have the picture. I like an outdoor coffee cart. I just didn't know where this came from and why it was there, but you know what? It is what it is. But that took me almost entirely out of the entire conversation that was happening with Jackson and them because I'm just focusing in on this very nice piece of wood that is out there. And then I'm like, oh, wait, it's a coffee cart. Crazy to me. Dano? Right. Yeah. I went to Eddie the postman.

[00:27:41] He, there's a mail slot. He comes all the way. He walks into their house. Chad said it. He said that? Okay. I'm sorry. I got a text right when that happened. I'm really sorry. I wasn't listening. I was listening. I'm sorry, Chad. You know what? I was going to let you graduate. You were going to let me. No, I feel terrible. I hate that. I hate when that happens. That's what I mean, Chad. I was one texting you. I actually just texted you a picture of the Oye with the Poodle menu. So you see, I wasn't joking. I was going to have another one. Stamp of approval. It was so funny. I was going to plug our podcast to them too. Clearly, they would have been fans. That's right. Absolutely.

[00:28:10] A chai latte with two shots of espresso, vanilla, and brown sugar topped with vanilla sweet cream, cold foam, and vanilla sugar. That sounds delicious. Yeah, that sounds right up your alley. With that, with a Kringle, you would graduate to heaven, my friends. They have a lot of great fall drinks at this cart. Okay, anyway, go ahead. I have one that maybe Chad didn't say, and it's Paris is conducting this Q&A with these two folks who are trying to help seniors get into college. And she's conducting it with Rory, and she is very concerned that it's going to be boring.

[00:28:41] Since when does Paris care if anything is boring? Since when? Every time she talks, she knows she's boring. Like, she literally, there's an episode in season two where she's realizing she's boring everyone. Like, at what point did Paris go, the most important thing here is entertainment? I don't know how, that's not a part of her deal. I know she wants to be more well-received and more well-liked by others, and she would

[00:29:08] love it if everyone found the thing she's talking about more interesting. But her wanting to craft an experience that is for entertainment first, and the school pushing back on her is just not, like, I just was shocked that that was something we were supposed to just believe. Yeah. That's adding a post, man. Am I right, Chad? Yeah, well, can I just say one thing real quick so I get a text while you're talking? Did you guys see the scene where Paris is talking about the Q&A? And she's like, I'm going to, like, be boring, you know? And I was just like, I don't know.

[00:29:38] That's a good one. Nobody said that one, Chad. That's a good one. That's all you guys had to do. You could have kept up a bid all year. That's all you had to do? You didn't do it. It was right there. I'm going to send you an apology letter in the mail, Chad. That's on me. Please, do your jazz. Never send it. Never send it. All right, let's get to it. Our written in the Stars Hollow questions. We have all that good stuff. Chad? Okay. Written in the Stars Hollow. Oh, here we go.

[00:30:05] Can Rory and Dean survive Rory leaving for college? Because it might not even survive Stars Hollow itself. And can Lorelai survive without Rory? She barely made it for the few weeks that Rory was away for the summer. So this is going to be a really interesting way in the future. I guess maybe season four at this point. So that was a big written in the Stars Hollow for me. I feel like Rory and Dean's relationship would be at its peak if they were split apart. Right. They could be friends.

[00:30:33] Like, I think it could be the best version of their relationship we've ever seen if she goes to college a far way away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. That might actually help. Although it doesn't seem like when she was in D.C. at all. And my other one is they discussed the conveyor belt. The sister, Springsteen's sister, is discussing with Rory this conveyor belt that you're stuck on and you have to go to Harvard. You have to go to the best school. Maybe that's not the route. And it's the first inkling we see that maybe Rory's fooling herself that she's not on the conveyor belt.

[00:31:02] And this is all of her own volition because the sister says to Rory, when did you want to be in Harvard or whatever? And she said, oh, I want to be in Harvard since I was four. And the sister goes, you independently came to the conclusion at four years old that you want to go to Harvard? Are you sure you're not thrust on this conveyor belt yourself? So it was really interesting. My first thought that, okay, maybe Harvard is not the only answer here for Rory. Fair. I mean, I just think we were in, we drove past Yale a few weeks ago. Like we were in the town where Yale exists. Very nice area.

[00:31:32] And it's close. It's in Connecticut. It just makes a lot of sense that Rory would end up not at Harvard, but at Yale because that way she can stay in the show. Yeah. If anything, Yale is their conveyor belt because of the Gilmore. Yeah. I was, that isn't, that's maybe a good written in the stars hollow, which is they really put Harvard up higher than Yale. And I know that Harvard is the first college institution in the United States, but I'm pretty sure Yale's second.

[00:31:59] Like Yale is, you know, is Yale, Princeton, Yale, Harvard. These are in the same breath schools. The idea that there wouldn't even like, they should be held upon like on an even playing field. Right. I think because Lorelai was so into pushing Rory to Harvard because it's not Yale because her dad went to Yale. So that may be it. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah.

[00:32:42] Can you imagine walking across the stage and instead of a diploma, they give you a Kringle and you take a picture with it. Oh my goodness. Worth the 150,000 right there. You don't got to spend that at Kringle and you're getting 10% off. That's right. Anyway, all that to say, Luke and Taylor are arguing again about the banner that he put up. Right. And he points out that the, in the diagram, it was Stars Hollow Soda Shop and Taylor's

[00:33:10] changing it to Taylor's Soda Shop. Yeah. If that banner had appeared the next day after I had agreed, I would have lost, like, I would have been so angry that you planned this without getting, like, talking to me first, even though it's my property and then you turn around to, I would have lost my mind. In this particular case, I think Luke's frustration is valid. Totally. 100%. Like, this whole thing, like, okay, fine. You know what? My, the Gilmore Girls want a soda shop. They'll get us. But as soon as he, there's nothing he can do.

[00:33:40] He can't determine the name of it. I know. Now it's, now it's Taylor's Soda Shop. It would be like Taylor putting his name on the Kennedy Center. Like, it was supposed to be a soda shop for the town and then all of a sudden he's thrown his name up everywhere. I'm just saying, you know, hypothetically, like, it's just, you know, it was a little off for me. He wouldn't do that. No one would be dumb enough to do that. Mine's also. That's an institution, brother. That's true. Mine's also the soda shop. Like, is this going to be an institution in Stars Hollow? Because nothing to me, we've been to some soda shops. I've had an egg cream.

[00:34:10] You know, the root beer ice cream combo, which is just a root beer float, right? That's how that works. Yeah. Dairy sodas. Brown cow or whatever they call it. It's just a root beer float, right? That was interesting. Root beer and vanilla ice cream. It's weird that they called it something different. But it makes zero. That's a cool idea. Soda shop is a cool idea for a town like Stars Hollow. My little soda shop. Nice. It was there the whole time and you got it. You grabbed onto it and you took it. It's great. It's great that there would be a soda shop there.

[00:34:37] The idea that a soda shop shares a wall with a diner. I thought exactly. But they're not the same. Why would you rent to your competition? I don't get it. I don't understand. Why? What? That doesn't work at all. It's one thing. It's a diner with a soda shop. You can't have a soda shop that's separate from a diner. You could just say, I'll do that. I'll do it myself. I own the building in there. If Luke sees that it makes Lorelai and Rory happy, why not just do it yourself?

[00:35:07] Yeah. That was a weird one for me. So I'm interested to see how much the soda shop plays in the coming episodes. I want to know if they're going to stick with it or if it's something we just never hear about again. Yeah. And more Taylor and Luke. Hopefully that would be great. Those are great. All right. We did it, everybody. Congratulations to us. We'll be back next week. Episode four. Cruising right along. Come on back for that. Until then, keep Gilmore-ing and be merry! Gilmore the Marry is a Bramble Jam podcast presented by Racine Danish Kringles. Kringle.com. Get as many as you could possibly fit in your freezer.

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