Holiday in Handcuffs (ABC Family - 2006) ft. Ryan Pappolla

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[00:07:04] Ryan Pappolla, Deck The Hallmark Podcast Network Holiday in Handcuffs, ABC Family, the superior network to Freeform. Whoa! Better than Freeform is what I'm saying. I thought you were going better than Hallmark. Oh no, I can't say that.

[00:07:17] But everything changed when they changed to Freeform and I think we all understand. December 9th, 2007 is when it premiered on that network and it went a little something like this. The movie kicks off with Trudy driving down the road. Informing us that she's not crazy.

[00:07:36] She picks up some dude on the side of the road and he's grumpy, he hates her, he calls her crazy. Flashback to 18 hours earlier, Trudy is trying to get ready to go meet with, to have a job

[00:07:52] interview with a family friend because her parents think it's time for her to get her life together. But she's a big old mess. She's got her hair in curls for too long. It's not going to end up well.

[00:08:05] She's heating up Chinese food with a hair dryer and it's just, it's a big deal. And so she's on her way to the interview and she ends up being late because she caused,

[00:08:16] I don't know if she caused an accident but she was around an accident which caused her to be late and not be able to do the interview at all. So the good news though is that her boyfriend Nick is going to be coming with her to her

[00:08:30] family's house so she's not a complete failure. Except uh oh, he breaks up with her, he's not going to come. Hi Benjamin Ayers by the way. Yeah Benjamin Ayers, shout out. Shout out Benji.

[00:08:42] So she ends up having, she's at her diner job and she ends up having a full blown breakdown when David Martin, the random guy from the beginning of the movie, he walks in, he's a customer here at this diner, at this here establishment and she's deciding what am

[00:09:01] I going to do, how am I going to talk to my family and so she just decides to kidnap this guy and make him act like her boyfriend. And so she gets to the house around 7 or 8 and she runs inside. Goes to the cabbie, smell you later.

[00:09:18] She runs inside and she tells her parents hey Nick is a little bit nervous and sometimes when Nick is nervous he yells out funny things like I've been kidnapped. Don't think anything of it, he definitely has not been kidnapped, just roll with it, laugh at his jokes.

[00:09:34] Which to their credit they do immediately start laughing and rolling with it. He tries to make a run for it but they're in the cabin in the middle of nowhere, there's nowhere to run.

[00:09:44] He tries to tell the rest of the family when they show up that he's been kidnapped they all just laugh at him, funny guy. So he leaves in the middle of the night walking down the road which gets us back to the beginning

[00:09:56] of the movie which is her picking him up on the side of the road and bringing him back to the cabin. He is finally able to find a cell phone though and makes a call to his girlfriend for rescue,

[00:10:07] hey you gotta get me out of here, call the cops, do what you gotta do. But then he actually ends up starting to enjoy himself which actually frustrates Trudy because she thinks that her parents actually like him more than they like her which she might

[00:10:24] be right about that to be honest with you because they don't really like her, they tell her that she has to get her life together right in the middle of opening presents which could you wait please.

[00:10:35] Feeling bad for her in that moment David gets on his knee and proposes to her, he has a ring on him which is nice and so they're all like wow this is amazing. Then she walks in on him shirtless, 2007 Mario Lopez, shirtless, ow indeed.

[00:10:54] Things are getting steamy but then things begin to spiral a bit at dinner because her sister tells her parents that she dropped out of college and has been using the tuition money to buy a Pilates studio, her brother tells his parents that he's gay, her parents

[00:11:09] get into a huge argument about their life and then the police barge in and they arrest the whole family for kidnapping David. David decides not to press charges and they are ultimately released.

[00:11:22] Trudy finds out that David has a girlfriend and then finds out that they are getting engaged or they are engaged, that's why he had the ring because he was going to propose to his girlfriend.

[00:11:33] Trudy decides you know what I am going to commit to doing something and she's very passionate about her art which David encouraged her with when he saw her art. He did say it was a little bit weird but good which fair.

[00:11:47] She gets accepted to a new artist exhibit, her whole family ends up showing up despite her not wanting them to but they're really supportive about her doing her art and she is shocked to find out that one of her pieces sold during the show.

[00:12:03] As she goes to leave she is kidnapped by David. David blindfolds her, takes her to a nearby building, she's like this is weird. He tells her that he bought this building, he's going to make it into an architecture art studio.

[00:12:19] He says a lot of words back to back, I don't know. He wants to, it's a risk free graduation. So part of this building is going to include an art studio which is why he bought his first

[00:12:34] art piece which is Trudy's painting and they talk about how they love each other and they end up kissing and that my friends was Holiday in Handcuffs. We did it. We did do it, we're going to take a quick break.

[00:12:53] We're going to come back, we're going to break down this movie Holiday in Handcuffs here on Deck the Hallmark. Nailed it. It's really good. I like good stuff. Fourth of July. Do you got an eater in the hunt here Ryan that you're cheering for today?

[00:13:12] An eater in the hunt. An eater in the hunt. It just doesn't feel the same. I'm all in on Labor Day though. We're all getting together to pod that. We're podding the hot dog contest. We're doing that live and then a post show. Full thing.

[00:13:28] Let's go with Badlands Booker, he's always around. Yeah, I do think there's an opportunity here to create a new star and that excites me. But we're on before the hot dog eating contest and at the moment I just don't have that juice

[00:13:42] or water as it may be that they drink down the hot dog. You gotta dip the bread, do the shake, the Kobayashi shake. Let's talk about Holiday in Handcuffs, a movie that people have been asking us for. One person, many people who can say.

[00:13:58] Let's start with a hot take. We're going to share exactly how we felt about this movie. Ryan, had you seen this movie before? You mentioned you owned the physical media version of it, the DVD. Since it came out. Since it came out, so I imagine that you have.

[00:14:12] But what has your experience been like with this movie, your history as it were and what do you think of it? Yeah, I've watched this movie every year since it's come out. If I had to guess, I probably recorded it on VHS because it's 07.

[00:14:26] I was still doing that and then by the next year it was available. When I was thinking about this last night, even before I started watching it, I credit this film in a lot of ways for kicking into high gear everything we have now. This came out in 07.

[00:14:40] Moonlight and Mistletoe was 08, which was Hallmark. That was Candace Cameron's first Hallmark flick. And by 08 with that Candace Cameron flick, it was like, let's get a lot of 90 stars who have big followings. Let's pair them together if we can.

[00:14:53] And let's start making as many Christmas movies as the budget will allow every year, both on ABC Family and on Hallmark. For me, 17-year-old me when this comes out, this was the equivalent of the Avengers assembling. I love Saved by the Bell. I loved Clarissa and Sabrina.

[00:15:11] And I also figure it's a different world in 07. I didn't think we'd ever see A.C. Slater or Sabrina again unless it was a Saved by the Bell or Sabrina reboot. The fact that these people could do something together and it's Christmas, which it's something

[00:15:27] that I love and it's original content, it was genuinely kind of crazy. And then the movie, then and now I can confirm is still great. It's cuckoo bananas in a lot of ways that I think these modern day films like try to reach and not always can.

[00:15:44] Mel Joe Hart fully commits. Mario Lopez does not get a lot of credit for his acting, but I think he's like really earnest in this and very quite good. And ultimately to have a gay relationship on a Disney property in 2007 and not just have

[00:16:00] it be a passing thing, but have it be like a bit of a plot point was pretty groundbreaking. If it's any barometer, Alyssa watches for the first time with me last night. She laughed all throughout. It's not perfect at times.

[00:16:12] It's probably too absurd for its own good, but I love it and I legitimately think it's still better than 97 percent of everything that's come after it. I love it. Everything that's come after it. Christmas genre related. Listen, you don't have to qualify it if you don't want to.

[00:16:28] You can say everything. It's awesome. I mean, like, so you'd say safely over two dozen watches. I've watched maybe I missed one year, but I definitely watch 24 plus this one be 19. I was giving you five more in there, but once a year, 19 times, you know, I just realized

[00:16:47] on file that he's as DTH is the way that the elf legs are. It's like on my torso and it kind of looks funny. It does. That's actually adorable. Yeah, Dan, maybe maybe that first year or maybe that first two years of owning it.

[00:17:00] I watched it more than 20. We'll give you 20. Well, Dan, here's the I'm sure you're going somewhere, but that's important to say. I think that's the other reason why this is really stood the test of time and 07 through 08 08 09. There weren't 100 Christmas movies a year. The text is huge.

[00:17:14] It's huge. It's like my condescendants. It's very similar. If this came out now, I would love it. But the odds of me watching it every year are zero. Like Ghost of Christmas, always. I loved it. I might watch that movie five more times in my life.

[00:17:29] Yeah. You know, just because there's like, I start I start watching Christmas movies in September, like, you know, and it's like I'm already jam packed. So but I did go into this rewatch last night with like, let me grade this objectively since

[00:17:42] I have such a nostalgic sweet spot for it. And I do just legitimately think it's really, really good. It is so much fun. It's so ridiculous. It is an absolute classic. And I had a blast rewatching it. I haven't seen it in quite some time.

[00:18:00] A lot of the ABC Family movies that I used to watch when they were on ABC Family, I haven't seen in quite some time because now Freeform doesn't usually play them as much. And that's a shame.

[00:18:13] I wonder if ABC Families like Freeform or whatever is kicking themselves for not staying in the original Christmas movie game like this because they had some hits. This Snow Globe, Snow. We'll talk about that. We did an Ashley Williams movie and a couple of weeks.

[00:18:28] We did do Snow Globe. We're doing Snow. Snow, just Snow. And Snow 2 in a couple of weeks. We're doing the movie Snow and Snow 2? Yes. Is there an underlying like a Snow 2 colon? Yes, brain freeze. Oh, thank God. Yeah, brain freeze. Great. Ashley Williams though. Okay, cool. Awesome.

[00:18:47] Brain freeze, thank God. Ryan Popola's shadow thought that was great. Sometimes for some reason you're like a silhouette now. Oh, you're better. He's working on his space. You're back. The ring light is here. I don't have a dongle. Give me one more week. Give me one more week.

[00:19:02] You'll get that dongle. You got to wait on the dongle. I've always said that. No, I had a blast rewatching this movie. There is like there's part of it that's just like I don't know what they were thinking

[00:19:12] with certain running gags, specifically the gas station attendant, which I'll talk about during the wait what. Oh my gosh. For the most part, a really wacky, wonderful movie. And I agree. I felt like Melissa Joan Hart and Mario Lopez at this point in their Christmas movie career

[00:19:34] to say that they're just, you know, they're showing up and they're doing their yearly Christmas movie over at Lifetime or wherever it may be would be putting it lightly. You know, they're not revolutionizing the game.

[00:19:45] This movie, I felt like they actually did some performances and it was what a wild time it was in 2007. It was so, so much fun to go back and watch this movie. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Dan, you'd never seen it before. Never seen it. Thoughts, holiday and handcuffs.

[00:19:58] Yeah, this is just okay for me. And I know that everyone collectively is screaming and I get that. But let me explain myself. I will say that context is important. If this is the movie that launched a thousand ships, so to speak, I understand that. It makes sense.

[00:20:13] I think Melissa Joan Hart, Mario Lopez have great chemistry and they're wonderful together. And this movie is weight wet proof because it is so crazy. And every time you think it's going to settle in, it becomes just more screwball, more absurd.

[00:20:30] And I did laugh at moments of this movie and I appreciated the chemistry of the movie. And this is my favorite Melissa Joan Hart anything by a mile. But this movie does belong in a very, very, very weird.

[00:20:41] And I can't actually think of another title, but I know I've seen other movies like this sub niche of movies where our lead does something completely wrong. And then later in the movie, when you learn about the lead and the character, you kind

[00:20:56] of are kind of gas lit into forgiving her and being like, yeah, that makes sense. And I hated that. I hated Trudy. She committed a crime. I know the movie is absurd. I know it's crazy. It's criminal. You can't do this and have it work out for you.

[00:21:14] She got arrested, but she got the guy. She got arrested though. She got the guy. She there is no world where a dude would actually trust her after this. I know it's absurd. It's screwball comedy. And so I tried my best to extricate that.

[00:21:28] You don't know everyone's story, but I try. It's possible. Let me finish. I tried to extricate the fact that I hated that because I hated it. I hated the fact that she committed a crime and by the end we're like, oh, poor Trudy.

[00:21:42] If anybody would just, her parents suck. If we could just give her a, I hated it so much, but I tried to take it out and go, the movie's a screwball comedy. The parents are awful. Of course she's going to end up with the guy.

[00:21:54] And so it's an okay for me. It's an okay. I get why it's classic status. I get why it's meant to classic. I also get that if you were what Ryan Popola was in 2007, that you would adore this movie. I think that's more than fair.

[00:22:06] You're seeing these two stars you watched on TV a decade ago. You never know if you're going to see him again. Christmas movies aren't a dime a dozen. You painted that picture perfectly and in that world, I see how you got there.

[00:22:19] For me, having watched almost a thousand of these movies, this movie was just okay. It's just okay and that means it's better than a lot. Better than maybe half. So yeah, sorry, sorry, not sorry.

[00:22:34] You know, it's not, I'm going to just kind of bypass what you said and go back to me and Ryan. It's not every day that you meet somebody and you go, this person might be my long lost

[00:22:45] brother and that's how I feel with Ryan for so many reasons. But like your thoughts on this movie, we bonded over our love of the CBS made for TV movies Santa and Pete from 99, an absolute classic.

[00:23:01] Like there's so many things like this that like kickstart a whole obsession for me and obsession for you. I love you buddy. I love, I love, I love you more and yeah, but I think it's really important.

[00:23:15] It just was like Dan, I'm really glad you asked those followups because it was just a different time. Like you know, it's like there was no way to know in 07 that there was going to be across five different channels, 150 of these a year. There's a go for it.

[00:23:29] Dan, sorry. No, no, you were mid, mid. I thought you, I thought you were wanting, you were laying in the plane. You were ramping up. Keep moving. Well, no, there's a, there's a bonus feature on the physical media.

[00:23:37] Shout out to Alonzo, a release of this that set like, you know, the directors are talking and listen, it's all pre-film hyperbole. It's like we're looking to make another Christmas classic. No one would ever say that now about one of the 40 hallmarks, but in 07 you're like, well

[00:23:51] they only make a few of these a year. Maybe this will become a Christmas classic. And now I think I can safely say there are a few movies a year that are better than this. Like every year, like goes to Christmas always. Oh my gosh.

[00:24:05] Like I expected Christmas, Christmas and Biltmore round and round. Like these movies are all just way, way better than holiday and handcuffs. And so, yeah, I've seen a lot of pushback in the chat and I get that somebody who's like, doesn't Dan like Lucifer? Yes.

[00:24:18] I don't like it. It's not like, that's amazing. That's like not even in the same ballpark. Like I like stuff where crimes are committed watching that, that stuff. But this is not that this is very much, and it plays by its own rules.

[00:24:34] And so you forgive it some, if it wasn't as good as it was, then I wouldn't forgive it at all. And I just think, but if you watch over the last six years of Hallmark movies, there have

[00:24:44] been at least, at least 25 movies better than this one, just on Hallmark. That seems high. And I just like, you know, I mean, I'm just pulled like Deliver by Christmas. That movie is way better than this movie. Like I just like, for me, that's my bar.

[00:25:01] That's my bar for this is how about the one, the two movies we watched now I can't think of the name with, with Alonzo that were on prime with, with dude from Ender's game. Crandall's Max time. Crandall's Max time. Yeah. Your Christmas or mine. Yeah.

[00:25:15] That's a way that your Christmas or mine is phenomenal. Like there are so many, I get, I watched so many of these. Had I not had I been in your shoes and been like, love Christmas, love my nineties TV, which I did. There aren't a lot.

[00:25:27] There's not a lot of Christmas movies coming in. I probably would be in the same boat as you. I totally empathize that. And I think it's a fair take, but for me, who's watched as many as I have before seeing this, that's unfortunate for me.

[00:25:40] I know it's a lot of people's favorites that tends to happen with some of these old movies when you watch it, when you watch it depends a lot on, on how you, how it's, you know, sticks around in your head. And so for me, it was just okay.

[00:25:52] On IMDb, this movie is called to catch a crime. Yeah. That's in my white. What's to catch a crime? 2006 to catch a crimes plural to catch a crimes. Yeah. I just want to say after everything Dan said, Bran, I love you too. Thanks bud.

[00:26:07] Hey, you want to potter parade later? Thank you. Maybe right after this. Maybe we should potter parade immediately following this. I hear there's a good from 1988. The year is night now. Nevermind. It's a doozy.

[00:26:21] Let's get to all the fields where we talk about what in this movie gave us those fields, right? What I will give you Dan, Dano is that like, yeah, if you just look at it by the nuts and

[00:26:33] bolts, Trudy is a criminal and David is a, but honestly, David is crazier because he knows this person for 36 hours. And then it's not the movie, but I've always liked about this movie is that it ends sometime around early March.

[00:26:53] He has three months to think about this and calls off a wedding and decides to be with Trudy with all of that said, so I give you all that with all of that said the ending

[00:27:02] narration mixed with the score on this just always gets me in the bread basket. I really love it. The score is great. They don't use it much throughout the film, really just in the ice skating scene and in the end bit.

[00:27:15] It's the typical, all the fields answer the end big kiss scene, but it gets me every time. I really enjoy it. Oh no, that ice skating scene is dynamite. Uh, Ryan, I'm not even going to talk to Dan still.

[00:27:26] Um, you know, this is a classic go out somewhere and turn on Christmas lights and I'm, I'm an easy boy. I see that and I give him a microphone. He's good to go. What is wrong with me? Why do I do this?

[00:27:47] Why do I talk for a living? What happened is you were looking for like easy boy to please, easy boy to make happy. Keep working on that. I just want everyone to know and I mean this like honestly, there's been a lot of times

[00:28:04] over the past few years where I've said something and uh, it doesn't matter what the context is. You can take that clip out and it's unfortunate and I want you to know that every time I'm

[00:28:15] not doing a bit, I'm trying to just talk and it just, I have a hard time sometimes. Yeah, difficult. I really like it when he turns on the lights though. I really like it when he turns on the lights and they do a little, it's, it's sweet.

[00:28:27] I like that. Dano, I'll get more specific than the skating scene. It's the snow. The snow is real. It looks amazing. It feels cold in this movie and I know in Oh seven that was probably a prerequisite to

[00:28:40] make a movie about Christmas, but the flip side of having done this and watching this for the first time is I really appreciate the fact that it feels Christmassy and feels cold. That was huge and we don't ever get that these days. So let's take a quick break.

[00:28:57] We'll come back and we'll do a wait. What? We'll see if we could pull any from this film here on deck the Hallmark. Yeah. It's a, I'm a good doodle. Dan, at one point, I don't even remember who it is.

[00:29:25] They just add a couple of verses to the national anthem. To the national anthem. Yeah. There are more than one verse. Not I looked up the verses. What they had more original content. Original content. Sandy Patty. Sandy Patty doing a national anthem remix. Yeah.

[00:29:45] And she goes like five octaves to it and it's great. Let's potter parade. Y'all gotta potter parade later. Let's potter parade. Yeah. Let's get to the wait what. So we're talking about what in this film and just go wait what? Right? It is tough. Like, listen.

[00:29:59] It's really hard to do that any here. Yeah. I wound up on three and the first one's a practical and the other two are just kind of funny. Ha ha. I love the narration at the end, but it just always bothers me when a film establishes narration

[00:30:13] early on and then abandons it for either the rest of the film or in this case. That's what they did. And so at least at least they brought it back at the very end.

[00:30:23] But it was just kind of like they didn't know how to fill a few pages of exposition. So they just had Melissa Joan Hart do some VO. So that's not great. The other two though, word to the wise for Mario Lopez in the future.

[00:30:34] If someone pulls in 150 year old musket on you in a diner, that's right. Maybe instead of saying nothing, go, hey, someone just pulled a musket on me in this diner. And then maybe then the movie could have had to take it a different shape.

[00:30:48] And they might shoot you though if you say it. Sure. But it's a musket. It's a musket. Yeah. If they miss it, I mean, you're good to go. They also like he's the easiest person in the world to kidnap. There's just no question about it. Easiest.

[00:31:05] I do think when it comes to muskets, you should call the bluff. Yes. I think somebody pulls a musket. You're like, no, you won't. That's a new rule of thumb. If it's a musket, call the bluff.

[00:31:15] And he was basically there like he was still worried about going to the bathroom halfway through the musket being drawn on him. And then last one for me, her best friend finds out Melissa Joan Hart's best friend finds out that she kidnapped a man and doesn't do anything.

[00:31:29] Nothing. I love you both dearly. I'm going to get a better lighting set up. I can't wait to see in a few weeks. Happy Fourth of July. If either of you ever kidnap A.C. Slater, I'm calling the authorities immediately.

[00:31:40] And if you like, I just want to let you know that's this whole movie. What if it's a regular person, not A.C. Slater? We can talk about that offline. Thank you. Yeah. That's it for me.

[00:31:49] Melissa Joan Hart is going in for a job interview with a man who when she was a kid called her little pootie little pootie. I don't really have a ton to add to it.

[00:31:58] Aside from they wrote in a script and they said, what do we give her nickname? Let's call her little pootie. And I think the only reason they did that is so that when the blinds are coming down, they

[00:32:09] can have Melissa Joan Hart go, it's little pootie, which is very funny. But yeah, called her little pootie. All right, cool, man. That's weird. Speaking of weird, there's a lot of weird sex stuff in this movie. A lot. The gas station guy, weird, weird guy.

[00:32:30] Her best friend when the cops show up doing weird sex stuff. And I don't really know why. I don't know what's going on there with the writing of this movie. I'm an easy boy. A lot of weird sex stuff in this movie.

[00:32:44] And maybe that's just that that's the difference between 2007 ABC Family and to a 2024 Hallmark is lots of weird sex stuff. That's the only difference. A fun little movie making gag for you folks at home.

[00:32:59] If you're really looking, she gets all dressed up for dinner and she's got a nice dress on. A.C. Slater shows up. He's like, you look great. Amazing dress. She's like, you look good too. And then he's like, let me show you something.

[00:33:11] And they're walking out to the gazebo. They have this shot from far away up in the air, looking down at them as they're walking. And whoever it is that's walking as Melissa Joan Hart is wearing red pajama pants and they don't do anything with it.

[00:33:26] She's not wearing red pajama pants, but in that particular scene from far away, you can see them and that's just fun. Last but not least, when they go to the art show, all the names of all of the new artists are on the wall projected on there.

[00:33:43] Looks great. There's only one name in bold, though, and it's Trudy's, which is really convenient for her to be the only name on the list of the new artist that is in bold. You want people to know who you are. How can they know who you are?

[00:33:59] Bold it, bold Trudy. Be bold. Be beautiful. Cover girl. Dan? I don't think that's it. I don't know. Yeah, we talked about this during Deck the Lifetime uncorked, but her mom is kind of the worst person, always commenting on her figure, always telling her to wear a different

[00:34:16] dress, different blah, blah, blah. I comment on your figure all the time. Yeah, well, you do. That's different. I've told you to. Yes. And then Dan said, yeah, Brian, could you do me a solid every day when I walk in? Just give me a number one to ten.

[00:34:29] Yes. And I and I do. That's right. What was today? Oh, today was a 10. He gave me a 10 today. No crazy. I didn't. You're putting your hands up and said, I'm an easy boy. Hold up. Stand up, Dan. Stand up.

[00:34:43] And Ryan, you and I are going to give our number. No, I'm not doing it. Ready? One, two, three, seven, six. Oh, six from Popola. That's messed up, man. Clearly a seven. I see how it goes. I was trying to go with what Brian went with, you know?

[00:34:56] Yeah. Six. I see you. I see you up there, Popola. Your shadow or whatever I'm looking at is a three. I got him. So we talked about this on the day of the lifetime of McCork, but her mom, who's the

[00:35:10] worst person, is also doing a formal Christmas dinner in a cabin with just family. And that makes her the worst person. When you go over to your family's house for dinner, you want to relax. Have you ever had this, Ryan? There's a seating chart for this dinner.

[00:35:31] Her mom says there are seating arrangements for this dinner. You go over to your ... I know your family's close. They get together for stuff. Do you have a dress up? I've never heard of this ever, and Brian hadn't either, and neither had Patrick for that matter.

[00:35:47] It's crazy to me that ... I get it. You want to bring somebody home because you're sick of your mom being on your case. You know you had this guy, the guy just dumped you, blah, blah, blah. But a dress up, assigned seating, family dinner on Christmas?

[00:36:02] Talk about ruining Christmas. That's the worst. That's the worst thing, right? Yes. Yeah, of course. Right before she decides to kidnap Mario Lopez, there's a kid in this diner who talks to the server, I believe it is Trudy, and basically calls her stupid.

[00:36:20] It's like, hey, I asked for hot fudge on this, and he calls her a name. I don't remember what name he calls her. Do you remember, Ryan? I do not. Okay. Anyway, his parents are just sitting right there, and everything in me as a former child

[00:36:36] of parents who would have none of it, and as a parent who would absolutely ... I would have picked the kid up with one hand, and we would have been outside. I can't imagine a child with his parents looking at a server and talking to them like that.

[00:36:54] I couldn't ... It was the one thing in this movie that didn't ring as oddball, it just read as disrespectful. I just was like, what? Nobody's going to say anything? It's like, yeah, we let him demean servers. That's how he knows he's better. I couldn't believe it.

[00:37:10] I couldn't do it. We were at Fuddruckers on Saturday, and my kid came up and decided while we were getting our food at the counter at Fuddruckers, he looked at me and he went, boy, I didn't ask for bacon like that to me.

[00:37:23] I did not take the food from the counter. I lifted my child up, put him on my hip, and walked away and sat him down in private to talk to him. The idea that this guy can just call servers names is crazy. Am I wrong there?

[00:37:40] That's interesting because we have tape of you. I think you said attaboy when the Air Kid did that. Whatever you want to tell the people is fine, but I do want to put it on the record. Interesting tape. Attaboy. Interesting tape that we had.

[00:37:57] He was calling me boy, so I don't know why I would say attaboy. Yeah, because it's funny. Ryan mentioned this earlier, but she's pointing an actual gun at him, a gun that has not been made in a century. It is the ultimate weight of this movie.

[00:38:10] Then she fires it in between his legs and he still ends up with her at the end of this movie. That's right. He couldn't be better about this. He is above and beyond great about this.

[00:38:26] My last question is, and maybe this could be I missed it, so I'm glad you've seen it 20 times. She's walking out with him. He slips on the black ice and falls. And then the next thing we see, am I correct, he's in the car with her.

[00:38:39] How did she get him in the car? What happened? He was out cold. By herself, she lifted Mario Lopez into the car. She's a witch. She's a witch. She called Salem the cat. That's it. Thank you. I knew you guys would know.

[00:38:56] She was a teenage witch, so she's learned a lot. This gas station worker should never be on any movie. The rest of this was fun. The movie's really horny. It's a fun thing.

[00:39:09] And Mario Lopez is getting out of the shower and she's in there and he's like, do you want to take a shower? Like, stuff you wouldn't see in a Hallmark movie today. Or like when they catch The Best Friend. All of that fun above board.

[00:39:19] This gas station employee has to be arrested. Like he is in his own universe with what he's saying. And I couldn't believe it every time he was there. And then last but not least, I know it's 2007 and I'd like to say that Christmas TV movies

[00:39:35] have learned something over the last 17 years, but they haven't. If your character likes to paint and is selling paintings, can we make the paintings just decent? Just like okay. Just like good. I've seen worse. I thought the gazebo was a giant singing octopus. I honestly... Could have been.

[00:39:54] That's the beauty of art. Yeah, it is. It's bad painting. It's all like you just got to look at it. Oh, I forgot. We get a close up of the stunt double skating. They do.

[00:40:02] The skaters go around and when they spin, they go close up on the face and it's not Melissa Joan Hart. So, you know, try better. There you go. She's a witch. It's time for what the hallmark story.

[00:40:13] One of what could have been maybe given some clarity and questions we still have. Ryan, what are you still wondering about? First of all, Dan, you're a 10 in my book. I just want to say. Oh, that's sweet. Okay.

[00:40:22] That's what Brian said this morning, but then he's put on the spot here back down to seven. No, no. You're a solid 10 by me and Brian, you're an easy boy. Mario and Brian, you mentioned this earlier.

[00:40:35] Mario and Mel Joe have teamed up for Christmas project since I know it wouldn't be simple. I don't know who owns the rights to this. You know, I don't know what free form. But yeah, give me a 90 minute item box. That's what you want.

[00:40:48] Yeah, I'm surprised a sequel to this hasn't happened. I honestly, I only landed on this because I didn't have any other anything else that fit in this category. But given how beloved it is, at least by one person in our little Facebook group, I'm surprised it's never happened.

[00:41:02] Yeah. One of the holiday in handcuffs, Funkle Pops coming out. I mean, we're a little behind on those. We got jingle all the way a couple years ago, so don't rule it out. Yeah. Need a spot in your. How's your glass case going?

[00:41:16] Oh, I just realized the other day that I'm going to be able to have room for most of my Christmas stuff, but there's going to have to be a big reorg. Maybe that's a vlog in a couple months. Who knows? So you're a big reorg. I love that.

[00:41:28] Yeah. I just guys are mocking that. I'm not mocking it at all. We would never. Dan, I'm going to bring you back down to a six if you're not careful. I don't live for your approval. I call me a ten.

[00:41:40] I want you to know, Ryan, that if I had the money to and it's probably I'm protecting myself. I would be a collector. Like I could very easily see myself being a collector if I had if I let myself give into those desires.

[00:41:55] You kind of are Christmas stuff. You kind of are. Yeah. I'm an easy boy. At the beginning of this movie, she is heating up Chinese food with a hairdryer. And I just want to know how long that would take if push came to shove. Microwave wasn't working.

[00:42:13] You want to heat up your chest a certain temperature. Is it possible? Is it possible to heat it up? How much? Because she does it for two seconds and then she dies. And that's clearly not enough time. Just get the car. Thank you.

[00:42:23] But how long would it take, you think, to get it to a comfortable temperature or a desired temperature to eat Chinese food? I don't know, but I would like to find out. So Bill Nye the Science Guy, maybe he can let us know. Bill, Bill, Bill. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:36] Mine was already said, but IMDB has this movie listed as to catch a crimes, plural, to catch a crimes. And I just want to know what happened there. To catch a crimes. I want to know how we got there. Are we missing something?

[00:42:47] Is it like a pun that we're not understanding? To catch a crimes? To catch a crimes. I don't know. I don't know what happened. It's like somebody translated it into another language and translated it back. That's all I can gather.

[00:42:59] So even to catch a crime wouldn't make any sense. Yeah, but to catch a crimes makes less sense. Maybe it's, you know, maybe it is a translation gone wrong. And it's like the fact that handcuffs is plural. Maybe in the translation crimes became plural.

[00:43:19] To catch a crimes, everybody. To catch a crimes. We did it, everybody. Congratulations. So much fun talking about a holiday in handcuffs and also so much fun today doing a little who what when on South Carolina Public Radio. Do a little let's party. A parade. Yes, sir.

[00:43:35] Very fun day. Yes, sir. We're gonna be back next week with the missile tones. The missile tones. Missile slash tones. Yeah. Have you seen it? I've never seen it. We went from 20 times. I've seen a holiday in handcuffs and missile tones combined 20 times. There it is. Me too.

[00:43:55] Nope, nope. Just a second. Zero. Yes, Aaron, you can say something. You want to talk about owning physical media? I own the soundtrack to the missile tones. There's a soundtrack? Yeah, it's got to be about 20, 2012.

[00:44:09] So maybe like one of the last last was before I met Bram transition free form. Yeah, that was a good year. When did they transition to free form? Not until I think like 18 or 19. It's been a while. No, no, no, no, no, no, sir.

[00:44:24] No, it's because we went to ATX festival. We saw that weird show. Free form. I think it was in 16. Really? Free form was a new channel. It was a weird camp show. Yeah. Yeah. Camp summer of dead. Summer of death. Summer of death. Something like that.

[00:44:41] Free form used to be called ABC family. 16. 16. 16. Wow. How about that? They were handing out a bunch of free things. Yeah, that was fun. All right, everybody. We will be back tomorrow with decom descendants right here on the deck to Hallmark feed because

[00:44:56] just so happened to be covering ultimate Christmas present this week. So we're going to continue some Christians in July with ultimate Christmas present until then. Maybe the first to wish you a Merry Christmas. The Hallmarks of Bramble Jam podcast is produced by Aaron Shay.

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