Hot Frosty (Netflix - 2024) ft. Alonso Duralde & Jacklyn Collier

[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I'm Bran and I love Netflix Christmas movies. I'm Dan and I despise Netflix Christmas movies. I'm Jax and Lacey Chabert is my queen of Christmas. I'm Alonso and this is Tepid Water and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast. Deck The Hallmark gets his podcast. Deck The Hallmark gets his podcast. We hope you like this jolly podcast.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Alonso is just at this point we've been doing this for so long together. Yeah, Bran told me that joke right before we started. He was like, I think I'm gonna go with Tepid Water. No, I'm just gonna say I love the movies and then you said it and it was like, oh my gosh. It's as though we'd done this before somehow. It's unbelievable. I just credit it to our working relationship and you know, I just we're on our we're right here. I always know what Alonso is talking about.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's great to be here today talking about Hot Frosty. Um, a movie that had a lot of buzz. So much buzz, Bran. You know, you got a snowman coming to life. You got Lacey Chabert on Netflix. Very political by Jax there. I expect nothing less than her intro. Nicely done.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say none of this. None of this compares to the buzz that is When Calls to Heart coming back in January.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh. Why you gotta ruin Christmas?

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Jax, what do you think about that?

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited. You know, I was already dreading.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're not recording on Thanksgiving. I'm already disappointed about that.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You dropped that bomb on me without any warning.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jax texted and was like, hey, we typically record on Thursdays.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We have a deck to Netflix group chat. That is true. It's very, very exclusive.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And we typically record these episodes on Thursdays.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, pull back to current a little bit.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And Jax was like, hey, guys, planning my Thanksgiving.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: What time should I carve out on Thanksgiving?

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Pun intended.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Pun intended.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Pun intended.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And she was shocked.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: After the parade, before dinner.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Shocked to find out that we weren't going to record on Thanksgiving Day.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Man.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But it also shows her professionalism and commitment to the craft that she'd even be willing to.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I just really thought that we were all maybe like doing a Thanksgiving lunch together on

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the pod or something.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's okay.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I can still join my family's Thanksgiving.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You had a big send off.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, I'm not joining you jokers this year.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got my new family.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got places to be.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Gotta come crawling back now.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can always come down.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You can always come down to Greenville.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: There's always room at our table.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Ted bringing you back for When Calls the Heart?

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, these are the questions.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, God willing.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, things got a little weird with his wife, but I think we're all back on track.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean when you say we think everything's back on track?

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean?

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: She understands our relationship is purely platonic, at least from my standpoint.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But I can't control how he feels.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a two-way street, and my way on that street is platonic.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's how it works.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited about another season of not watching When Calls the Heart, but never missing

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: an episode of y'all talking about what's going on on When Calls the Heart.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That is one of my favorite podcasts.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There were several off-ramps for us when we started doing that show, and the number of

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: people that were like, When Calls the Heart's my favorite episode, or I don't watch the show,

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: but we'll listen to your pod, made us believe it was smart to carry on, and I regret it every

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: step of the way.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I just do.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Look, this is a show about Hallmark stuff, and that is their flagship property right now.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But it also, you know, we've been used to getting the way home in January, and so if I'm disappointed

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: about anything, which I'm not, it would be that we'd have to wait on another season of

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the way home.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll also say this.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Leave it to Hallmark to, like, hide Holidays and Mistletoe Murders, which early returns on

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: that, or they're both wonderful.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Hide those on Hallmark Plus and give us their flagship show in its 12th season three months

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: early with two months of ads that I've got to sit through now.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, you don't have to sit through them, because we have Philo.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We have Philo.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We watch the movies on Philo, and we just boop, boop, and we're back to the movies, so we

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: don't actually have to deal with them, because we have the movies on our DVR, and it's on

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: LinkedIn, so we don't have to worry about that.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: If anything, philo.tv.gch, if anything is making us wonder who's making decisions at

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Hallmark, I think these Netflix movies are part of that conversation.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's dive into Hot Frosty.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: If we have to.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: A reminder, the Christmas Movie Magic's not just for Hallmark Christmas movies.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They work for Christmas movies of all sorts, including even Netflix movies about a snowman

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that comes to life.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Even good ones, if we ever come across one, you can play it with good movies.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Christmas Movie Magic.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: DecktheHomar.com slash game.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You can get it there.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Or I just got word at a small amount of, I believe, Books a Million or something like

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Books a Million?

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to wait until Christmas Con, but we're going to have a very exclusive amount

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: of these games at Christmas Con.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Exclusive.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll sign them.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Not a lot.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll sign them.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Under 100 of them.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So you don't want to wait until December 12th or whatever that is, but we're going to have

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: them there if they sell out.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I know that there's a first run and they're going quick.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The first run is going to be gone before Christmas.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So you want to buy one.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You want to buy several.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially with Books a Million.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam!

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: A little Emerald Agassi.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk hot frosty.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to go.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So in case you missed it, it originally premiered on Netflix on November 13th, 2024.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And it went a little something like this.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: This movie kicks off with some narration about the Christmas magic of snow in fairy tales.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But this isn't just any normal fairy tale.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Cut to a house, all decorated for Christmas, and then the camera pans over to a house next

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: door, which is dark and cold.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Inside is Kathy, who is just as cold as her surroundings.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: While a truly awful version of Jingle Bell Rock plays in the background, we learn that

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Kathy runs a diner.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And although her house may imply otherwise, she isn't nearly as miserable as she seems

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: early on.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: She's actually pretty upbeat.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The diner keeps her busy and she likes it that way.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes to bring a couple some food that has a store in the city.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And they encourage her to get back out there.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get back out there and warm your heart.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Before she leaves, they give her a scarf.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And while walking through the town, the town square, Kathy comes across a very muscular snowman

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: sculpture.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Sculpture is how you would say that.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Sculpt.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Sculpture.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Sculpt.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Sculpt.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And she decides, you know what?

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need this stupid scarf that they just gave me.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give it to you.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Puts it around.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And she takes a picture of this.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That night, the magic wind blows.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The magic won as well.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The magic won.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They did win.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The night that I watched this, the magic did win.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a really good night.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And the snowman comes to life with the long scarf still around his neck and covering his

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: butt.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: His hot frosty.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly right.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He's only covered up by the scarf, if you catch the drift there.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He starts walking around town, taking in the sights and sounds, but soon realizes that he's

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: not wearing any clothes after seeing an ad and people wearing clothes.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Desperate, he breaks into a store and grabs the first thing that he sees to find some clothes.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The next day, Kathy parks her car and sees a man who appears to be talking to the other

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: snowman.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He notices her and excitedly tells her about what happened to him.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She's very confused, but invites him into the diner.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, the police chief investigates the break-in because stuff like this doesn't happen

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: in his town.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to take this case very, very seriously.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Back at the diner, Kathy tries to figure out this guy's name.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The shirt that he stole says Jack on it, which is nice.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You always, if you're going to steal a shirt, have it have a name on it in case you don't

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: have a name.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they go with that.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack explains that he was the snowman that Kathy put the scarf on, and Kathy thinks that

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: he is crazy, but also kind of feels sorry for him since he's freezing despite being inside.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So she takes him to the doctor who suggests that maybe Jack is telling the truth.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What a doctor.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they discuss finding Jack a place to stay, but he insists that he stays with Kathy

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: because he feels safe with her.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: She reluctantly agrees, bringing him to her house and leaving him in front of the TV while

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: she goes and she does her thing.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: After watching several channels, Jack snoops around her house and finds pictures of Kathy

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: with a man and some medical forms about chemotherapy.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That night, Kathy comes home and lets him know that the police are looking for Jack.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She tells him to lay low.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: In return, Jack shows her that he made homemade pizza and some eggnog.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he asks her about her late husband, and she opens up to this snowman.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The next day, Jack finds some home improvement channels and decides to get to work on fixing up

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Kathy's house.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But then a woman named Jane sees him shirtless.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: She crashes her car, and she brings him to her house to help with repairs,

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and later takes him to the diner where the sheriff is there and is like,

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: this guy's sketchy.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He immediately is suspicious of Jack and his strange habit of eating ice.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Despite the sheriff's suspicion, Kathy is moved by Jack's hard work and enthusiasm.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: She tells him that he can help out around the town, maybe help set up the school Christmas ball,

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and he quickly becomes a hit.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack is loving life, and Kathy starts to enjoy his company,

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: though she admits that she can't love anyone until she learns to love herself first.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: As Jack helps decorate the school's Christmas ball,

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he realizes that he wants to ask Kathy to that ball.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: With some encouragement from Deputy Shats, Jack finally works up the...

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Deputy Shats?

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Shats.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the deputy's name?

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Shats.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_04]: The last name of the deputy is Shats.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Shats.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Great.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: With a Z at the end.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Shats.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Shats.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack finally works up the courage.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: After some hesitation, he tells Kathy,

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to lay low.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to stand tall.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She agrees to go with him, and they go fancy shopping and have a wonderful time.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to the school dance and have the best time of their lives.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They step outside to cool off, and they almost kiss, but Jack pulls back,

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and he says,

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The more that I fall in love with you, the more I can't stand the thought of hurting you if I, you know,

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: melt.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Melt.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So they share a hug instead.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: On Christmas Eve, Kathy hosts a gathering at the diner.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Suddenly, the sheriff walks in and arrests Jack after finding a picture of him at the ATM,

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: showing that he is the guy that they've been looking for.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Kathy rushes to check on Jack, who is inside of the jail cell and is melting.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She runs to get all of the money in her safe, but it's not enough,

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: so the townspeople come together and contribute their own money.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a wonderful lifestyle.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The sheriff counts the money, but after seeing how much it is and how much it means to the town,

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: he returns it to Kathy and goes to get him out of the jail cell, but he's unconscious.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in a bad state.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: The townspeople carry him out into the snow, but he doesn't wake up.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Desperate, Kathy leans down and tells Jack that she loves him before kissing him.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: She begins to walk away, but suddenly Jack pops back up and says,

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm here.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They embrace, and Kathy notices something different.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack says, I don't know what's up, and then he shivers.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Kathy realizes that she's a real boy.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a real boy.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You're cold.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: They kiss again, and the crowd cheers.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: We see them spend Christmas together repairing the heat in the house,

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and then they are going to head off to Hawaii for a little vacay.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And that, my friends, was Hot Frosty.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We did it.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We did do it.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, let's take a quick break.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll break down Hot Frosty.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The only way that we know how.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You got it, buddy.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We're on.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Deck the Hallmark.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Bran, you and I can get tired of hearing the song Silent Night

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_04]: because of all the Hallmark movies, but you know what?

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I just heard Tyler Shaw's version of Silent Night, and it's a banger.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It is true, Dan.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We have made fun of Hallmark movies in the past for people slow dancing to Silent Night

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and being like, that's weird.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Would dance to this.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You should.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a danceable version of Silent Night.

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[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Go check out A Tyler Shaw Christmas.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It is out right now, not just streaming, but also on a brand new, beautiful red vinyl

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: for all of your listening opportunities.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You can throw the record on as you have people over.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You can throw it on Spotify while you're driving.

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[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Shaw Christmas is amazing.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a beautiful song, a beautiful album, a beautiful vinyl, and Tyler Shaw's

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Canada's Prince of Christmas, Bran.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he is.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: When you think Christmas, you think Tyler Shaw.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to listen to him however you can this Christmas, and you need to check

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: him out if you're in Canada where he's on tour.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly right.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And Dan, we went most of our life not knowing that Tyler Shaw was making music.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We heard about him last year, and we haven't turned back.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so happy that we get to help the people down here in America find out about

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: how amazing Tyler Shaw is.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: A Tyler Shaw Christmas is out right now.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Give it a listen wherever you listen to music.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, everybody.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It is the Monday crew is here.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Netflix time.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking Hot Frosty, and it's time for us to share our hot takes on this buzzworthy

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: movie.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it worth the buzz?

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Did it live up to the hype?

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's find out.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Jax, what are your thoughts on this movie?

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Give us your hot take.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I stand behind what I said.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Lacey Chabert is my queen of Christmas.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have two comparisons when I'm talking about a hot frosty.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to seem like they're out of left field, but are just an insight into how my

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: brain works.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So stick with me.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel McAdams was just in a Broadway play called Mary Jane, where she played the mother

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: of a chronically ill child.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And something that was so amazing about her performance is that it was very full, but also

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: very restrained.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she wasn't chewing the scenery.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't sobbing.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It was lovely.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought something that Lacey, also of Mean Girls fame, did so well in this movie

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: was that even when she's talking about her husband's cancer, like it's not this, like

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: where she's trying to emotionally manipulate me.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's just doing such beautiful work.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And same thing when she's, you know, serving all the people in the town, it's like she's

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: putting that grief into doing good for others.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a very beautiful performance.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we know that I said, I was kind of feeling a little weird about this plot.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't really change when we did our preview.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I still thought it was weird.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And, and look, do you, I think this is more of an Alonzo and a Dan thing, but maybe brand

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll surprise me in Arrested Development.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Ooh, Arrested Development.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm listening.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, uh, Charlize Theron when she plays Rita, the woman who ends up having cognitive

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: disabilities.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but you know, he just thinks she's quirky and eccentric.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I know exactly where you're going and you're right on.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You're right on.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't help the whole time, but think that this snowman was like Rita in that and gorgeous

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and lovely, loveling, like lovey, loveling.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even say it.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll cut it out and post.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: We will not have you saying loveling.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We're definitely not going to make like a remix.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to make a little remix of you saying that.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I made sure I had chronically ill and cognitive disabilities so I didn't walk myself into a

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: weird corner because I know when I get going how I can make.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Liebling.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He's Liebling.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just felt like, oh, I don't know if this is really okay, but you know, he's hot

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: as all get out.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I texted you guys during it that he reminded me of Brian Harrell, which I don't

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: think Brian Harrell is a simpleton, but, um, just to make that clear, uh, I said something

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: weird about Brian in the last podcast and I've got to continue.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Brian Harrell is a simpleton.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: We do have that as well.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's perfect.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We have always said Brian is the Rita from Arrested Development of our podcast.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Of our podcast.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And to be fair, even though I don't, I'm not sure if Brian would have gotten that reference

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_04]: or not, but Brian had a similar take to me right before we got started, uh, Jacks.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very interested to hear it because for me, I did enjoy this.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed this way more than I thought I would.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Performances are great.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Had fun with it.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Knew this wasn't really the plot for me, but had a great time nonetheless.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Alonzo.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So this has been, the buzz has been staggering.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, uh, you know, Amy Nicholson reviewed this for the New York Times.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I read her review.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It was crazy.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Very unusual for this kind of movie.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So like, uh, you know, I, I'm welcome to the party pal to everybody who is maybe this

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: is their entry point for these kinds of movies.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Jackson that this is a really great Lacey Chabert performance.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think this is some of her best work.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's a character that has a lot of layers and, and that's all handled really

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: well.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But this just didn't work for me.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to place the blame squarely on the otherwise talented.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a fan Dustin Milligan.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Bring it.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think, I don't think he pulls this off.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The movie requires him to kind of be Will Ferrell in Elf.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He has to be this complete naif about how the world works and, and just have this very

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: open spirit that could be misunderstood or exploited or whatever.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And at the same time, be a viable romantic lead for our heroine.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I didn't buy him as that the whole time.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't see their relationship really developing in a way that makes the story make

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: sense.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a lot of things, you know, that, that, that we're supposed to kind of take as

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: read in terms of like their chemistry or, you know, the, the, the evolution of their feelings

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: for each other that I feel like the movie doesn't nail because he doesn't nail them.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So as much as I liked the, the, I think it's a goofy premise that you could do something

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: with.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And for the most part, I think they mostly cover themselves, but we'll get into it the

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: wait, what's, um, you know, a lot of fun character actors in this, but just the,

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: his central performance didn't work for me.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And that made the whole movie not work for me.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm shocked to say that I agree.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and it hurt and hurt me because I, I honestly, I went into this being like, if ever

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: there, if there was a movie this year, that's going to work, it's going to be a touchdown

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: good times.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Christmas quest.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be this movie.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that three wiser men, uh, sure.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I thought that this movie was a surefire hit and I just, it was,

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: it's, uh, it was, it was a miss, a miss for me for all of the reasons that you all have,

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: uh, stated.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a movie here.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: This is how I would have preferred this movie to be structured.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: One don't buy their romance at all.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: None.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would have much rather him as him, uh, to come into her life to, uh, help teach her

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: some sort of lesson and then to go on his merry way, uh, back into snowman world.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will be back again someday.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He will be back again someday.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that is, is lovely, but that's a, like, I just think that this one with this

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: guy, uh, and the way that he was acting and the way that she was acting towards him for

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: almost the entire movie, I, I was really kind of shocked that they went with the romantic

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: angle, um, come the Christmas ball.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it just didn't feel like we had gotten there in any way, shape or form.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so, and I think that we could have done something if he, if they wanted to do

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: this and have him, uh, come along and help her, uh, work through some of the grief or

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the trauma or whatever she has to learn.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then him go on his way.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that movie works really well, but in this case, I'm, I am so, so sad to say that

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: this movie did not work for me and it, and it hurts.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It hurts me.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it does brand.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It hurts my heart a lot because unlike Jack's, I liked the overall idea of this.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that this could be really fun and, um, I was wrong and that makes me sad.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes me sad.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Dan doesn't make me sad.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_04]: This movie sucks.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, here's the thing is in the preview episode, I believe that I creamed this movie because

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought the floor of this movie was so incredibly high.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I looked at who was involved.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Katie Mixon Greer, Craig Robinson, Joe LaTrulio, Dustin McIntyre.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Billigan, Lacey Chabert.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: She's from Greer?

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Believe it or not.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Greer South Carolina.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Shout out.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Lacey Chabert, Russell Hainline writing this.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And this movie fails almost across the board aside from the fact that Lacey Chabert is

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: giving a performance that a is way too good for this movie.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And then certain scenes almost don't even belong in this movie.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: This movie has one bar and it is good time.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Good time.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It's gotta be a fun.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hot frosty guys.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: The audacity to make this not a good time, but instead one, an uncomfortable time.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Dustin Milligan.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you, Alonzo.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure if it's him or the writing to be honest, because he was giving me third

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: clone Michael Keaton for multiple multiplicity vibes.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he was giving me.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And, and it was, and I wrote down elf as well.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like the goal in my opinion, and obviously we're all giving a subjective opinion here, but the

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_04]: goal is for either he needs to be like omniscient, hot frosty, who's giving sage advice and knows

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_04]: there's something better for Lacey around the corner.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he waves goodbye and rides off in the sunset, or he needs to be like elf, like

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_04]: buddy, the elf.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And they do neither of those things.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And instead they have the audacity to make this kind of like a winking message movie where

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_04]: there like, there's almost like this thing that comes in at the end and the third act where

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like, this is how you accept people.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_04]: This is how you treat people.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is how you think the best of people.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And it, and it's, and it just lands so incredibly weird and flat.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Craig Robinson's character is what this whole movie should have been.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Craig Robinson has a ridiculous character who is just like hell bent on arresting this

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: guy for streaking.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And he, all of these, like him, Joe Latrilio and Katie Mixon Greer are all clearly guns for

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: hire.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: They're clearly like you met their number and they showed up to do the job and they're doing

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_04]: the best they can.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We tragically underused Katie Mixon Greer.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_04]: She's virtually not in it.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Craig Robinson is delivering.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_04]: He's delivering.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Lacey Chabert is emotionally delivering for a movie that does not serve that it doesn't

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_04]: earn it.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And, and so this was the worst possible to, and I Russell Hanline wrote the Santa summit

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and he crushed it.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what happened here.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if a bunch of hands got in this pie and they couldn't decide what direction

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_04]: to go.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So, but this was really, really disappointing for considering all that were involved.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: My biggest disappointment of the year for me, probably.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I was so disappointed by this movie.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't talked my wife into watching some of this movie and she stared blankly at the

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: television for 40 minutes.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I don't blame you.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, like if you had told me the Pentatonix movie was going to be better.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, I did.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I did.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't I though?

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you say that in the preview?

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: See?

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the thing.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta listen to Jax.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I also watched this movie with my wife and my wife, when the movie ended, she, she

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: rolled over on her side and she said, I'm mad right now.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: She's mad.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I just, the Pentatonix movie was miles better than this movie.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like filmmaking, humor, all of it.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I just, what happened here, gang?

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's hot frosty.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even actually, I don't even actually agree that, that Craig Robinson's character

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: worked.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I, all of that.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe in a movie where it all made sense with that.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he seems out of place.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It was so tonally all over the place.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a definitely in for it's, he is radioing in from another film and time.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Correct.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I, I 100% agree.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And if that's the take, then he doesn't work.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: My thing was, I want the whole movie to be as bonkers as what Craig Robinson is doing.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He's playing piano at the precinct.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He's singing.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He's, but he's, he's caring about arrested.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that is the level of sunglasses.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that is the level of almost to the naked gun level of, of crazy that we want in a movie

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: called hot frosty.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_04]: He came to life because of a scarf.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Guys do not do this.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Do not make Lacey Chabert hold back tears to win an Emmy in hot frosty.

[00:27:25] Stop it.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But boy, can she do it.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_04]: She crushed it.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, honestly.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He is a hot frosty though.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He is a hot frosty.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_04]: No question about it.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you say Dan, like what happened, like answering that maybe it was rhetorical,

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think they were like, Oh, you know, the Pentatonix movie.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, we're Netflix.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're doing.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They were like, we have Lacey.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do like this sad kind of Hallmark thing to put that in there.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a swing and a miss.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a swing and a miss.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do it.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Netflix.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Give us what you can give us and you give it better than anybody else.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You got the male stripper movie coming next week.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like why can't this, why is this movie trying so hard to be PG?

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand that.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Once again, it's hot frosty.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know why you're doing that.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's so frustrating.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine next week?

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's, she watches, uh, Chad, Michael Murray strip.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards she's like, my husband.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He's gone.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Chemo.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Chemo.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Pick a lane.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They made a guy who had been alive for 12 hours.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Read the papers on chemotherapy and be like, I wonder what this is about.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know what this stuff's about.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, let's get to all the feels where we talk about what in this movie gave us feels.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Jax.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, does it, is it good for this movie?

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No, but Lacey looking down at him when we think he's dead or whatever and says, I don't

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: care how long it lasts.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how fleeting it is.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to make the most of it while you're here.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And as Dan said, literally she's holding back tears and it's just, it's just gorgeous, gorgeous

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: work.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That, that was wonderful.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when, um, Katie mix, Katie mix in.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Katie makes a career from, from, from, yeah.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: South Carolina baby.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, says Kathy, he's gone.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Come and embraces here, her like beautiful, beautiful work.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing for me, I don't know what you talking about saying it's PG because

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: when our friend Jane is in her car and, uh, it's, it is, I was, uh, like the innuendo

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: runs thick.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: If you, if you want, I'll get behind you and push.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready for me?

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's like, we all know what happened.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a great moment.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a, it was a great moment.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And, and finally I'll say, I really love the pretty woman sequence.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I liked that they could afford the song and I thought it was just gosh, darn adorable.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That was, I, they put like, there's a Coldplay song in this movie.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: There's pretty woman by Roy Orbison.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they spent money on this.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They, they put money behind it.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about it.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Besides, despite starting the movie with a, once again, really bad version of Jingle

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Ball Rock.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where they found it, but it was really bad.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Just go back and listen to it.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, what's happening here?

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Alonzo.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, apart from Lacey's performance, which I think she is,

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: she emerges from this unscathed and she is giving it all she's got.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And, and I, I respect the craft.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mainly was just kind of enjoyed by like Russell Hainline, the writer, clearly amusing

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: himself with inside jokes.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Who here remembers the 1970s novelty song, The Streak by, um.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Ray Stevens.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_02]: By Ray Stevens.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yes.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: They called him The Streak.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I know that one.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That one.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, who is the woman who witnesses The Streaker in that song?

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Ethel.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Ethel.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_02]: My bad.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Ethel.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why she's named Ethel in this movie.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I know what that is.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Margaret!

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He has a separate song called It's Me Again, Margaret.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That's on me.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Ah, okay.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't look Ethel.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember it now.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So I like the Ethel joke.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I like, you know, when, when Lacey says, what am I, the queen of Aldovia?

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is a reference to the, the, the, uh, whichever one.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Either the princess switch or the Christmas prince.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of them.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, they go a little heavy on the Netflix inside references here.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: The Lindsay Lohan joke, the, the, the, the watching single all the way.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, everybody calm down.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, I thought the pretty woman stuff was funny.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like reenacting the jewel box snap, the look on his face when she bites into the snowman

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: cookie, like there are some fun gags along the way, but, oh, and then ultimately I did

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: write down the dance at the end is far more intricate than the one in groomsmen.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it is.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it is.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Until you squint and he realized that he's doing like thriller with middle schoolers and it's

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: like, what's happening here?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, look, it's more, more effort put into it than, than those.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's true.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, I, uh, they, Netflix has done this whole, like they're watching Netflix Christmas

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: movies and like every movie for the past few years, but her looking at the Lindsay Lohan

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: movie and saying, I think I went to high school with that girl that I didn't see it coming

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was so fast and it made me laugh.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That was funny.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the first time that one of those has happened and I'm like, oh, that's good.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They did the thing.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's funny.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, that particular one really worked on me.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it coming.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't write anything down, but I'll take all of those.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He's doing an all play.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, let's take a quick break.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to the weight.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and the, what the hallmark here on the hallmark.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back everybody.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking hot frosty.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the weight.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And a heads up.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever anybody says here in the way, what I'm just going to say, same for me.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Double.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know it was an option.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it was an option.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you rather me do that or say I searched my heart and found nothing when my heart was

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: searched and then all of a sudden I found something.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: No, let's do the weight.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: What's, uh, let's talk about whether this movie is going to weight.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What's, and, uh, I'm going to start with you, Alonzo.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Alonzo.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, sure.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, obviously in a, in a movie in which a snowman comes to life, obviously there's a

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: lot we have to kind of take off the table.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but, uh, the first thing I wrote down was that's a real cutesy typeface for an oncology

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: report.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if you noticed this, but when he, not only does he find the husband's

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: medical records, but it all looks like it is, they picked the typeface you use to like tell

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: people about the girl scout bakes it.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Here is my oncology report, a pitch deck that I'm giving you.

[00:33:51] Yeah.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like I'm surprised they, they, they didn't, you know, like put little hearts and, and

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: smiley faces on, you know, hematoma or whatever.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, that was a, that was a weird choice.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the fact that now I, I, unlike the two of you have never worked in, uh, the public

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: school system or in any school system for that matter.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And unlike Jack's, I do not like work teaching young people on the regular, but I'm kind of

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: sure that a guy with no identity and no secret social security number is going to be welcomed

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: into, into the junior high to like help out and interact with them.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have many Alonzo.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We got to talk about this briefly.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, this is a, to call this a random adult male is maybe the kindest version of what he

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: is.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, this is a random adult male that is decorating for the middle school dance.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_04]: No one has checked an ID and then he has taught choreography to these middle school children

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: with whom he is now dancing.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And is asked to be a chaperone.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And at no point does any of the teachers walking around go, Hey, who is this guy?

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Who knows this guy?

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what?

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Some teachers are going to be like, Hey, who is this guy?

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And they'll be like, Oh, it's such and such as friend.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_04]: They did a full, listen, you got to have a background check to do anything.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The idea that a grown man, once again, as nice, a random grown adult is as nice as we can be

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: here, uh, is teaching middle school children choreographed dance without fingerprints or

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: an identification.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, wait until they find out he doesn't have fingerprints.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And here's the thing is if the whole movie is as wackadoo as Craig Robinson is, nobody

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_04]: blinks an eye because then everybody joins into the dance and we don't know who taught

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_04]: it or where it came from.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But if we're taking ourselves seriously, if Lacey Chabert is crying about her dead husband,

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: then we have to talk about the fact that they let a predator into the middle school.

[00:35:53] I guess.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think there's got to be some, somebody, one form has to be filled out somewhere.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You brought it on yourself.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Hot frosty.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then finally the resuscitation scene at the end, they give up real quick.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like, I get this guy probably doesn't have a heartbeat or whatever, but they

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: just sort of like, they dump him in the snow.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't even like pile more snow on him or anything.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And they just like, yeah, I guess he's dead.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, back to the party.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: MBD.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That is what it is.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He was barely alive.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's barely alive.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I only had one outside of those ones and it's at the end of the movie we see, it kind of pulls

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: back on the town village and we find out that there is a dinosaur snow sculpture and that

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: should be knocked down immediately.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: After hot frosty comes to life, it's going to be a problem if someone puts a scarf around

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_01]: that bad boy.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because hot frosty is nice doesn't mean that the snowman dinosaur that comes to life

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: will also be nice.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And good luck, Craig Robinson.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Dan?

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Jax hasn't gone yet.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Do I get to?

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she gets to.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No, you go ahead.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I accidentally left the chat.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I only have two little ones that are more just questions.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I never get very hard hitting with these.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So in the very beginning, do you guys know Chrishell from Selling Sunset?

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure don't.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So she's absolutely gorgeous.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, that woman with her daughter in the beginning looks like Chrishell.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That's so funny.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is Chrishell.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's strange to me because I feel like that should have been a cameo that either had

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: a joke or had like an actual real line or something.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It felt strange to me that they utilized her in that way or didn't utilize her.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even know that was a select.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I just thought it was a background.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I didn't think anything of it.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what?

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was strange.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I had written down, first of all, yeah, Craig Robinson, we've all said it, but

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: he's really, really funny in this movie.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Love his performance.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: At one point, I wrote down that I love the homoeroticism between him and when he's like,

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and the snowman.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, oh, like I want to see more of that.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it didn't happen.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Did I make that up?

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, was he saying how sexy he was?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Between Craig Robinson and the snowman and Dustin Milligan?

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I wrote, oh, Craig, I wrote, Craig thinks the snowman is sexy.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, love it.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Hot.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe that was just me.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_02]: When they're eating ice at each other, maybe?

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There was another moment where he was like, oh, look at him or something.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I just, maybe I made it.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So no one else caught that.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's cool, Jax.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You may have picked up on something that we missed.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you're the only one who is right about this.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I doubt it.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in your defense, he is hot frosty.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who can, who in a moment has not looked at hot frosty?

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hot frosty.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come on.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hot frosty.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hot frosty.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Those hip flexors?

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You said it.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Just say what you will.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Or whatever they're going to have.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Hip flexors.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Dana?

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You can go ahead and delete.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm already backspaced out of hip flexors.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a big deal.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Craig Robinson has a flip phone in this movie, which is great.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's a wait, what in any movie that is not that character?

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do need to point it out.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_04]: The man uses a flip phone.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like an old QWERTY, not QWERTY, T9 word flip phone.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he's got.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: How's that photo going to get onto the murder board now?

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That photo is not going anywhere.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no, it's, you know, it's one, you know, kilobyte.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not 2011.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Why the inconsistency?

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know we, at least even in the chat was like, you're trying to make sense out of

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: a movie where snowman comes to life.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is more than fair, but also them's the brakes.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the job.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're telling me he melts in hot spaces, you have to be consistent with that.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And they fundamentally are not.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_04]: My man tries on four different suits.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: If I try on suits, I'm melting.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He, he cannot be in that room that long trying on suits for a montage.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: If he melts when it gets hot, he can't, he's decorating in the ballroom.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_04]: It only, they only mention he's melting when it services the plot of the movie that they

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_04]: don't do.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_04]: They're not consistent with it at all.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He hangs a light where there's a roaring fireplace.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So like, if he's going to be a guy that melts when it's hot or it's above freezing,

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_04]: you can't, you can't.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Makes you wonder how hot's the, the jail.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: How hot's they got it in there?

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Sweltering.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause he tried on.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: They show the thermostat on the wall, I think.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a thousand degrees.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, he was trying on suits.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, you're, you're totally right.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it works.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The idea that like, because Lacey's house is clearly so freezing cold as it's established

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: in the very beginning that he would be comfortable there.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't really, they don't keep that going anywhere.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't, they don't even try.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was like disheartening for a movie where they spent this much money.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And then lastly, Lacey Chabert clearly has so much spending power on her credit card for

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_04]: everything aside from fixing the heat.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: She has used her credit card or hot frosty has for thousands of dollars worth of things

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_04]: on Amazon.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And it went through no problem, but she can't afford to fix the heat.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: She like, listen, that would be like number one.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_04]: You'd be like, if I have to go in debt to fix the heat, I'm going in debt.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_04]: If I've got room on my credit card, I can't freeze.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got to fix the heat.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But like they go all movie buying jewelry and all kinds of stuff.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's like the heat we couldn't, you know, and by the time she's in love with

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_04]: frosty, then I get it.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's a big window before then where clearly she had the money to fix the heat

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and just wasn't doing it.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Daniel, she's a diner owner.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like she is in touch with like repair people or anything.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: No, she would have no way to even try to go about fixing the heat.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I will say this for all of the greatness that is Lacey Chabert's performance.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a lot of Lacey Chabert making her someone that to quote her best friend can

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: barely take care of herself is the biggest stretch that Lacey Chabert will ever have

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_04]: to play in a movie.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_04]: That is just not ever a characteristic of her in these movies.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was wild as well.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for What the Homework is where we wonder what could have been.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if it gives us a clear any questions that we still have.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Jax?

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what could have been at all?

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I think leaning into what all of us are saying, watching the outtakes, I was like,

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to watch this movie.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I would have loved to have seen James, the woman who got all horned up over Hot

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Frosty, make her own little snowman and then try and bring him to life.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's so much potential there.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't come to fruition.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You wanted a Christmas weird science.

[00:42:49] Yes, I did.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly right.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Alonzo?

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And they can do it.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Bring it next year, baby.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And Lisa will tell me I'm overthinking this.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But this movie ends with Lacey Chabert falling in love with a man who knows nothing about

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: life or the world except what she tells him.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that if the genders were reversed, people would be like, what kind of sick, twisted,

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like, you know, male fantasy is this that, that, you know, that, that he winds up with this

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: completely supplicant and trusting, you know, love object.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what we have here because it's not like when she makes him human, he suddenly

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: has a life's worth of experiences or opinions or anything.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He is still the same, like, happy birthday guy.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, so yeah, so Lisa Chabert's kind of a monster now because she's just going to manipulate

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: this guy for the rest of his life.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to go along with it because he has no real will or knowledge of his own.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why, Lee Hodo, but can I get that happy birthday clip for every happy birthday,

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_04]: every double-decker happy birthday from now until eternity, please?

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_04]: It's true.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Please.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It really is the, it's the while you were, it's the while you were sleeping problem,

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Melanzo.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that guy?

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't sell the script until he changed the genders.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, yeah, done and done.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We're good.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Easy.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're good.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they never made another script ever again.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And Bran has lost sleep over it.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You work so hard.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You write a script.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It gets made.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a hit.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You never do it again.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess my, my question is just about like, I would love to hear about the making

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: of this movie from original idea to what we saw on screen.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you are likely correct.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I imagine there were a lot of hands in this pot.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would just like to, like to hear a little bit more about the original, the original script

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that may have, may have been.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The lore around this movie is that he came up with the idea as a joke.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they were like, oh no, no, you should actually make that.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's how this movie happened.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But also I, I don't know Russell Heinlein, but for after Santa summit, we like follow each

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: other on Twitter and we talk to each other occasionally.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And he seems like the best guy and we got to have him on the podcast at some point.

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But the Santa summit is more consistently bonkers than this movie is.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The Santa summit has some really wild.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's Erica Tuvle in a Rudolph suit on a rickshaw.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like there are some like, like pure gold and you know that Russell Heinlein is

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: the originator of that.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And so this movie clearly had Netflix making it to its liking.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is unfortunate.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it lessened, it watered down, it watered down the product.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_04]: My, were you done?

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_04]: My what the flicks, no longer a podcast.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's breakfast all day.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_04]: My what the flicks is, uh, the two, the old couple, the woman that gives her the scarf,

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_04]: did they know it worked on inanimate objects?

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great question.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Did they like, like they seem on like unfazed by the fact that she threw the scarf on a,

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: on a block of ice and it, it came to another, another scene that was missing was them finding

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: out that she immediately gave the scarf away.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Them being like, yeah.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, you gave it away?

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But the, yeah, the idea.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They watch her walk outside and make it half a block before putting it on a snowman.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Because she, like what the, yeah.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It probably smelled like mothballs.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But she just, she goes along with like, oh, you put the scarf on the, you put the scarf

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: on the snowman.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that makes perfect sense.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And I like, was that part of the lore is, is her husband, a former inanimate object?

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I like, I don't know.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: What are we, you know?

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And then also your point about if he is more of like an all knowing frosty and comes along,

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_04]: yay, super hot, but he ends up giving her sage advice and then riding off into the snow

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_04]: sunset that lead like lends itself for fun, wacky sequels where the, as this does not.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was kind of disappointing.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We did it, everybody.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations to us.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Next week, we're going to head over to The Merry Gentleman.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Heading to the, the revue.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The revue.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The revue, as we call it.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The revue.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be watching this movie like this, you know?

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We're watching this from together.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Didn't we already say we were?

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Was that the plan?

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You told me we were watching this together.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have to.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's fine.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember having this conversation.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally all right.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we had it on air, but it's great.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like because of the sexies?

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you said something to the effect we're watching this together, right?

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I guess.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we will talk about it next week.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you'll join us and then hopefully you'll join us also tomorrow for another full

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: week of Hallmark reviews.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Until then, maybe the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.

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