Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) ft. Ryan Pappolla

Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) ft. Ryan Pappolla

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Snoke is back on his BS, trying to seize military control of the galaxy. While Leia things they have a chance to fight back especially if Luke returns. Who can really say for sure. 
Poe is like why wait for Luke? Let's get out there! So he goes and tries to launch a counter strike against the First Order. Leia isn't having it and she tells him to disengage. He does not and with the help of some others from the resistance, destroys a First Order dreadnought and gets outta there via hyperspeed. Snoke is not pleased. 

Meanwhile, Rey hands Luke his lightsaber which he promptly throws it down the mountain. He's like I'm not coming, there's nothing I can do. Did you think I was just going to come back and magically save the day? It's not gonna happen. But Rey doesn't give up. She just follows Luke around the island for a while until Rey ends up feeling the force draw her to this cave with books - the original jedi text. It's at this point that Luke realizes that Rey may be special. 

Poe gets back to the base and Leia is not pleased with him, and it goes from bad to worse because the first order has tracked them down through light speed. Leia orders Poe and the otherrs to get back out there and fight them off. Kylo Ren, feeling the pressure from Snoke, is out there leading the attack, piloting his own ship. He is about to blow their ship up when he realizes that his mom is on board and hesitates. But one of the other pilots shoots and causes and expolosion which sends Leia flying into space. She is able to use the force to get herself back to the ship where the crew works to save her. 

Luke continues to say "nahhhhh" to Rey until R2-D2 shows up and convinces him to train Rey. But he's not happy about it and tells her that this training will show her why the Jedi needs to end. 

Finn is beeboppin around where he bumps into a mechanic named Rose. They figure out where the tracking device must be and Finn knows how to get them there. They take the plan to Poe and he says lets go for it. 

Back on the island, Rey and Kylo Ren begin communicating via the force. This chat is cut short when Luke Skywalker takes her away to give her her first lesson. He attempts to teach her how to feel the force and control it. Rey is able to see visions some small pebbles begins to float. She did it! 
However, she soon sees a vision of herself being pulled toward a dark pit. Luke yells at her, telling her to resist it. She does not. Suddenly water snaps Rey out of the vision. Luke says she saw the dark side of the Force, and she didn't even try to stop herself. He is very disappointed in her. He has seen this raw power once before and it did not end well. 

Luke explains that the last time he saw Kylo Ren, Young Ben as we call him around here, he was his student. He took him to train him in the force but Kylo gave in to the dark side and attempted to kill Luke by having a hut collapse on him. She tells Luke that he didn't fail Kylo Ren, Kyle Ren failed him.

As Rey and Kylo continue to connect, Kylo tells Rey that Luke saw the power growing in Kylo and had attempted to get rid of him before he got stronger.

There's this whole journey that Finn and Rose go on at a casino and these giant cat things. They meet DJ who overhears the two of them needing a code-breaker, and he offers his services. 

Rey has another conversation with Kylo and he tells her that what Luke told her is not true. He made that hut collapse because he woke up from slumber to see Luke holding a lightsaber over him, getting ready to kill him. They reach their hands out to each other and they touch hands Neil Dimond style. Sweet Caroline. 

Luke senses this and puts a stop to it. Rey confronts Luke over what Kylo told him. They fight a bit and then he explains that he could sense that there was nothing but darkness within Kylo and He did consider killing him but backed out of it, only for Kylo to see him with the light-saber and assume that he was indeed going to kill him. Rey tells him that she could see that all hope is not lost when she touched Kylo's hand and she's going to go to him. 

Luke is frustrated and is met by Yoda. He tells Yoda he's going to destroy the Jedi texts and Yoda is like one step ahead of you and does it and he tells Luke to help Rey. 

Rey arrives on the same ship as Kylo and is immediately taken prisoner. 
Rey tries to get Kylo to abandon the dark side but he's like it's you that will join the dark side. Kylo brings Rey to Snoke. 

Holdo, who is in charge while Leia is recovering, starts to set in motion plans to evacuate. Poe believes she is up to something and he attempts to stage a mutiny. Before his plans can go into effect, Leia appears after waking up and she blasts Poe. Leia allows Holdo's plan to go ahead and off they go. 

Snoke reveals that he created the connection between her and Kylo in an attempt to destroy Luke. He begins to use the force on her to get her to spill the beans on Luke. 

Finn, Rose, and DJ make it to the First Order's ship. They are captured and DJ immediately comes clean about their plan to save himself.

Snoke attempts to get Kylo to kill Rey with his light-saber, but Kylo uses Luke's light-saber to impale Snoke and cut him in half. Rey and Kylo then team up to fight Snoke's soldiers. 

But don't get it twist - Kylo has not given into the light. He says it's time to let old things die and he invites Rey to join him in dark side. He even brings up how she knwos the truth about her parents - they were junk traders who sold her off, hoping that would cause Rey to give in. But she eventually resists.

While that's happening, Holdo sacrifices herself to help the resistance get away. This also allows Finn & Rose to escape right as they're about to be killed. 

Kylo Ren is like I'M THE CAPTAIN NOW! And he orders gigantic walkers to go to the Resistance HQ. Poe leads Finn, Rose, and a few others to fight back. 

Rey and Chewie come down with the Falcon to help which really makes Kylo mad. Finn is about to sacrifice himself but Rose crashes her ship into his to stop him. Finn goes to her and asks why she did it. She tells him they always fight for what they love. She kisses small ones and then passes out. 

It's not looking good. Leia is feeling defeated. Suddenly, Luke arrives. They chat a bit and then he goes to take care of business. 

Luke goes out to face the First Order by himself. Kylo orders they use every blaster they can on him, which they do. When the smoke clear, Luke is there...unphased by Kylo's blasters. Poe sees this and realizes that Luke is distracting the baddies to allow them to escape. But their escape is blocked by rocks. Luckily, Rey shows up to clear the rocks and get them free. 

Kylo goes down to face Luke himself. They duel with their light-sabers, and Kylo attempts to strike Luke with a killing blow, only to realize Luke is a hologram... he still on his island babyyyyyy. Luke tells Kylo that he will not be the last Jedi. He vanished and we see him back on the island. HE finally vanishes and becomes one with the force. 

Rey tells Leia that she can sense that Luke is now gone, and she asks what will become of the Resistance now. Leia tells her they have what they need to rebuild.

On Canto Bight, a trio of stable children that previously encountered Finn and Rose are telling each other the story of Luke Skywalker. Their master comes over to scold them to force them back to work. The boy they had found in the stable goes outside and uses the Force to draw a broom to his hand. He looks up at the sky to see the Falcon flying overhead, and, with Rose's Resistance ring on his finger, he raises his broom like a light-saber.

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_05] Hi, I'm Brian and I love Star Wars! Are you alright? Hi, I'm Ryan and I like Star Wars! I'm Dan and I despise Star Wars and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast.

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_02] Deck The Hallmark, it's this podcast. And friends host this podcast. We hope you like this jolly podcast.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01] You know, sometimes it just hits me that we're doing this on this show. We're doing this on this show. It's Force Fridays, Bram. I know. We've done a bunch of them. I know. This isn't the first one. I know, but it doesn't mean that you... This is the ninth time we're doing it. Ninth time. Yeah, but it still hits you. It still hits you. It still hits. You know what I mean? We're happy. I'm happy. I think we're gonna all agree that it's all downhill from here. I think we agree on that. Well, yeah. Okay, uh oh. You know, no, no, no. Listen, you're not gonna be able to read my face.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01] Or my tone of voice one way or another. Okay. Like, you know, I mean, it's... We're talking Rise of Skywalker and Solo here. So I'm just like, you know. All right.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_05] Get pre-show chatter out of the way and then you'll find out. All right. Right. How are you?

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01] I've been having a lot of dreams about Blockbuster. What does that mean? Dude, that's good. That's a good sign. Blockbuster's in great shape right now. Yeah. It means buy. Buy, buy, buy. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Like, like, buy just current things or specifically buy VHS tapes? Buy the stock. Buy the stock. eBay VHS tapes.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01] Asap. I, uh, I, I've been, like, having this premonition, Ryguy, that we're gonna do Mission Mondays with you and we're gonna cover all the Mission Impossible movies. But somehow, I think you're gonna be here. I think you're gonna be here in person. Every week. Is that crazy that you come down here for nine straight weeks or eight straight weeks? Is that crazy?

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_05] It's probably a long shot, but I mean, who am I to tell you how to feel? That's right. I mean, like... It's called a dream for a week, though.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01] Well, I bet you could save time and be more efficient if, like, for, like, every three or four of them, you wear the same exact outfit. You know what I mean? Like, you wear the same thing.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02] Well, I mean, how does that help, though? If they're, we, if they're removed by a week.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01] I'm just saying you would speed it up.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_05] If I'm gonna make the trip, I, like, you know, or multiple trips, you just want to travel light. You want to travel light. Even if you have a week in between to do laundry, you would still want to travel. You would still want to travel light. You'd want to travel identical, honestly. You want to travel identical.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02] Then why not travel identical for all of them?

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01] You don't get it. You don't understand. You gotta freshen it up every now and then.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. You just go back to thinking about how nice it is to talk about Star Wars. But when do you decide?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01] That it's time to freshen it up a little bit. I'm just saying, it seems crazy, but I feel like you're gonna be here. That's all I'm saying.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm not here to squash dreams.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01] You're gonna be with us all summer. It's gonna be awesome. Well, listen, Dan, listen. Dan, Dan. Memorial Day through July 4th. He's gonna be here all summer.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_05] Dan, I'm always gonna be with you. Like, you know, it's like, you know, but in the literal sense, who knows? Who knows?

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_02] That's right. Yeah. Well, that was a weird thing to talk about. Yeah. Especially.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_05] But yeah, blockbusters on my mind. Blockbuster. And hey, if we were together for. What are the dreams? Well, I, well, it's the one specifically. I woke up thinking block, my blockbuster. Like, Dan, did you have a blockbuster? Oh, yeah. Of course I had a blockbuster. Like, do you remember the layout?

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01] Because I specifically remember the blockbuster. Absolutely.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_05] Every nook and cranny of my blockbuster. For sure. And I was like vividly, vividly in my blockbuster. And then I woke up. And then I was like, I kid you not. I woke up from this dream. And I said, I might go to Greenville nine straight weeks this summer. I mean, like, so it was a trip. A trip and a half.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01] That's what's happening. We should, like, pull the money together to fly out to the last one.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02] That still exists. You know, I just saw the sweetest story. I believe it was on CBS Morning News. And I don't need to get into it. If you guys are going to mock the sweet story, then I'm not going to talk about it. You watch a lot of CBS Morning News? I saw a clip.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01] You saw a sweet story. I saw this. You tune into CBS Morning News for the sweet stories. Do you want to hear the sweet story? Sure. We'd love to.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02] Then you can feel bad about what you're doing right now. Okay. And how you're mocking the sweet stories of the CBS News. I'm not going to do it. No, you have to do it. Nope.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_05] I'm going to leave you wondering. You can't introduce a knife in the first act and not use it by the third.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02] And not let it go off in the third act. Watch this. Star Wars, The Last Jedi. No, watch the sweet story.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_05] I can't tell you. This is a mistake, Brad.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02] This is unbelievable.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01] Shrine Auditorium on December 9th. This is like saying Candyman three times. United States.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02] Okay. So there was a small town, and it was the last. It wasn't a blockbuster, but it was a movie rental store. Family video, if you will. Family video. And this mom would bring in her daughter who had Down syndrome every single day because they had like six movies that she wanted to rent every day. And they bought the movies. It wasn't good. She wants to go to her blockbusters part of her routine or whatever it is.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02] And so the time finally came within the past year to close it down. And so he took the movies that she liked and moved it to his gas station that he has. And it's a corner of the store that is just for her to rent her movies. It's a very sweet story. It's a very sweet story. And you guys didn't want it. No, I...

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_05] That's a mischaracterization of what Dan and I were doing.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01] I ridiculed the intro.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_05] It's a sweet story for the CBS Morning News. We love the story and we love the CBS Morning News. The story was wonderful. It's a sweet story.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01] We would never say a thing bad about the CBS Morning News.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02] It's a sweet story. Stalwarts of journalism. They do. Journalism. There's one guy there, and I don't remember his name, but he does the sweet stories. And I like watching them. Okay. They're sweet stories.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_05] Hey, you're a pretty sweet story to me.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02] December 9th.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_05] Ryan's always here. That's what he said.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01] That's the thing you need to know about. He's always with us. He's giving the great commission over there. All right.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03] December 9th, 2017, the Shrine Auditorium.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02] And then they open it up to the rest of us on December 15th, 2017. And it went a little something like this. Snoke is back on his BS, everybody. He's trying to... Thank you. He's trying to seize military control of the galaxy while Leia thinks that they have a chance to fight back, especially if Brother Luke returns. Who can really say for sure? I'm sure it'll all turn out fine.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02] Poe is just like, well, uh... Wait. Poe is like, wait, why wait? Oh! Poe is like, why wait for Luke? Let's get out there ourselves. So he goes out there. He tries to launch a counter-strike against the First Order. Leia's not having it. She tells him to disengage. He does not disengage. And with the help of some others, he's able to destroy a First Order dreadnought and gets out of there via hyperspeed. Snoke, not pleased by this.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_02] Meanwhile, Rey hands Luke his lightsaber, which he looks at and then promptly throws it over his shoulder down the mountain. He's like, I'm not coming. There's nothing you can do about it. Did you think I was just going to come back and magically save the day? It's not going to happen. But Rey doesn't give up. She just follows Luke around the island for a while until Rey ends up feeling the Force draw her to this cave with books, the original Jedi text.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02] And it's at this point that Luke realizes that Rey may be special. Poe gets back to the base. Leia is still very upset with him. And it goes from bad to worse because the First Order has tracked them down through hyperspeed. Leia orders Poe and the others to get back out there and fight them off. Kylo Ren, feeling the pressure from Snoke, is out there leading this attack, piloting his own ship.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02] He is about to blow their ship up when he realizes that his mom is on board. And he hesitates for just a second. And that's long enough for another one of the pilots to come in and shoot, which causes an explosion, which sends Leia flying out into space. She is, we think that she's dead, but she's not. She uses the Force to get herself back to the ship where the crew works to save her.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02] Luke continues to say nah to Rey until R2-D2 shows up and convinces him to train Rey. But he's not happy about it. And he tells her that this training is just to show her why the Jedi needs to end. Finn is bebopping around when he bumps into a mechanic named Rose. And they figure out that there's a tracking device, where the tracking device must be, how they were able to find them. And Finn knows how to get them there.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02] And so they take the plan to Poe, and he says, let's go for it. Back on the island, Rey and Kylo Ren begin communicating via the Force. The chat is cut short when Luke takes her away to give her her first lesson. He attempts to teach her how to feel the Force and to control it. Rey is able to see visions and small pebbles begin to float. She did it! However, she then sees a vision of herself being pulled towards a dark pit.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_02] Luke yells at her, telling her to resist it. She does not. Suddenly, water snaps Rey out of the vision. And Luke says that she saw the dark side of the Force, and she didn't even try to stop herself. He's very disappointed in her. And he has seen this raw power once before, and it did not end well. Luke explains to her that the last time that he saw Kylo Ren, young Ben, as we like to call him around here, YB. YB.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02] He was his student, and he took him to train him in the Force, but Kylo ended up giving away to the dark side, and they attempted to kill Luke by having a hut collapse on top of him. She tells Luke that he didn't really give him a chance. Kylo Ren could, maybe there was something to him, and that Luke didn't fail Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren failed him.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02] As Rey and Kylo continue to connect via the Force, Kylo tells Rey that Luke saw the power growing in Kylo and had attempted to get rid of him before he got stronger, and that's ultimately what happens. There's this whole journey that takes place with Finn and Rose. They go to this casino. There's this giant cat things. They meet a guy named DJ who overhears that they're in need of a code breaker, and he's like, I can do that.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02] Rey has another conversation with Kylo, and he tells her that everything that Luke has told her about him is not true. He made the cut collapse because he woke up from his slumber and saw Luke holding a lightsaber on top of him, so he did it to protect himself. They reach their hands out, and they touch hands, Neil Diamond style, sweet Caroline. Luke senses this and puts a stop to it. Rey confronts Luke over what Kylo told him.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02] They fight a bit, and then he explains that he could sense that there was nothing but darkness within Kylo, and he did consider killing him but backed out of it only for Kylo to see him with his lightsaber still drawn and assume that he was indeed going to kill him, so yeah, it did kind of happen the way that he said it did. Rey tells him that she could see that all hope is not lost when they touched hands. She's not going to give up on him. Luke is frustrated by this and is met by Yoda. The ghost of Yoda keeps me away.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02] He yells at Yoda that he's going to go destroy the Jedi text, and Yoda's like, one step ahead of you, cowboy. And he lights that whole thing on fire, and he tells Luke to help Rey. Rey arrives on the same ship as Kylo Ren and is immediately taken prisoner. Rey tries to get Kylo to abandon the dark side, but he is like, it is you that is going to abandon and come over to the dark side. Kylo then brings Rey to Snoke, who once again is back on his BS.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02] Holdo, who is now in charge while Leia is recovering, starts to put a plan in motion to evacuate. Poe believes that she is up to something, and he attempts to stage a mutiny. Before his plans can go into effect, Leia appears. She's back. She wakes up, and Leia allows the plan to evacuate and all that to go as planned, while Holdo stays back, just in case.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02] Snoke reveals that he created the connection between Rey and Kylo. In an attempt to destroy Luke, he begins to use the force on her to get her to spill the beans about Luke. Finn, Rose, and DJ, they make it to the First Order ship. They are captured, and DJ immediately comes clean about their plan in order to save himself and make some money along the way. Snoke attempts to get Kylo to kill Rey with his lightsaber,

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02] but Kylo ends up using Luke's lightsaber to impale Snoke and cut him in half. Rey and Kylo then team up to fight Snoke's red boys. But don't get it twisted. Kylo is not given in to the light. He says it is time to let the old things die, and he invites Rey to join him in the dark side. He even brings up how he knows the truth about her parents, and he knows that she knows it too. They were junk traders that sold her off,

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02] hoping that this would cause Rey to give him to the dark side, but eventually she leaves. While all this is happening, Holdo sacrifices herself to give the Resistance time to get away. This allows Finn and Rose to escape right as they are about to be killed. Kylo Ren is like, I'm the captain now! And he orders the gigantic walkers to go to the Resistance HQ, as we're calling it. Poe leads Finn, Rose, and a few others to fight back. Rey and Chewie come down with the Millennium Falcon to help things,

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02] and that makes Kylo really mad. Finn is about to sacrifice himself, but Rose crashes her ship into his to stop him. Finn goes to ask her why she did it, and she tells him to always fight for what you love, and not do things because you're angry, but do the things because of what you love. They kiss small ones. Very small ones. And then they pass out. Not they, she. Yes, yeah, yeah. And then she passes out. That's right. He does not pass out. He does not.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02] It's just good that it happened finally. He didn't. Talk to kiss big ones, and you're about to pass out. That's exactly right. It's not looking good. Leia's feeling a bit defeated. Suddenly Luke arrives, looking awesome with a silhouette. But they chat for a bit, and then he goes to take care of business. Luke goes out to face the First Order by himself. Kylo orders that they use every blaster that they can on him. And what do they do? They use every blaster they can on him. And when the smoke clears, Luke is there, unfazed. I know.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02] Luke Skywalker lives. Unfazed by Kylo's blasters. I'm still standing. There's another one. There's another one. Po sees this and realizes that Luke is distracting the baddies to allow them time to escape. But their escape is blocked by rocks. Luckily, Rey shows up and clears the rocks with the Force and gets them free. Kylo goes down to face Luke himself. They duel with some lightsabers.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02] And Kylo attempts to strike Luke with his lightsaber. Goes right through him, and he realizes that Luke is a hologram. He's still on the island, baby. Luke tells Kylo that he will not be the last Jedi. He vanishes, and we see him back on the island. And he finally vanishes for real, for real, to become one with the Force. Rey tells Leia that she can sense that Luke is now gone. Oh, that's the end of the music.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02] And asks what will become of the Resistance now, and Leia tells her that they have to rebuild. And the movie ends when we see some kids that are telling the stories of the Skywalkers and seeing hope in the sky above them. And that, my friends, was the Star Wars Episode 8. The Last Jedi.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01] Colon. Forgot the colon.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02] I forgot the colon. I'm going to take a break. You're the one that normally does it. I'm going to take a break. I'm going to take a break, and then we'll come back, and we'll break it down here on Tech the Hallmark. That might have been, like, the first time the music's run out, not because of a bit. Yeah. That's right. It's run out before because of a bit. I mean, very small.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01] I know my Redeemer lives, but that was a long synopsis. A lot is happening. Well done, by the way. A lot is happening. The Red Boys. The Red Boys.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_05] He's back on his BS.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02] Snoke's back on his BS. That was good stuff, especially the first time.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_05] I got a good chuckle. Yeah.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02] You think I was kind of forcing a little bit of the second time? The second time you went back to the well one too many.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_05] Forcing it awakens, am I right?

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02] Forcing it awakens, yeah. Okay, it's time for the hot takes where we share our thoughts on this here movie. I'm going to start with you, Rye Guy. What'd you think? Last Jedi.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_05] I want to preface this for the audience, but especially for Dan, that I like Rian Johnson. Oh, boy. Knives Out, good stuff. Knives Out's amazing. The sequel, pretty good. I like Rian Johnson. I can't wait for Knives Out 3. And I also, so I'll loop back our looper back to that. Leave a looper back around.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00] You get it.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_05] So hold that thought for a second. Here's what I want to say because, you know, well, no, no, no. Because the premise of this is that we're three Hallmark dweebs. None of us are diehard Star Wars fans. We all like it just fine. And, you know, we're reviewing these films, right? So who am I to tell a diehard Star Wars fan for that? This is sacred text. They love it with all their hearts.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_05] Who am I to tell them that Luke Skywalker wouldn't throw away a lightsaber, wouldn't try to murder his nephew? If you care about Star Wars and Luke Skywalker is, for all intents and purposes, a real person in your life, and you've waited decades to see him back on screen in a meaningful way, I understand why you would be upset. Now, those things don't upset me. I just watch them as a movie, right?

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05] Like, you know, it's the characters' motivations. But I can understand because there was discourse about Star Wars, obviously, before The Last Jedi. But as best I understand it, someone who's, you know, mostly on the outside looking in, the, you know, the divisiveness that Dan has talked about a lot over the weeks that we've been doing this really started with The Last Jedi.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01] The Star Wars bros hate The Last Jedi. They hate it.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_05] And I think specifically, they hate the Luke stuff. Now, I will say, as someone, again, who likes Rian Johnson just fine, I have no issue with the Luke stuff, as I said. And I think Mark Hamill, I don't want this to get lost, does a great job in this movie. It's a really great performance. Now, what I will tell you is that the casino stuff, that sucks. And the Finn and Rose stuff, although well-intentioned, I understand the purpose that it had to the overall plot.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_05] Bran just did like a, what, a 37-minute synopsis. And I feel like a lot of it could have just been on the cutting room floor. We want to see Finn. My synopsis?

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_06] Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's what he said. You said most of my synopsis.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_05] No, you're a sweet story. Remember that?

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03] I'm a sweet story. Don't try that. Don't try that. Bring it back. You know what you did. You trashed my sweet story. And you said my synopsis is trash.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_05] No, that's revisionist history. Listen, I, it's a lot of that Finn, Rose stuff, to me, just feels like filler that should be on one of the Disney Plus shows. I get the, and there's this, like, episode one is all about, like, currency trade. And, like, there's so much Lightspeed mumbo jumbo in this movie. Like, it wasn't for me. We want to see Finn with Poe. We want to see Finn with Rey.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_05] Dan, your point last week was well taken that that's not necessarily how these Star Wars movies operate just in general. But, like, there's none of that. They introduced several new characters, none of which, personally, for me, really hit. That stuff was a snooze. To that point, Adam Driver. Adam Driver. He's great. But, like, but I, and, like. Do it again. Do it again. Oh, no.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_05] Like, I get that Kylo Ren or young Ben is supposed to be conflicted. And maybe this is me, maybe this is me looking ahead to Rise of Skywalker. But really what the Kylo Ren stuff feels like to me is several different writers writing several different motivations for Kylo Ren and none of them consulting with one another before we actually take any of it to film every single time. It's very hard to keep track of, and his motivations are just murky, but, like, not, like, in a way that I think they were trying to plot.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_05] Just confusing for the audience. A lot of puzzling decisions all the way around in this, but I will say, on the plus side, I like Rian Johnson, and that, like, the Red Room is the best action set piece in Star Wars history by far. It looks amazing. The action is amazing. And whether or not, and for me, again, I'm fine with it. And you like Rian Johnson. He's cool. Well, Knives Out 3 can't wait. Yeah. Can't wait for Knives Out 3. But the Luke stuff in Act 3 is great.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_05] Like, you know, whether or not they should have killed Luke, I think that's open to interpretation. And, again, maybe you didn't like how they were plotting him to that point, but that 15 minutes or so is great. Overall, great high points, but too long, much like my review right here, and too convoluted for my liking. I can give you my rankings if you want.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01] I would love to hear your rankings, Ryguy.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_05] Dan, you're not going to like these. I know I'm not. I got to tell you real quick to pull the curtain back. I thought about changing these just because I knew you were going to yell at me. But ultimately, the audience expects me to be authentic. That's right. And so...

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01] You better be authentic, Ryguy. Don't change for me. Don't do it.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_05] One, Force Awakens. Two, Empire Strikes Back. Three, Revenge of the Sith. Dan, buckle up. Four, Phantom Menace. Five, Return of the Jedi. Six, The Last Jedi. Seven, Rogue One. Eight, New Hope. Nine, Attack of the Clones. Ryan Johnson, happy Thanksgiving. Come on over for Let's Pot a Parade.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01] You should have changed him for me. Wait, where did you have this one? He has it third to last.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_05] I had it six. No, I had it fourth to last.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01] You have it just ahead of Rogue One. Just ahead of Rogue One. Wow.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_05] That movie didn't age well for me since last week. Since last week.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02] It didn't age well last week either.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah, no. I wasn't. Yeah, so the bottom three are Rogue One, New Hope, Attack of the Clones.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01] I'll be a bit... You've got to be effing kidding me.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_05] Ryan Johnson, though. Cool guy. Cool first name. The I is a little unconventional. But it's, you know... The I...

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01] I know you about Knives Out 3 on a scale of 1 to 10 just to help.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_05] Oh, I mean, like, at least an 8.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01] On the day we're recording this, Poker Face Season 2 released today. Oh, that's all right. Yeah, that's Ryan Johnson as well, by the way. BT Dubs.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_05] You like them. I still haven't seen Looper, but I hear it's good.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01] Looper's amazing.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_05] All right, I own a non-digital video disc.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01] Ozzy Man Dias from Breaking Bad, the most popular episode in Breaking Bad history.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_05] Maybe I'll watch it tonight after Conclave. That's a logical double feature, right?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah, Conclave and Ozzy Man Dias is the back-to-back that everyone's clamoring for.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah, that's a big day. That's a good back-to-back. All right, I'm going to make mine shorter. I am more on the outskirts than even Ryan is. I don't know much about the online discourse between the people that love Star Wars. And even some of this, I was asking Dan for clarification while we were watching. This was news to you as you were watching it.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02] It was news to me that people were bothered by the way Luke Skywalker acted in this movie. Not his acting skills, which actually he's learned how to do since the original. Oh my gosh, yes. He's crushing it. Really great in this movie. So I didn't know any of that, and I don't really care. I had a real good time with this movie. It is a ton of fun.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02] I do agree it's skosh on the long side, and if I was going to cut something out, I'd cut out the casino stuff just out of necessity. Even though I wasn't bored during it, it did feel like it didn't quite need all of that in there. But aside from that, I had a great time with this. And you're right. The fight in the Red Room. Are you kidding me right now? When Snoke ends up getting cut in half. Phenomenal.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01] They bring back the line from Force Awakens. I know what I have to do now.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02] And not only is the action really good, but this movie is also pretty dang funny. There's a lot of little funny things that happen in this movie that are supposed to be funny. And so, yeah, I don't know what's not to like about this, to be honest. I don't get all the hubbubs about it. I don't get it. So, yeah, I can't give you a ranking, but I will, by the last one, have it all down. I will go back.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_05] Well, why am I paining myself to rank these every week and get ridiculed?

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02] Well, I need to go back and really get it. You're not going to rank yours. You've got to pray about it? I like this one less than Rogue One and more than the seventh one, which is called Force Awakens. Force Awakens. I like this one more than Force Awakens, less than Rogue One. And then whatever my other one was.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01] Put it in there. Shuffle it in there. That's how rankings work.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02] I will. It just goes in there. I will go back and I will check out my original ranking and then I will have it done for sure by the last one. I just don't want to speak out of school about my thoughts.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_05] Can't wait for three weeks from now. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's going to be amazing.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01] This is my favorite Star Wars movie that's ever been made.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03] Wow.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01] This is not the best Star Wars movie that's ever been made. That is Empire Strikes Back. Empire Strikes Back is perfect. Not a frame to correct. This is my favorite. Rogue One, a little tighter than this movie. Pretty meaningful. This is my favorite Star Wars movie. The first time I saw this movie, I did not know what to think about it at all. But over subsequent viewings and watching it over the years and thinking about it, this

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01] is a Star Wars nerd, Rian Johnson, who adores this franchise and grew up with this franchise. It's older than me. I grew up with it on the tail end. And I was born after Return of the Jedi was released, but watched those movies religiously in my house growing up. This is Rian Johnson getting one big swing at a $300 million movie. And he has decided the most important thing is twofold. It's one, to tell everyone his age that these movies are no longer for them.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01] And two, to give the movie that he got as an eight, nine-year-old kid to every eight, nine-year-old kid out there. And he crushes it. He sticks the landing. He sticks the landing at the casino. He sticks the landing in the red room. He sticks the landing in the opening scene that is a played for laughs prank call. He sticks the landing from stem to stern, from start to finish. His thesis for this movie is Star Wars should be for everybody.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01] If you had told me that when I was five years old, if you had told me that there's going to be a movie that's canon, that's Star Wars canon, where Yoda literally burns down the Jedi temple, I would have said, what weird alternate universe are we living in? But what Rian Johnson posits in this movie is, is that the original Star Wars movie was about people of privilege. Even it was a privilege to be a Jedi.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01] That entire casino trip is about what happens when privileged people amass wealth and amass fortune and amass notoriety and reputation to separate themselves from lesser thans and subjugate those lesser thans. There's a movie called Into the Spider-Verse. It's about Miles Morales as Spider-Man. It is about a person of color, Spider-Man, not Peter Parker, a different Spider-Man for

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01] everyone. At the end of that movie, which I adore. And when I watch with my kids at the end of that movie, Miles Morales says in narration, anyone can wear the mask. You can wear the mask. And my kids, the look in their eyes when they hear they can wear the mask matters because they now believe that they can be Spider-Man. When I grew up, Jedis were either aliens or white guys. That's who they were. And this movie posits that Jedis don't belong to a bloodline.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01] They aren't special. They aren't privileged. They aren't chosen. The guy telling the story, the kid telling the story in the orphanage where they're working every day can wear the mask. The kid who cares about Star Wars now and cares about playing lightsabers now and buying action figures now is more important than the 48 year old guy. And what happens to Luke?

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01] Ryan Johnson had a chance to make a Star Wars movie and he made it for the future instead of the past. And he absolutely effing crushes it. And yeah, Empire Strikes Back is a better movie, but I know, I know, I know that my kids have changed me on this. This is my favorite Star Wars movie and you can't tell me otherwise. Well done, Ryan Johnson. Great job, Last Jedi. Well, how do you feel about yourself, Ryan?

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_05] Well, I mean, I mean, all hyperbole aside, that was awesome. I was then like, you know, so, but that's, I appreciate that lens and brand stopped trying to guilt me into things, but no, that was, I appreciate that point of view. And I think that's great.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01] Well, I wasn't trying to make anybody feel bad about their opinion of the movie, but I will say what this movie does is incredibly special. And also it made me angry that I didn't, if, if Force Awakens is a nostalgia bomb and this movie is for the new generation, why didn't my nostalgia bomb include Luke, Han and Leia together for one single solitary scene? So this movie does make me mad at Force Awakens, like irrationally mad at Force Awakens. It does.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05] I will, I will also say Dan, cause I, and I forgot to mention this up top and is that this, you know, this is the only one of the new trilogy that I've seen multiple times. Well, I've seen it the most and I actually like it a little less with each viewing. And the reason is because, and again, we're jumping ahead and you mentioned this last week, Rise of Skywalker doesn't follow up on any of this, right? So I do, I do think that in a, if we're just looking at it strictly from a plotting and

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_05] story standpoint, Last Jedi is this weird albatross because a lot of stuff from Force Awakens doesn't connect into it and nothing they set up in Last Jedi connects out to Rise of Skywalker.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01] That is 100% accurate. It's weird in my opinion to blame the middle chapter when if Rian Johnson had been allowed to direct the last one, I think it would be held as a masterpiece. I think he could have connected all the dots and made everyone happy. Um, but instead we get JJ Abrams riding in on his steed to basically make fanboys happy in a movie that he even has no passion for. And I don't think we can blame, I don't think we can blame someone trying to make a Star Wars

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01] for the next generation for that, but you're not wrong, Ryan. This movie does look like an albatross after Rise of Skywalker comes out. Now an albatross of good, maybe, but the Rise of Skywalker is a mess of, the situation. And this movie does look like it doesn't belong. And I think Rian Johnson set out to make a movie where all the leads don't look like they would belong necessarily in, in, in some other big hero movies.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01] And I, I think that matters. And I, it's, Rian Johnson was supposed to get his own trilogy of movies. Did you know this? Right.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01] He was supposed to get his own Star Wars trilogy, but then after the backlash of this movie, not the critical reviews, they were like, absolutely not. We've got to save our trillion dollar franchise. Let's go back to the hits. And that, that makes me sad. Also not surprising.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_05] So there's that real quick brand. Sorry. I know we're long, but Dan, where do you land on the Luke motivations of it all?

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01] Like just like, you know, so I, what I love about this is, is that, uh, you know, Rose's character gets to deliver the line. You know, the way we win is not by destroying the things we hate. It's by saving the things we love. Uh, and I think that's the, the, the premise of the film. And also I do want to side sidetrack. I know we're way off the map here, but the only movie that George Lucas has praised of the movies that have been made since he's left is this movie. Um, he's on the record saying it's beautiful.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01] Uh, so like in the original, you know, in the spirit of the resurrection, in the, in the spirit of these movies, this one does the thing it's supposed to do. And I, you know, if you look at Obi-Wan's motivations in a new hope, I think Luke's motivations make a lot of sense. Obi-Wan is questioning why he trained Darth Vader to begin with. And he knows the only way to, to make up for the fact that he trained a monster is to

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01] sacrifice himself and showcase how to defeat the monster. And I think, I think Luke's motivations mirror Obi-Wan's in a very beautiful way. And it works the, for me, I don't look. Look, the ones, if you, if, if I had to take back one scene in this movie, it's Luke Skywalker getting his lightsaber and throwing it over his shoulder. Like it's a, it's a, it's a three stooges film. That was, that was maybe a bridge too far.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01] And I, I can understand how that doesn't, the way that that takes place doesn't track. Like if he gets angry and he's like, I don't want to see that thing or get that away from me, but he does it like it's a three camera sitcom. And, and, and I think that's Ryan Johnson early on saying, beware of what's coming in this movie. But that's the one, one scene that bothers me. The rest of it, I actually am on board with, with Luke.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02] Can you get us back on track with the song real quick, Dan? Can you see any song? No, the song.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_04] It's time for the feels. It's good to be back. It is. It's good to feel right guy.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. The red room fight scene is an all timer. I, you know, Kylo's turned, Dan, you already mentioned it. The fact that they specifically play back the line, that would be right before he kills Han. And it's now interpreted the other way is awesome. Um, it's the best action set piece in star Wars history for me. It looks incredible. Even when there's clearly CGI fire in there by the end, it looks really great. Um, the red boys, there's nothing to dislike there.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_05] It's a, it's a great, great, great, great, great action scene.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02] Uh, listen, uh, I know this isn't a comedy movie, uh, but I, I would, uh, challenge anyone to find me something quite as funny as Poe calling, uh, yeah, I'm still, I'm, I'll still hold like I'm whole. And he's doing these speeches. Like we're going to get you and do all this stuff. He's like, uh, I'm still, yeah, I'm still here. I'm holding. I'm guys comedy gold. That's just good stuff right there. And, uh, did, does it, does it fit? I don't know.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02] I don't care. That's just good. That's just good comedy right there. It made me laugh real hard. Dano.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. Red room is great. The red sand, all, everything out there is a ton of fun. And then when Laura Dern throws the ship through the, all of like basically cuts through all of those ships, uh, that that's a really neat, fun visual graphic. So all of that. And then my, obviously my emotional feels was in the hot take.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02] So there you go.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01] Uh, let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll get to the way weather with a homework here on.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02] Dangle Mark.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04] It's time for the, it's time for the way. What? Never forget.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02] It's time for the, it's time for the way. What? It's where we, uh, talk about, uh, what this movie is going. What? I'll start with you. Uh, right guy.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Snoke looks a little better, but still pretty bad. I mean, it's like, he does look better. He's got a body now. So that was like, cause otherwise there would have been no way for Adam driver to slash it. Uh, but, uh, so there's that, but we won't be seeing Snoke again. So, you know, all right. Uh, not to be insensitive and it's, it's the most obvious one from this movie. And listen, we haven't talked about it. I was going to mention it last week, uh, with rogue one, uh, the news, at least as I recall

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_05] it, uh, tell me if I'm wrong on this Dano, but as best I recall it, I believe Carrie Fisher passed like the weekend rogue one came out. Uh, and so I, but it was right around that she had already filmed all of her scenes.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01] I don't know that, but that sounds right. I can look it up. That sounds right.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_05] I remember seeing rogue one and either it had just happened or I found out literally like later that weekend, um, that she had passed. And so I also had heard Dan that she had filmed all of her scenes for this film, which makes the Leia and slow-mo floating through space all the more puzzling.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01] The Mary Poppins, if you will.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. I mean, you just can't like, there had to be a better solution. Like, uh, it's, I, I mean, I just don't think it, it, it's, it takes forever. It's like war and peace. Like, uh, it's, and so I, I, that wasn't for me.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02] I feel like they're going to be aware that after she died, the scene would be a little confusing to watch, right? Like if she, you're like, Oh, well, I guess, I guess you had to, you know, she, right.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01] I thought when I watched it, they changed all this. And I just looked it up. It was 11 days after rogue one premiered. Uh, so very close. Um, but you know, they, everyone that made the movie is insistent upon, they didn't change anything, which makes it wilder that this happened.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02] Like, yeah, I think if you find this out and then you're like, okay, I, this, it may be confusing for people when the person who passed away dies in the movie and they're like, Oh, my first thought was, Oh, well that makes sense. Cause she, you know, she passed away. She asked passed away. So let's work that into the script. And then they, and then they bring her back. Yeah. They bring her back. They had to at least know that it would be a little confusing for that scene.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01] The first time I saw that, that scene, I was like, what are, what are we doing? I was in the theater and I was like, what are we doing? Why are we doing this? I do in retrospect, like the idea that, you know, there's all of this hint that Leah is force sensitive or whatever. And so to show that how powerful she is, you know, they are pretty straightforward that all of these people can breathe in outer space. I don't mind that.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01] Like they show literally Finn and Rose, like the window, like just breathing in outer space. I don't care about that. The way that they did, it seemed very like operatic at a time. I know it's a space opera at a time where it doesn't feel like that's what is needed there. That seemed to be what they edited. It's like, if we're going to do this now that she's dead, let's do this. Long, like, I don't know.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02] Like a tribute. An interesting choice for sure. Definitely. Like I, if she hadn't passed away a year before this movie came out, I don't like, I don't think I would have even blinked twice at the scene, but the fact that she did made the scene like stick out even more.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_05] And it's probably all just random coincidence happenstance, but all of it put together makes it a little puzzling. Um, and then last one for me, it's kind of wild that Luke thought about murdering even for a moment, his nephew and has been in isolation for like at least a decade plus possibly more, but ghost Yoda only shows up now to give him a pep talk. That's right. Like, it's just like, uh, and there feels like there could have been other moments where

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_05] ghost Yoda could have been helpful to Luke, but I digress.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01] We're not, we don't know. Maybe Yoda did do that, but I think your weight, what is correct? Because Yoda literally shows up for a fun time. Yeah. Yoda's no longer here for sage advice. He's past that. He's here for, for yuck yucks. Yeah. And that's funny. Yeah. For yuck nubs even.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02] Um, I got a kick out of, uh, Ray. She's on the Island now. Right. And it starts to rain. And next thing, you know, she has a poncho on with, and I don't really know. Like, did she, Chewy go, go fetch it, go fetch the poncho. It also means like before leaving, she was like, well, we could be expecting weather. I'll go grab my, did they have a room full, a closet full of ponchos on the millennium Falcon? I don't know.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02] All I know is that one point it starts raining next scene. She's in poncho. And it's just good to be protected from the elements for sure. Yeah. But I just wish that they included the scene of Chewy being like, I can't believe it. I gotta go get the poncho. I can't believe it. Um, and then I also, I understand this takes place a long time ago in a galaxy that's far away. Far, far away. So like, you know, tech, tech's different. Technology's different.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01] Tech is different.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02] Um, but I do love that, uh, at the end they're flying and they're talking on the headsets and I forget even who it was. It was either Finn or Poe gets upset and throws the microphone part of the headset back, which causes the headset to stop mute, which in every headset microphone I've ever seen, if you do this, it mutes your microphone, but you still hear these.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02] But in the galaxy far away, a long time ago, Samsung galaxy far away, it is a, it's a, uh-oh, now it's all done. It's all gone. It's all a mute situation. And so, uh, it's a flip up mute and, and it just doesn't seem like it would be good. Like you could, that thing could go back at any given time because you bump, maybe it's too big of a thing and then you can't hear it. Yeah.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_05] It seems like we've advanced the tech since. That's exactly right. That's why it was a long, long time ago.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02] Maybe we should just mute the microphone, but leave the earbuds still working. Maybe we should. Makes more sense. And they've made the changes and it's just good to see how that tech has evolved over the years. Dano?

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. I just have two. Number one, uh, Luke Skywalker, who is, I, by all accounts at the literal and figurative peak of being a Jedi, like no one is stronger than he is. He's actually on top of a mountain. He can sense and feel things millions of literal millions of miles away. He can fight someone on a different planet. He senses virtually everything before it happens. Did not know Han Solo was dead at the hands of Kylo Ren.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_01] What? I don't, what? That might've been a miss. That was a little bit of a miss there.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_03] Well, it's you.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01] There's a little bit of a miss that Chewie shows up. He's like, wait a minute. Where's Han? Buddy. You, what? You know what the weather's going to be. Like, you don't like it. I wish he would have been like, I just thought I had bad pizza that night.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02] That's when I felt that.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. It couldn't have been true. There's no way. He can't sense that one. That's a weird one. That, you know.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02] Maybe it's one of those things where you feel it, but you don't believe it until you see

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01] I'm not asking you to go into the expanded universe or the canon for that to be consistent. I think that's a pretty easy ask across the board. And then the second one is the master code breaker can break out of prison whenever he wants, and he just doesn't. Yeah. And I, I, I get that. Like, there's a reason for that. And he's, he's swindling them, but I just don't understand. Is he like, I'm going to go to jail and I'm going to hide there until a Mark comes along. I just don't that.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01] Like, it would have been better if he, like, they had something that would have helped him break out of, he just can just like, he acts like he could have done it at any moment. Yeah. And I, you know, I love Benicio del Toro and I actually really like that character, but I, I, I don't understand why he was waiting in a jail. He could have left at any moment unless he just, it was predestined.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02] That doesn't make sense. You got any answers to that, Ryan? I got, I'm, I'm, I'm bankrupt on that one. Okay. All right. Well, I was just hoping I was just hoping because you're Ryan and then directors, right? I understand.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_05] I felt like maybe there's a YI situation. I do like Ryan Johnson.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01] You do and you want that on that.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_05] Hey, listen guys, I like knives out so much. I saw the second one in theaters for that one week. It was in theaters. I got a Netflix account. I could have just watched it at home. I went to theaters.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01] Tell you this. And this is a, I'm going to do my, what the homework first and transition is right. It's time for what the homework is where we wonder what it could have been. Maybe I guess it's a clarity. Right guy. I believe that I honestly, this is not a joke and I call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but knowing Ryan Johnson on Twitter, like knowing how he responded to people on Twitter and trolls on Twitter, I'm not on Twitter anymore, but in that heyday, I 100% was. I believe with 100% of my being that part of knives out is a response to star Wars nerds. Oh, interesting.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01] I believe that all of this family that believes they are entitled to this property. Like he, like this was the next thing he made afterwards. And he's like, you're not entitled to this property. You're not. You were terrible with it. You didn't like use it for what it was worth. You didn't allow others to enjoy the property. So now guess what? This person's in charge of the property. I firmly 100% with every, like, I don't care if there's no evidence.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01] I believe it. I believe it knowing who that guy is in interviews and on Twitter. And then he wrote this movie from scratch and somebody gave me money to write it. He wrote a movie that was like, Hey, this is what I really think of you. I believe that with all my heart. And that's my what the hallmark. Have you ever heard that before? Right guy?

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_05] No, I think it's a really interesting theory. There's a lot of parallels there. I will say, I hope he makes something film wise other than knives out at his last three movies are all knives out.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. He signed that new Netflix, but he makes like, yeah, but I like knives out too, but it's not as good as one. I would agree with you. I think knives out one is a masterpiece. It's fantastic.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_05] So I agree.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_02] I mean, I think my, you actually, I'm sorry. I just very rudely skipped you. So go ahead.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05] No, that's okay. That was Dan's what the hallmark. It's time for star wars, right? That's right.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_01] You're on Friday, if you will.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_05] I have a force and I have a Friday. Yeah. Well, too much violence towards BB eight in this one was by whatever the negative is enforcer Friday. Right.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_02] So we were concerned about him on multiple occasions.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_05] I didn't, I did, I did not like that. Um, and then, but Hey, Yoda was a puppet. So that was, that was a big win. That was a big win. Yeah.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01] He brings back Yoda as a puppet to strike lightning down upon the Jedi, uh, thing, which is just the best. Like, it's just like, yeah. Yeah. He's like, this is how you do this.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02] But yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's really good. Uh, I am going to go star today. Yeah. Call me today. That's crazy. I'm going to go. Thank you. I'm going to go star today. And I am once again, I don't know if I said this on last, uh, on two weeks ago when they show up to the, the Island and we see Luke for the first time. I want to give a shout out to the location scout that found that, uh, that area of land. Yeah.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02] I can't imagine the high that you must've felt scouring islands. And then you come across that and you're just like, this is the, I mean, it's already got, it's already got the stairs built into the grass. Are you kidding me right now? Uh, uh, an amazing, uh, uh, place for all of that to happen. And whether you, uh, agree with Luke's actions or not, you have to at least acknowledge. I mean, I get why he'd hang out there for sure. Are you kidding me?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02] So shout out to that location scout. That's a hard job to, Hey, go find a, an Island somewhere that make it look frigging awesome.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_05] Hey, whether or not you're mad at Luke for contemplating murder, at least he has a nice place to hang out. Yeah. At least give him a good view. Have you seen where he's vacationing? Yeah.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02] At least give him a good view. Right. Make the climb easy for him. And I, you know, I, at least give him some weird people, people, aliens, keeping the Island nice. It's a good, it's a good, it's a good, those are real. They're real. I don't know if you know that.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_01] It was real. That's where they live. That was a real part of the Island. It was a real part of the Island. Yeah.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02] That's what they were looking for.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01] Um, I know I already went, but I want it on the record. I'm Friday this week. And I just, so if anybody's curious, I am Friday.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. Um, all right, everybody, we're going to be back next week. We're going to do, uh, we're going to do solo solo solo two more left.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01] And then it's time for mission Mondays. If you rank either of these movies ahead of last Jedi, I'm going to come up to Connecticut.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_05] I liked solo in theaters. I haven't seen it since. I'll just, I'll just say this.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02] What's the name of the last one? The rise of Skywalker, the rise of Skywalker. I remember loving it.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. I remember you left the theater and you went, I had a good time, but I know that you don't know any, like, I don't know anything. Yeah.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02] I loved it. All right.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03] We'll be back next time. Another one.

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