The 5-Year Christmas Party (Hallmark Channel - 2024)

The movie kicks off at a Christmas party—if you can believe it. It’s year one, and Alice walks into a room full of theater kids. It’s the wrap party for a fresh version of A Christmas Carol that Alice created. Alice is a senior in college and is happy to be finishing with a success. She’s surprised to see Max there. She goes up to the rooftop as it’s snowing, as one does, and Max shows up. He tells her how amazing the show was. He tries to explain where he’s been, but she says, “Don’t worry about it.” Just as they’re about to leave, she asks why he decided to talk to her after ignoring her for the last three years. He replies, “I really liked your show and thought you should know.” They’re about to kiss, but she’s like, “Nooo, this isn’t happening.” They awkwardly part ways.

The next day, she’s talking to her mom and is shocked to find out that the bookstore closed. She needs a job, so she takes a volunteer (unpaid) position at the theater. To help make ends meet, she picks up a side gig at a catering company. And guess who else works there? Yep, it’s Max. After a party, he helps her take the Christmas tree to her place. She asks if they could recreate the rooftop situation to see what happened; they do, and they kiss. But then she’s like, “Okay, so now we know we’re good at that, but I can’t afford any distractions!”

We get a montage of the year. Before we know it, it’s year two. Alice walks into the catering gig, and guess who’s back—it’s Max! While they’re out looking for a tree for a party, he explains that he never meant to ignore her; he was just intimidated by how smart she is. At the party, naturally, it leads to a performance. A bad one, but a performance nonetheless.

Alice is shocked when Lisa from the theater shows up. She confides in Max that maybe she lied about “crushing it” at the theater—it was a complete failure. She says, “Volunteering was a lot harder than I expected. It took so much more of my time, and eventually, I just had to work more and stopped showing up.” Max admits he hasn’t booked anything either and is mostly just bartending. When he finds out she’s spending Christmas alone this year, he’s shocked. On their way out, Lisa thanks them for charming her family into joining the board and tells Alice she’s welcome back at the theater anytime.

We get another montage of the year: Max texting Alice and her not texting back. Now it’s year three, and we see that Max finally booked a gig—as an elf in a print ad. She sees him and is like, “Oh, sorry for ghosting you,” and he’s like, “It’s really no big deal. We’re friends. Just friends. It’s good.”

It’s time to cater together again. Alice’s friend invites her to move to New York, but Alice is like, “Oh no, I couldn’t; I have so much going on here.” Max and Alice have a moment looking at the Christmas tree. They almost hold hands but don’t quite make it. He tells her he has to go back to LA tomorrow for a callback for a big movie!

Alice goes to meet with Lisa, who offers her a real job as an assistant director…paid! She immediately says yes and heads back to the Christmas party with her friends, excited. When she realizes which movie Max is up for, she shares her good news, and they celebrate as friends do—with a big kiss. Afterwards, they talk about whether the kiss changes anything. Max says he’d like to give this a shot, but Alice says, “I’d just be a distraction when you’re about to have your big break. Let’s just keep being smart.” Max is sad. Alice is sad. But what can you do?

We get another year montage, showing Alice never getting to talk to Max because he’s so busy. It’s now year four, and Alice finds out one of the parties they’re catering is a celebration for Max’s movie, thrown by his parents. At the party, Max tries to apologize for Alice ghosting him, but he’s like, “It’s fine.” Clearly not wanting to have this conversation, she tries to go inside and accidentally spills wine all over Daphne Day, his co-star and a superstar. Alice has an idea—they put Daphne to work with an apron, and it ends up being a smash hit with the press. Alice sees Max and Daphne looking at the pictures together—very closely, I might add—and feels a bit jealous.

After the party, Max tells Alice he’s not dating Daphne. In fact, they barely like each other and are just doing it for the press. Alice loves it. She invites Max to come over for Christmas dinner. They spend the night watching Christmas movies, wake up, and spend the day laughing and having fun. He asks her to come with him to LA for the premiere—and also just for life. He says he’s fallen so in love with her. She says she needs to think about it and leaves, but later she says yes!

Just as she’s about to leave, she gets a call from Lisa. Lisa wants her to basically run the theater. Alice suggests they try long-distance, but Max says, “If we wanted to try that, we would have by now. We can’t keep doing this year after year. We can’t keep waiting.”

We get another montage of the year, showing Alice working hard at the theater and loving life. It’s Christmas again, and naturally, Max shows up to watch the show…and to cater. Alice sees him at a Christmas party, and he’s acting all weird. She tells him she loves him, and he tells her to break a leg.

The show is a hit, but afterward, she’s not happy, and it’s freaking her out. This is all she’s ever wanted. She talks to her mom, who tells her to follow her heart. Alice is told to take some sliders out to the alley, where Max is waiting. They both share that success would be better if they could share it together…just like Christmas. They kiss and decide to make it work!
 

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[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, I'm Brandon, I love Hallmark Christmas movies. I'm Brian, I like Hallmark Christmas movies. I'm Dan, I despise Hallmark Christmas movies and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast. Deck The Hallmark, it's his podcast. And friends host his podcast. We hope you like this jolly podcast. Folks out there, the 30th, which means tomorrow's Halloween, which is pretty exciting. Tomorrow's Halloween. We ready for the old...

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: The old neighborhood trick-or-treat, Brian? I'm excited to see what we dress up as tomorrow. Really? Yeah. What are your kids dressing up as? No, I meant for the show. The show, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna be fun. I'm excited about that. We definitely have plans. We always decorate, we always dress up every year. Every year? Yes. On the 31st. We do. Well, typically in prior years, the 31st hasn't always been Sundays and we don't release episodes on Sundays. And so the fact that it's Wednesday this year is big for us, or Thursday this year is big for us. Thursday is big for us.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we have an episode coming out and we just get bonkers. We get crazy. We get crazy. What are your kids gonna be?

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[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The Monster Mash.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The Monster Mash at Floor Field's amazing because you go, the baseball stadium's open, you can ride around the stadium.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: There's all this free candy in there.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You ride around the stadium?

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can get a cart like a ride kind of thing and they take you around the stadium.

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[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Then you also, the adults can have a draft beer, hang out. They have some Halloween cocktails.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't do that though.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You always get a bunch of candy. It's a fun time.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And we were supposed to go last Friday and my kids wanted to be Wolverine and Bane.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Two classics.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the combo that everyone knows and loves.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And we get the outfits out two hours before we're supposed to go because they can't wait any longer.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And my kid's Wolverine mask is cracked.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: We should have opened it early.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a rookie mistake.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Did Bane do it?

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Could have been Bane.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So, the kid's real disappointed.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I run out to Party City and I call him on the phone.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, buddy, there's no Wolverine, but we could do Batman and you could be Batman and Bane.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, yes, yes, that's what I wanted to do anyway.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Not true, but that's what he said.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So, my kids are Batman and Bane.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: He's been giving it a lot of thought.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And most people were like, it's Batman and some other guy.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But then the comic book aficionados all thought it was the best costume of the night.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You could run across somebody to go, dude, that is it right there.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So, there you go.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Batman and Bane is what we are.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Bane is, you know, Bane is not a deep cut, but I feel like in relation to all the other superhero costumes you see, you don't see a lot of Banes.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't see a lot of Banes.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that there was one available on Amazon was shocking.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And when I saw him, I said, he Banes, he Banes.

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[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: What a deep cut.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was great, though.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Halloween's a lot of fun.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about Halloween.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about eating my child's candy.

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[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: What are you going as tomorrow?

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to dress up?

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a surprise.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be a surprise.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to give it away.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You dress up every year for Halloween.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Every year.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't missed a year.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: No, people don't know this about Brian, but he's pretty tough to be around this time of year.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Insufferable, some would say.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But you guys didn't dress up?

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You come into the office and you start throwing around judgments and I don't like it.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We got a clip?

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We got a clip.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a clip from Trace.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, this was October 17th.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You decided on a full-size Big Bird costume.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Which, getting in the door, almost a head injury.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: That was tough that day.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Curious.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You had thrown the hat.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought you guys cared about accessibility.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't even get through the door.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But now we're going to play the clip.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to play the clip.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a good reenactment.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But now that we've...

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And we have the whole office mic'd all the time.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You do?

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is perfect.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Not the kitchen.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Not the kitchen or the break room, but yes.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: All of it.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Video cameras are there.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Video cameras are there.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Dan.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, do you hear that?

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on?

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Did somebody call in the door?

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone's caught in the door.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's Big Bird.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: McCall.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: McCall.

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[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_03]: McCall.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_03]: McCall.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought you guys cared about accessibility.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Take that mask off.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought you guys cared about accessibility.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an eight and a half foot bird costume.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's October 17.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That was some self-respect.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you respectfully are the one that needs to have...

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Get out of my way.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Fair enough.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Love you.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was...

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Love you, too.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we're still doing it?

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We're still on the floor.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Trace.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've got all that.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Man.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have that clip of me trying to sit down in it, though.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: We do.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have that.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, good.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But that had so many F-words in us.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that we were able to play...

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: The recliner's not made for an eight and a half foot Big Bird costume, and we...

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a shame.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Seven and a half?

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: In this day and age?

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: In this economy?

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Seven and a half Big Bird costume?

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Big Bird?

[00:05:45] Big Bird.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: A Big Bird costume?

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Might play.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But an eight and a half?

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Forget about it.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a real deal.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of play, have you played Christmas Movie Magic yet?

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, I have, because I'm undefeated.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: If not, it's available right now.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I've played twice.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Since?

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Since?

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Backthehomework.com slash game.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but since that.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I've played once.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I've played once since then.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I won.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's available, and it's a lot of fun.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm 2-0.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It is an absolute blast.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And Dan's 2-0.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We're really excited about it.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're not competitive at all, but Dan's undefeated.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was busy becoming the billiards champion.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I let him win.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: If you would like to get your own copy and then maybe challenge Dan to a competition,

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: we could try to make that work out.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, virtual competition.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll show up at your house and play Christmas with you.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you want from me?

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the least I can do.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm undefeated.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Any time.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Blitz.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're really looking forward to people beginning to play this.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody gave it that tier, I don't think.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no one gave it that tier.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Dan shows up to play Christmas with you magically.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you play, please tag us on Instagram, at DeckTheHallmark.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And we'd love to see those pictures of you playing and then hear your thoughts on the game.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a lot of fun.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's at DeckTheHallmark.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You can find us on some of those.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to the movie, shall we?

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: The Five-Year Christmas Party is the movie we're talking about today.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It originally premiered on the Hallmark Channel on October 27th.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Also known as This Time Each Year.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We call it both.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We call it both.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Interchangeable.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much the same movie.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: On the Hallmark Channel on October 27th, 2024.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll do something like this.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The movie kicks off with a Christmas party.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: If you can believe it.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's year one.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And Alice walks into a room full of theater kids.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Dan's worst nightmare.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: How dare you?

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the wrap party for a fresh, hot new version of A Christmas Carol that Alice created.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice is a senior in college and is happy to be finishing with a success.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Finishing with a success.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: She's surprised to see Max there.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She goes up to the rooftop.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's snowing, so you go up there.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And Max shows up as well.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He tells her how amazing the show was.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He tries to explain where he's been the last three years.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But she says, don't worry about it.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a big deal.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Just as they're about to leave, she asks why he decided to talk to her after ignoring her for the last three years.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And he replies, I really like the show.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought you should know.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They're about to kiss.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I speak in rhymes all the time.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They're about to kiss, but she's like, no, this isn't happening.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They awkwardly part ways.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The next day, she is talking to her mom and is shocked to find out that Peanut the bookstore has closed.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Peanut, come on.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: She needs a job.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw you were better than that.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: She needs a job, so she takes a volunteer unpaid position at the theater.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: To help make ends meet, though, she picks up a side gig at a catering company.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And guess who else worked at the catering company?

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, it's Max.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And after the party, he helps take the Christmas tree that was at the catering company to her place.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: She asked if they could recreate the rooftop situation to try to figure out what went wrong.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And so they do, and they kiss.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But then she's like, okay, so now we know that we are both good at kissing.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But I can't afford any distractions, so no more of this.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We get a montage of the year, and before you know it, it's year two.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice walks through the catering gig, and guess who's back?

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Max.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Max.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And while they're out looking for a tree for the party, he explains that he never meant to ignore her over the past three years, four years.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He was just intimidated by how smart she is.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: At the party, naturally, it leads to a performance, as one does when you have a catering company full of theater kids.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: A bad performance, but a performance nonetheless.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice is shocked when Lisa from the theater shows up.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: She confides in Max that maybe she lied about crushing it at the theater over the past year.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a complete failure.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She says that volunteering was a lot harder than I expected.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It took so much of my time, and eventually I just had to work more, and I stopped showing up.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And Max admits that he hasn't booked anything out in L.A.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and is mostly spending his time bartending.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_02]: When he finds out that she's spending Christmas alone this year, he is shocked.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: On their way out, Lisa thanks them for charming the family that they were at, their party, into joining the board,

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: which apparently was a big deal, and tells Alice that she's welcome back to the theater any time.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We get another montage of the year, Max texting Alice, her not texting back.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's year three, and we see Max finally booked a gig as an elf in a print ad.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Print ads are the future.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: She sees him and is like, oh, I'm sorry for ghosting you.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, it's really no big deal.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We're friends, just friends.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all good.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time to cater together again.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice's friend invites her to move to New York City, but Alice is like, oh, no, I couldn't.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I have so much going on here.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Max and Alice have a moment looking at the Christmas tree together, realizing that the Christmas tree is a constant that they love in their life.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: They almost hold hands, but don't quite make it happen.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He tells her that he has to go back to L.A. tomorrow for a callback for a big movie.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Shh, don't tell anybody.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice goes to meet with Lisa, who offers her a real job as an assistant director.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Paid position, Brian.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: She immediately says yes and heads back to the Christmas party with her friends, excited.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: When she realizes which movie Max is up for, she shares her good news with him, and they celebrate, as friends do, with a big old honking kiss.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Afterwards, they talk about whether the kiss changes anything.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Should they just be together?

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Max says that he'd like to give it a shot, but Alice says, I'd just be a distraction.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You're about to have your big break.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just keep being smart, not ruin things.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Max is sad.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice is sad.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But what can you do?

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We have another year montage showing Alice calling Max, but never getting to talk to him because he's so busy.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It is now year four, and Alice finds out that one of the parties that they're catering is a celebration for Max's movie thrown by his parents.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And at the party, Max tries to apologize for ghosting her this year, but she's like, it's fine, no big deal.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly not wanting to have this conversation, she tries to go inside and accidentally spills wine all over Daphne Day.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not Daphne Day.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Taui Day's sister.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Two of them just collided.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: His co-star, she, you got it.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, it's Max's co-star and a bona fide superstar.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice has an idea.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They put Daphne to work with an apron over her, so not to show the wine that she spilled all over her, and it ends up being a smash hit with the press.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice sees Max and Daphne looking at pictures together very closely, I might add, and she feels a bit jealous.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: After the party, Max tells Alice that he's not dating Daphne.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, they barely liked each other, and they're just doing this for the press.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice loves it.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She invites Max to come over for Christmas dinner.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They spend the night watching Christmas movies.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They wake up.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They spend the day laughing and having fun.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He asks her to come to L.A. for the premiere and also just for life.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, I have fallen in love with you.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And she says, I have to think about it.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She leaves.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: She thinks about it.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: She says, yes, but you only have an hour because we're leaving.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And just as she's about to leave, she gets a call from Lisa.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Lisa basically wants her to run the theater now.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice suggests that they try long distance.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Max says, if we wanted to try long distance, we would have done that by now.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We can't keep doing this year after year.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We can't keep waiting.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So they go their separate ways.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We get another montage.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Merry Christmas.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: No?

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: We get one more montage of the year showing Alice working hard at the theater and loving life.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Christmas again.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And naturally, Max shows up to cater and also to try to catch her show.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice sees him at a Christmas party.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's acting all weird.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: She tells him that she loves him.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And he tells her, break a leg out there.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing you always want to hear after telling somebody that you love him.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: The show is a hit, but afterwards she's not happy.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's freaking her out.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Why is she not happy?

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This is everything she's ever wanted.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: This, she goes and her mom shows up.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember, her mom is now free.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: She lost the peanut bookstore.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: She talks to her mom who tells her to follow her heart.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe her heart will lead her to happiness.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice is told to take some sliders to the alley where Max is waiting.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: They both share that success would be better if they could share that success together.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Just like Christmas.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They kiss and they decide that they're just going to make this sucker work.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And now, my friends, was the five-year Christmas party.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We did it.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Goodbye.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to take a quick break.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to come back and we're going to break this movie down with four segments, I believe.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: We did it, Rick.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We did it, Rick.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We did it, Rick.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Four?

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Man.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Bold.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Here on Deck the Hallmark.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, Deck the Hallmark.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the five-year Christmas party.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time to break it down with four segments.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start with a hot take.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's where we share exactly how we felt about this movie.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We do not hold back.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And I will kick it over to you, Brian.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Brian, what do you think about this movie?

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This was a banger.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way around that.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't play games.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't play games.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck, Dan.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't play games.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to downplay this one.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think I'm going to play games?

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to skirt around.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And, yeah, I liked it.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't want to say I liked it.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think you're going to play games.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't think I'm going to play games?

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think you will.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No, this...

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: When I...

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a roller coaster.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Brian.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a roller coaster.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Not with something like this.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Not with something like this.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Do I ever play games with my opinion?

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You play games with my heart, and I've been saying quit for a long time.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the heart thing is what's really behind this all.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So just knock it off.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay?

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually felt for these characters.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And the trajectory that they were on throughout this movie, where they flip-flopped their successes,

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of them was down, the other one's up.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt for them in those situations.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't happen every movie that we watch, so that was really genuine.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Zach Hugg.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Ghost of Christmas always, Zach Hugg.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I realized about him, he can create a world like almost nobody else can.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: In this realm.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: In this realm.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Ghost of Christmas always...

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Even Zach Hugg's like, don't say that.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He can create a world like almost nobody else.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Almost nobody.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: In Ghost of Christmas always, like we've said, you could throw anybody into that world and

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: just keep it going.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that idea is great.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Nina Wyman and Julie Sherman, well, if you're listening, don't worry about it.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They could do it too.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not personal.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Zach.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Zach did this one.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We're doing it.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to them.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And how nobody can do it like them.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Russell Hainline.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to him later.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about it.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about it, Russ.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk about how nobody can do it like Russ.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: This is about you.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy and Nina.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just only he can do this.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Choo-choo.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So give a hug for hug.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: With this one, you could keep this going.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you could do this again with different people in this world.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a fun world.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you see the comment?

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We got somebody on the peanut.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Got him.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, perfect.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So really, really great job.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: All we ever wanted.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Early on had kind of.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Peanut was the bookstore.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: This is important.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good stuff, man.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This is good stuff.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It was sort of like How I Met Your Mother vibes early on.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Young group of friends.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Rooftop.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: City.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not like How I Met Your Mother.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Mother.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But those sort of.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Mother.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a mother.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What I kind of wish this.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What I feel like this missed.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A little missed opportunity was.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They could have had some more fun with the aging over time.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Or going younger and being a little more silly.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's tough to think that they're all supposed to be out of college.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So that would have been a little fun.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You could have done some crazy stuff there.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But had a really good time.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Really different than a lot of other movies.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And very good high rec.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: High rec.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This movie freaking slaps bro.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we all knew that it would.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was all one of those movies.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That you watched.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Or you read the synopsis.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: In one of our previews.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: In our kickoffs.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And all that stuff.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And we were like this is a movie.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a high slap potential.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: High slap potential.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And the potential.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think out slapped the room.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I lost it a little.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I lost where I was going a little bit.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It did what?

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It out slapped the room.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so too.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the movie.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie ruled is what I'm trying to say.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely love this movie.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Peanuts.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: What did you say?

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Peanuts.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: The bookstore.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Am I right?

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying it in a way.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So this movie.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: As Brian said.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that they told the story beautifully.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody's trajectory is different.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially in the world of creatives.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you never know what's going to happen year after year.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that they told that story beautifully.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And boy these two have chemistry.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: The sparks just were flying immediately.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that they handled that wonderfully.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Because sometimes the sparks are flying.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not the right time.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, well what do we do about that?

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this time next year.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And the sparks continue to fly.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Another good name for this movie.

[00:20:06] Next year.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Makes a lot of sense.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I just thought this movie had everything.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It was just so heartwarming.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's everything you want out of a Christmas movie.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It worked for me in every possible way.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: My favorite of the year so far.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Holiday and potentially otherwise.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Dano?

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say let's get the good out of the way first.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Here he goes.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Pulling the heart strings.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe I like it.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want the song.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to become a place where opinions aren't validated.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Just mine.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Were we a place?

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The vision statement?

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The good about this movie is that it is easily the best of the Christmas movies so far.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's particularly close.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The cast of this movie is different in the best way.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Diverse.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: People we've not seen on the network.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: How they play with gender roles in this movie is fantastic.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the biggest great about this movie is far and away Katie Finley.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They are amazing.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Every choice they make is the right choice.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You pull for them no matter the scene that they're in.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Katie Finley is an absolute star.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_03]: She's too good for the network.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I say that not even thinking this is her best movie.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Seal with a List is a better movie than this movie.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Katie Finley is unreal.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's unbelievable.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I watched so many scenes in this movie and I went, Bill Abbott would never.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill Abbott would never.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I already got it.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm nailing it.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But thanks for the reminder.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill Abbott would never.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The way that this movie is filmed and the way that they present this couple where she is pretty much the alpha of this couple and the way that they mess with the perceived gender roles of a Hallmark movie is fantastic.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's risky.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's bold.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's boundary pushing.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And I loved every single second of it.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think we talked about with this time each year how my expectation was really, really low and that helped the movie.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_03]: My expectation was this is going to be the best movie of the year.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And that made it a little bit disappointing for me.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And I've already seen the chat and I know that I'm going to get stuff thrown at me virtually.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm sorry.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And in reality, if you're not careful.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You can ask Aaron Shea and Brandon Gray.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_03]: This is not an opinion I'm forming based upon the comments to be contrarian.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I promise you.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_03]: This movie is not, aside from everything I just said, as ambitious as I thought it was going to be.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's more of a quiet romance and there's nothing wrong with that.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very easy story to tell.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I was not as high on the chemistry of our leads in this movie because, and I want to be very clear here.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you okay over there?

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it, is it, Mr. Fisher wasn't my favorite.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I get his magnetism and I understand why people like him.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And I bet in a musical, another big problem with this movie is, is all I hear about how great a voice he has.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just can't believe we didn't get to hear the voice in this movie.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a huge missed opportunity.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just thought he was acting to the back of the room and it didn't work for me.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry that that's not going to be a popular opinion.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I can promise you it's not new.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And I wish I felt differently, but this is not Katie.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Katie Finley has made three movies on Hallmark.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my least favorite of those movies.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the best of what we have so far, but it didn't work for me in the way I was hoping.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it was probably a victim of expectations, but kudos to Hallmark for pushing something new and different, for giving more representation to the screen.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And for Katie Finley, put this actor on in every season that you have.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Please, please, please.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time for all the feels.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about what in this movie gave us feels, Brian.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: When, when Alex finds out that, um, uh, what was his name?

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the fun mafia.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: If everybody's not having fun, it's just going to be that he's just going to be over there.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you don't, you don't look, I don't like it.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: If you.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Should we get music to play Dan out when he's.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we should.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Katie, Katie Finley's character, Alex finds out that Daphne, Daphne Day is going to be in a movie.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Daphne Day.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And the reaction Alex has is what?

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was so perfect.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It was hilarious.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Like everybody clearly heard that in the other room and they came and it was so like perfectly timed and loud.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I laughed out loud and I wrote it down because I thought it was great.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So great.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And then asking Santa for friends was very sad.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And like that whole thing at the table, like kind of worked for me where she talked about how she was weird.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she met her friends and that you find your friend group.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably the best scene in the movie.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It was really touching.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That scene is a really great scene and the best of what this movie has.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was really great.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So that hit me in the feels.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if this has come up at all over the past seven seasons, but I really like an almost handhold or a hand.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the second best scene in the movie, in my opinion.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Not only did the almost handhold work, but I felt like the dialogue surrounding that almost handhold was also wonderful.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe that's what I love about Christmas and the world of confusion and never knowing what's next.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: At least you can always count on Christmas.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was really nice, Dave.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They took my two and I'm not trying to punt here.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the scene where she talks about not having friends as a kid and the scene where they almost handhold are the two best scenes of this movie.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they work wonderfully.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a quick break.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll come back with the way it went with the homework.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Here on.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Take the homework.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, my bad.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my fault.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine if we just went to a fwum, fwum, fwum every time we went to a break.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We might make it more fun.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The listeners would be coming back for sure.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They'd love it.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: A hundred percent.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They'd love it.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to the wait what.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's where we talk about what is the sweet way this go.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait what?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Brian?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Did Big Orange sponsor this movie?

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Big Orange.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Big Orange.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: There was an orange in like every other scene, it felt like.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They're juggling oranges.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of oranges.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They're decorating oranges.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I know what you're talking about.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There's baskets of oranges everywhere.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there were two or three scenes of oranges.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: There were at least three.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It just felt like a lot of oranges.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Most Christmas movies don't have that amount of orange.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a lot of oranges.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And if somebody, if there were a name or a sticker on them, I'd definitely say Decky

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: contender for product placement.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But there wasn't.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just for, in general, like, don't forget about oranges, I guess.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And we won't.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We won't.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you forget about oranges.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you forget about orange.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't rhyme with orange, so that's where it stops.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not allowed.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I know this is a big one.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everybody's probably got this.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: She needs a paying job.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And she jumps on immediately a volunteer position that is, I think, a nighttime thing where most

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: jobs would be like a part-time thing that you're trying to get would be a nighttime job.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of need your night available.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But no, not her.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I think, and this is, I had plenty, so I can just piggy piggyback on you here.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: This is, you have, and we'll talk about it later.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: This movie is borderline making fun of people trying to make it.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, they are borderline patronizing people who are 22 years old trying to pay their bills

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: in a big city.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: With the taking the volunteer job, with the giant apartment, with the pot filler in it.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_03]: This movie is played, like, it's really like, this is how poor people live.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_03]: In giant Chicago apartments.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Across from the theater.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Tops.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That you can go at, like, it is.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Living on oranges alone.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all it takes.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It is insulting to people that have actually have that lived experience.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That is the bit, that's the big weight one of this movie is, is they're not practicing

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: what they preach in this movie.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing about that.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to imagine Hallmark has focus grouped tiny apartments and gotten feedback.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I like the movie, but the apartment was sad.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's the only explanation for how big the apartments are.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: They're just cavern.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They're bigger than my house.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It had a dining room set.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, a college kid with a dining room set?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: These theater kids are living in apartments where the bed folds out of the wall.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That is bottom line.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There is just no world.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a good YouTube channel out there that tours tiny apartments in New York City.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And just to see how they, like, how can somebody live in an apartment where you can

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: literally touch wall to wall.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And I really enjoy those.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So, there's a, I think there's a place for it.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine if Alice goes back to the apartment and literally it's just the size?

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Merry Christmas.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The other one was, why does this catering company continue to buy real trees?

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they know they got to get rid of them every year before, like, when they're done

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: their parties, they just are going to throw them in the house.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it could be like a UPS, which hires seasonal help, you know, every year.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And they bring people back just for November, December.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It could be that you need more help during the holidays.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about the tree, the Christmas tree.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought you meant the catering company.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I get the hiring seasonal help.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They buy a real Christmas tree every year.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a different tree every year.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not just get a fake tree and put it up and put it away?

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a tradition.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't put fake trees up unless your brain loses Christmas spirit.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a fake tree.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But we knew that about you.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Economical.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there it is.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: The environment.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It just seems weird.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: No, not the environment.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you environment me.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good for the environment to buy a real tree.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: To buy a new tree every year, knowing you're just going to throw it away.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to get rid of it every year.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems better to just get a fake tree.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It bugged me.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it bugged me, too.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I bet.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The fakeness.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You all right over there, bud?

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had something in my eye.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't let this episode go by without mentioning the friend's mustache that happened.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the ultimate way.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: For a calendar year, this friend committed to a downright nasty stache.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It was nasty.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that stashes have kind of come back around.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You see people and they're like, oh, yeah, stashes.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like in now.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Not his.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not what that person's stash was.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a nasty stash.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe because it wasn't real.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's because it was so clearly not a real stash that made it even more like, oh, boy, get rid of that thing.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It was so nice at the end of the movie when you finally got rid of that stash.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a big win for all of us, I think.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a huge kick out of when I think it was year four and they had just kind of like had this conversation.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's like music playing, like this guitar playing.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really nice.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, this is nice.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This is nice music.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it cuts to him on the rooftop and he's the one playing the music.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know why, but it caught me off guard and it made me chuckle and laugh.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I really enjoyed that.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Dano?

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You must read it.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I do want to go back to the whole Jordan Fisher not singing thing.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's like some discussion I can kind of see in the comments about like whether or not that was appropriate.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We have people in these movies who can sing all the time.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that they don't sing is not the problem.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is this seemed like the perfect opportunity.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all theater kids.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all doing odd jobs in catering and performative.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It seemed like a no brainer, especially if this guy's going to have this big of a personality.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm supposed to believe that's just who he is.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not buying it.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Having him sing would have really helped.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: These are, as I already talked about with Brian, not the struggling artists are struggling the least.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They're doing great.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: They're doing awesome.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're not struggling at all.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Early in the movie, we hear that she wrote a very different version of A Christmas Carol.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, we loved your version of A Christmas Carol.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a new take that was an indictment on capitalism.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I asked Brian this.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that every, isn't that Christmas Carol?

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't the Christmas Carol, the whole point of it, an indictment on capitalism?

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it wouldn't be new to bring that to that play or that book, right?

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's in the subtext.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, that book is all about how awesome poor houses are.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: They love them.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: There's really big poor house.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is not what would make it different.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The orange represent.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: About any of his books, really.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He's big on wealth gap.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: People think that the whole like, and the whole like, there's too many people, the surplus population.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, yes.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: People think that that's like saying, hey, he's being real bad there.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's actually the point of it.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the point.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get rid of it.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's let people die.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Because then we'll have more.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's big Dickens.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was bold of her to make an adaptation.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Dickens energy.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Dickens energy, for sure.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's phenomenal.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really good stuff.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_03]: They, in this movie, Daphne Day is there, the Daphne Day, and she goes out into the back

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_03]: alley.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And Katie Finley's character, what's her name?

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the character's name?

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Alice.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Alice.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Alice.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Alice spills an entire glass of wine on Daphne Day.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then that glass of wine spontaneously combusts.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It disappears.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not in the scene.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not in her hands.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not on the ground.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's nowhere.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She spills a glass of wine.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And then that glass of wine disappears entirely.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's movie making magic.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The wine ended up on the dress.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And the glass said, I have no purpose.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm out of here.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you later.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I will bid you adieu.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I also think this, one of the big issues with this movie is it's very clear that these

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: characters are not 21 to 25 years old.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think like the hard part for me was imagine, I think these are all 30 to 35 year olds imagining

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_03]: what they would do if they could do 21 to 25 over again.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what it's like.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But it never feels like these characters are 21 to 25 years old, which is the age that

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: we're supposed to believe that they are.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're just not.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03]: They're not that age.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I understand the joke of a slider being a burger.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I understand that those are not sliders.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: They're burgers.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But if they are burgers, you can't walk around with them.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to need to sit down.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: As soon as you give me a full burger.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: How about they're walking around?

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You're eating out of one hand trying to have a conversation?

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They're walking around with plates of pancakes.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: What am I doing there?

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: What about how?

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: This is my dream party scenario.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great party.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's pancake and full burger hors d'oeuvres.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: No napkins, no silverware.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be in the corner with my food.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Just let me live my life.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Just syrup drizzling from his beard.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, instead of fondue, it's a syrup film.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a syrup film.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You're dipping it in and holding a pancake with your hands.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all I got.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time for What the Hallmark is, where we wonder what could have been.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe have we got some clarity of the questions we still have.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Brian?

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll circle back to the dinner where Alex talked about making Santa sad.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I imagine Santa hears a lot of sad stuff sitting there, kids giving their wishes and all that stuff.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But saying, I wish I had friends doesn't seem that sad to me.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up with that Santa?

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on with him?

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Just tuning in to live.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Brian has no heart here.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you say, I need friends.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: What could they say that was sadder than that?

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Aside from, like, I want my parents to get back together.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That one.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe somebody's really sick.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's sadder things.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, can I have some friends?

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's sad.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But we're on the list of sad things that a kid could say.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the guy that wants his kids to live far away from him.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So I can visit them in unique places.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: At least you liked the movie, Brian, because you're a monster.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We liked it.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's on the list, though, right, of sad things?

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very sad.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're saying it's so sad that Santa had to get up and leave.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was that.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's that sad?

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Santa's empathetic.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know what's going on with Santa that he can't hold it together.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's just a empathetic person.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a bad Santa.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He sounds like a bad Santa is what I think it is.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He sounds like a bad Santa.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't hold it together when a kid says I need some friends?

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want your Santa to care?

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but you got to hold it together, you know?

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, for the kids.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine?

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: For the kids, Brian.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The power that it would be for a kid to see that Santa cries to.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have to run away from the kids, leave them hanging,

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: sitting on that huge throne all by themselves, all scared and friendless.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_03]: A kid says they don't have any friends, and Brian Santa's, like,

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_03]: rubbing some dirt on it.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what Santa went through that morning.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on with Santa?

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my question.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up with Santa?

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we get a Santa that can hold it together?

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep it together, Santa.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So on the marquee of this...

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Your public radio show is lousy.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Of the theater for five straight years is the Holiday Film Festival,

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: which sounds like a lot of fun, the Holiday Film Festival.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It sure does.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say it does sound like something that you could actually do on Philo this holiday season.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they have so many Christmas movies.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Finally.tv slash DTH.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: They have your own Holiday Film Festival.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's just not.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's happening, and it will happen every year.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The Holiday Film Festival.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Holiday Film Festival.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: TM.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you do with it?

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Are there movies?

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Because that seems like the theater that the play takes place at, too.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So is the Holiday Film Festival not actual films?

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it just taking holiday films and asking them out?

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my nightmare.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that there's a Holiday Film Festival not showing films.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: With no films?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty bad.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: High school.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Dan?

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't have a ton here.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You can jump on my Santa one.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll jump on your Santa one later.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Dickens energy right there.

[00:38:34] Big Dickens energy.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Dickens energy.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I do would love to know how much approval was necessary in Hallmark making this movie.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that they were quiet enough about it that it didn't appear much different.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a pretty big paradigm shift in Hallmark movies.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how else to explain that.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that what they did in this movie from a standpoint of our leads and expectation of what they should be like and how they should act were vastly different.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of a benchmark for Hallmark.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I want to know if they're just hoping no one notices or if there was any conversation or if Hallmark's just cool with this.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope it's the third one.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Because that was my big takeaway from this movie.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I would like to know more because unlike some other big historic moments in Hallmark that you can't really hide, this one kind of was hidden.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It is, I think, a fairly benchmarked moment.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And I know that sounds crazy.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's my big ask here for Hallmark.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I got.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: We did it, everybody.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: We've got one more new one tomorrow.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to be Halloween.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to want to head over to philofilot.tv.dth to see what we dress up as.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we got a pretty big plan.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's going to be awesome.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You won't be disappointed or underwhelmed at all by this.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So stay tuned for that with the Christmas charade.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Charade.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Until then, may we first wish you a Merry Christmas.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Deck the Hallmark is a Bramble Jam podcast.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's produced by Aaron Shea.

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[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for listening or don't listen.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really up to you at this point.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's at the end of the show.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're listening to me.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Hi.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But here they come.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I promise they're coming.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Here they are.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Happy day.