The Diss List: Best Christmas Movies ft. Alonso Duralde

[00:00:03] Hi, I'm Alonso Duralde and I have a list of the best Christmas movies since 1990. I'm Bram and Alonso doesn't have the best list, I have the best list!

[00:00:14] I'm Dan and Alonso may have A-list but I have the list of the best Christmas movies since 1990 and this is The Diss List! Diss List! Deck The Hallmark it's his party, hope you like this dolly podcast, follow me! Well, hello everybody! Oh boy!

[00:00:42] Welcome to another Diss List and it- Diss List! Diss List! To show everybody how important the Diss List is, we flew Alonso in. We did! We said there we can't do this virtually. You were just here for Bramble Fest.

[00:00:56] I, you know, I had to get back on another plane. Bramble Fest is done today. Bramble Fest is today. Bramble Fest is today. You were here and we were like we gotta do this too. We would never do a bit where we act like Bramble Fest already had.

[00:01:12] We respect the calendar. That's right, that's right. How does it feel to be in Greenville? Here on the East Coast, Bees Coast. Always a pleasure. I mean, you know, I'm having a much cooler summer at home but you know, hey, I get-

[00:01:24] this is what you get when you come to the South so it's a nice trip. It's what you get! Well welcome. We're glad you're here and it's very important the reason why you're here is because

[00:01:33] you have brought a quote unquote best list of movies that came out since I was born basically. Yeah, yeah, essentially your lifespan. Well, we know how much you love lists. Big fan of definitive lists. He even said A-list instead of D-list in the intro.

[00:01:49] But you always come to us with actual cinema, you know, like films that Bram should have seen but they are in black and white so he hasn't seen them. Today we decided what would be fun is instead of you saying these are the

[00:02:03] 10 best Christmas movies and neither of us having seen half of them, do you have to give us movies since 1990? Right. Now is there a chance we still haven't seen them? Yeah, but we've done some research here.

[00:02:13] That does, I will say that does like eliminate some like Christmas vacation, Christmas story die hard. Like there are some movies that are close that are not allowed. How hard was it? I mean not that hard really because I mean this is my area of expertise slash obsession.

[00:02:33] Have you written a book about it? I did write a book about this kind of thing. Unbelievable. And quite a few of those were since 1990 and then of course there were all the ones that were since the book because that book came out in 2010. Yeah, I mean.

[00:02:44] Now how does this list include any Hallmark movies? It does not. That's rightfully so. Did any come close maybe? No. I gotta ask the question. You gotta ask it. No, no. Because he also has written a book about Hallmark Christmas movies too.

[00:02:58] I have and I think there are a lot that are terrific but when I had to narrow down to 10, no those movies did not make it up here. And you know, yeah, we've written a book together. I've been podcasting with you guys for years. We've done other shows.

[00:03:11] I like to think we've become friends over that time. I think so. That all ends today. Wow. Because I know that there is no way I'm leaving this room without one of you Yocals trying to jam Home Alone 2 on this list. What? Home Alone 2's on your list?

[00:03:27] And I'm, yeah, spoiler. So I suspect at some point I'm just gonna have to ask you to tribute this episode to Alan Smithy because I just don't want my name on it. Okay, fairly. That's really good. You got that. I absolutely did. A quick reminder of the rules.

[00:03:41] Alonzo is gonna give us his top 10. After that is all done, Dan and I are gonna be able to make some changes to that list including two switch em up. Two replacements and two flips. That's exactly right.

[00:03:52] And we're gonna pitch both of those lists to Alonzo and then he's going to have to choose one of our lists. Yes. Right. So what I have to decide here is am I playing to win or am I playing to make him mad?

[00:04:06] And those are some things that I have to decide. I've got good news. I've played to win, I think, every episode so far. And I think we've both won one. I think you've got me. I think you're two to one. I think that might be right.

[00:04:18] But it's very close. It's close. Do I care? That's what I have to decide. And so I think where Alonzo's list goes is going to help answer that question for me. I also think then this is good news for you.

[00:04:29] He can't possibly add Deck the Halls Christmas with the cranks and Jingle all the way. He can't add all three. He has to make some tough choices with his crappy movie selection. Oh, I just that was the sound of me dying. Can I just really quickly? Yeah.

[00:04:45] I decked the halls. Wouldn't get played. It wouldn't get played. Okay. You get that. We've been down that road before. I love that you made that distinction like the other two would in your list. They're on the table at least. That's terrible. They're in the conversation.

[00:05:02] You would have been ashamed of yourself. Along with Polar Express. Fans of the show will have already heard brands in my conversation about these very films. So that's right. Y'all know where I land on that. I forgot about Polar Express. I guarantee you that's not on this list.

[00:05:15] Guys, everything's at least on the table. That's all I'm saying. I'll go so far as to say Christmas with the cranks better than Polar Express. That's my hot take. Come on. Come on. That's my guy. That's my guy. That's my guy. Sure. There we go.

[00:05:29] We got him on. Want to get this thing cracking? Why not? Number 10 on your list Alonso. Here we go. File it on TV slash DTH. Oh. Okay. Jingle Jangle, a Christmas journey which Daniel and I did on a film and a movie. We sure did. Yeah.

[00:05:45] This is an original musical for Netflix. It is a multi-generational tale about an inventor and his granddaughter who sort of brings him back to life after he has shut down when a scheming former assistant has stolen all of his toy ideas. This movie is just explodes with color.

[00:06:09] The songs are terrific. It's maybe a little long, but I appreciate the ambition and I think it's a lot of fun. Jingle Jangle, Brandon, you think we were getting that? No. No, I didn't. You guys, I think we're both higher on that movie

[00:06:26] than I was, but I do appreciate the movie. A Christmas musical is not only a fantastic goal, it is something that I think was made for me. I agree with Alonso. I do think it was a smidge on the long side. But overall, a really solid movie.

[00:06:43] Is it top 10 since 1990? That's another conversation. So there's a no for you. Would it be on my list? No, but I can understand it being on a list. I just have to decide if I'm okay with it. Which I think I am.

[00:06:59] I did a little bit of research, not a lot of research, a little bit of research on the topic because I felt like I was probably going to know all 10 titles or at least most of them. And in my little bit of research,

[00:07:09] Jingle Jangle probably would have been an honorable mention for me. So very close. I did love this movie. I think it starts so well and it ends really well. It is kind of like similar to, is it spirited? Is it the movie?

[00:07:21] It seems to have one or two too many numbers. Maybe less than that and short up a little. But I don't mind this at all. I think there's a lot going for this movie. The performance is a great force, Wittaker. It's fantastic. I do love this movie.

[00:07:36] Happy it's here. Not mad at you right now, Alonso. Not mad at you, Brandon. That'll come. Yeah. That'll come. Oh, I love this. Wow. I love it. All right. What could you have played from these next 34, the 34 years here that's going to really make me angry?

[00:07:51] Well, okay, baby, not angry, but I think there will either be an eye roll or I have no idea what that is. Okay. There it is. Yeah. Now that, that I'm expecting. I'm expecting one. I don't know what that is. Okay. Okay. Fair enough.

[00:08:05] Let's see if it comes in at number nine. Here we go. Number nine is Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Let's go. This is the directorial debut of Shane Black. That's right. He loves Christmas. Like if you've seen lethal weapon, if you've seen the long kiss, good night,

[00:08:19] you know he loves to work Christmas into an action movie. So of course for his first time in the director's sherry, totally goes there and would again, and when directing Iron Man three also starring Robert Downey Jr.

[00:08:29] So yeah, this is a movie where Downey plays a New York criminal who is on the run from cops and manages to run into an audition and he's so hyped up and in the moment that he gets the part

[00:08:41] and he gets sent to Los Angeles to star in this action movie and gets caught up in a conspiracy, runs into an old flame played by Michelle Monahan who's great in this and is given, taken under the wing to sort of learn cop stuff from a private detective

[00:08:57] known as Gay Perry by Val Kilmer. I love this movie. It is the great L.A. at Christmas movie in terms of just like the utter artificiality of you know, icicles hanging from a palm tree. And it's funny. The banter is just like zing so fast

[00:09:18] and so smart and sharp and you know, the plot is labyrinthine and fun and it is constantly reminding you that it's Christmas time in a city that doesn't look like Christmas at all. Brian have you seen it? I have not seen this movie.

[00:09:33] I've been telling you to see it for a long time. I have a feeling I would feel some maybe, I don't know, I haven't seen it. There's a lot of guns and blood and death in this movie. Which I'm okay with

[00:09:43] and we'll talk about one of those on Monday with Violent Night. Violent Night, that's right. You know my concern would obviously be is it Christmasy enough for Bran? I don't know. I don't know if it would be. Christmasy. Okay. Okay. If you guys say so. I don't know.

[00:09:58] I adore this movie. I would maybe, I might move this higher. Like I had, I think five or six that were definitely ahead of this. This movie is great. Val Kilmer is great. Robert Downey Jr. is great. Michelle Monahan is great. Shane Black in his element.

[00:10:13] A little bit Pulp Fiction, a little bit of that like Barry, a little bit of that darkness, but also fun, Christmasy, hysterical. The banter is unbelievable in this movie. I tell people about this is one of these movies I bought on Blu-ray at the time

[00:10:28] just to pass around to people and go you've not seen this. Have you seen this? Here you go. Take this, go watch it. And every time I've never had someone watch it and go, man, that I just didn't, it wasn't my vibe.

[00:10:38] It's, it is one of these movies that is just so funny, but it never loses the plot. Like he made a movie with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling. The other was another, the nice guys, the other guys is the Will Ferrell. The nice guys is fun,

[00:10:50] but it never reaches the heights of Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang. Agreed. It is one, Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang is like, does everything. You can watch it all year long, but it is a Christmas movie. Love this movie. Love, love this movie. Alonzo's crushing it so far. Crushing it.

[00:11:04] He's crushing it. That's right. Let's see if it continues. How are you going to get all your pics on here, Brandon? I'll have to be creative. Yeah, that's for sure. Number eight. Dan, could you get that? I got it, man. Maybe.

[00:11:15] That was an interesting way to do it. Rare exports. Rare exports. A Christmas tale. Do either of you guys know this movie? Never heard of this movie. No, I don't know this movie. Wow. Okay. This is a Finnish action movie about the discovery of the movie.

[00:11:30] The discovery of the movie. The discovery of the actual Santa Claus in a way that is terrifying and monstrous. Basically, there is a threat of these Laplanders who are these kind of Santa zombies who will take over the world,

[00:11:51] but can also maybe be retrained to be mall Santas if they play their cards right. Wow. And it's a little kid and his dad and this oil company whose explosions have unearthed this terrifying... This is like, if you like Krampus,

[00:12:05] this is that brand of creepy, funny horror Christmas movie. So I forgot something, Brandon. I can't believe I forgot it. Alonzo doesn't limit his Christmas film watching to movies without subtitles. He's going to watch movies from the entire globe, even at Christmas time. I know.

[00:12:26] And so I don't know how many like foreign language Christmas movies I've seen. Okay. Like, I'm not opposed to a foreign language show. I'm here for it, but because of the comfort of Christmas, I guess I just don't think... I'm trying to think of one that I've seen.

[00:12:41] Literally. So there may be more than one or two of these that we don't know. This sounds like a fun time to me. Yeah, I know. It sounds like it's right up my alley. It sounds like a love-a-love. The director has gone on.

[00:12:51] He had a film that was in theaters this year, last year called Sucy. It was like a war movie that people really liked. He did one. Oh, yeah. It was completely quiet. Like, the dude doesn't say a word the whole movie? I think so, yeah.

[00:13:02] I haven't seen that one yet. And there was... And the one where like Sam Jackson is the president of the United States, whose plane gets shot down over Finland and somebody has to like rescue him. Oh, wow. Yeah. So this guy is becoming a very up-and-coming action dude.

[00:13:16] But Rare Exports is very Christmasy but very dark. So two out of three of these are really dark, Brian. How are you feeling about that? I'm okay with it. I think... I want to see this movie. So I will watch it,

[00:13:28] but I don't know what I'm going to do with it. And I think we can both say safely. It's safely on your list. I don't know why I would get... You know what I mean? I don't know. It's not fair for me to... Sure I can.

[00:13:38] Sure, I'll leave it to you. But no, I... You're going to take something off like that because you've not seen it and put something on the possible. I do think that both of y'all have a really great time with us. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.

[00:13:48] Let's do maybe one more. One more? I don't know. What do you think, Brian? I like a break right here. I like a break right here. Let's do a break right here. We'll be right back here on Dislist. Dislist. Welcome back, everybody. It is the Dislist.

[00:14:08] Alonzo has brought his list of the top 10 Christmas movies since 1990. That's right. So far we have Jingle Jangle at 10, Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang at 9, and Rare Exports at 8. Have you ever made your top 10 Christmas movies of all-time list? Oh God, no. No, no.

[00:14:27] Again, Dan likes to goof on me. I hate making lists. And even with this, like if you asked me next week, I would probably give you different titles or in a different order or whatever. I would be curious, and clearly there's not an answer to this,

[00:14:39] how many of these movies would make your all-time list? Like of these movies. Oh wow. So we can get to that later. Yeah, I don't know. Something to mow on. Let's right now, though, get to number seven. Let's do it, Dan. Shall we? Number seven. Here we go.

[00:14:52] It is another musical. Spirited. Spirited. We did review here on the program. That's right. I know it's not Brandt's favorite. But I have to say, like this movie, now that I've had a couple of holidays to revisit and stuff, I really enjoy it.

[00:15:08] Like, yeah, is it a little long? And does it maybe have one or two songs so many? Sure. Does it reach occasionally exceed its grasp or vice versa? I can never have that phrase. Yeah, yeah. A little bit, yeah. But man, I love the ambition here.

[00:15:22] I think that when it's on, it is on hard. I think the songs are really fun. I mean, this movie is so over stuff that one of the best songs runs over the closing credits. Yeah. Because they couldn't put it in where it was supposed to go

[00:15:36] without making the movie even longer. Yeah, I just, I think it's funny. I think that Farrell and Ryan Reynolds both run the risk of making you sick of their shtick sometimes when you see it in sort of lesser movies. Like, when you see Ryan Reynolds doing his thing

[00:15:55] and something like the Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard or something, it's like, yeah. But I think in this one, they're on it and they're in a movie that knows what to do with them. There's a lovely romantic subplot between Will Farrell and Octavia Spencer.

[00:16:08] There are genuine stakes of doing a kind of take on Christmas Carol here. It all works. I just love it. It all works, Bran, at number seven. Mm-hmm. How you feeling? I get it. I, I... So in, what was it? 2002? 2001. Did it come out? I'm sorry, 2022 or 2022? 2022. One? 20...

[00:16:34] Oh. One big year since COVID. One big year since COVID. Everything since... 2022. 22 last week or two years ago. Whatever year it came out, I was in a I'm annoyed by Ryan Reynolds' mood. Mm-hmm. And... It just seems like you've lost your Christmas spirit, Bran.

[00:16:50] I've been on this business to be as excited about... Can I continue? Yeah, man. Fake trees. Yeah, fake trees. And so at the time, the things that hit to Alonzo's point hit really hard in that movie, and they were great.

[00:17:02] I have since weirdly softened to Ryan Reynolds recently. Okay. And I'm excited to re-watch this movie with less annoyance at what he does when he's doing movies. And so I'm excited to re-watch it. Doesn't sound like it. It sounds like he should have all of them.

[00:17:23] I just want to be clear. We're doing this list before I've seen Deadpool vs Wolverine. That could change everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. No, I'm okay, I think, with this movie being on the list. Wow. I didn't see that coming.

[00:17:37] I'm kind of appalled this is above Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang. I liked it more than Jingle, Jangle for this one. I liked it more than Jingle, Jangle too. The first time I saw this movie, when they get to the good afternoon musical number,

[00:17:50] which is a great number in the first watch through, I was like, I get why this is funny. I get why they're doing it. Do we need it? This is one too many. We got things to do, places to be. And I felt like it was stretched.

[00:18:02] Second time through, I enjoyed it a lot more. This would probably be, it's better than Jingle, Jangle. It would either be like, honorable mention 10 for me. There's enough to like here. I think to your point, everyone involved is not there for a paycheck.

[00:18:18] Like they have decided Christmas musical pulling out of the stops to the nines. Everybody is on their A game here and listen, you're right. Like Will Ferrell has been in some clunkers. But when that guy decides not to just try to make his buddies laugh,

[00:18:34] he's like Adam Sandler. Like when he tries to not make his buddies laugh more than capable. And of all the Apple movies I've seen that clearly had an obscene budget. Oh my gosh. Give me this over like Argyle or Fly Me to the Moon.

[00:18:48] I don't want to talk about Argyle. Even Napoleon, like you know. I don't want to talk about Argyle. I'm still like that's maybe one of the worst movies I've ever said. Red Bull. But this one it's all on the screen.

[00:18:57] The insane amount of dancers and also like, I think one of the coolest things they do in this movie isn't even something that required a lot of money. The flashlight dance in this movie. Yep, yep. It's amazing. Yeah.

[00:19:09] I think we're going to see a lot of like high school production sees on something like that. Not necessarily high school productions of this, but that I'd like to see that happen. High school musical. But just the idea of like doing something that's cool that it doesn't

[00:19:21] cost an arm and a leg. I also think, go ahead, Brim. I was just going to say not seeing this one on the big screen I think also stung. So it's like. I did get to see the first time I saw it on the big screen.

[00:19:30] It's so big and now that you said it, I'm reminded that while I was watching it, I was also just frustrated. And you don't like to watch movies at home anyway. I don't. I hope it enters the rotation as like, you know, when your local

[00:19:42] theater that always shows elf that always shows Christmas. That would be great. It'd be great if they started showing this. And also like, I just know enough about Brandon know like your favorite moments in Christmas movies tend to be softer and quieter

[00:19:53] and like whatever that may look like, like you always talk about Christmas story the morning, the Christmas morning and playing the song like that's your jam. Yeah. There is not a movie that gives you more Christmas for your minute. And then this movie there. There is.

[00:20:08] It is absolutely maximalist. Absolutely maximalist. And yeah, I love it. I think I think I definitely would have like your tube every movie after this, I'm judging against this one. Sure. Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. And so I like Kiss, kiss, bang, bang more. I think it's so unique.

[00:20:23] Okay. But yeah, I dig it. I dig it. We're on good terms here right now. Alonzo. I think it's going to get serious here. I think it is. We're starting to get into the territory where I feel like there's a few non negotiables that I think

[00:20:33] are going to have to be negotiated. I think it's my heat up because I have a list of five. I've not seen any of them yet. So interested to see how this goes. It's time for number six. Let's see number six. Dan's pulling it off and it is.

[00:20:46] I can't see it Christmas again. Oh, okay. Another one that Daniel and I did on a film in a movie. And I think, Brian, you've probably still not seen it. No, I, I'm a trailer. I don't try. I've seen it. I didn't finish it. Yeah. That checks out.

[00:21:01] All right. So this is a very quiet indie film. A Kentucky oddly who's a very talented actor and filmmaker plays a guy who is running a one of those little New York sidewalk Christmas tree concessions, you know, and he's sleeping in the trailer and like a hallmark movie

[00:21:19] was real life. Exactly. Like yeah for a crazy but an indie. Yeah. And you know, we don't really understand at first like why he's so bummed out with, you know, but as more customers are showing up like, Hey,

[00:21:31] is that girl who was here with you last year ran? No. And so that, you know, and we get the occasional like flashbacks to that relationship and stuff. And over the course of this holiday season, he winds up meeting somebody else who's also in sort of

[00:21:44] an emotionally vulnerable place. I just think this movie is so beautifully understated and haunting. And I just, I love that the one of the things that I love about Christmas movies is they come in so many flavors. They can be big, big broad musical like spirited,

[00:22:00] very quiet, tamped down, wintry, you know, long stretches of not people not talking movie like Christmas again. But I think just beautifully put together and a film that has stayed with me that I've seen it becomes if I don't watch it every Christmas,

[00:22:17] I watch it almost every Christmas. And I was glad that we got to talk about it and talk about it in relation to its wonderful life of all things. But I think that it offers the sort of redemption narrative

[00:22:30] that we watch Christmas movies for just maybe in a slightly different way. Yeah, you didn't finish this movie. No, I actually started it a couple years before you guys did it on film and a movie because it, you know, it was at Christmas in the title

[00:22:45] and I looked it up and it was like 100% of Rotten Tomatoes. And I was like, well, this seems like 85 minutes play is really short. This seems like it's going to be great. And then I just kind of got sad and I turned it off.

[00:22:55] And it's like, I'm fine with sad movies, but I didn't want it for my Christmas. I was looking for something else and it wasn't that. So it's like, I don't really, I don't want to watch Manchester by the sea at Christmas time,

[00:23:08] but I still love Manchester by the sea. So maybe if this was another thing, I'd be like, I would be all about it because I can get there. It's just when I turned it on, it wasn't what I wanted. And so not fair to this movie,

[00:23:22] but I'm not fair to movies. And so why start now? But only Christmas if it's brand's way. And I've said that for years. More or less. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's not Christmas spirit. That's the problem. That's what Christmas means to him. That's right. That's right. Yeah.

[00:23:40] This is a really good movie. I always forget about it and you always bring it up. And I'm like, oh yeah, that movie was really good. At the time I watched it, I found it to be a like a minor classic, like a, you know,

[00:23:51] a 10 of 10 on a four of 10 degree of difficulty kind of situation. But I remember after watching it, thinking about it a long time after I watched it, which typically with Christmas movies, it's all cotton candy and that doesn't happen. Yeah.

[00:24:04] I don't, it probably wouldn't be on my list. I'm not mad at it per se. I think if I really love the top five, then I'll probably like find another use for this. But I also, if I'm like, there are more important things.

[00:24:18] I don't think a list is bad because it has this one. You've not committed the crime that I think everyone else has, which is here's a terrible thing on this list that belongs nowhere near, you know what I mean? But I love it. Yes. That's right. Yes.

[00:24:31] Everyone else we've done with this. Maybe in the top five. Who knows. Has done that. But you have not, which is wild because I think I have a movie on my list that I think belongs in the top 10 that you would think is that. So I,

[00:24:41] and I know Brian has a truckload. So I'm fascinated because I do like this is not a bad. But I think if you're someone that likes a melancholy indie Christmas film, that's a very specific subgenre. I think you have a great time with this movie.

[00:24:56] And I think it is a stripped down. It probably costs less than a Hallmark movie. And I'll honestly, no way less, but it's a really good well done movie. So yeah. For what it's worth my where, you know, we're five deep at this point.

[00:25:09] My top 10 has not been touched. And you know what? I love them. To be fair, mine. I didn't make a full 10. I made like seven or eight non-negotiables in my opinion. Kiss, kiss, bang bang, Spirity would both be on my list. So there you have it.

[00:25:24] We'll get to at least one that y'all can wholeheartedly. Everybody's going to be on board with at least one of these. I think the same thing. But I didn't want to say it. Let's get to number five. Top five. Here we are. Yeah. Absolutely. Good answer. Good answer.

[00:25:39] I think it's a good idea. Yeah. Absolutely. Good answer. Good answer. Call it recency bias, but I have to say, 2023 is the holdovers, delivers. Yeah. And it took me a couple of years to really understand it. The first time I saw it, I was like,

[00:25:57] but then when I saw it again, I realized I had gone in no offense with Bran eyes. And I was expecting more sort of that. I'll get you. I was expecting more kind of traditionally Christmas oomph. And this movie is not interested in that. No.

[00:26:12] It's interested in other things that really work and that also I think work as a Christmas movie. You know, Paul Giamatti plays an unpopular boarding school teacher who is stuck taking care of the kids who were stuck at the school over Christmas break in the early 70s.

[00:26:27] And it winds up being one kid. And so it's Giamatti. It is Academy Award winner. Devine Joy Randolph as the as the head cook of the school who is dealing with her own personal tragedy and this one student who is dealing with his own family stuff.

[00:26:42] And the three of them kind of come together and see each other through the holiday and help each other out with the stuff they're dealing with. And the answers aren't easy and the resolutions aren't Pat, but it is very affirming and redemptive and all the stuff

[00:26:58] that you want from a smart Christian. Let's go. Absolutely. So I know I've done a lot of talking here about, you know, what I'm looking for in a Christmas movie. And with everything that Alonzo just explained, you might say, brand this probably wasn't your deal. Right.

[00:27:13] Well, what you need to know is I love Paul Giamatti. Me too. And probably in a different way than fair. I don't know, man. So Paul Giamatti awards and brain. Probably Paul Giamatti and then just the overall Christmas aesthetic of this movie mixed with powerful, powerful storytelling.

[00:27:40] I actually have this movie a little bit higher than you. That's how much I loved it. This movie just has such a wonderful vibe and Paul Giamatti is perfect. And so I adored this movie. I have it at one. Wow. I have it at number one.

[00:27:57] This movie slaps. Are we all crushing on Paul Giamatti? That sexy beast Paul Giamatti, you bet. Look, can I change my whole past? It is. Probably a wise move. I think we would all, I'm just saying, if Giamatti's on the table,

[00:28:14] here's my thing is this movie is very Christmassy. It's not like what you got to understand. Like you and I both thought a movie was Christmassy enough a few weeks ago that brand didn't. What movie was that we just watched? You're like, that's not a Christmas movie.

[00:28:27] Catch me if you can. And it's like, yes, you have to do some work to understand the importance of Christmas. This movie is a Christmas movie. Snow everywhere, Christmas trees everywhere, this fun piano that plays some old Christmas carols. Lonely people on the holiday.

[00:28:41] Yeah, yeah, it's all the marks. The performances are outstanding. But the depth of character that we're getting here is amazing. The fact that as you look at the movie, I love a title that means two things, that they're held over here at Christmas time,

[00:28:56] but all three of these characters are held over in life. They all have not been able to get past something that happened in their life. For the kid, it's his dad. For Davine Jordan Randolph, it's her son dying.

[00:29:07] For Paul G. Miley, it's what happened when he was younger at school there. All of these characters are not wanting to move forward. They're being held over at Christmas time. The writing is superb. Alexander Payne, I love his movies by and large. This just slaps across the board.

[00:29:25] This is a perfect Christmas movie. I didn't want to end it was two and a half hours long. I loved it. I laughed. I cried. Everything you want to do in this movie, remember, forget, dream, laugh, cry. It's all here. Number one for me, the holdovers.

[00:29:40] Freaking love this movie. Dan and I saw this movie in theaters together. And when the movie starts, there's like a relatively long zoom-in shot of the snow. And I just go to Dan and I go, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He establishes the heck out of 1970s.

[00:29:57] I left the theater and was just telling everyone I knew. Like, I think I came to work the next day and I was like, hey, Aaron, if you've got the time, find a way to get to the theater to see the holdovers. I was just, and she did.

[00:30:10] You went that week. Great, right? Fantastic. It's so good. So better than Oppenheimer, you're saying. I will say my top 10 for the year last year, Oppenheimer won holdovers too. Okay. Those are my top two. I need to look to make sure that's accurate,

[00:30:28] but it was either two or three for the year. So close. All right. Like very, very close to being there. It is that good of a movie. I mean, it is one of the best Christmas movies of all time in my opinion. Yeah, it was number two.

[00:30:41] Number two. American fiction, Killers of the Flower Moon across the Spider-Verse. Those were the five. Those were the five. So like, it's amazing. It's amazing movie. Love it. And in fact, five seems like a slight to me. I'm fascinated with the top four are,

[00:30:53] but I'm glad that we got that. Let's do four and break four three. Four and break before the top three. I love that play. Number four. Okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. I didn't even think about this. I'm sorry. I didn't even think about this.

[00:31:07] 1950s lesbian romance based on a pseudonymous novel by the great Patricia Highsmith who wrote Talented Mr. Ripley and Strangers on a Train. Yep. And the movie is a young woman who is a photographer and a department store clerk who meets a mysterious

[00:31:28] glamorous older woman Carol played by the great Kate Blanchett. Right. And the two embark on an affair, even though it's the 1950s and not the greatest time to embark on a lesbian affair, especially if like Kate Blanchett, you are trying to not lose custody of your daughter.

[00:31:42] This movie is beautiful and wintry and Christmas I think plays a, you know, oftentimes I talk about Christmas being the juxtaposition. You know, when you're doing a horror movie or something about like family secrets or darkness, you know, Christmas is that cheerful, you know, white snow bank

[00:32:04] that reflects everything more vividly, you know. And yeah, I think this is one of the best films of the last 20 years. I'm a huge Todd Haynes fan and the performances are great. I think it delivers on all the period stuff and it

[00:32:20] ends in a way that I think is redemptive and uplifting in a way that a lot of queer films have not been allowed to be. So yeah, Carol, love it. Well, you put me in a tough spot here, Alonzo, because one, I haven't seen it.

[00:32:34] And two, now I'm faced with do I kick the lesbian couple out of the top five? That's right. Yeah. So bitch, this is tough. This is tough. I'll have to do some thinking. It sounds great. That's like a great movie.

[00:32:47] Am I wrong in how much Christmas is in this movie? Is there a lot of Christmas? There's a lot of Christmas. I mean, they meet when Carol is buying like a tree set. She leaves the gloves and then the lunch. It's smelling a lot on the cover.

[00:33:00] I don't know what to do here because I like this movie a lot. It never even crossed my mind. I just looked at a bunch of lists for Christmas movies and it didn't show up on either of those lists so my memory wasn't jogged. Sarah Paulson also wonderful.

[00:33:11] She always, every time she shows up, she's wonderful. What's it Kyle? X, Y doesn't have a belly button. Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler. Coach Taylor. Here. Jake Lacey. Yeah. It's really good. This is a good movie. I mean, I don't think you did question the

[00:33:27] Christmasness of it and then the ranking of it. I don't. I mean like it's weird because as a movie, sure, but as a Christmas movie, these other movies, I that's tough. It's a tough spot to be in. I got to do some thinking there because I mean,

[00:33:43] I love Todd Haynes too and I like, I'm not mad at this pick. I'm not, I'm mad at it being four, but I'm not mad at this pick overall. I think this would have been one at 10. I'd been like, oh yeah, great pick.

[00:33:53] And at four, I know I have work to do. Understood. So fair enough man, we got some, you haven't even seen this. Man Dan, us straight white guys have a tough, a tough job to do. When is it going to be your mom? I know.

[00:34:04] I'm going to assure you, barring some crazy shenanigans. Carol is moving down on my list and I don't know about it at all. That's just who I am. Do you want to, let's take a break and we'll come back and we'll make some guesses.

[00:34:15] We'll make some, oh okay. I guess I love this. I love this. We'll be right back here on the list. List, list, list. Hello, hello, hello. We're back. We're talking about the top 10 Christmas movies from 1990 that, a Quornoloe Alonzo. Lot on the, the Lysso Favre 10-4.

[00:34:39] Anything in your mind that is missing. Yeah. So I think that for that you would expect him to play. I think for him here is Elf. I think Elf is a movie that I know Alonzo does like. I know that about him and I, until the

[00:34:53] Holdovers was always my number one, especially from the last three decades. And it's my number two. Unaccompanied Miners. Unaccompanied Miners has to make the list. If it makes the list, that's top three. No, God, he can't. I didn't think about it.

[00:35:11] Oh, I mean, that was my number one thought. I mean, mine's a fine movie. Alonzo is going to do a bid here. He's going to put Unaccompanied Miners at number one. Dude, I just, this got real. It just got real. I think we'll see Unaccompanied Miners, Elf,

[00:35:23] and then a movie we've never seen. And then you, do you think he's not going to include Home Alone? Oh, no, there's no way. The first Home Alone. I don't think he's going to do it. Wow. Okay. I don't think he's going to do it.

[00:35:33] Elf is my one non-negotiable here. I feel like he's going to have it on the list. I feel like I know Alonzo well enough. He's a dear friend. Here's three. Alonzo is going to have it. Number three, here we go. Oh, yeah. God.

[00:35:45] Oh, I don't even like this movie. What? I don't even like this movie. I thought you hadn't seen it. No, I've seen it. When did you see it? With my children two Christmases ago. We watched it again last Christmas. Oh, I love this movie.

[00:35:59] This movie makes me cry every time I see it. And I think it's so funny. It is Artman Animation doing the story of Arthur. That might be my least favorite artman. Oh, did you see that soccer one? I did not. Okay. Yeah.

[00:36:14] So this is Arthur is Santa Claus's younger son, voiced by James McAvoy. And he is the brand of the family. He loves Christmas very much into the spirit of the whole thing. But his older brother, who is voiced by Hulari,

[00:36:30] is set to take over and he's very sort of sick sigma about the whole thing. Everything super organized and code numbers and, you know, got it all organized down to a T. But then one girl doesn't get her present. And everybody else is like,

[00:36:47] eh, well, you know, one margin of error, what are you going to do? And Arthur's like, no, no. We're getting her bike that she asked for. And so he, Briani, a gift wrapping elf, and Grand Santa, his grandfather, Bill Nye, set out to deliver this one last present.

[00:37:05] And I love the way this movie looks. I love the way this movie makes me feel. I love the Christmas steepedness of the whole thing. I understand there are people out there who don't like this movie and I don't understand them because I think this movie is great.

[00:37:21] Dan Dan, your deal, man. So we're in a lot of debates. Dan, your name has been mentioned. Would you like to respond? I think, and I do think it's a difference of opinion. I think it starts with, I don't like the way it looks.

[00:37:36] And maybe it's an Ardman thing because I love Ardman stuff. And this looks really slick for the time it was created but doesn't age well. Whereas there are other stuff ages incredibly well. The idea, I think of Santa becoming a military operation

[00:37:53] being the big thing in this movie where they don't say it's wrong. Like I think in a movie like the Santa Claus where it's like turbo tank and it's like that's clearly wrong. The fact that we've just militarized Santa basically.

[00:38:04] Like he's a Marine and he's getting the toys done because that's what's important to do the job and we had to figure out the heart of Christmases about we spend an inordinate amount of time doing the militarization part of Christmas which I stopped

[00:38:16] thinking was cool after about 10 minutes. And I wanted to get to that James McEvoy Bill Naie stuff a lot sooner. And then I feel that that part is rushed and when it hits at the end, it doesn't really hit for me. And I know it is subjective.

[00:38:29] And this movie seems to be split with a lot of people. I think no one is just like it's okay. Like my kids asked to watch it and I try my best to not give them my I try my best to go great guys. Let's watch it.

[00:38:41] But I find something else to do. It is not for me. It doesn't work for me. The look isn't right. It just isn't what I want from a kids Christmas movie or Christmas movie in general. The first movie on this list that I actively would

[00:38:56] avoid were it on TV. Yeah. I know this is a movie that has caused a schism in many of Christmas and iPodcast. That's right. Yeah. Bray loves it though. I love this movie. Weirdly enough my kids don't really care for this movie.

[00:39:08] And maybe that is like an animation thing or something that doesn't like click with them. Maybe you should watch it with day's kids. Yeah. Listen they can come over anytime. They know that. I think your kids need some Christmas beer. You're not giving them much at home.

[00:39:19] They can come over and since he's lost it. I love this movie. I watch it every year. Me and my wife just we love it. There's something about it that just really works. It is higher on your list and it is on my list.

[00:39:32] But it is in America or anywhere. It is in my top 10. Wow. It is in my top 10. So I can't wait to hear your top 10. Well I got I got to do I got to work with his. So yeah lots a lot to do but I like this.

[00:39:48] I like this play a lot. Wow. Happy to see it on number three. Alonzo don't hold it against me. That's going off. It's going off the board. There's nothing I can do about it. We're not going to be honest though.

[00:39:58] Moving a top three is always a bold move. But I just I can't believe you put I know you like the movie. I can't believe you put it at three. Man there's some really good movies up there because if we're if we're talking about like Eels.

[00:40:13] Yeah well we you know our rule here on this list is best is favorite people don't like that but for this list we're not we do a bit about the definitive list but these are your objective. That's right.

[00:40:24] Best is favorite and so if this is if you really are drawn to this more than the others God bless you I just that's that's so I have a very special memory of seeing it for the first time. Okay.

[00:40:34] It was for some reason they had the press screenings of this and like one of the Twilight sequels back to back boy in that a dream ever seeing this with my good friend Gray Drake and we're both like leaving the theater

[00:40:47] sobbing and running to the car to go to the other movie. That's right. And getting it to see it in 3D. I think I did. I haven't seen that one done so I'm a huge 3D guy.

[00:40:57] Bran isn't I guess me I had it anytime somebody wants to go to a 3D movie which is never in my life ever because my wife nobody likes I'm always like yes I don't really care what it

[00:41:06] is I'll go like Kong vs the new Kong movie I saw in 3D movie sucked 3D was amazing. It was great I'm here for it. I could turn it around this. Maybe that could help with some of the because they

[00:41:17] have like the the slay the new version of the slay and the star ship Enterprise. It's this massive thing. It can camouflage. I just was like I didn't care. I'm not I'm not in and I've seen this movie a handful of times.

[00:41:31] I would think that you would kind of like like the militization of the operation because at least it helps it make sense like Santa can't do it all himself so he needs all these. Problem is is the movie lives and this is too big

[00:41:45] of a criticism for a movie for children but the movie lives in a liminal space of not damning it or using it. I think I wanted it to either be like we optimize Christmas let's keep optimizing it but not forget the

[00:41:59] heart or he's a terrible dirtbag human being and I want James McAvoy to run the show because all of the efficiency in the world doesn't save Christmas. Well I wanted one of those two. I think that what we're left with is the idea

[00:42:12] of you need the heart and the head. Yeah you know I can that and the head should be running the operation but the heart should be running the show. That's right we know a little bit about that. Don't worry it's right yeah like I have the heart

[00:42:23] in the Christmas spirit and you have the brains to thank you for saying I have the brain. Oh wow. Elf. Okay. At number two everybody can exhale now. Oh my can I is number one that almost makes it like worse.

[00:42:42] This is one this table might be flipped over. Oh my goodness oh my goodness oh my goodness no. I see the outline of a white poster at one. No on a company miners does have whites. If Paul Feig directed the number one Christmas

[00:42:55] movie in Alonzo's list those are fine. Don't answer Alonzo just let the suspense build. No no no no I'm getting so nervous talk about Elf Alonzo. I mean look what is there to say about Elf at this point but I think that what is

[00:43:09] so great about it and that I think what we take for granted about it all this time later is that this is a movie that rides a fine line between sincerity and irony. And I think it could have easily accidentally

[00:43:23] tipped into one or the other and they figure out a way to not do that and that's something of a miracle frankly and so I think this movie comes out of a very sort of 90s snarky place but at the same time

[00:43:38] like has so much sentiment that it is able to push past the cynicism of its moment and be one of the be an all-timer. The way that you know Miracle on 34th Street is which is a movie that it directly you know was quoting at times.

[00:43:55] Yeah it's it is just. You know we hear more and more about James Cahn and Will Ferrell not like each other. Will Ferrell, John Faber not like each other. The tinch the movie lives on the tightrope of the tension between James Cahn and Will Ferrell.

[00:44:08] Will Ferrell wanting to make old school but Christmas. James Cahn and John Faber wanting to make a Christmas classic for kids of all ages and the movie is better for it. I'm sorry they fought. Yeah every time I see one of those stories

[00:44:22] you posted one in the double-decker group. Every time I see one I'm always like I hate it for them. That's what made this movie great. But you always hear like very often when the set is smooth and everybody like get

[00:44:32] along and oh they had such a great time doing it. That's right. That's right. So you know a little sometimes you need the sand to make the pearl. Yeah yeah yeah this movie this movie slaps go ahead Brad. Oh no it's a perfect Christmas movie.

[00:44:43] It's fantastic and if you haven't if you're a fan of Elf which I don't know who isn't and you haven't watched the movies that made us about Elf in the making of it run. Don't watch. I've not seen it. Oh it's great. It's a great watch.

[00:44:57] Great behind the scenes stuff about this movie how it was made how it almost wasn't made and all that stuff. This movie is amazing. If I was doing a ranking of my all time Christmas movies including you know it's a wonderful life and what not this

[00:45:10] movie would still be in the top five. It would. I think this movie is perfect. If my seven year old can watch it and love it if when I saw this movie I was 21 or two. I loved it at 22. I love it at 40.

[00:45:24] Everybody will this movie is every quadrant. I don't have any quadrants there are. I know Quad says there's four. This hits every single quadrant for Christmas movies and that's why I'm the brain. That's all the devil. I have the Christmas spirit. He has the brains.

[00:45:37] That's how it works. All right. This is this is this is I mean I don't know what the F you're about to do here before we unveil number one. I just want to say that like I love all of these movies and my number one

[00:45:49] is not necessarily my number one movie based on the Christmas of it although the Christmas of it is great but it is I think the best movie on this list. You went with best. Here we go. Number one is. Oh thank God. Christmas tale.

[00:46:03] The one movie with subtitles that brand has ever watched. And Conte de Noel. Conte de Noel. There's no accent. You're right. Yeah. Catherine Deneuve plays a matriarch who is dealing with a rare illness and as her family gathers at Christmas this is she there's a

[00:46:20] transfusion involved that is usually something that parents donate the children but even though she's not a parent she's not a parent. She's a parent's donate the children but even though she is an elder woman she's like well you guys all owe me your life

[00:46:35] so one of you is going to give me this transplant. And it brings together the contentious members of her family including the son Matthew Amalric who's been sort of the black sheep and has been literally exiled from the family for the last five years.

[00:46:50] There are so many characters and so many little sort of sub dramas going on and what's so great I'll watch this movie again and I've seen it many times at this point and find myself rooting for different characters like a character who I think is

[00:47:06] a victim of the family in the first movie and another viewing I'll think well no you kind of had it coming and somebody who I think is like awful and selfish I'll be like you have a point though you know and so that's

[00:47:20] the richness of this movie is that these characters are not and the way they interact with each other just the way that this movie captures what a full family house at Christmas is like with multiple generations butting up against each other and doing the

[00:47:35] odd little traditions that only your family does. The performances are great the you know it is set in one of the not nicest places in France like a very industrial small town but the house is glorious the way they decorated is glorious and

[00:47:52] I just find this movie moving and funny and insightful and it is a legitimate great film that is also a Christmas movie. There you have it. Bran you've seen this movie. I have not. We did it on 25 weeks of Christmas Bran. Oh no. You've seen this movie.

[00:48:09] Oh no. You're like 100% sure? I'm positive. Take it to the tape. Take it to the tape the tape don't lock. Nothing about this. Oh no. French family the little kids the wolf pretend there's a wolf in the basement the nothing really. I love you it's still not clicking.

[00:48:26] Wow. Okay well you've seen it. I swear we've reviewed it. Okay. Bran. Great I love that. Glad to know that it stuck to you like Lou. Bran? Yeah that's popping up. What are your big thoughts after seeing this movie? I have no thoughts. Dan? Yeah this sounds great.

[00:48:44] It sounds like a time that I would really love and I hate that I've not seen it. I would like to watch it. I'm gonna I'm not gonna I might move it from number one just because I would love to see

[00:48:53] Elfer Holdover's up there and I think that's fair and even you hedged a little on saying it's the movie that I think is the best not the one you necessarily go back to the most so I think I have some wiggle room with

[00:49:04] Alonzo there in shuffling its place but yeah it the the you have it at one you say it's the best movie on the list that's we disagree on stuff but that's enough for me I think I want to see it

[00:49:16] now I'm gonna add it to the list and of course Alonzo is bringing us a foreign language film as the number one Christmas maybe the last 34 years no one would have thought otherwise I don't know why we would have thought at least Bran has seen

[00:49:28] it that's right yeah he'll have memories and insights about but he didn't gang he didn't yes great okay yeah well I'd be able to handle it I wasn't able to handle the answers are hard no and I go back in a little way two years ago

[00:49:52] yeah I remember everything we saw from kid up from a kiss kiss memory from from filming a movie like I feel like you remember everything significantly better that's not a good metric at all what are you bring a good metric at all

[00:50:05] alright brand you got some you got some thinking to do I do have some thinking to do remind me again who gets to do what we we're both doing our own list right so we're both gonna take two of them and replace them with two of our

[00:50:18] own okay and then we get to after we do that we can flip the order of two of two films twice so we could flip I could flip one in ten I could put two and eight if I wanted to okay and then we're gonna

[00:50:28] pitch you that list okay and you have to choose one of our two lists as the final list that's what's gonna happen brandy ready no not even close are you are you ready um I'm close to ready uh what are you pondering

[00:50:43] through I know the two I'm taking off and I know one that I'm putting on I don't know the other one I'm putting on because he's gonna hate it whatever I choose he's gonna hate alright I think I think I know what I'm doing all right

[00:50:55] hit me okay so first and the here's I'm gonna tell you this first I'm taking Arthur Christmas off the board and I'm taking Christmas again off the board wow okay those are the two I'm taking off the board now I've not seen rare

[00:51:08] exports and I've not seen a content they Christmas or a Christmas story but I trust you enough there this one sounds interesting this is number one I want to respect it so Christmas again Carol and Christmas again where I was debating here Carol's the better movie

[00:51:25] so I'm taking Christmas again off the board I know you love that movie it's just one of these movies that is a Christmas your top ten it's just not top ten for me the two movies I'm going to put on this list that are

[00:51:37] currently at placeholders three and six but will not stay there are at Christmas Carol now Michael Cain in this movie is one of my favorite Scrooge's ever he's so good in this movie this movie scared my kids at six years old it it still works for me to

[00:51:56] this day even though everyone but Michael Cain is a Muppet pretty much I love this movie I love it I love the Muppets I always have I think Muppet Christmas Carol represents some of the best that the Muppets have but I'm not going to say it three but

[00:52:11] right now it's at three okay at six is the Santa Claus now I know I get it I get it I understand the Tim Allen of it all that's not even an issue like I like that movie I saw the Santa Claus at ten years old

[00:52:25] brand I talk about this all the time we disagree a lot around the office but what we don't disagree on is that the Santa Claus is the preeminent Santa Christmas movie it is what the North Pole looks like the lore of Santa this is the one that

[00:52:40] every other one relates to in our brains because of how old we are I love this movie at ten years old I love it now the sequels are trash brand still stands by the second when I watched him both last holiday season

[00:52:52] their trash the first one is great Tim Allen is great the guy that plays Bernard that was also in Oppenheimer recognize him he is he like the movie just crushes across Judge Reinholds I mean come on I love that movie that movies at six

[00:53:07] right now so here's what I'm going to do I'm going to switch I can't get everything I want that's what makes this tough I can go I want to do a couple of things really quickly Brian I'm sorry I'm not putting Christmas with the

[00:53:24] cranks on this list I would have loved to have tried to do it but I don't know if you're going to do it because I'm going to get cranks on this list I would have loved to have tried but there's just not enough that I can

[00:53:38] do and he didn't put enough you didn't put enough in to to make it to where I can just do things so I had to I gotta I gotta do what I I gotta work with what I have is what I'm trying to say I'm not

[00:53:52] gonna I'm not gonna touch your nine I'm sorry your ten through six I'm not going to touch it I'm going to get rid of your number six anyone's you don't care about I'm not going to touch that's exactly right I'm going to do

[00:54:06] a bold move here and I'm only going to mess with six through one number six I'm getting rid of Christmas again and I'm going to replace it with home alone two not home alone home alone to the better one the better movie and then

[00:54:22] from there I am going to swap home alone to home alone to with Carol so Carol is now going to be six and a homo alone two is going to be number four I'm also going to change the holdovers and I'm going to I'm going to swap

[00:54:42] holdovers and Arthur Christmas so Arthur Christmas is five home alone to four holdovers three number two is elf and I'm going to get rid of your number one because if I've seen it I can't remember it I can't a good faith keep it there get lost French film

[00:55:02] and I'm putting in the Santa Claus number one so I am doing you're putting Santa Claus at one over all. Dang straight baby Jingle Jangle surprises that it's not surprising. 10th Jingle Jangle nine Kiskes Bang Bang eight rail rack sports seven spirited six Carol

[00:55:22] five Arthur Christmas four home alone three the holdovers two elf one the Santa Claus and I like that a lot. Brandon I love your list but alongs I think I got you I think my list is better I think it's just better across the board and I'm

[00:55:36] going to tell you in a second but I have one question for you. Okay you have Santa Claus is a better movie than Home Alone Two I do okay it's really close okay good good talk all right here's what I did but also

[00:55:48] can I just really quickly put it on the record I do have elf technically is a better movie than Home Alone Two I'm going to tell you I couldn't do everything I wanted to do here that's exactly right so I switched holdovers and Muppet Christmas Carol

[00:56:02] so I moved holdovers to three Muppet Christmas Carol down to sit to five then I took Santa Claus and I moved it down to nine and move Kiskes Bang Bang up to six so my list one Christmas story or whatever you want to call that uh Christmas tale

[00:56:18] two elf three holdovers six Kiskes Bang Bang seven spirited eight rare exports nine Santa Claus ten Jingle Jingle that's a great list that's a great list that's a list we can all be proud of I have no yeah say it slower number from one or from

[00:56:36] ten okay so one Christmas tale two elf three holdovers four Carol five Muppet Christmas Carol six Kiskes Bang Bang seven spirited eight rare exports nine the Santa Claus and ten Jingle Jingle dude you've not seen Kiskes Bang Bang it's better than the Santa Claus it's all time great

[00:57:05] my only my only I love my list my only downer is that I want elf and Christmas I want holdovers one elf two Kiskes Bang Bang three and there was no way for me to do that so I did the best I could with what I had

[00:57:17] okay so first of all I have no problem with the Santa Claus I think it's a very funny movie I think it totally holds up my only complaint is that it has led a generation of people to misspell actual Santa Claus

[00:57:29] more than fair but you know what are you what are you gonna do that just that's a sign that it has it has stuck in and do you like it at one or do you like it at nine along so that's there's that too

[00:57:41] Muppet Christmas Carol like I love them up it's grew up on I mean I know you do that's why I kind of thought it might be generation one Sesame Street like I love them up it's I love it Christmas Carol my hot take on

[00:57:51] that movie is that the songs are not good okay and I love Paul Williams the songs he did for the Muppet movie are genius and all of his hits of the 70s that he did for the Carpenter's or whatever like he's a he's brilliant love him

[00:58:03] in Paradise big fan don't love them up at Christmas great as a college friend of mine and I were saying after we walked out of that movie every song sounds like la la la Christmas and so that yeah man it's awesome it's kind of great isn't it

[00:58:21] to me to that movie but I get what works about it and why people love it and there's a lot to love it Homelone 2 Homelone 2 is hot garbage and y'all are both bad for liking it. Homelone 1 is not really great either you were eight the the the my

[00:58:37] my ongoing refrain was it great or were you eight you were eight it was great it can be true at the same time so yeah Homelone 2 is worse than Homelone 1 I don't even know and I don't even love Homelone 1 but Homelone 2 is like maximum makes

[00:58:53] less sense and is more violent and stupid. What a hole. Yeah pass so by virtue of Homelone 2 not being on the list I'm going with Dan's I thought you might. And I don't hate it I'm not gonna make this a pseudonymous episode I can live with that

[00:59:11] I think my I think both of our lists did well I think you swung for the ever loving fences with Santa Claus at one and Homelone 2 in the top five yeah I did that was a move um you like both of my choices we all of our choices

[00:59:27] I like your choice we put Santa Claus in I think it tells you where we are I'm not as high on Muppet Christmas as a lot of people my age and your age are but I still adore it. I think my thing was

[00:59:39] Homelone 2 is near and dear to my heart so is Muppet Christmas Carol so it was a no brainer to me to go okay I don't have to have Homelone a sequel to Homelone and I can put Muppet Christmas Carol on there

[00:59:51] so I love it it's a great list we did it we dislist do you want to now you both have to go see a Christmas tale and Bran has to watch it again to remember what you bet I will I didn't have a top

[01:00:03] I didn't make a top 10 like you did the only movies that weren't mentioned that the only one movie on this list one movie that I would kind of debate having on this list that wasn't mentioned it always loved actually I actually like that movie

[01:00:15] I know there's like half the stories are super problematic I get it I don't understand that at the time that I saw it sure no it all worked and then still to this day if you watch it you're like yikes a bikes what was I thinking

[01:00:27] and yet some of it still plays we learn a lot don't we we can never stop learning we grow up no I'll tell you that is a movie where that falls in the category of if you love it I know why and if you hate it I know

[01:00:39] that's right yeah and and it certainly it's one it's a good one to have on mute just to look at can I tell you not only that but the the Bill Nye storyline in that movie where it's just a bromance it's just like the person I love

[01:00:53] is my best friend like I just I love my best friend and we made music together and that was why it was fun it almost makes me forget some of the stuff that is in that movie that you would even agree that one storyline although I

[01:01:09] watch a whole movie although that one also falls in the category of man falls in love with his employee it does a little bit you're right but it's been a less gross agent I don't know like technically it's not like an underling yeah they're at equal

[01:01:23] footing which is nice that one that storyline if the whole movie was that and Bill Nye national treasure I mean Emma Thompson crime Emma Thompson yeah well she just is unbelievable yeah she's great but everybody's everybody Alan Rickman sure I mean they're all you great

[01:01:39] and you know Richard Curtis knows how to do the yeah the quips but yeah you take a second and start looking at what's going on here you're like you're either like you're either creeping on and you're somebody who works for you or you're a stalker

[01:01:53] in this yeah yeah true brain anything that we missed out on no I think that's good I don't want I don't you guys don't need to hear my top 10 no one needs that I think we do I don't need to be ridiculed

[01:02:03] I'll give you all right okay okay I'll go quickly 10 Krampus I'm just kidding I actually like Krampus 9 9 9 Arthur Christmas 8 the Grinch with Jim Carrey the Grinch with Jim Carrey no get in the trunk of the car if you had said if you had said the animated

[01:02:25] Grinch with Benedict Cumberbatch maybe with Jim Carrey one no maybe seven way better seven the Polar Express oh my gosh 6 Christmas with the Cranks dude Christmas you may love Christmas but Christmas hates you 5 jingle all the way God Almighty there isn't Christmas isn't real the marketable fake thing 4

[01:02:59] the whole jingle all the way you said 5 for jingle all the way yes sorry 4 the holdovers okay 3, 2, 2, 1 1, Elf I will say this your top 4 I love it brandidegthohalmark.com for all you Polar Express jingle all the way Grinch with Jim Carrey stands out there

[01:03:21] now I kind of almost wish I had put Unaccompanied Miners on this one just to troll y'all but that was a trolling there those 3 movies I like that movie it was not going to be in my top 10 thank you I thought so

[01:03:35] we will be back on Monday we're talking about the Violent Night which also could have been on the list that was in my honorable mention here are our thoughts spoiler good, sorry until next time we wish you a Merry Christmas Merry Christmas

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