The movie kicks off at the initial wedding, where Jackson is dancing with his daughter, Betty, and Betty drops a bomb—she's moving to Italy with her mom. Jackson is pretty miserable. He runs a firm that represents social media influencers, like a guy who just eats soup. One day, he gets a call from his ex asking if Betty can come and stay with him for a while, and he's like, “I got a better idea—I’ll come to you!” He goes to Italy and gets a red convertible, 'cause why not? He almost hits a woman named Gabriella. I'm sure he'll never see her again, though. Except he does, 'cause of course she runs a café that doesn't serve cappuccinos in the afternoon. They continue to bump into each other, and friction turns into sexual tension. He even builds her a new website. But Jackson is like, “Nothing is going to happen between us.” He is a bit hesitant to love since he's been there, done that, and got divorced. The boys come to visit, and they go to a masked dance. The boys are like, “Go out there, dance with someone.” He is hesitant but does end up dancing with a masked stranger, and it is hot, hot, hot. He even dips her! It's a moment. But he leaves before finding out who she is.
The next day, they're at the café, and Gabriella slips and almost falls, and he catches her, dip style, realizing that it was her he danced with. He talks to her about it, and she's like, “Sorry, I didn't know it was you.” The next day, he's walking with Betty, and Betty tells him that he's not dating for any other reason than being scared, and it's not fair to either of them. The following day, Gabriella brings over some lasagna, and he offers to drive her home. The car breaks down, so they end up walking back to the city, and he opens up about everything. She tells him that she knew it was him all along during the dance. They are about to kiss, but the sprinkler turns on, and everyone knows you can't kiss while wet. He joins her for dinner at her father's house, and at the end of the night, he's like, “I'd love to make this work, but it just doesn't make sense.” She's like, “We'll always have that dance.” He realizes that he done goofed and decides that he's going to stay! They kiss!
Cut back to the narrator of the story—it's Betty. Milo shows up and tells her that he's loved her since they were kids. They get married. Everyone gives so many speeches, Then they all dance. And FINALLY, the groomsmen do there special dance again.
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[00:00:40] The Groomsmen, Last Dance.
[00:00:43] That's right, we're doing a Venom movie on this podcast?
[00:00:45] That is crazy!
[00:00:46] We are.
[00:00:47] I actually just found out we got Venom on the line.
[00:00:49] We have Venom on the line?
[00:00:50] Oh, thank God.
[00:00:51] Venom, how are you buddy?
[00:00:52] I'm doing great, how about you guys?
[00:00:54] Oh, Venom!
[00:00:55] I'm so excited to be covered, I've been seeing these screeners for years.
[00:00:58] This is amazing!
[00:00:59] I mean, I got Tom Hardy over here, I'm a monster, you can't cover one Venom movie?
[00:01:03] I know, I know.
[00:01:04] We can choose The Last Dance, which tries to take it seriously.
[00:01:07] It's the groomsmen.
[00:01:08] But you love Tyler Hines.
[00:01:10] Yes.
[00:01:10] I'm doing a full Oscar campaign here, Brian, I don't have time to talk about Tyler.
[00:01:13] Venom's doing an Oscar campaign for you?
[00:01:16] That's like four year consideration.
[00:01:16] Four year consideration.
[00:01:18] Alonzo, did you consider Venom?
[00:01:21] Is that a Venom?
[00:01:22] Not once it was over, no.
[00:01:24] No, maybe I was considering it before I saw it.
[00:01:27] I didn't do the thing with you, no?
[00:01:30] But here's the appalling thing about both Venom The Last Dance and The Groomsmen Last Dance
[00:01:34] is that neither of them uses Donna Summer's last dance.
[00:01:37] Well, we couldn't afford it.
[00:01:38] We spent a lot of money on me and Tom Hardy.
[00:01:40] I don't know if you're kidding me.
[00:01:40] I get it, but it seems like the money is on the screen, you could maybe there be
[00:01:44] like a little extra in the drawer somewhere for Donna Summer.
[00:01:47] That movie won an Academy Award, you know?
[00:01:49] That song, rather, won an Academy Award in a movie that did not deserve it.
[00:01:52] No, no.
[00:01:53] Last Dance was named best song in the terrible disco comedy, Thank God It's Friday.
[00:01:58] But this year's the year, baby.
[00:01:59] This year's the year.
[00:02:00] This year's the year.
[00:02:01] This year's the year.
[00:02:02] Everything's coming up, Venom.
[00:02:03] Last Dance.
[00:02:06] Love you, Venom.
[00:02:07] Have a go on, buddy.
[00:02:08] Shout out.
[00:02:09] Did you hear him?
[00:02:10] He said shout out.
[00:02:11] Shout out.
[00:02:12] That was wild.
[00:02:13] Venom's so cool.
[00:02:15] How have we not had him on here before?
[00:02:16] I don't know.
[00:02:16] That's crazy.
[00:02:17] I don't know.
[00:02:18] I mean, we've been doing this podcast for all three of those movies.
[00:02:20] Yeah.
[00:02:21] You never once decided that we're going to...
[00:02:23] Maybe Venom?
[00:02:24] It's messed up.
[00:02:25] We're talking The Groomsmen, actually.
[00:02:27] The Groomsmen, Last Dance.
[00:02:29] Other Last Dance.
[00:02:30] A Hallmark Plus movie that came out on October 31st.
[00:02:34] Can we talk about all the things that Hallmark decided let's drop on October 31st?
[00:02:39] It's crazy.
[00:02:40] The Groomsmen, Last Dance.
[00:02:41] The launch of the Jonathan Bennett finding mistletoe murders.
[00:02:46] Yeah.
[00:02:46] Mistletoe murders, which we're not even going to get...
[00:02:49] Was there something else?
[00:02:52] I haven't...
[00:02:54] Who can keep up?
[00:02:55] Who's going to break it to them that there's six other days?
[00:02:58] I don't like to root against anyone, but I'm kind of hoping I hear no feedback from mistletoe
[00:03:03] murders.
[00:03:03] I'm so sad about it because they're, you know, you're doing a cool...
[00:03:07] It's a Christmas mystery.
[00:03:08] I know.
[00:03:08] You're doing a cool thing.
[00:03:09] But we don't have the time.
[00:03:11] No, I get it.
[00:03:12] I get it.
[00:03:13] We could have maybe had the time had they, you know, promoted it and...
[00:03:18] Spaced them out.
[00:03:18] Put it out, not on a house.
[00:03:20] I don't know.
[00:03:21] I'm mad.
[00:03:22] I'm mad.
[00:03:23] And the same night that Will Kemp...
[00:03:26] Ostia.
[00:03:27] Over on the old linear.
[00:03:28] And a little thing called Halloween.
[00:03:30] Maybe you've heard of it.
[00:03:31] What?
[00:03:33] This is crazy.
[00:03:33] Who's going to tell them?
[00:03:34] Who's going to tell them it's Halloween?
[00:03:36] Not me.
[00:03:37] I can't.
[00:03:38] It is Halloween, which means tomorrow's officially Christmas.
[00:03:41] Yeah.
[00:03:42] For those that have been holding out, it's officially Christmas, which means it's time
[00:03:47] to pull out your edition of Christmas Movie Magic.
[00:03:50] If you don't have it already, it is the card game that is sweeping the nation, Dan, because
[00:03:55] it is so much fun.
[00:03:57] So many Christmas movies, so little time, and this makes it even more fun.
[00:04:00] If you're going to throw a Christmas movie party this year, which many people do, this
[00:04:06] is a must have.
[00:04:07] It is so much fun, and it makes any movie night a thousand times more fun.
[00:04:13] Because not only is it fun, like, oh, I got that, I got that, but it's competitive.
[00:04:17] You get competitive.
[00:04:18] The Christmas competitive juices begin to flow.
[00:04:22] And it is a lot of fun.
[00:04:24] Christmas Movie Magic.
[00:04:25] DeckTheHomart.com slash game.
[00:04:27] And if you're throwing a Christmas movie party, you probably should do so with this book,
[00:04:34] because it's going to tell you.
[00:04:35] I'll be home for Christmas movies wherever you buy books.
[00:04:37] It's going to tell you how to throw one of those.
[00:04:39] The Save the Town Brownies.
[00:04:41] That's right.
[00:04:41] Speak for themselves.
[00:04:42] Movies you should or should not watch.
[00:04:43] So you get this.
[00:04:44] You pick a couple of movies.
[00:04:46] You play that.
[00:04:47] Everybody wins.
[00:04:49] Everybody wins.
[00:04:50] Man.
[00:04:51] I mean, come on.
[00:04:51] That's it.
[00:04:52] It's a big win.
[00:04:52] And you watch it on Philo and everybody, we all, we all win at that point.
[00:04:56] Venom, do you have the book?
[00:04:59] Oh, I've got the book.
[00:05:00] Don't worry.
[00:05:00] What's your favorite, favorite, favorite recipe in the book?
[00:05:04] I think it's probably all the alcohol ones.
[00:05:08] All the alcohol ones?
[00:05:08] There are a couple.
[00:05:09] Yeah, there's some cocktails in there.
[00:05:11] You whip them up real nice down the gullets.
[00:05:13] Down the gullets.
[00:05:15] Let's go.
[00:05:15] Are you doing okay?
[00:05:16] Yeah, I took over a roach, a cockroach.
[00:05:21] Just went zooming through the city.
[00:05:24] It was a venom cockroach.
[00:05:26] Venom roach.
[00:05:26] That's the spinoff I've been pitching.
[00:05:29] Venom cockroach.
[00:05:30] There's a coma in there.
[00:05:32] Venom colon cockroach.
[00:05:33] Can I jump in here?
[00:05:34] I'm the cockroach.
[00:05:35] Um, so that kind of bummed me out, first of all.
[00:05:39] Like the way that you tripped over, as if I don't have any say in the thing.
[00:05:44] Listen, we got Peter involved and no cockroaches were harmed in the making of the movie.
[00:05:51] Oh, oh really?
[00:05:52] Aside from the cockroach that I didn't damage.
[00:05:54] That's what I'm saying!
[00:05:56] Yeah.
[00:05:56] That's what I'm saying.
[00:05:57] Shove off!
[00:05:58] But I didn't get stepped on.
[00:05:58] I didn't get stepped on.
[00:06:00] Cockroach, can we be friends?
[00:06:02] What's in it for me?
[00:06:03] We can sing Monster Mash together.
[00:06:05] We can sing the Monster Mash together.
[00:06:07] You know, I love that song.
[00:06:08] Yeah.
[00:06:09] You like that one?
[00:06:10] We did the mash.
[00:06:12] We did the monster mash.
[00:06:14] The monster mash.
[00:06:15] It was a crazy monster mash.
[00:06:17] The monster mash.
[00:06:19] I don't know.
[00:06:20] The monster mash.
[00:06:27] It was weird.
[00:06:28] It was weird.
[00:06:28] It was, you know, sometimes the best thing about having two guests at once on the line,
[00:06:34] which we don't do often.
[00:06:35] We don't do it often.
[00:06:36] Is then we, for some reason, we go to Alonzo full screen.
[00:06:39] It's not like we could also totally listen, but I think, and so if you're watching on Philo,
[00:06:46] you got Venom, you got Cockroach, and you got full screen Alonzo just reacting.
[00:06:53] In our defense, we can't afford the visual rights to Venom.
[00:06:57] No.
[00:06:57] Much less Cockroach.
[00:06:58] We can't.
[00:06:59] But I'm glad they're happy and they sang Monster Mash together.
[00:07:04] Monster Mash.
[00:07:04] Why not?
[00:07:05] That's right.
[00:07:06] People are saying poor Alonzo in the chat and I don't get that at all because I, I
[00:07:12] mean.
[00:07:12] I get a front row seat to all this.
[00:07:14] I don't know what you're talking about.
[00:07:14] When this is on the best of, you're going to see.
[00:07:16] You're going to see.
[00:07:17] There's a video version of the best of.
[00:07:19] You're going to see.
[00:07:19] Alonzo was the big winner.
[00:07:21] He's the big winner.
[00:07:22] Yeah.
[00:07:22] Philo.tv slash DTH if you want to watch the show, but also the movies that we're going
[00:07:26] to be talking about this holiday season.
[00:07:28] Philo.tv slash DTH.
[00:07:29] Let's talk about The Groomsmen first.
[00:07:32] Let's get it out of the way.
[00:07:33] Rip it off like a bandaid.
[00:07:35] The Groomsmen Last Dance.
[00:07:39] October 31st, 2024 on Hallmark Plus and it went a little something like this.
[00:07:43] The movie kicks off at the initial wedding where Jackson is dancing with his daughter,
[00:07:48] Betty.
[00:07:50] And Betty drops a bomb that she's moving to Italy with her mom.
[00:07:54] Jackson is pretty miserable now.
[00:07:56] He runs a firm that represents social media influencers like a guy who just eats soup every morning.
[00:08:03] One day he gets a call from his ex-wife asking if Betty can come and stay with him for a while because she's got something going on with work, got to travel or something.
[00:08:13] And he's like, I got a better idea.
[00:08:15] Why don't I come to you?
[00:08:17] And so he goes to Italy.
[00:08:18] He gets a red convertible because it's Tyler Hines.
[00:08:21] Duh.
[00:08:21] And you have to.
[00:08:23] He almost hits a woman named Gabriella.
[00:08:27] And I'm sure though never going to see her.
[00:08:29] No, no, no.
[00:08:30] It was a one off.
[00:08:31] It was a one off.
[00:08:32] It was a one off.
[00:08:32] Yeah.
[00:08:34] Except he does because of course she runs the cafe that doesn't serve cappuccinos in the afternoon.
[00:08:41] It's not that they don't.
[00:08:41] It's just that you know you don't.
[00:08:44] It's not done.
[00:08:44] You don't order it.
[00:08:45] You know that you don't order it.
[00:08:46] They continue to bump into each other.
[00:08:49] I believe three separate occasions they bump into each other in public.
[00:08:54] The friction that was once like, oh, you almost hit me with a car turns to a little schmackual tension.
[00:09:03] Like, hey, I want you to hit me with your car.
[00:09:07] He even builds her a friction.
[00:09:10] That's exactly a family show.
[00:09:13] He even builds her a new website, which is really nice.
[00:09:16] She doesn't want that.
[00:09:17] She doesn't want that.
[00:09:18] In the year of our Lord 2024.
[00:09:19] I know.
[00:09:19] It's unbelievable.
[00:09:20] But Jackson is like, listen, lady, nothing's going to happen between us.
[00:09:24] It can't.
[00:09:25] You know, he's a bit hesitant to the idea of love since, you know, he's been there.
[00:09:31] He's done that.
[00:09:32] He got divorced.
[00:09:33] So why even put myself in that position again?
[00:09:37] The boys, you know, the boys, the groomsmen, they come to visit and it is time for the mask dance.
[00:09:45] It's an outside mask dance situation.
[00:09:47] Classic mask dance.
[00:09:48] And they all go and they try to get Jackson.
[00:09:51] Hey, go out there, go dance.
[00:09:53] And he's hesitant.
[00:09:54] But ultimately, he does end up having a very saucy dance with a masked stranger.
[00:09:59] And it is.
[00:10:00] Who could it be?
[00:10:01] Who could it be?
[00:10:01] Who could it be doing this nice dance?
[00:10:03] Yes.
[00:10:05] It is hot, hot, hot.
[00:10:07] Oh, it's you.
[00:10:07] We knew it all along.
[00:10:10] It is hot, hot, hot.
[00:10:12] He even dips her low.
[00:10:14] Yes.
[00:10:15] Brings her up slow.
[00:10:16] Yes.
[00:10:16] Wow.
[00:10:17] It is a moment.
[00:10:18] But he leaves before finding out who it is.
[00:10:20] Who could it be now?
[00:10:22] Who could it be now?
[00:10:24] The next day.
[00:10:26] Is it mystery 101?
[00:10:28] Is it back?
[00:10:28] The next day, they're all at the cafe and Gabriela slips and almost falls.
[00:10:34] But he's there to catch her like dip style.
[00:10:39] You know, you catch her in the dip position.
[00:10:41] Classic.
[00:10:41] And he realizes in this moment that it is her that he danced with.
[00:10:45] And so he goes to talk to her about it.
[00:10:47] And she's like, sorry, I didn't know it was you.
[00:10:50] Liar.
[00:10:51] Could have been anybody.
[00:10:52] Could have been anybody.
[00:10:52] The next day, he's walking with Betty and Betty tells him that he's not dating for any other reason than being scared.
[00:11:02] And it's not fair to either of them because I guess she really wants her dad to find somebody.
[00:11:09] The following day, Gabriela brings over some lasagna and he offers to drive her back home.
[00:11:14] The car breaks down though.
[00:11:16] And so they end up walking back to the city and he opens up about everything.
[00:11:20] And she tells him that she knew it was him all along during the dance.
[00:11:25] They are about to kiss, but the sprinkler turns on.
[00:11:29] And everybody knows.
[00:11:30] And you know this.
[00:11:31] I think anybody who has seen these movies before is you can't kiss while wet.
[00:11:36] It is a rule in these type of movies.
[00:11:38] As soon as that sprinkler starts gently spraying water all over your bodies, there's nothing you can do.
[00:11:43] Whether the waters can be lying above.
[00:11:44] The rule is extinguished.
[00:11:45] Oh, gross.
[00:11:46] We got to stop this here in the privacy of the vineyards.
[00:11:50] Gross.
[00:11:51] Can't move forward.
[00:11:52] There might be steam and that really doesn't help me anymore.
[00:11:55] That would be awful.
[00:11:56] He joins her for dinner at her father's house.
[00:11:59] It's a big house actually.
[00:12:00] Big, big house.
[00:12:00] Lots, lots of room.
[00:12:01] And at the end of the night, he's like, I'd love to make something work between us, but it just doesn't make sense.
[00:12:06] How can we possibly do this?
[00:12:08] She's like, well, we'll always have that dance.
[00:12:12] And he, you know, it doesn't take long for him to realize that he done goofed.
[00:12:15] Yeah.
[00:12:16] And so he goes and he tries to make things right.
[00:12:19] She like left him a note and whatnot.
[00:12:21] He shows up and he lets her know that, turns out, I actually kind of want to be here anyway.
[00:12:27] My daughter.
[00:12:28] It turns out my daughter lives in this town.
[00:12:30] So this actually is going to be really great for me.
[00:12:32] He decides that he's going to stay and they kiss.
[00:12:34] Cut back to the narrator.
[00:12:35] Remember the narrator from the other two movies?
[00:12:38] It's Betty, guys.
[00:12:40] It's Betty.
[00:12:40] Betty, are you okay?
[00:12:41] Are you okay?
[00:12:42] It's the daughter.
[00:12:43] She's older now and she's marrying Milo.
[00:12:45] Are you okay, Betty?
[00:12:46] Milo from the beginner.
[00:12:47] Milo shows up and tells her that he's loved her since they were kids.
[00:12:52] You would have known that had you beat me in this arcade game.
[00:12:57] They get married.
[00:12:58] Everybody gives speeches.
[00:13:01] Everyone is allotted time to give a speech.
[00:13:03] And then they all dance.
[00:13:05] And finally, the groomsmen do their special dance again.
[00:13:10] Shake your groove thing.
[00:13:11] And that, my friends, was the groomsmen.
[00:13:14] The last dance.
[00:13:16] We did it.
[00:13:18] Let's take a break.
[00:13:19] We'll come back and we'll break this movie down here on Deck the Hallmark.
[00:13:32] Everybody, welcome back.
[00:13:33] We're talking about the groomsmen.
[00:13:35] Last dance.
[00:13:37] The third and final groomsmen movie.
[00:13:40] Let's break it down.
[00:13:41] We're going to start with a hot take so we share exactly how we felt about this movie.
[00:13:44] Alonzo?
[00:13:47] I've had a certain level of generosity towards these films.
[00:13:52] Watched the first one on a plane.
[00:13:54] The second one was a gay movie, which we don't get much of.
[00:13:57] So, you know, whatever goodwill I had towards these films and these characters pretty much drained out of my body by the time I got to the end of this one.
[00:14:09] Thank you.
[00:14:09] I do love a movie where a man recognizes a woman by weight.
[00:14:14] But, yeah, this is, this is.
[00:14:19] I have held this exact amount of pounds before.
[00:14:22] Yeah.
[00:14:23] Wait a minute.
[00:14:24] I know you.
[00:14:26] This is like sea level hallmark for the most part, which is a pity because I think it had, there was a concept going for it and people behind it that we like.
[00:14:35] But, yeah, this was a drag.
[00:14:38] Yeah.
[00:14:39] Not a lot of there, there.
[00:14:40] No, no.
[00:14:42] Um, Tyler Hines is in this movie.
[00:14:44] Yes.
[00:14:45] He's the star of this movie.
[00:14:46] Boy, howdy.
[00:14:46] Yes.
[00:14:48] I think we're, we're better for it.
[00:14:50] And, uh, he's, has he ever looked better?
[00:14:54] Uh, I don't, some, there's something going on in this movie.
[00:14:57] I will say, hear me out clearly.
[00:15:00] Only equivocally, no, he's never looked better.
[00:15:02] I don't know what, I, what was going on.
[00:15:04] I don't know if it was the sun over there.
[00:15:07] He, there's just, cause I've met Tyler like numerous times.
[00:15:11] I met him.
[00:15:12] And sometimes I'll meet him and I'll be like, dude, you were really worn down.
[00:15:15] You're doing all this for your fans.
[00:15:17] Non-stop.
[00:15:17] You need a break.
[00:15:19] He looks like he was like in the sun and, and having plenty of rest.
[00:15:24] And he, he always is a 10 of 10.
[00:15:27] The guy looks amazing in this movie.
[00:15:29] He looks like he couldn't be having more fun.
[00:15:31] He looks phenomenal.
[00:15:32] With the worst material he's been given.
[00:15:36] I, I'll just say this.
[00:15:38] Tyler looked great.
[00:15:39] Uh, sounded great.
[00:15:40] And really, really enjoyed Tyler Hines in this movie.
[00:15:44] You know what happens if you say bad things?
[00:15:45] Who doesn't?
[00:15:46] Um, I also was confused because they get to the end of this movie.
[00:15:52] And by the end of this movie, I mean the first movie, uh, the one where it ends with a kiss, like we're, like we're used to.
[00:15:59] And, uh, I was like, oh, this is a really quick movie.
[00:16:02] Yeah.
[00:16:03] And then it wasn't over.
[00:16:05] No.
[00:16:05] Uh, I realized, oh yeah, there's this thing that I just don't, I don't care about it, unfortunately.
[00:16:13] Yeah.
[00:16:14] And, um, I think if this movie, and I don't know, maybe this is a, maybe this is a hot take with you guys.
[00:16:20] But if this movie was just a Tyler Hines movie, I would, uh, I would be like, I think this is my favorite one of the, of the three of them.
[00:16:27] And is that Tyler Hines?
[00:16:29] Maybe.
[00:16:30] It might be.
[00:16:31] I'm sorry.
[00:16:31] I'm only human.
[00:16:32] But then there was this 20 minute tag, uh, that got it to, to time.
[00:16:39] And that was, uh, tough for me.
[00:16:42] Unfortunately, I just, I didn't want, I didn't want it.
[00:16:45] I just, I just wanted that story.
[00:16:46] And so, um, I'll just say this really.
[00:16:49] I appreciate the attempt at the way in which they tried to tell these movies with the narrator and the thing.
[00:16:54] It was a bold attempt and I appreciated it.
[00:16:58] Um, no, I don't think that they pulled it off.
[00:17:00] It was my least favorite part of all three of these movies.
[00:17:03] Um, but you know, it is what it is.
[00:17:07] We did it.
[00:17:07] We had some fun.
[00:17:08] Tyler Hines, dad gum it.
[00:17:10] And, um, you know, sometimes you do things and you're like, did we need to do it?
[00:17:16] And you know, you get to the end of it and you go, we didn't need to.
[00:17:18] And now, you know, now, you know, now, you know, you didn't need to, and that's okay.
[00:17:22] But don't hear him not saying Tyler Hines.
[00:17:25] Holy smokes.
[00:17:26] Uh, insane.
[00:17:29] Do we think the idea behind these movies was like, let's have a male centric story.
[00:17:33] And then at some point somebody thought, oh, let's not.
[00:17:36] There's a woman who's really front and center just in case.
[00:17:41] I know that you're not with me on this, but these movies, like it just give me the three Grimsman.
[00:17:45] That's all that I care about in this movie.
[00:17:47] And so it's, I think somewhere on a board or on a pad somewhere is a, the, a good idea for these movies.
[00:17:54] And I think it got hijacked by what we need to do versus what we should do.
[00:17:59] And that's unfortunate.
[00:18:00] Um, I'll say this, uh, sometimes you do forget that, that the wattage of Tyler Hines as a star on these movies is so magnanimous.
[00:18:12] Like it's so much bigger than literally anyone else that are in these movies.
[00:18:17] And that does not mean I think he's the best of all the actors.
[00:18:19] What I'm saying is, is that he is the draw right now on the homework channel.
[00:18:25] He also just puts you in a trance and, and there is something about him.
[00:18:29] And I, I'm glad we had the venom monster mash bit with the cockroach because the reality is, is that a lot of the heinies will turn it off before they have to hear this, which is great.
[00:18:39] Uh, it's great.
[00:18:40] It works out for everybody.
[00:18:41] And Tyler Hines is just, he has that thing and you don't, most people that have that it factor don't stay on the homework channel.
[00:18:52] And that's not meant to be, uh, like throwing anybody under the bus.
[00:18:55] It's just, he has such star wattage.
[00:18:58] And here's the thing is, I think that the IMDB list on these movies is intentionally missing people because his leading lady, this, uh, very attractive Italian woman.
[00:19:07] She's not on IMDB.
[00:19:09] I don't even know her name.
[00:19:11] She, she is his match in a, in an attraction standpoint.
[00:19:16] No question.
[00:19:16] I had no problem with her.
[00:19:18] The problem is, is that the worst, the best of these movies, you want them to be longer.
[00:19:24] I wanted built more Christmas to be longer.
[00:19:26] I wanted round and round to be longer.
[00:19:27] The worst of these movies could have been an email, right?
[00:19:31] And so this movie shows that you can make most of these movies in like 61 minutes.
[00:19:37] And they, they do that.
[00:19:39] And all of the trappings, I don't, there are a couple of scenes in this movie that I did laugh with the three groomsmen together.
[00:19:45] I thought that they, the movies got, but I still don't want the groomsmen together for a whole movie, but this, this movie, I, this is going to sound terrible, but I think whichever movie Tyler Hines was the lead in.
[00:20:02] The one was going to sound terrible.
[00:20:04] The one that you probably pull for the couple, the most, because he just is, has this ability to make you care a little bit more.
[00:20:13] Um, this movie though is trash.
[00:20:16] It's, it's like, it's really bad.
[00:20:19] It's bad because the, the more risky gambit of this thing with the daughter telling the story from the future didn't work.
[00:20:26] It would have been better as not a twist.
[00:20:28] It would have been better if we had just known from the get go why she's doing this and who she is.
[00:20:32] It doesn't work for so many reasons.
[00:20:34] We'll get into the weight.
[00:20:35] What?
[00:20:35] I think that's number one.
[00:20:36] Number two, you don't have a cohesive story here.
[00:20:41] You literally have a, Hey, I can't be with you.
[00:20:44] You know why I'm in the States with a ton of money and a job.
[00:20:47] I hate.
[00:20:48] Meanwhile, you're stuck here in picturesque Italy with my daughter that I want to be near.
[00:20:53] This will never work out.
[00:20:54] And I could never do my job remotely.
[00:20:56] Well, but just the idea, like literally, do you have to hit him over the head with the fact that he needs to move?
[00:21:02] To Italy.
[00:21:03] It is at least in the first movie.
[00:21:05] It's like, I'm a doctor in Philadelphia.
[00:21:07] You're a doctor in Bulgaria.
[00:21:09] Both of us, you know, immovable object, unstoppable force.
[00:21:11] This is, I can't move to Italy because I've got to move to Italy.
[00:21:15] Like, you know, like this movie, he should have shown up almost like ran over this incredibly attractive Italian woman and gone, well, I'm moving to Italy.
[00:21:26] That should have been it.
[00:21:27] That should have been the whole movie.
[00:21:29] And so they try to do this thing with walking the kid to school.
[00:21:32] They try to do this thing with the last dance, actually being the groomsman dancing.
[00:21:36] And you know what?
[00:21:37] Ron Oliver's trying.
[00:21:39] He's trying to do all of these things.
[00:21:41] And I think if you gave him the budget and time to do it the way he wanted to, he would knock it out of the park.
[00:21:47] That's not what we get.
[00:21:48] This movie's unfortunate.
[00:21:50] It is not a good movie.
[00:21:52] It has great, a great star in it.
[00:21:54] And it has a couple of moments where you laugh, but it's a really bad movie.
[00:21:57] And I'm so thankful we're done with the groomsman trilogy.
[00:22:00] Well, have I got news for you?
[00:22:02] No, I'm just kidding.
[00:22:02] Oh, please don't.
[00:22:03] Don't say it.
[00:22:05] It's time for all the feels.
[00:22:07] We're talking about what this movie gave us feels.
[00:22:09] Alonzo.
[00:22:10] I like the dad embarrassment of this movie.
[00:22:14] Like the fact that he insists on like walk his daughter to school, pick her up for school.
[00:22:19] And she's just increasingly like, oh, could you not?
[00:22:22] Like even though they have a great relationship and they're close to each other.
[00:22:25] She's still a teenager.
[00:22:27] She's still a teenager.
[00:22:28] And she's still just like, could you not?
[00:22:30] Yeah.
[00:22:30] Could you just let me do this?
[00:22:32] Yeah.
[00:22:33] Like, you know, a person who is, you know, 14.
[00:22:36] And I thought she did a good job.
[00:22:37] She is.
[00:22:38] No, no, no.
[00:22:38] No, there's a lot of like, I don't, I don't, I'm not blaming the actors.
[00:22:43] No.
[00:22:43] Like, I agree with you that Tyler Hines is one of the best of these guys.
[00:22:47] I think that he brings a, he brings a charge of sex to Hallmark movies that a lot of other
[00:22:53] actors don't.
[00:22:53] And those guys choose not to.
[00:22:55] And they don't because of the material that is not asking for that.
[00:22:59] But Hines, no matter how chaste this material is, there's something a little dirty going
[00:23:04] on in his eyes that I think gives a pretty good spark that, that other people don't necessarily
[00:23:08] do.
[00:23:09] So, yeah, no, I like the groomsman schtick is still fun, but it's just like sort of so back
[00:23:14] burnered here that like, yeah, I'm not blaming the actors.
[00:23:17] This is about the writing.
[00:23:18] Yeah.
[00:23:18] Um, I love the fact that the Italian restaurant has a terrible website because so often in
[00:23:25] these movies, we have these web designers, that's what they do.
[00:23:28] That's their job.
[00:23:29] Oh, I'm going to create a website in 2024.
[00:23:31] And they're terrible.
[00:23:32] And so at least this one has an intentionally terrible one, uh, which is, which is new and
[00:23:38] different for Hallmark.
[00:23:39] Uh, and I have to say the masked ball dance is pretty good.
[00:23:43] And it is in fact, I would say far more effective than the shaker groove thing.
[00:23:49] Three buddies.
[00:23:50] Well, agreed.
[00:23:51] The dance.
[00:23:51] And I've found out her name is Elena Rusconi.
[00:23:54] The dance between Hines and Rusconi is different.
[00:23:58] I think we can all agree.
[00:23:59] But I'm just saying as a piece of choreography and as a thing that conveys how these people
[00:24:05] feel about each other, that is a moment where like you get some longer takes and some like
[00:24:10] the cameras out wider, as opposed to the cut closeup, cut closeup, closeup of the three
[00:24:16] guys dance, which we'll get to in the way it was.
[00:24:19] We learned that an entire room of people pick up on how to do it like that.
[00:24:22] Like that.
[00:24:23] And they, while the three groomsmen.
[00:24:25] Well, they've seen it so many times.
[00:24:26] While the three groomsmen that invented it all look like they're trying so hard to stay
[00:24:31] locked in.
[00:24:32] Exactly.
[00:24:33] Thank you.
[00:24:33] They are trying to remember this thing like they just learned it.
[00:24:36] But everybody else in the room is locked in.
[00:24:39] That's right.
[00:24:39] In the next, let's do it.
[00:24:40] In the next year, will there be another Tyler Hines group dance?
[00:24:47] We've got two of them now between the, and we're not, I'm not counting.
[00:24:51] I'm sure they're going to do a dance.
[00:24:52] Three Wisermen is going to have something.
[00:24:54] Three Wisermen is going to have a new one.
[00:24:55] Will there be another?
[00:24:56] It seems to be a thing now where they're like, let's get Tyler Hines to get out there
[00:24:59] and dance.
[00:25:00] I'm going to go no.
[00:25:01] Okay.
[00:25:01] Yeah.
[00:25:02] Okay.
[00:25:04] That, not the group dance, but the mask dance was, wow.
[00:25:10] Yeah.
[00:25:12] Honestly, it might be the reason why they had to throw it on the plus.
[00:25:15] Like Hallmark Chandler.
[00:25:17] They can't.
[00:25:20] To your point, Alonza, there's something about Tyler where it's just like you look at him
[00:25:23] and you're like, oh wow, that guy, that guy's fully aroused right now.
[00:25:27] It's like there's just something going on there.
[00:25:31] That's going to have to be on deck to Hallmark Plus.
[00:25:36] Brainwiljamplus.com.
[00:25:36] That's not what you were trying to say.
[00:25:38] No, it's not.
[00:25:39] No, I was, but it didn't.
[00:25:42] I don't think it means what you think it means.
[00:25:43] No, I didn't mean it in the way in which I meant it.
[00:25:48] What it was, was.
[00:25:49] What it was.
[00:25:51] No, he has this look about him where it's like, oh wow, he is very into her.
[00:25:56] Yes.
[00:25:56] Is that a nicer way to say it?
[00:25:57] Way better.
[00:25:58] And accurate.
[00:25:59] So that, never more clear than during that scene, I think.
[00:26:03] But also, you know, you could watch these movies and you could forget that they're directed
[00:26:09] by Ron Oliver, who's really great at directing these movies.
[00:26:13] And then he reminds you.
[00:26:15] He's like, I'm Ron Oliver.
[00:26:16] I'm going to do some things.
[00:26:17] And so while he caught her and was like, I know this weight, was funny when you put it
[00:26:25] like that, Alonzo.
[00:26:26] The way in which they did the catch, the quick jump back to the dip and then back was really
[00:26:32] well done.
[00:26:33] Yeah.
[00:26:34] Yeah.
[00:26:34] And also in that dance scene, you get what I think for my money is the funniest groomsman
[00:26:39] scene.
[00:26:39] And it's Jonathan Bennett going, dip her like that.
[00:26:42] And then he dips her.
[00:26:43] And then she, and then Jonathan Bennett goes, dip her again.
[00:26:45] And BJ Britt goes, double dip Jackson.
[00:26:48] And I thought that was really, really funny.
[00:26:49] Look at you.
[00:26:50] That was funny.
[00:26:51] That leads me to my double dip Jackson.
[00:26:53] Amazing.
[00:26:54] I'm nothing if not consistent.
[00:26:56] Double dip Jackson.
[00:26:57] Amazing.
[00:26:57] I don't want to be clear.
[00:26:58] It is not a knockout by either, but on the absolute cards of the trilogy, I will say that
[00:27:06] I was wrong.
[00:27:07] And I do prefer the groomsman over the wedding veil, but it is very close.
[00:27:10] He's back.
[00:27:11] So I just want to be clear.
[00:27:13] My feels is I was wrong on that.
[00:27:15] Thank you.
[00:27:15] Even though the first one, first one I stand by, but as a whole, this is slightly more enjoyable
[00:27:21] than the wedding veil, but it's very, very close.
[00:27:23] And then my other one is I want to go to Italy and eat and drink for 10 days, maybe a week.
[00:27:28] I probably get after a week, but yes.
[00:27:30] There you go.
[00:27:30] Let's take a quick break.
[00:27:32] We'll come back.
[00:27:32] We'll get to the way what and the what and the homework here on deck the hallmark.
[00:27:35] Deck the hallmark.
[00:27:36] It's fine.
[00:27:37] I got it.
[00:27:37] Venom and the cockroach.
[00:27:46] Welcome back.
[00:27:46] Venom, are you back?
[00:27:49] Yeah, I am.
[00:27:50] Hey, man.
[00:27:50] You were talking about Tiger being four hours and I showed up out of nowhere.
[00:27:54] I know.
[00:27:54] That was all.
[00:27:55] A lot of people were wondering why did I use that term.
[00:27:58] You know.
[00:27:59] Yeah.
[00:27:59] Now I come and wonder.
[00:28:00] I know you do.
[00:28:02] I know you do.
[00:28:03] I love you, buddy.
[00:28:04] I love you too, man.
[00:28:05] I love you too.
[00:28:07] I've come back around.
[00:28:08] We're good.
[00:28:09] We're good now.
[00:28:11] We're good now.
[00:28:12] Yeah.
[00:28:12] Did you hear the aroused thing too?
[00:28:14] I love the aroused thing.
[00:28:15] It worked on me.
[00:28:16] It worked on me.
[00:28:17] It never wants to match if you don't.
[00:28:18] A lot of people think Brian doesn't know what it means.
[00:28:21] And I say, Brian knows.
[00:28:22] I don't think he knows.
[00:28:23] There's a chance he doesn't.
[00:28:24] Did he say many things he could have said?
[00:28:26] He's a lot of things he could have said.
[00:28:27] But he didn't.
[00:28:29] He's a wordsmith.
[00:28:31] He's a wordsmith.
[00:28:32] He's a wordsmith.
[00:28:32] He puts the plus in Hallmark.
[00:28:34] That's right.
[00:28:35] That's right.
[00:28:35] Hey, Alonzo, how are you, buddy?
[00:28:38] I'm great.
[00:28:39] It's, you know, Halloween went well, I'm hoping.
[00:28:42] No.
[00:28:43] Really bad for me.
[00:28:45] Really?
[00:28:46] Oh, no candy?
[00:28:47] Or?
[00:28:49] Well, I didn't want to bring this up.
[00:28:52] But no one invited me to go trick-or-treating this year.
[00:28:54] Well, you do end up getting in all the candy wrappers that can't sleep on the floor on the show.
[00:28:59] I think that's a gross misrepresentation of what we do.
[00:29:03] What do you do, the cockroach?
[00:29:05] We wait an appropriate amount of time.
[00:29:09] And then, yeah, we do get in the bags.
[00:29:10] But it's appropriate.
[00:29:12] Well, cockroach, you could have gotten a group together.
[00:29:14] You'd have to wait to be invited by somebody else.
[00:29:16] Yeah.
[00:29:17] You think I could?
[00:29:18] Take some responsibility.
[00:29:19] Sure, yeah.
[00:29:20] Step up.
[00:29:20] I bet there are thousands of other roaches that would have joined you.
[00:29:25] You could have all gotten into an overcoat and gone as like, you know.
[00:29:28] I could have dressed up as a roach.
[00:29:30] You'd be really better.
[00:29:32] Alonzo, thank you so much.
[00:29:34] That means a lot.
[00:29:35] I'm here for you now.
[00:29:36] I love you.
[00:29:38] Love you.
[00:29:40] It's time for the wait what?
[00:29:41] It's where we...
[00:29:42] Can't believe we got...
[00:29:43] They were in both segments.
[00:29:45] Amazing.
[00:29:49] Carson calling him over the couch, you know.
[00:29:51] We'll always have that moment where Alonzo told cockroach that he loves him.
[00:29:55] That's right.
[00:29:55] We'll always have that.
[00:29:55] Can't take that away.
[00:29:56] That's exactly right.
[00:29:57] That's right.
[00:29:57] It's time for the wait what?
[00:29:58] You had me at Monster Mash.
[00:29:59] I know.
[00:30:00] I know.
[00:30:01] That's all it takes.
[00:30:02] You get fully aroused.
[00:30:03] It's time for...
[00:30:06] It's time for the wait what?
[00:30:07] It's where we talk about what in this movie made us go away.
[00:30:08] What?
[00:30:09] Alonzo!
[00:30:10] This episode's debuting at like 10 o'clock at night, right?
[00:30:15] After hours.
[00:30:16] That's right.
[00:30:17] Okay.
[00:30:17] The big wait what here is Jackson's resistance to love.
[00:30:24] And like, I'm not...
[00:30:26] Again, I'm not blaming Tyler Hines for this.
[00:30:28] But as written, it just...
[00:30:29] I never bought the fact that this like successful, you know, convertible driving dude is going
[00:30:37] to be like, nope, can't date.
[00:30:38] Going to raise my daughter and not get involved again.
[00:30:41] And it's like...
[00:30:42] And he clearly had a non-acrimonious divorce.
[00:30:44] Like, you see him and his ex-wife like, yeah, it didn't work out because she was in the military
[00:30:48] and, you know, she's a troop traveling the world.
[00:30:50] But like, it's not like there's any kind of bitterness or rancor between them.
[00:30:53] So I don't get why he is so hesitant to like re-enter that pool.
[00:30:57] And the movie doesn't, I don't think, build that well enough, even though it becomes important
[00:31:02] to the plot.
[00:31:05] The kid is a good actress.
[00:31:08] But she, again, it's the writing.
[00:31:09] She is given some like real adult-y wisdom at moments with the dad that I'm like, yeah,
[00:31:15] this is, you are talking like a screenwriter, not like a 14-year-old girl.
[00:31:19] But, you know, what are you going to do?
[00:31:22] Again, with the phones I wrote down, which is like in the first movie, they get lost
[00:31:27] in the forest because they thought they were going to rely on the maps and their phones.
[00:31:30] It's like, well, yeah, dude, you're in the middle of a forest.
[00:31:32] Maybe you're not going to have signal connection.
[00:31:35] And then he GPSs the way to the vineyard.
[00:31:39] And rather than listen to her, who's been there a million times, it's like, nope, going to
[00:31:42] follow the phone.
[00:31:43] And A, of course you're going to run out of cell coverage at some point.
[00:31:48] And second of all, like anybody who has used Google Maps enough times knows that they're
[00:31:54] not always reliable, that they'll take you into some weird cul-de-sacs and shortcuts that
[00:32:00] make no sense or, you know, trying to take a left from a two-way stop.
[00:32:03] Like just if you're with somebody in the car who grew up there and knows exactly how to
[00:32:08] get there, she gets precedence over your precious GPS.
[00:32:11] How did she let him keep doing that?
[00:32:12] That's terrible.
[00:32:14] Yeah, exactly.
[00:32:15] She'd be like, no, turn, turn, turn.
[00:32:17] Yeah.
[00:32:17] You know, like it's literally where I grew up.
[00:32:20] Yeah.
[00:32:21] That she suddenly gets very passive about this.
[00:32:23] I'm like, eh, I don't buy any of this.
[00:32:25] Dan, you still wouldn't listen to me if we were in Titusville, Florida.
[00:32:27] I mean, I got this.
[00:32:28] I would 100% listen to you if I was in Titusville, Florida.
[00:32:31] You think so?
[00:32:31] I would have the maps going, of course, but I would listen to you.
[00:32:33] You think so?
[00:32:34] Yeah.
[00:32:34] Okay.
[00:32:35] It's your hometown.
[00:32:35] I know, but you're a driver.
[00:32:37] That's true.
[00:32:37] I love to drive.
[00:32:38] But if I were a boat.
[00:32:40] Don't even say nothing.
[00:32:41] Don't talk about it.
[00:32:42] Yes.
[00:32:44] All of my other white wats are about the epilogue.
[00:32:47] Yeah.
[00:32:47] Yeah, we've got plenty there.
[00:32:48] Oh, yeah.
[00:32:49] Okay.
[00:32:49] First of all, when he reveals to her that the whole high score in the video game.
[00:32:55] Oh, my gosh.
[00:32:55] It's not even the same video game.
[00:32:58] They're not in the bar that they've been hanging out in the whole time.
[00:33:01] They're in this other bar where the Irish lady runs the thing.
[00:33:05] Yes.
[00:33:05] So, like, what's even happening with that?
[00:33:08] I got so, before you move on, I got so caught up on that.
[00:33:12] That, Alonzo.
[00:33:13] That it took me completely out of the fact that when Bran said it in the synopsis, how ridiculous of a thing it was for him to do.
[00:33:23] Yeah.
[00:33:23] Because I was so, like, this isn't the same game.
[00:33:26] It's not the same game at all.
[00:33:28] It's a different unit.
[00:33:28] Yeah.
[00:33:30] It looked like the same to me.
[00:33:32] It's the same game, but it's not the same, like, physical arcade unit.
[00:33:37] It's in a different bar.
[00:33:37] It looked like, when they went there, though, it looked like the same location to me.
[00:33:41] I assume that they went to that bar.
[00:33:42] Like, they left there.
[00:33:44] You see the front of the bar, and it's not the same sign that we've been seeing in the other two movies of the place where they hang out.
[00:33:49] It is a completely different bar.
[00:33:51] Yeah, I thought it was a different place altogether because this woman would have known everyone.
[00:33:55] Yes.
[00:33:55] I assume that she would have seen her grow up.
[00:33:57] I assume that she was at a different bar telling the story, and then he takes her to there.
[00:34:02] No, no, no.
[00:34:03] They're in the same bar.
[00:34:04] They're still in the same bar.
[00:34:04] Well, then I got nothing there for you.
[00:34:06] I'm trying, guys.
[00:34:09] So, yeah, so that we won't even get into the logistics of, like, how long it would take them to get a high score again before going back to the church.
[00:34:16] All right.
[00:34:16] At the church, why are the groomsmen Milo's groomsmen?
[00:34:22] Yeah.
[00:34:23] This kid has no friends, and he's got to get, like, his step-uncle and his two friends from childhood to stand up with him on his big day?
[00:34:30] Like, I get it, movie.
[00:34:32] Come on.
[00:34:33] My man was like, hey, I know we're getting married soon, but it turns out I don't have any friends.
[00:34:38] Yeah.
[00:34:38] And if you could have let me borrow your dad and his two bros, that would be great.
[00:34:45] That would be great.
[00:34:45] That would be doing me a solid.
[00:34:47] Yeah.
[00:34:47] If you could help me out, that is the most – the movie doesn't allow these two people who are getting married to have a wedding that is representative of them at all.
[00:34:57] Right.
[00:34:57] It's independent of these three dudes that we've been following along.
[00:35:00] It's like getting taken to the prom by your brother.
[00:35:02] Yeah.
[00:35:02] Yeah.
[00:35:03] Yeah.
[00:35:04] That's the best-case scenario.
[00:35:09] Also, we see Betty age from 14 to, let's say, 24.
[00:35:14] Yeah.
[00:35:14] Ten years.
[00:35:15] Let's say ten years.
[00:35:17] Everybody else has apparently spent that decade encased in Tupperware.
[00:35:21] That's right.
[00:35:21] There's not a gray hair to be found among three dudes.
[00:35:24] Jonathan Bennett decided to have his – right where his sideburns come in, have that a little painted gray.
[00:35:32] A touch.
[00:35:32] It's the weirdest thing in the world.
[00:35:34] It's like either do this or don't do it.
[00:35:36] Yeah.
[00:35:37] So, like, there's that.
[00:35:38] But, like, BJ Britt's mom who comes back in to do another wacky thing.
[00:35:44] She's nothing.
[00:35:45] Oh, she looks maybe better than she did ten years ago.
[00:35:47] Yes, exactly.
[00:35:48] I think fresher than the previous decade.
[00:35:50] Heather Hemsack.
[00:35:51] All these characters, like, could he – I'm not saying they all have to put on, like, the old lady putty makeup.
[00:35:56] But, like, a little something.
[00:35:58] Yeah.
[00:35:58] Let's acknowledge that it's not 2024 anymore.
[00:36:03] And then we get to the reception.
[00:36:05] And it's like the groomsmen are giving the speeches.
[00:36:07] I'm like, is this a thing where they just show up and make every event about them?
[00:36:11] Yeah.
[00:36:12] Yeah.
[00:36:13] Because, like, again, it's like who – this is not the conversation we would be having as many –
[00:36:27] but – and yet here we are and it's about them again.
[00:36:29] But there's no way around, at least for me, watching it feeling like they shot this within 24 hours of all the stuff they shot for the other two movies.
[00:36:39] Yes.
[00:36:39] And I know it.
[00:36:40] It doesn't feel lived in.
[00:36:42] It doesn't feel earned.
[00:36:43] It feels weird and forced.
[00:36:45] And I hate that for them, but I also hate it for me.
[00:36:48] Yeah.
[00:36:49] It's like I get it.
[00:36:50] You're on a budget and you're in a hurry here.
[00:36:52] But, like, it's like the Greek wedding where, like, a year has passed, but everyone's seated in the same seat for the flowers.
[00:36:58] Yeah.
[00:36:59] And then this one where it's like, yeah, 10 years have passed, but this ballroom has not budged an inch.
[00:37:06] Is that it?
[00:37:07] Yeah.
[00:37:08] Thank you.
[00:37:10] You know, I did get a kick out of the fact that these fellas – it is breakfast.
[00:37:15] When they come over there, Tyler Hines brings him some berries and some yogurt or something.
[00:37:20] He's like, this is breakfast?
[00:37:22] He's like, what will you eat for breakfast over here?
[00:37:25] Gabriella brings over a lasagna and they go, give me that for breakfast, which, again, lasagna to start your day.
[00:37:32] It's bold.
[00:37:32] It's a bold way to start your day.
[00:37:34] It is Italy, though.
[00:37:35] It is Italy, yes, which is probably a good thing I don't live over there because it's the worst than it is currently for me.
[00:37:42] You can get that and the yogurt, though.
[00:37:44] It really balance.
[00:37:44] Yeah.
[00:37:45] It's a probiotic, man.
[00:37:48] You know, it's very nice when Tyler Hines says you're the most amazing woman I've ever met until you think about the fact that –
[00:37:56] He has two other women in his life?
[00:37:57] Yeah.
[00:37:57] Like the mother of his daughter who, you know, is a troop.
[00:38:04] His daughter who seems pretty cool, well-rounded, good head on her shoulders.
[00:38:09] Gabriella, though.
[00:38:10] Lots of good advice.
[00:38:10] They got nothing.
[00:38:11] No, they don't.
[00:38:12] They got nothing on you.
[00:38:15] The game thing is crazy to me.
[00:38:18] It's insane.
[00:38:19] One, I've never – listen, this might come as a surprise.
[00:38:22] I've never gotten a high score before.
[00:38:24] Is that how it works?
[00:38:25] You've never gotten a high score?
[00:38:26] I've never gotten a high score before.
[00:38:28] I'm not a big arcade guy.
[00:38:29] Yeah.
[00:38:29] But is that how it works?
[00:38:31] When you get a high score, does it show you the last person and you change their name?
[00:38:35] You get to put your initials in.
[00:38:37] And the weird part about that is that his thing was somehow he embedded in this game
[00:38:43] that if you beat the high score, the initials become the full name.
[00:38:48] Full name.
[00:38:49] Which I'm almost positive you could go to just a leaderboard that would show you that whenever you wanted to.
[00:38:54] But what he's saying there also is if you –
[00:38:58] He's a computer hacker is what he is.
[00:39:00] Is if you would have beaten my high score, then the high score that you beat, the full name would pop up.
[00:39:07] Or the person that you just beat.
[00:39:09] It wouldn't.
[00:39:10] But that's what happens in this.
[00:39:11] Okay.
[00:39:11] Also, Jonathan Bennett says in his toast, I'm not going to let you beat me at this video game anymore.
[00:39:17] But he never did beat her because the whole time that she thought he was MLB, he wasn't.
[00:39:22] I guess maybe he's in on it.
[00:39:23] Or he's convinced himself that it is him.
[00:39:25] I don't know.
[00:39:26] That supposedly –
[00:39:29] That whole thing.
[00:39:30] But here's the thing that really got me mad is she does beat the high score, and she puts a heart in her initials.
[00:39:38] Yeah, you can put a heart in her.
[00:39:39] You could have done that the whole time.
[00:39:41] The whole time.
[00:39:41] Maybe she would have figured it out.
[00:39:44] If it was him, Hart's B, maybe she would have been like, I wonder who that's –
[00:39:50] You could have –
[00:39:50] The heart was there the whole time.
[00:39:51] No –
[00:39:52] It's just –
[00:39:53] Could have played hard.
[00:39:54] It's almost like he didn't want her to know.
[00:39:56] It's almost like he just – he went really hard on –
[00:39:58] That is the most ham-fisted scene in the movie.
[00:40:00] But there's also just no way that that kid would have gone that long without telling her.
[00:40:05] That's right.
[00:40:05] There's just no – there's no way that he would have gotten to this day and been like, all right, now it's time for you to know.
[00:40:12] There's the big reveal.
[00:40:13] I'm going to wait until she runs away on her wedding day.
[00:40:16] No, this kid tells her before she moves to Italy.
[00:40:19] She's like, I'm moving to Italy.
[00:40:21] He's like, I got to tell you something.
[00:40:22] Come over.
[00:40:23] That's when it would happen.
[00:40:24] Yeah, for sure.
[00:40:24] Yeah.
[00:40:25] And I also wrote down to smile and not have any friends.
[00:40:27] That's so sad.
[00:40:28] Yes, of course.
[00:40:29] Dana?
[00:40:29] Yeah, before that whole video game fiasco, which is just god-awful, we – he comes in to talk to his future bride.
[00:40:38] And the whole three movies, she is in there.
[00:40:42] She's drinking and she's nervous.
[00:40:44] The whole three movies.
[00:40:45] And he's like, why'd you run away?
[00:40:48] And she says, I didn't run away because I was scared to get married.
[00:40:51] I ran away because I was scared you didn't want to marry me, which doesn't make any sense at all.
[00:40:58] It doesn't line up with her character for the run of the trilogy.
[00:41:03] Yeah.
[00:41:03] We are pitched a woman who is scared and having cold feet.
[00:41:08] And it turns out she wasn't having cold feet.
[00:41:11] She was having cold feet that she thought he might be having cold feet, which doesn't – I don't even know how to explain that.
[00:41:17] Look, no one's going to leave her at the altar.
[00:41:19] She's going to leave first.
[00:41:20] That's right.
[00:41:20] I don't get left – I leave, y'all.
[00:41:23] Any cappuccino that's made in under 90 seconds, I don't want it.
[00:41:29] You can call me a diva.
[00:41:30] You can call me particular.
[00:41:31] You can call me whatever you want to call me.
[00:41:33] If I'm in Italia at a small town coffee shop that specializes in espresso drinks, if I order cappuccino and it comes out to me in – I'm in a ballpark at six seconds.
[00:41:45] You have not made it.
[00:41:47] Yeah.
[00:41:47] And it is not good.
[00:41:49] Go steam that milk again.
[00:41:50] Yeah.
[00:41:51] There is – if you have made me a cappuccino in six seconds, it's not cap nor chino.
[00:41:57] It is none of those things.
[00:41:58] It is not happening.
[00:41:59] But if you are making one that quickly, you also definitely have to-go cups, right?
[00:42:04] That's right.
[00:42:04] Yeah.
[00:42:04] You can't be both.
[00:42:06] You can't be – this is a serious coffee place where we sit down and we savor our coffee, but you are going to get it crazy fast.
[00:42:13] Is it Folgers Instant Coffee?
[00:42:15] Yes.
[00:42:16] You won't know.
[00:42:17] It's a six-second cappuccino and it's got a design on top.
[00:42:19] That's right.
[00:42:19] I don't know how to do it.
[00:42:20] Yeah, exactly.
[00:42:20] It's a full design in the steamed milk.
[00:42:22] Are you kidding me right now?
[00:42:23] You sit down and you enjoy it.
[00:42:25] Tyler Hines, this whole movie, keeps his sunglasses on his fourth or fifth button down in his shirt right by his belly button, which I get it if you don't want to ruin like a V symmetry you got going on.
[00:42:37] But is there literally anywhere else?
[00:42:41] I've never seen it before.
[00:42:42] It was quite a move and maybe I'm just wrong.
[00:42:44] It was quite a move.
[00:42:46] The second time he has a serious conversation with the leading lady in this movie.
[00:42:51] Gabriella.
[00:42:52] Gabriella.
[00:42:52] She's like – he says, what's wrong?
[00:42:56] And she says, the fact that you asked me that means you know nothing about me.
[00:42:59] Yes.
[00:43:00] Correct.
[00:43:01] That is correct.
[00:43:01] He doesn't.
[00:43:02] He's known you for three days.
[00:43:04] He knows nothing about you.
[00:43:05] That's how this works.
[00:43:07] Maybe you fill him in.
[00:43:08] That's right.
[00:43:09] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:10] I love that your feels was this teenage daughter saying to Tyler Hines, dad, can you give me a break?
[00:43:16] Can you give me some space?
[00:43:17] Because you are 100% right there.
[00:43:19] But you know what else is right?
[00:43:20] The point is if you think for a second that I've flown thousands of miles to see my child for one month and I'm not going to be there to pick you up from school every day, you got another thing coming.
[00:43:32] Good luck.
[00:43:33] I am thousands of miles away from my child.
[00:43:37] I get to see them.
[00:43:39] I'm going to be there 30 minutes early.
[00:43:40] I don't even care if you complain.
[00:43:42] I don't care if you ask nicely.
[00:43:43] I'm going to be gone in three weeks.
[00:43:46] But I'm getting a hug as soon as you walk out that door.
[00:43:49] I'm getting a hug.
[00:43:49] I'm sorry.
[00:43:50] I'm sorry it's embarrassing for you.
[00:43:52] I'm doing the best I can here.
[00:43:54] I live thousands of miles away from my kid.
[00:43:55] Sorry, not sorry.
[00:43:57] My favorite one in this movie, we've covered the big ones, the groomsmen being the biggest in my opinion.
[00:44:02] My favorite one in this movie easily is there's a festival coming.
[00:44:06] It's a mask festival.
[00:44:07] It's a very big deal for this town.
[00:44:09] She is putting up, Gabriella is putting up a sign for this festival.
[00:44:15] And this sign says in all Italian, Festa a Sperlonga.
[00:44:21] And then space, space, the illusionista.
[00:44:29] So I just want to be very clear.
[00:44:32] Italian is the language, the national language in Italy from what I understand.
[00:44:38] That's the way I understand it.
[00:44:39] This festival is for Italians.
[00:44:42] And every word on this poster is in Italian aside from the word the, which illusionista is feminine.
[00:44:52] So I looked it up.
[00:44:53] It would be L apostrophe.
[00:44:54] So instead of l'illusionista, I'm sure I butchered that.
[00:44:59] Festa a Sperlonga.
[00:44:59] Sounded great to me, by the way.
[00:45:01] Festa a Sperlonga.
[00:45:02] L'illusionista.
[00:45:03] Instead of that, where everyone in their small Italian home is going around going, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
[00:45:09] It's the Sperlonga festival, the illusionist.
[00:45:12] Now they're reading it with the American, the English word the in the middle of it.
[00:45:18] Prominently displayed.
[00:45:20] I don't know what happened at the printers.
[00:45:22] But somebody got that and went, we're just going to have to go with it.
[00:45:24] We don't have time to print this again.
[00:45:26] It's like that beloved Fellini movie, The Strata.
[00:45:29] Yeah, you get it.
[00:45:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:45:30] Exactly.
[00:45:31] It's a classic situation where it's like when Chris Farley is like El Nino, which in English means the Nino.
[00:45:39] That's right.
[00:45:39] Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:40] Of course.
[00:45:41] And then I do have to shout out the fact that even though it does lead us to a vineyard scene,
[00:45:46] which should have been a full kiss with sprinklers running, no questions asked.
[00:45:51] Instead, it was an almost kiss.
[00:45:52] Because they have a driver drop them off a mile from the house.
[00:45:56] A mile.
[00:45:57] Like he could have driven them all the way to the front door.
[00:45:59] He drops them off a mile from the house and they have to walk all the way through that.
[00:46:03] That was crazy.
[00:46:04] That's all I got.
[00:46:06] Well, after three movies, are we still wondering anything?
[00:46:10] Let's find out.
[00:46:11] What do we still want some answers to?
[00:46:13] Alonzo.
[00:46:14] This isn't so much less a question than a comment, but I would suggest that Betty has watched too many Hallmark movies.
[00:46:22] Because her concern is not that Milo doesn't love her.
[00:46:28] Her concern is that she and Milo don't have a story.
[00:46:32] Yep.
[00:46:32] They don't have an anecdote.
[00:46:34] They don't have some challenge overcome the way that her dad and her gunkle and her unofficial uncle do.
[00:46:43] And it's like, who thinks like that?
[00:46:47] Who thinks that their love story has to have some sort of contrived kind of thing?
[00:46:52] And I thought, ah, you've watched too much Hallmark.
[00:46:54] That's all it is.
[00:46:55] I'd get married to you, but we've never had an almost kiss.
[00:46:59] We've never been interrupted.
[00:47:01] We didn't decorate a single cookie.
[00:47:02] Our love is 10 of 10, but our story, our meat cube, 4 of 10.
[00:47:07] Yeah.
[00:47:07] Gross.
[00:47:09] Yeah.
[00:47:10] I guess my question is there was this shirt that Tyler Hines was wearing.
[00:47:20] And this just seems like something that Tyler would do, but he had half of the collar popped and half of it not popped.
[00:47:27] And I didn't know if it was a shirt thing.
[00:47:30] If that's just how that shirt things.
[00:47:31] Listen, I'm not in it with style.
[00:47:33] But occasionally I see something and I'm like, is that on purpose?
[00:47:37] Because it's a style thing that I'm just, I don't know about.
[00:47:40] I always think it is.
[00:47:42] If it's Tyler Hines, I'm like.
[00:47:43] I always think it is.
[00:47:44] If it's Tyler, I always think it is.
[00:47:45] He's doing a thing.
[00:47:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:47:47] But if not, then did no one just, did no one, was it too late?
[00:47:51] Hey, let me fix that for you.
[00:47:52] Let me fix your collar.
[00:47:53] So honestly, it is a genuine question.
[00:47:56] Is it a thing that I just don't know about?
[00:48:00] Because I would have no idea if that's a thing or not.
[00:48:04] Now you have an opener at ChristmasCon.
[00:48:06] Yes.
[00:48:06] Yeah.
[00:48:07] Yes.
[00:48:07] Thank goodness.
[00:48:09] Because the thing is, of course Tyler Hines can pull off a half a popped collar.
[00:48:13] Of course he can.
[00:48:13] Of course he can.
[00:48:14] And so is that a thing?
[00:48:17] Is it a thing?
[00:48:18] Is it a thing?
[00:48:19] Dana?
[00:48:19] And is it a thing now?
[00:48:20] Is it a thing now?
[00:48:21] Yeah.
[00:48:22] So mine, I think, is pretty straightforward.
[00:48:24] They move, the mom and the daughter moved to Italy.
[00:48:28] She is in our armed services.
[00:48:31] Pretty known that she's going to have to move again.
[00:48:35] What happened in the four or five years before Betty was an adult?
[00:48:40] Did she just really get lucky and not have to move again from Italy?
[00:48:45] Tyler moved to Italy.
[00:48:47] Did the mom just never have to get stationed again anywhere else and they all just live in Italy still to this day?
[00:48:52] She ends up with Milo back in Philly.
[00:48:55] Or did she like retire after 20 years of service?
[00:48:58] My question is the biological mom here.
[00:49:01] What happened?
[00:49:02] Like, seems like she would probably.
[00:49:04] Something happened obviously to get her back to Philly where she would.
[00:49:07] Not her, Betty.
[00:49:08] To get Betty back to Philly where she would end up with Milo.
[00:49:10] That's right.
[00:49:11] Also, and this would entail having to go back and re-watch them, which I'm never doing.
[00:49:16] I'm good.
[00:49:16] But like the idea that Betty is in Italy and that Jackson moves to Italy, does that make sense in the continuity of the other movies where the three groomsmen are still hanging out in Chicago?
[00:49:30] I think this is a year later, but I could be wrong.
[00:49:32] And you're right.
[00:49:33] That's a fair question to ask.
[00:49:35] Like, when he moves to Italy, is that after the gay wedding in Greece or not?
[00:49:40] It's got to be after.
[00:49:41] It's definitely, I think it's definitely after because.
[00:49:44] She's not there.
[00:49:45] Well, and Jonathan Bennett has a wedding ring on.
[00:49:47] Yes.
[00:49:47] And the conversation in the bar.
[00:49:48] Oh, right.
[00:49:49] Yes.
[00:49:49] Which I felt like, and they made a point of it, I feel like, for him to hold up his hand and you see it.
[00:49:53] But also, BJ Britt is supposed to supposedly part-time move to Bulgaria and we don't hear neither hide nor hair of that.
[00:50:02] Nothing about it.
[00:50:03] I'm giving Jonathan Bennett and Ron Oliver the benefit of the doubt that they have like a timeline on a bulletin board somewhere that makes sense.
[00:50:10] I'm glad you're doing that.
[00:50:11] I was questioning it.
[00:50:12] I don't know.
[00:50:12] So she moved to Italy sometime in between.
[00:50:15] Obviously, because she wasn't there when they went over for, gosh, I don't.
[00:50:21] They went out in Greece.
[00:50:22] No, she was in Greece.
[00:50:23] She was in Greece.
[00:50:23] I would assume afterwards.
[00:50:25] She gets off of school.
[00:50:26] In my mind, all of this took place after the other two.
[00:50:29] That's in my head how that worked.
[00:50:31] It couldn't have taken place during it.
[00:50:33] Had to take place after.
[00:50:34] Well, but she informs him at the original wedding of Jonathan Bennett's sister when the whole thing starts that she's got to move to Italy.
[00:50:42] Oh, no.
[00:50:43] So.
[00:50:43] Yeah, that's the confusing thing.
[00:50:45] But she does say it's this holiday.
[00:50:46] She says in the holidays when we move.
[00:50:48] So that gives them a few months to go to BJ Brits or to go overseas for.
[00:50:54] But not for the year later.
[00:50:56] The year later.
[00:50:57] And if they're coming from Italy and meeting up in Greece, then sure.
[00:51:02] But that's never mentioned.
[00:51:03] These movies were bad enough.
[00:51:04] Why did you do this, Alonzo?
[00:51:07] See, Sister Swap would never.
[00:51:09] Sister Swap would.
[00:51:10] Sister Swap's miles better than this movie.
[00:51:11] I think Ron knows.
[00:51:13] Ron knows.
[00:51:14] Ron's got it figured out.
[00:51:15] Trust in Ron.
[00:51:16] And Ron we trust.
[00:51:16] Trust in Ron.
[00:51:18] You know the old saying.
[00:51:19] And Ron we trust.
[00:51:20] Yes.
[00:51:20] Or as I say.
[00:51:21] Where there was one camera on the beach Ron was carrying.
[00:51:24] That's exactly right.
[00:51:25] He sure was.
[00:51:26] You can't get that shot without that.
[00:51:28] We did it, everybody.
[00:51:29] Congratulations.
[00:51:29] We're done.
[00:51:31] Is it now safe to say it's all Christmas all the time?
[00:51:34] Are we?
[00:51:35] Good luck.
[00:51:36] There's nothing else, right?
[00:51:38] I think at this point it's like holidays and mistletoe murder.
[00:51:41] I don't want to be lied to again.
[00:51:45] I don't want to be lied to.
[00:51:46] All right.
[00:51:46] We'll be back next time with another one.
[00:51:47] Until then, we're the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.
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