The Way Home - S04E04 - We've Got Tonight

[00:00:03] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast Hi, I'm Brian and I love The Way Home Hi, I'm Ryan and I watch The Way Home I'm Dan and The Way Home is still on Hallmark And this is Deck The Hallmark Podcast Deck The Hallmark, it's his podcast Friends host his podcast

[00:00:39] Hi everybody How are we? Almost halfway home Almost halfway, it's 10 episode season Yeah Or is it 8 brand, do you know? I thought it was 8 and when you said almost I think it's 8 They've all been 10 up until this season Yeah, I think it might be 10 I'm gonna look it up Hey, I don't know nothing Talk amongst yourselves I don't know nothing Raga, you got anything that you want to discuss? I wish that we were recording just a little later

[00:01:07] Cause I just got something cool in the mail But it's downstairs, you guys wouldn't be able to fill long enough I'd have to find it in the package room Yeah, it was tough So I'll just show you here Give me a second I should've had it prepared But I, you know, I never know where we're gonna go with these things So I didn't have Alright, there we go I got this limited edition Space Jam Pizza Hut box Yeah Okay Look at that Yeah And so I paid, I think a very fair amount of money for that

[00:01:36] Okay, go ahead and if you're comfortable, go let's see Oh, well I didn't bring it up to talk about that, but sure It's a used pizza box You said a fair price And so Yeah, so like This has been used for pizza? No, I don't believe it was used I think it's I'm gonna guess this person Either knows someone at Pizza Hut Or worked at Pizza Hut And stashed some It's an inside job Yeah Cause it's in very, very good condition Great

[00:02:04] This would've been for like a triple I don't know what Pizza Hut calls it But you get like a pizza, a cookie and something else So it's a rather big box Yeah, it's a box, a dinner box Like a big dinner box Yeah, but like it goes like three It's, you know, rather It's a Paul boy I know exactly what you're talking about I've seen this actually in person It's still just a pizza box, yes? Right, yeah So $10 So I got this for what I believe would be less than what the meal would cost $24 I think it's pretty good There's no food in it though, right? No, God no I'm just, this is a display piece, baby

[00:02:32] So the reason maybe you got it for less than what the meal costs is If you got the meal Correct me if I'm wrong here You got food to eat, right? Yeah, but I wouldn't want that food delivered through the USPS No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Of course not You know what I've been having though These are next door But again, I don't wanna I feel like I leave too much I went to one of them snacks from around the world places at the mall Yeah Leigh's in Germany They make Pizza Hut chips

[00:03:00] They taste just like Pizza Hut Wow I know you're a big Pizza Hut boy I mean, if you're gonna have fake pizza Nobody out pizzas the hut Nobody out fakes the hut Yeah, if I'm gonna have fake pizza I know exactly what you mean I think that I probably choose Pizza Hut as well Unless we're considering Unless Marcos counts I don't think so I think Marcos would be better than Pizza Hut

[00:03:30] Domino's, Papa John's, Little Caesars Pizza Hut's the best It's the best Domino's isn't bad But they put all that stuff underneath it I don't like that All right, Papa John's is the worst of them Yeah, Little Caesars might be worse No, Papa John's The thing is The crust at Papa John's The undercarriage of Papa John's Tastes like actual cardboard Like it's the worst They're both bad But I think Pizza Hut is pretty good Pizza Hut But by the way, hey, real quick I don't Neither of you really raised an eyebrow at that price So I think you both Well, I said $10

[00:04:01] I do have an update on this The Space Jam triple threat box at Pizza Hut was $21.99 So you did pay more Okay, so I belt mark your remark Here's what I would say about that price But again, you got no food out of the deal I did not blink at Ryguy at the price Because I would not have paid single digit dollars Sure, sure But you paying that wasn't surprising If you had thrown something exorbitant Look, I want to be very clear $25 for a box is insane

[00:04:30] Well, no, it's a piece of art For you, it's important And I think $25 is a fair price I will say I saw one of these out in the wild I think it was Was it holding a pizza? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Got it Aaron Shea Langley They came over to our house For a game night situation And they brought it And I saw it in person And it is a beautiful box Great Thank you It had pizza It did have multiple It's going to go right on this wall Right over here Right off camera I'm going to look at it every day Because I love Pizza Hut

[00:04:59] And I love Space Jam And I love Space Jam Starting the Looney Tunes That is true, you do love Pizza Hut When you were here, you said brand Yep I got the green for the first day I wanted it was pizza And we had a lovely night We watched some Survivor That was a great night We had a great night We had a great night You know, one of the things I'm most excited about Two pizzas and two breads for $21 It's a really good deal They're giving it away You heard about this new Were those curds? That's interesting We had an experience at Buffalo Wild Wings

[00:05:29] Right, I don't even think we have time to get into it But it was wild Go quick Okay Wild good or wild bad? Bad I've not been to Buffalo Wild Wings in years Because I typically don't like it We decided to watch some March Madness games At Buffalo Wild Wings They are the official title sponsor of March Madness I'm familiar We show up at 5-something It's basically empty There's at least 30 empty tables Right? Empty seats at the bar We His Few others are going to join us We tell them how many I think we say table for three Right?

[00:05:59] So We literally No one Actually, we don't say table for three We're sitting there at the host station No one comes to get us for 10 or 15 minutes Dude, this is a common problem at all Buffalo Wild Wings It doesn't I've had the same experience So people start to line up We get seated And then What we start to notice is Is that there's clearly some server drama Two servers are pissed off One's crying By the time we were there an hour

[00:06:28] The line to get seated with at least 30 empty tables was out the door And then there's a server crying who I think was supposed to be the hostess There's a manager that's angry And the food is taking It was a one of one experience We were there for a full game So over an hour Yeah, we were there two or three hours There was a line out the door the entire time The entire time It's crazy That's nuts And there's empty tables everywhere Like everywhere It was crazy Wow Did you get any intel on what happened? Obviously

[00:06:56] No, clearly the hostess messed up Clearly like there wasn't enough servers And then the hostess who was supposed to be actively seating people in different sections Wasn't doing her job Like was just ignoring it It was bad It was real bad Not great Not great Not great Let's talk about The Way Home Season 4 Episode 4 It's called We've Got Tonight It originally premiered on the Hallmark Channel on May the 10th, 2026 And it went a little something like this

[00:07:24] Jacob is busy working at a bar as a bartender This guy and this gal come in to order an espresso martini Jacob is like we don't do that here We're old school After that, the ghost of Thomas asks them how long he's going to hide for Yeah, Thomas is bad Thomas Yeah No way we're going to go to the 1800s though You know what I mean? Alice Brother Alice and Elliot are talking about how Cat is still not home He catches up to

[00:07:55] Catches her up to speed about how his mom did come back at some point At least long enough to write this letter Just then Nick comes in What up Nick? We talked about it last week Crazy He's moving back to Port Amen Port Haven Port Haven Him and Claire are coming back How about that? Maybe we'll finally get to meet who Claire is Sam says Asked Del if she's considered at all any more about the move Moving in with him And she's like I'm not ready

[00:08:24] I want to put that idea on pause And she seems shocked by how cool he is on that More on that later Cat is still behind bars Cliff shows up And is like alright Spill Who are ya? No ID No nothing What's your story Kid? She doesn't have time to spill Before Fern shows up Bails her out of jail Nick tells Del that he wants to buy Colton's boat

[00:08:52] And isn't going to give up without a fight Nick's biological father Julian shows up Hey Julian Yeah And he takes quite a liking to Del immediately Do I smell a season 4 love triangle? I mean we got there are six episodes left They should probably decide to do this for sure Why the heck not Cat questions Fern about tainted love again And Fern insists that she's known about this song for ages And that she doesn't know no Tessa

[00:09:22] She asks She also tells Cat That she's the one who drugged her It was to protect The only way to protect her from the Augustine boys Because they can't get her behind the bars How about that? For some reason They have it out for Cat Cat says Well you know They're working for your fiance Grayson Boot-legging Fern is like I don't believe that Cat jumps into the pond Both of them upset At each other Cat Cat Gets home

[00:09:50] While talking with Elliot And Alice Looking at that bullet That Alice found She notices some engravings on it And the engravings match The engravings on Grayson's gun From a photograph that she has She's more convinced than ever before That Grayson's a bootlegger Alice and Cat Are talking with Del About how She and Colton Used to throw the craziest parties Kitchen parties Kitchen parties We call them Dan Kitchen parties

[00:10:20] Kitchen parties And Del's like Maybe we should throw a kitchen party In honor of Nick's homecoming Del then gets a knock at the door She says Who is it? There's no answer Who is it? They're not saying anything Finally she goes over She opens the door And just as she suspected It's a flower delivery From Julian Big fat flower delivery That's exactly right Cat continues to To try to contact Jacob

[00:10:48] But he still won't answer So she gets back To looking at Evelyn's old files She wants to learn more About who Grayson really is Not just what the town's history books say Alice jumps back into the pond And sees Tessa and Vic Show up at one of Del and Colton's parties She hears them talk about how they're getting married Tessa then sees Alice looking on from behind the tree Alice tells her Don't tell anybody that I was here

[00:11:19] Or else I'll tell everybody about How you took money from coils that one day And she's like Alright your secret's safe with me Cat finds a marriage certificate Of Grayson's To someone from 1926 But it's not Fern She also finds out that Grayson had a sister Who died young This is information we're getting Alice can't stop Yes it is Alice can't stop herself From sneaking into the house To watch the party Because Alice just She just loves watching stuff from up close

[00:11:47] Evelyn gives Del some wine But she doesn't drink it And Evelyn's like Okay I know what's going on here In the present It's party time Sam finds out that Julian sent flowers And he's like Oh alright cool I mean whatever I'm cool guy Whatever Same as cool guy Back in the 80's Fern comes in And sees Tessa Looking at the family almanac And she freaks out She's like You'll never be my family It's good Really cool Colton is like Whoa

[00:12:18] Chill out Fern This girl She's gonna marry an Augustine She's not even gonna be in the family Fern Storms off Everybody's like WTF In the present Cat announces at the party That she's gonna be closing that In the newspaper News to all of us That the newspaper is still open She is going to focus on the writing A history book on the history of Port Haven Then Julian recites some Shakespeare

[00:12:46] Alice walks outside and tries to talk to Fern Who is still freaking out Del comes out Tells Fern to go to bed Then throws her wine out Alice overhears Colton come out And asks how they're both doing Touching her stomach Touching her stomach They talk about how They gotta wait to tell people Because it's been quite a journey For them to get pregnant But 1979's gonna be the year They start a family 1979's gonna be the year And Alice is like What?

[00:13:16] My mom wasn't born in 1979 Love all the math I've done the math Alice runs back home And gives present day Del a big ol' hug There's a phone call It's Jacob But when he hears the singing And the laughing in the background He hangs up And he tells the ghost of Thomas They're happy They don't need me around anymore Later that night Alice tells Kat About how Del was pregnant in 1979

[00:13:46] This is news to Alice What does this mean? The next day Del and Sam talk She tells him that he's been Way too chill With everything Julian's attention towards her Her not wanting to move in with him Make me feel like you care Fight for me Makes her feel like this whole relationship For her has just been a distraction Of the whole Jacob situation And he says You know what I want?

[00:14:14] I want you I don't want a wonder I just want you I don't want You know what I mean? Same He didn't want mystery He didn't want mystery Elliot surprises Jacob Flies all the way there Asks him to come home He says Elliot get out of here Thanks for coming all the way Alice tells Kat more about Fern freaking out And she figures out That the handwriting

[00:14:43] Of the 1800s Jacob entry into the Almanac Is the same handwriting As Tessa's letter to Elliot And the same handwriting For Fern's birth entry Also in the Almanac They have hypothesized That Tessa time traveled Originally back to the 1800s With Griff Griff though Then left And went back home Leaving her in the 1800s Where she has then

[00:15:13] Now had to live For the past 40 years Which is why She ends up in The 20s In theory And they need someone From Tessa's era To come And rescue her So Nick So Kat decides to jump And Nick's gonna come with her To just make sure she's safe Because the Augustine boys Are still out to get her Of course Okay So the episode ends On horseback Thank God

[00:15:41] Del thinks that she sees Colton Walking into the woods So she tries to go Get the horse to follow The horse Once again Very freaked out Around the woods That is around the pond Bucks are off She's knocked off Knocked out And that my friends was The Way Home Season 4 Episode 4 We had tonight And I love you tonight Brand do you think you got close To looping the song there? That was thorough We were pretty close

[00:16:11] Pretty close Alright let's take a break We're gonna come back We're gonna break this episode Down here on Deck the Hallmark Hi everybody welcome back We're talking about The Way Home Episode 4 Of the final season Of the program Season 4 Let's get to our Hot takes This is where we're sure Exactly how you felt about this episode I'll start with you Ryguy Ryguy What you think of it?

[00:16:41] This episode was Solid I you know It was I'm a little torn here Because I found this episode By far to be the most engaging Of the season so far But I also have a lot of Wait what's Yeah And a lot of them are plot related Yeah Right? So they're not like LOL funny things There's a couple of those But it's It's a tough spot to be in Because I was Entertained by the episode And I cannot say I was Entertained by the first two episodes And at points I was even interested

[00:17:11] In the episode And I certainly was nowhere Close to interested Of the first three episodes This season But If you really We said last week That we've almost Maybe been a little Easy on the show In the sense that If we were paying more attention We would be spotting A lot of things That don't make sense And Bran for as interesting As a lot of the things You just said there A lot of them A lot of them They don't make sense They don't With the overall Framework of the show And if you really start And it's also just We're bogging ourselves down

[00:17:40] With so many dates And years And the plot Contrivements To get to those spots But On the plus side This was the most interesting Adult Jacob has been In a long time So to say that I've really never Found him interesting Elliot whined a lot less Which was nice Even my mom was talking about How unlikable he was That's bad Wow He whined less In comparison to Jacob Yeah Yeah Yeah You know When you're around Jacob

[00:18:10] It's like Oh wow You're just downright Sunshine My family's happy I forgot that To my point about How things don't make sense Though I forgot How randomly Stupid it was That Nick Not only knew About the pond Last season But now Can jump We're just telling Anybody about the pond And initially As best I understood it And I'm happy To be corrected wrong Because I may be Only The Landry's Were supposed to jump Be able to jump

[00:18:40] And then Also Elliot But now anybody can As long as you're With the Landry You know what I mean That's the rule As long as you're With the Landry You can Yeah And you can't Go forward in time Only go back Further Doesn't really hold A lot of water for me With that said Julian Julian This new guy Him relentlessly Spitting game to Dell I actually was quite Intertained by It was so wildly Out of left field That I really enjoyed it I believe I felt this way Last season At one point too Almost I shouldn't say most

[00:19:09] But a good chunk Of this episode Took place In present day And that Ironically for this show Seems to be the formula That works best for me To have me be interested Like you know When we're trying To split Equally between The 20s and the 70s Or whatever And present day That to me Has not been a winning Recipe for this show For the last few seasons But when we're Typically grounded In reality It actually I think for me Kind of sings the best Too much emphasis On years and dates Like I said All the Tessa

[00:19:39] Stuff is interesting To that point But I can't imagine They pay it off In a way that I find Believable Or cool But at least They've stirred up Some excitement For me right now Lastly Colton is horse And that horse Just killed Delbrand What a time That's good Colton's mad About the whole Sam love triangle Thing Yeah She should really Rethink this Absolutely If she has a chance To think again She could be dead Yeah Yeah I like this episode I'm just

[00:20:08] I'm intrigued enough And so That's nice And there are Things that I am concerned With the fact That it's the last season That the things That they're setting up There's not a way For it to be like As impactful Correct As what I would hope for With a final season Of a show like this Like I don't know What they could possibly Have as the conclusion Of the Tessa situation Like why is Fern

[00:20:37] So mad at Tessa In the 80s For sure But she also seemed Like she We I think we all Know that she Knows her And has some Sort of distaste For her In the 20s As well And this whole Like you're all Like you're never Going to be a part Of this It's like What is the What is the Possible payoff There that will Be fulfilling Fulfilling into A series I'm not sure

[00:21:06] But I'm at least Intrigued to see What they try To pull off there And I don't Disagree with you Either about Julian I When Julian Comes on the screen I'm like What are we doing Here But boy He won me over Faster Than a rabbit Runs to carrots Wow That's fast Yeah Rabbits are fast To begin with Yeah I'm all in on that And then you throw Carrots in the mix I'm all in on that And I think I just think It's You know

[00:21:36] It's safe to assume That everybody In this show Is time traveling Right And so it's like Who really is Julian Nick's biological Father I don't know Could be anybody But I There's enough Going on here That I'm intrigued by And I'm interested To see how the season Wraps up And the series Wrap up Obviously Dano Yeah you guys Are just nicer Than I am I I Like I would I will say I would Like This episode Is like Driving a really Terrible car Faster

[00:22:07] Like it doesn't There is more Happening here And it dawned on me This season Feels Brand I don't know If you know If you would Agree with this Or not But this season Feels like a Hallmark Mystery movie So Okay yeah It feels like They're just In Hallmark Mystery movies Notoriously Bad thing happens And then they Just throw They just Throw stuff At you The viewer Like you're not Immersed It's just Everything just Kind of happens

[00:22:37] At you It's just like Oh then this Then this Then this Must be Then this Must be Then if that's The case Then this is But that couldn't Be Because And they just Over explain Over explain And it's because They don't trust The characters And they don't Really have much Of a You know A story To lay back on The number Of times That dates Are awkwardly Said By people That would Never say Them in this Episode Is so Funny Like it's So funny For Colton and Dell to be Pregnant And for Colton to be Like

[00:23:06] 1979 is the Year we Start a Family Are you From a Different Planet It's You know No one's Watching You're not On big Brother Like no One's Watching You guys Right now So as Far as You can Tell You You're Talking Like you Just heard Of time For the First time Yeah The nick Stuff is Ridiculous The fact That brand And i can't Believe nobody Mentioned We're Going Back to The 1800s Brand No We're Not Seems Likely No

[00:23:36] We're Going For A reason They're Jumping In the Pond To find Tess In the 1800s I can't Imagine We don't Have an Episode But she Got stuck In the 1800s What if They find Her There First She Can't Be There She's She's Been There For 40 Yeah So what If they Travel To the 1800s Brand There's No Before She Lives All In fact

[00:24:05] I don't Think That That Can Happen You Don't Think That They Can Travel Back To Where She Traveled To No Why Not I Just Don't Think That You Can Yeah Cats Do Whatever They Want Bro No Cat Can Travel Back To Where Tess Traveled To She Can No She

[00:24:35] Although I Don't I Don't Don't I Don't I Don't She Can Go Back To The 1800s I

[00:25:05] Where Clearly She's Already There So Because She's Experienced Her There She Can't Then Go Back But She Also Has Been To The 1800s Right But But In A Time Period Which She Is Already In The 20s Great But She Can Still Go Back To

[00:25:35] So She Can Still Go Back But Because She Has Experienced A Place In Which She Is She Can't Go Again Even Though They've Never Established That rule Not Once I Think No I Think There's Something To

[00:26:05] 90s And Then She Went To The 70s You Can Go Back To The 1800s I Don't Disagree With You There But She Has Not Interacted With Anybody That

[00:26:35] That Says She Can't Go Back To The 1800s It Seems Pretty Clear To Me That They're Going Back To The 20s And The Way That They Explained I Got I Think You Bring Thomas And

[00:27:05] They've Not Explained It Yet But If They Explain It Later I'll Just Be Like Wow What I'm Saying Though Is She Has Already Been To The 1800s Area Era Era Era Where She Has Also Already Been So She's Missed Her Okay They Went To The Same Time Period Of The 1800s Understood So When She Was There Tessa Wasn't There Nothing She Had Already Traveled Understood Nothing Has Ever Precluded The

[00:27:35] Show From Time Traveling People To A Time In History They've Yet To Be Like Back To The 1800s In Both Season Two And Season She Cat Could Still Go Back To The 1800s It Would Just Be A Little Further Yeah I'm Not Saying She's Going To To I'm Not About To The 1800s On March 4th 1802 Yeah She Can't Travel

[00:28:05] To March 3rd But She Can Certainly Travel To March 15th But What They Say In The Show Is to the 20s. So she's waiting on somebody to bring her back. That's why they're going back to the 20s. I know that they're going to go to the 20s, but what I'm saying is her being there for 40 years and us knowing it has never ever stopped this show from traveling to... We know a lot of futures. We know what happens

[00:28:35] to a lot of Landry's and a lot of Augustine's. That doesn't stop us from going back to those times. Just because we know what happens doesn't mean you can't travel. I understand what I'm saying. It's a time traveler versus time traveler situation. They're both time travelers. I understand that. Yeah. But Kat can still travel to the 1800s. Can she bring Tess back? Maybe not. No, no, no. Because she can't bring her to the future. There's nothing they said here that would lead you to believe that that's where they're going.

[00:29:04] We established in this episode that my man from the 1800s shows up in a dream sequence and that Tessa went to the 1800s. That is enough for this show to send someone to the 1800s. Period. I agree with Dan on that. Yeah. I mean, there's no guarantee, Bran, but I can see the thread for sure. Yeah. To me, it was so abundantly clear. Oh, my God. They're definitely going to spend more time in the 20s. No one's arguing that. I don't think that the 1800s is where the show's going to camp. I'm saying that they've done enough here to go back.

[00:29:34] I guess we'll find out probably in the first five minutes of the next episode. If they don't, I'm totally fine saying they didn't, but I don't think there's anything stopping Kat. They've not established a rule that says Kat can't go back to the 1800s. Yeah. They've not done that. That I think is open and shut. That wasn't what I was saying. Okay. You said she can't go back to the 1800s. She can't go back to the 1800s and find her. Okay. No, I didn't say that. Because she's already been there. I said she's going to the 1800s. Because she's already been there and she wasn't there then,

[00:30:03] she can't be there now. Oh, I don't. Bran, you'll agree with this. To Dan's point, I could plot out the episode. Kat jumps back to the 1800s hoping to find Tess. Of course. And five other things happen. Of course. That like, you know. Exactly. That is what I imagine happening. She's like, that's what I imagine. Both could actually end up being proven very true. I just, the idea that Kat can't go back to the 1800s. That's on the table. That's possible. That's all I'm saying. Okay. Yeah. I think my problem, I think where I'm getting held up here

[00:30:32] is that she knows she's been to the 20s. Yes. Which to me means that she's already been through the 1800s. And she knows she's going to be So she could at least, at the very main point. In the film in the 20s too. I think the show is going to mostly take place in the 20s. But that is, that does not preclude Kat from going to the 1800s. Dan's broadest point, Bran, is that. That's all I'm hearing about. No, I agree that she can go to the 1800s. Yeah, because when I said it, you were like, she can't go. I was like,

[00:31:03] I literally don't think that she can cross paths with her in the 1800s since they've both been to the same place in the 1800s. And while I don't think they've established that rule, I do think that could very well be the case. Right. The rule that I'm following is the rule that however long you're there, you're there. So if she is... She's been there for 40 years. Right. We can't do anything about it. The only time that she currently can be is the 20s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you went, when they saw Jacob, he had been in there that long. There's no way they could have gone. They would have had to go earlier when he left at eight.

[00:31:32] They would have had to go then to catch him earlier. Yeah, that makes sense. I got no issue there. Yeah. Watch them just break that rule. The 1800s is going to get another scene in this television show. It just is. It is. No. It's happening. I think Thomas is their way of doing that. All right. Thomas is a ghost in a very struggling Jacob. That's their way. I want to live in the world where you're right here. Thomas is there to satisfy the 1800 heads. 100%. Yeah. The Thomas heads out there that are going nuts for Thomas

[00:32:01] are like, I missed those days. This is their way of doing that. All right. I think. Yeah. Well, I don't know if I fully... Did you give your hot take down? I was in the middle of it. And I said the 1800s thing and that's where we got sidetracked. I won't let it happen. I think... I won't let it. This episode definitely moves at a breakneck pace which is nice if you're going to watch this show. They're just right now throwing stuff at the wall to see what'll stick. I mean,

[00:32:30] they just are. Love Triangle, sure. Nick back in town, sure. Nick time traveling, absolutely. Tess has been in the 1800s going to the 1920. Fern... The biggest eye roll for me was Fern drugging Cat. There had to be another way out of that situation aside from slipping or a Mickey. I mean, there just had to be. So like, I think, Ryguy, I would say that this episode was the most entertaining but I rolled my way through all of it and I'm thrilled that my man worked for you two

[00:33:00] in that Love Triangle. I love that dude. He's in a different television program. A completely different television. I think that's why I like it. Probably. Probably. Yeah. Let's talk about all the feels. Hey. Ryguy? Yeah, I mean, Del, Julian, Nearly Nude Sam, Love Triangle might bring me back if they keep it up. Also, bonus points and this isn't going to happen. We just have to let this go. If Julian is somehow nefarious, best show ever. Best show ever if Julian, this rando Nick's dad

[00:33:30] best show ever? Yeah, swoops in with six episodes left in the series and is finally the guy pulling the strings. That's worst show ever material is what that is. Well, the show wants us to think that Nearly Nude Sam is nefarious. He is. I am still of the mind that no one is nefarious. That's too easy. They just did not have the cojones to make anyone nefarious. Yeah. but, I don't know, Bran, and I feel like you're on the same page with me. I thought Julian was a hoot and I really am. Oh,

[00:34:00] he was terrible. No, I loved it. I loved every second of it. There was a moment where the show, I got a feeling that I got in season one which is this show really knows how to work with music and I don't feel like they've really done it a ton since then but there is a scene where Del is setting up for the party and she's listening to Dancing in the Moonlight and it transitions immediately into the 80s where Colton is singing Dancing in the Moonlight and that was a great transition

[00:34:28] working really well with music. Music is such an important part of the show and I want more of that because they just have kind of gone away from that and I thought that was really great. I'm 100% with you that's my feels. This show, the first season, every episode had a 90s banger in it. Remember they had Paramore that one episode? Dude. That's like the craziest thing Hallmark's ever done. But there were episodes where the 90s song tied in to the story and then this is the first time it felt like that in a long time was that

[00:34:58] very, very short scene there where Del in the present days listening to the dates when the moonlight transitions back. That was mine too. Wow, look at us. We didn't even watch it together. We didn't even watch it together. Yeah. We would have hatched all that stuff out off air had we had. Yeah, we would have. I would have immediately said I don't think they can do that, Dan. That's a good brand. That's a good brand. Maybe go up one more octave but aside from that it's really good. People wonder why I hate myself. You hear me? We're going to take a break and we're going to come back and we're going to wait while we're at the Hallmark here on the Hallmark.

[00:35:28] Take a slip. Dag got it. You almost did it too. It's going to be an eight minute segment. No, I'm good. Okay. Okay. I'm good. Welcome back. It's time for The Way Home So we're talking about what in this episode made us go what? Right guy. When did Jacob have time to get his bartending license? Dude, listen. The Jacob storyline in this episode is hysterical. It's so bad. To show how low my bar with Jacob is I thought this was

[00:35:57] a vast improvement over everything else they've done with him. Dude, I was embarrassed for everyone involved this week. I was like, oh, this is better than what they've done. Oh, I don't know. And I'll just say this. I do not appreciate the espresso martini slander at the beginning of this episode. What are you talking about? What is more? It's a whiskey bar. I know, but anyway, he said it's a whiskey bar and we're like a classic. Like an espresso martini is a classic. It's a classic. It's a classic dessert drink.

[00:36:27] But it's a classic bevy. I don't know. I agree with you, Grant. Is an espresso martini a classic beverage? It's a, it's, I, I, this is a, you know, people drink. Yes. It's an instant classic if nothing else. A modern classic is what people would call it. Okay, that's kind of what I was implying. Yeah. Real quick on that point, we're not led to believe that the lady he is speaking to in that scene is Tessa, right? They just looked similar, those two actresses? Brother, I have no idea. I'll say this. No idea.

[00:36:58] If nothing comes back about that character, it was. What was that? So weird. The one of the, like, the, the weird, like, look that they gave each other, the, uh, almost like chemistry they had with each other. I thought something was going to come of it. She has to show back up. If she never shows back up, I wrote down. It'll be very weird. I wrote down, what a weird blind date. Uh, where they go into this daytime whiskey bar, ask for an espresso martini, get kicked out,

[00:37:27] and then she lingers to stare at Jacob. Yeah. In a weird, weird scene. But if that's, to Bran's point from the whole 1800s thing, that can't be Tessa because she has lived 40 years. Right. I think they just cast an actress who looked very similar to Tessa. Right. Unless she's already back. There is a theory where she did come back and wrote that letter, right? So she comes back. She comes back and lives in Toronto and lives in Toronto and never did live the 40 years in the night from 1880 to 1920 because that would make her 60. Right.

[00:37:56] She'd be 60. She would be. that can't be her. That can't be her. That's good. And to be fair, that's an instance of me not doing the work. I clearly should have just rewatched that scene and then see it if it was Tessa. Right. So that's on me. Weird how long they stare at each other, though. Also, who sets up a blind date pre-lunch? Blind dates are dinner. I gotta be honest. Before you apologize, I'd hold that apology to the end of the season, right guy? But now that I know that Elliot was there in that bar, I think it might be Tessa. I don't think it makes any sense.

[00:38:26] I don't think it works with any rule, but I think it might be. it can't be. All right. Age-wise, it can't be. Never say never with this show. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It shouldn't be. Regardless, like time travel or not, it wouldn't be. Oh, it shouldn't be. Yeah, it can't be, but maybe it's... But maybe it can. Yeah. Maybe it's Elliot's sister that he doesn't know about. All right. All right. I could buy that. I don't know. I have a bunch more, so let me rock and roll.

[00:38:55] Rattle them! Yeah. Elliot says to Alice, this is a direct quote, this I did check thoroughly, just like Kat, to see an old bracelet in an old film and then disappear. What? What are you talking about? Dude, he's the worst. He is. He's not great. What a stupid show. How did Julian, who I love, wind up at the Landry Farm to set the scene? Nick shows up unannounced to the Landry Farm. Yeah.

[00:39:25] And then his father, who has never met the Landrys, or at least not Del. He's never met Del. That's a huge problem with this. Huge. Now, here's one of two things. Did he just show up, which doesn't make any sense? None. Or did Nick, who showed up unannounced, tell his father to show up unannounced without asking the... To be fair, Nick is that guy. Yeah. I mean, honestly, maybe that answers it. Where do you think Nick gets him from? Yeah, that's fair. Dude, this was my big one. Hey, Dad, I'm showing up

[00:39:54] to tell everybody that I bought a house. Do you want to come with? Like, for Nick's, for Julian to have never met Del, is like, all right, maybe he wasn't around at all. Okay, maybe he wasn't around. But then for him to meet Del by showing up at her house unannounced, and the first thing that he says to Del is, oh no, he meets Sam. And the first thing he says to Sam, he says, hi, nice to meet you to Del. And then to Sam, he says, you're the luckiest man in Port Haven

[00:40:24] because you get to date Del. He's never met her. Yeah. What it, well, he's seen her. What an awesome guy. He's seen her. What a dude. He has seen her. Yeah. Brutal. Cat says, I met her. Cat says, the longer I'm in the past, the more people back home worry, which sure. Yeah. People time travel. And I get what the show is saying. It's just like, I can't be caught. People time travel. That's a Ryan Pappola quote. Right. Yeah.

[00:40:54] People time travel. But what it made me think of, which isn't necessarily what the show was trying to say. You know what? I don't think the show has ever done, which feels like a huge miss. Is that no one ever misses a significant chunk of time. When they travel back to present day, they only ever miss a significant chunk of time. When they go backwards. Wouldn't like an interesting plot line for the show have been, Alice goes back to the nineties and then she gets home and she's missed two months of her current life. They've only ever done it the other way.

[00:41:22] They don't feel like that would have been an easy layup of a plot. It's one of the, the one rule they've established though is every minute that you're in the pond is a minute back home. So they, that is the one rule they've not broken. I mean, that's fair. They've not broken that rule and that would break that rule. I mean, I guess there's other rules they haven't broken, I guess, but I don't know. It feels like we're making, maybe I'm just so used to them breaking rules. that would be the way we get, get, get whoever that girl at the bar is to be tested. That's right. Yeah. If the time doesn't matter, then she can be, uh,

[00:41:51] there may be no better encapsulation of the way home season four than the present day kitchen party, not taking place in the kitchen. Yeah, man, come on. You said kitchen party a thousand times. What are you doing? Uh, and then last one, uh, how is cat going to support herself without like, she was publishing this novel, shutting the paper down. She's writing her novel. How is she going to make money? She's shutting the paper down guys. I don't know what you want. Like it's about time. She's shutting it down.

[00:42:19] We know she's worked very hard on the paper for a long time. Brand. We, it's a big part of every episode, right? She, man, she just toils over that paper. She's shutting it down. It's about time. Who's funding the paper to begin with? I don't, I have no idea. I didn't know it was her decision. Brand. Yeah. How is she going to make money? I don't know why I'm the guy here. Who was paying? If she can shut the paper down unilaterally, who is paying her to begin with? Yeah. Yeah. Is she, she has a kid brand. Is she controlling the paper?

[00:42:49] Does she like, I don't, is she this like the owner? The show has gone out of her way to tell us. Nobody really reads the paper to begin with. How is she going to make money? The audacity for her to have the like lightning bolt idea to shut down the paper in this episode. What are we doing? The paper's been done for a long time. You're not getting paid per page when writing the novel. You have to sell the novel to make money. Money. I have a few. That's all I got, Bram. One, did you all notice,

[00:43:19] did you all notice Kat's face after Elliot and Nick's song at the kitchen party? This woman hates this guy. Yeah. Hates him with a fiery passion. Everything that Elliot does annoys the living daylight down her. Yeah. To be fair, it was awful. And to be fair, it doesn't matter what room it's in, kitchen, living room, fireplace. I'm not staying for it. That was abysmal. And like, but,

[00:43:48] but her reaction is like, she doesn't with every fiber of her being, she does. I wish he wasn't around. Same hard. Same. Guys. Am I crazy? I didn't feel like the handwriting was remotely the same in between. It was like, it could have been closer. I didn't look too carefully. I just took, maybe I can bring it. Maybe I can bring it up and show you to me. The, the, the,

[00:44:16] the writing in the 1800s. In the, in the, what do they call it? The almanac. Almanac. That's what I call it. Yeah. I am almanac. Hi, I'm almanac. Almanac. Seven o'clock. Was like, very like, I don't, it didn't look to me to be the same. And so when they said it, I was like, we're looking at, we're looking at two different handwriting samples, but maybe I'll show it to you later. Show it to me later. And you can get, and then last but not least, I'm going to bring this up.

[00:44:45] Nick is going to time travel. Yeah. And he says, what should I do? Should I grab a towel? Should I go change? Just trust me. And she says, no. Yes. Go change, Nick. You are wearing jeans. And Kat, Kat, don't, just because you always do it in jeans, doesn't mean everybody else wants to be walking around on their first time traveling trip. Soggy jeans.

[00:45:14] In their soggy soaking jeans. Most people don't want to. You, you should, you should have let them change. You should have let them change. She says, trust me. It's wrong. You don't even get it. A towel. And I'll be honest. If I, if I am wearing jeans and I know I'm about to jump on a pond and I say, should I go change? And that person says, trust me. I want to be like, Oh, wonderful. I'm going to pop out of the pond. And be dry. And be dry. Or. In swimming trunks. In swimming trunks.

[00:45:42] Or in different apparel or something that isn't jeans. Nah. I don't think that's happening. The show has been consistent with this. And so congratulations to them, but I hate it. Just wait till when you ask, how do I like travel with my phone through the pond? And they're like, just a Ziploc bag. It's easy. It's easy. Great. Great callback. Great callback. Yeah. Jacob really just hung up the phone. Huh? He, he heard his mom's voice go, Jacob, Jacob,

[00:46:12] I can't hear you. And decided just better off. You're just better off without me. You know what I mean? There's no way around it. I've heard enough. I've heard my mom yell my name twice. And you guys clearly don't want me around. I think the evidence is clear. What's going on there? What in the world could he have possibly been thinking? To pick, call, she answers on a landline and knows it's him with no caller ID. She answers on a landline with no screen anywhere and just goes, Jacob,

[00:46:42] Jacob, oh my God. And he's like, I'll see you sucker. Is your refrigerator running? Got him. That's what he does. I, I just, if you want me to believe that Jacob believes that the Landry family is better off without him, do some work to make it matter. It's like hearing Jimmy, Jimmy Stewart run through the house on Christmas night. after an amazing, like an amazing evening with an angel and being like, oh, dad still hates us. After being like, oh, oh, oh, everybody. Where's my family? Oh,

[00:47:12] dad hates us again. Yeah. Yeah. She was, Andy McDowell. I don't get that from that. I don't know. I don't know how he possibly got what he got. And then he's running a bar. How did he do that that quickly? It's not, it's not important. Maybe a bunch of times passed, but the, the lack of them knowing what to do with that character. I think he had another gig or something. That was like a big part of this. Like he had to leave for a while. Cause he had other acting responsibilities elsewhere, but it's just very, very lazy, but not as lazy as them trying to fix the 84 to 82 thing.

[00:47:43] You know, they're just trying to fix it. They're trying to act like, we don't know what your cat was born in from season one. And they're doing that. It would be great if they were doing it suddenly, you know, if they were just like trying to sneak it into paperwork, but now they're just like having different characters. They're like betting them $50. They can't throw that fun fact into a sentence. Like at one point, Alice goes, mom was born in 1982 to everyone in the room who would know that information. I like what, why do you need to keep telling us aside from the fact that you,

[00:48:12] you F it up a few seasons ago and you're trying to fix it with just a preponderance of evidence that it was 1982, not 1984, which is really stupid. It's really, really stupid is what it is. Um, and I guess Fern thinking that cat needs to be in jail to, so the boys can't get to her, whatever the name is, the, the Scuggins gang, the organs brothers, whatever. Uh, I guess it makes sense. It's a crime. I don't like,

[00:48:42] I don't like, if Fern is not nefarious, which I don't think she is. Cause she's still around, you know, in the seventies and eighties. Like I, I, I, I just feel like there had to be a better way. You want to talk about a bad cliffhanger. She's been drugged and falls to the ground, which it turns out was arrested just for being drunk in public. You gave him the benefit of the doubt. That was not the way to go. This show doesn't know what they're doing.

[00:49:08] I will argue there is still a world where they're still working together. And it wasn't a plan. that would be great. It's still, I'll accept that. But Dan, there's a narrow lane or that prohibition agent walks into a speakeasy. Does he arrest the folks selling alcohol? Does he arrest the folks that have the alcohol in the back? Does he arrest the folks manufacturing it? No, he arrests the one person who falls down. That's who he arrests. That's just not, not how that would go. And so, you know, at this point,

[00:49:37] if Fern and him are not working together, the fact that she, the excuse was, I drugged you to keep you safe. Holy moly. That's bad. We have to hope brands right here, because if not, there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that really doesn't add up about the 1920s at all. So that's pretty, pretty tough. I'd say that for years though. Yeah. Amen. Brother weird time. It's a weird, it's a weird time. It's a weird time. That's all I got. All right. It's time for sink or swim. It's where we talk about things that are sinking us or swimming us. Ry guy.

[00:50:07] I'm right down the middle here because I'm trying to figure out. Three. You're floating is what you're doing. I'm on, I'm on the old inflatable dragon. Yeah. And trying to figure out what instrument would I bring to a kitchen party? Maybe a kazoo. man. Guitar. That'd be what I'm most comfortable with. That's what I, well, I bring a little bongo drum. Maybe cajon. Cajon. Cajon. A cajon. Yeah.

[00:50:38] All right. Kazoos are welcomed. All right. You, I feel like I could probably just, but also friendship's the best instrument of them all. You get it. I love you, man. I love you, buddy. How was it for me? Love you. I will say, I, this was a wait, what's as well, but also like I, it has to, it has to be something right. He, Elliot sits down at the piano, hits one of the notes and he's like, this note is just, that's right. And then they just never mentioned. They never mentioned. Yeah. There has to be something in the piano, right?

[00:51:08] There has to be a note or a something that is stuck. One would think stuck onto that key. And at some point it's going to click. Yeah. Right. You literally, it has to, it, it, it, this is what we're mine. I am of the Hallmark movie mystery. I am a hopeful that this show will not have a character sit down, hit a note and go stay. That's one. That one's all that one sticky. That one's always. And then never mentioned, never mentioned it.

[00:51:38] The guy, the piano sticking again, especially on a, especially on a show where they're like always finding last scene of the way home series finale. They're playing and Ellie goes, still sticks. And then they pan out. They turn the lights off. Class dismissed. I don't know. Like that just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Something has to be in the piano. Got it. Something that's got to matter. We'll see. It won't matter. It's got, if we know anything about this show, we're going back to the 1800s and the piano doesn't matter. Yeah. It's probably accurate.

[00:52:08] Probably accurate. Yeah. Um, I know that we're supposed to care a great deal about tests. Um, I know that I don't because it hasn't been a plot point until. Uh, yes, exactly. Um, I am fascinated with the angry fern of the 19 of 1979. I'm a, I, I care about the, what is that about? Yeah. The shouting fit that she had and what that means. I do care. That's the one thing I care about.

[00:52:38] So if I have to find something I'm swimming about, it's that. Thank you for swimming. Thank you, man. I'm trying my best. I don't want to be on that dragon float. I love a dragon float, but I'm, I want to get out there and swim. You know what I mean? Get my lap. I get it, brother. Like, I wonder if bear with me here. Okay. I see that hand. So in the eighties, fun comes out is mad. Yells at fern. 79. 79. You're never going to be a part of this family, right? You're never like, no matter how you're never going to be a part of this. Correct.

[00:53:05] What if she is the person that's Grayson married in 26 with, with a theory of, Oh, he, maybe he did end up marrying fern. And so maybe there's like residual, uh, time travel dust. I can get from being married to grace. And maybe that would allow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So fern, I understand,

[00:53:34] but doesn't Tesla go to 1880 and then live all, wouldn't she be like 60 and marrying grace in a 1926? She'd be like 60 years old. I'm just trying. You're good. It's a good, just trying stuff. Like they'd say it, they're like, Oh, he got married to somebody in 26. I'm sorry. Yeah. And leave that door open. She would be by their, by their rules. She would be in her six. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. Right. I'm just trying to think of like, like that would be a thing like, Oh,

[00:54:00] you stole my man from me just to try to be a part of our, like in a, in a weird way, that would make sense. Try to be a part of the family in some sort. Like you're, I don't know. At 60, you stole my man from me in the 1920s. Yes. To try to be able to get back into the park. it makes the, it makes the motivation of old Fern in 79 makes sense. It doesn't jive with the age that she would be at the time. Although, I mean, I do feel like Grayson is a good bit older than Fern. Like he looks older to me. He's not in his 60s. I mean,

[00:54:29] like maybe eight years old. I don't know. I'm just, guys, I'm just goofing here. You're good. The family works. But if you're desperate, if you're desperate to get back home, timeout, timeout. She went back to a year we've not been to yet because when, when cat goes to the 1800s, it's the war of 1812, 1814. They're saying that tests went back to the 1880s.

[00:55:04] Yeah. That's right. So then that's just a time we've not visited in my head. In my, Oh, they're definitely going back to the 1800s. Now in my head, she went back to when you brand. Yeah. I got to be honest. I didn't know when in the 1800s that took place. Well, it's the war of 1812. Remember I got corrected on a bunch of war to 1812 stuff by our war of 1812 scholar, Kathy, who was correct. Like they're in the war of 1812. Okay. 1896.

[00:55:32] So it would only be 30 years to 1920. That's what they're, so they're saying that, uh, okay. So she's 50, but then, okay. Okay. She'd be 50 in 1926. But it's possible. What, uh, happened here? Cause they're going to look at, uh, sorry guys, we're pulling up the episode right now. They look at the death, uh, what was written to the death of Jacob. Yeah. Junior here, which is when,

[00:56:02] when did, um, 1887, 1887 on the, on Christmas day, December 25th, 1887. Okay. Yeah. All right. So she was there. Okay. So look at that handwriting. Right. You see that? Yeah. I'm going to fast forward while we're here. Yeah. Then look at, Oh, that's nothing alike. No. Are they looking at, are they looking side to side? That's still in the almanac. Look at the letter. Are they going to show it? Maybe they already did. Anyway.

[00:56:32] Uh, all right, everybody. I've got other thoughts, but we don't have to do that now. We can let Ryan go. If you ride, right guys has to go. I would assume we can do this. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm, I'm open to listen. Like, so, but to your point, if you like what you're saying is, is Kat's been in the twenties and has been to 1814. She can't go anywhere in between there. Is that what you're saying is an unwritten rule? Uh, because no, that wasn't what I was saying. Actually, but what I was saying was, I got to be honest with you.

[00:57:00] I didn't know when in the 1800s it was. Okay. So in my mind, when they're talking about the 1800s, they're talking about the same time period that she already went to. So my thought process was, well, she's already been to that part of the 1800s and she wasn't there. So she can't be there. That's right. But she, she hasn't, she's not been to 1896 before. She's only been to 1814. So she, like, this is a whole nother time period. That's like gilded age brand. Yeah. Your favorite. And it would only be what?

[00:57:30] Approximately 30 years. 30 years between her getting there and her marrying Grayson. If that's the theory, which would put her at 50. Grayson's probably 40. They could maybe try to make that work. I mean, it doesn't, I'm going to complain. I'm going to tell you it doesn't work. Yeah. Okay. Look, look at the two different handwritings here, Dan. Okay. So they're going to show you the, uh, the almanac there. And then the, this right. It's not even close. That's completely different. It's not even close. It's not even close. Thank you. You undersold it.

[00:57:59] Those are two different. One is in cursive. One is in cursive. And one's not print. Maybe I'm missing something guys. It's possible, but I was very confused. That's maybe, maybe Kat is going to work for like autograph authentication services. Yeah. Maybe she can just tell. She's got to shut down the paper. We know that. All right. We're going to be back next week with another one. Um, so coming back and we'll find out where we're going. We'll find out, I think pretty early on in the episode where we're going. And this whole debate will be for not, uh,

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