Ryan joins us this week to head back to the pond for another episode of The Way Home.
ABOUT: THE WAY HOME (SEASON 4 EPISODE 5)
When Nick joins Kat on her search for more information about Elliot's mother in the 1920s, the two realize they may be in over their heads.
AIR DATE & NETWORK FOR: THE WAY HOME (SEASON 4 EPISODE 5)
May 17, 2026 | Hallmark Channel
CAST & CREW OF: THE WAY HOME (SEASON 4 EPISODE 5)
- Chyler Leigh as Kat Landry
- Evan Williams as Elliot Augustine
- Sadie Laflamme as Alice Dhawan
- Andie MacDowell as Del Landry
BRAN’S THE WAY HOME (SEASON 4 EPISODE 5) SYNOPSIS
Kat and Nick come out of the water and Nick is loving life.
Alice sees Del’s horse running wild and is like, “Oh no, where’s Grandma?!” We see Del hear Colton’s voice. He asks her to take his hand and she says, “I wish I could.” He tells her to just try. They walk back to the house together, but Alice can’t see Colton. HE’S A GHOST!
Kat and Nick pop up in the 1920s.
Alice is checking on Del when Sam shows up. Alice didn’t know who else to call. Suddenly, there’s another knock at the door. It’s Julian with wine. Del is like, “How about you pour me a glass and I’ll tell you what’s going on?”
Alice is trying to snag the almanac when Cliff comes in and is like, “…What are you doing in my house?”
Del tells the fellas to scram so she can talk to ghost Colton. She’s like, “You’re not real.” He responds, “Feels pretty real to me.”
Kat tells Nick to keep the Auggie boys occupied while she goes looking for Fern. She goes to the paper and doesn’t find Fern, but she does find a copy of Alice in Wonderland, inscribed “To Fern, from Auntie Coop.” Could it be Fern Cooper? Grayson is there, though, and thinks they should get to know each other more since it seems like Fern trusts her. He tells her about Auntie Coop — she’s not actually family, just very close to Fern, even though she travels a lot. Kat goes to leave but overhears Grayson on the phone yelling, “GET RID OF HER!”
Alice and Elliot jump in the pond and end up in the ’70s, where Elliot lays eyes on his mom. They follow her back and see Colton devastated because they lost the baby. They overhear Elliot’s mom saying she’s finally ready to be a mom.
Julian comes over to ask Del out now that things are off between her and Sam. Del ends up going to check on her horse and talk more with Colton. She runs after him into the cornfield, where she faints. Alice goes out to find her and realizes she has a concussion.
Elliot sees his mom tuck a couple of Evelyn’s tarot cards into her dress before heading inside. Then his dad shows up, and Elliot overhears him talking about how much he hopes he can be a father someday.
Kat and Nick go to the hideout the Auggie boys told Nick about. They overhear that Grayson sent Fern away and that Coop better not show herself around there again.
Alice goes to check on Del and sees how heartbroken she is without Jacob, so she tries calling him.
Kat and Nick run when the Auggie boys spot them. As they head toward the pond, they finally come across Fern. Kat confronts her about Auntie Coop, and Fern is like, “It’s finally happened. You asked the right questions. She told me this day would come.” They ask what happened to Coop, but before she can explain much, the Auggie boys show up again. They make a run for the pond, and for a second it looks like Nick is going to get stuck in the ’20s — but he barely makes it back.
Alice checks on Del again, but she won’t wake up. Suddenly, Jacob shows up, and Del finally wakes when she realizes he’s calling to her while dream-Colton tells her she has to go. Kat arrives home, and they all celebrate being back together as a family.
But Elliot secretly takes Kat’s keys on the way out so he can break into the archives and try to uncover more answers about where his mom might be.
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[00:00:02] This is a Bramble Jam Podcast Hi, I'm Brian and I love The Way Home Hi, I'm Ryan and I have my notes I'm Dan and more of nothing is still nothing and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast Deck The Hallmark gets this podcast And friends host this podcast We hope you like this jolly podcast
[00:00:32] Guys, we're not going to do this anymore I think, I think Oh no, are you mad? Oh, here we go It's a business meeting everybody I think I know what you're about to do Alonzo Okay, go ahead Alonzo Duraldi Is allowed to change what he says I'm allowed to change it You can't stop me No, we have a thing I'm love, you're like, you're despised
[00:00:59] Guys, people expect a certain thing out of us This is predicated on the fact that you think someone's joining in just for season 4 episode 5 of The Way Home I just think that it's, we, Dan, we thought it important when we began and we think it important now We can't, just because Alonzo does it, does it make it okay for all of us? I'm going to continue to do it, but thanks for the input I'm not going to do it, I won't do it for Christmas movies
[00:01:27] If it's a movie that's a one-off, I think I'm with you If it's The Way Home I also don't want to lie to the audience, man Yeah Like, I I mean, the only reason Ryan would say that Winter Soldier is a better movie than Black Panther is He has to be honest to who he is He would not do it otherwise Yeah I mean, I could tell you why I feel that way, but I don't know if this is the right forum Let me ask you this, Ry guy Have you started working on your wishlist yet?
[00:01:54] I know you're a big gift guy For Christmas? Christmas or birthday or anything like that No, birthday just happened But yeah, I have a rough draft of a Christmas list I thought you might, because I know you love gifts I know that at Christmas time you want a lot of little gifts You want to open them up I want to know, you are also I also have a great gift giver We don't talk about enough here Well, we're not going to start today
[00:02:23] You're also getting married this year And you're going to be getting a lot of gifts for that So I want to know, like, how are you beginning to process what life might look like post-marriage And how that might change what Christmas might look like Specifically this year Your wedding Well, it's an interesting question I mean, I would imagine you guys could tell me You both have gone through your nuptial process That Three times The nuptial process Yeah, yeah, of course One time
[00:02:53] One time I imagine I imagine primarily that we, the collective Alyssa and I Will probably just get a lot of cash gifts Yes Yeah, or off of your registry The days of the blender are Unless you register for one and give people a registry Right, we've worked together for a couple years So I don't, like, we haven't necessarily done that yet But I don't think we're going to need a lot of That is true, they always say if you're already living in sin Just give money It's easier That's the same, you know, that's what they say So Yeah Yeah, yeah
[00:03:22] So I don't know how that will impact I mean, what we I mean, we have to plan a honeymoon and what have you But yes, Bran, I have started This is a tough spot you're putting me in, Bran Because I Because it's May and no self Like, no good adult has thought about this shit It's good to look ahead If you're forcing me to pull back the curtain once again Rye and I have already talked about this So I may have known that Rye guy is already working on his Christmas list
[00:03:50] So here's the way that Alyssa and I do it Is that See, I just don't want to put her in a bad spot, right? Like, so We get each other three I think I've talked about this before We get each other three, like, really big gifts Goldfrank is a smurr I think we already talked about that, yes She's a smurr Yes Yeah, it's really I mean, it's rooted in the meaning of the day And then nine smaller gifts To twelve gifts of Christmas And we can talk about the ins and outs of that We'll get closer to the winter solstice But I
[00:04:21] One of my big three I already have in mind But it's like It's like a lot of money And I don't know what's proper So here's the problem Alyssa listens to this So it's like She and I haven't talked about this yet So let me ask you this And I'm just gonna full-fledged interrupt you Because it's hard for me to like Listen to this I What? I No What? The breakdown Sorry That sounded really mean Like the breakdown Because it was
[00:04:48] The breakdown of your gift-giving tradition In May Like talking about this in May And planning for it in May Is like something I would have watched On a TLC reality show For the Philo Deep Top That's what that is But Rest in peace Of course Obviously Let me ask you this Yeah You guys will get a lot of money I remember My wedding in 2006 Coming up on 20 years I've been married My wife and I went To Jamaica A trip paid for
[00:05:18] By her family That was your honeymoon? That was our honeymoon Nice Bermuda? No, Jamaica Ooh, I wanna take you Ah The We left straight from the reception To the To Charlotte Stayed in a hotel that night Flew out the next morning My family Gathered up all the gifts Took them to my apartment Our apartment And left them there We get back from our honeymoon I I cannot describe how little money we had My grandfather Walked up to me And gave me
[00:05:47] Three $100 bills At the reception Because that's how he always did things He waited till no one was around He got his wallet out He had planned accordingly But would have never told you He acted like it was just a random thing And he gave me $300 That is how I paid For the hotel in Charlotte Without that money I still don't know how I would have paid For the hotel in Charlotte I assume my dad or someone was covering it They were not That is how I paid for that When we got back From an all expenses paid All inclusive trip I was like, alright Next paycheck comes in on Friday
[00:06:17] That's literally how we're gonna make it When we get back to the The apartment It was like Real Christmas morning Like needed The amount of cash in there Was quad digits, right? And that was 20 years ago I can imagine A wedding of the size That you're talking about You're going to be in For thousands of dollars Now Real quick It's important for me to interrupt you I wanna make it clear Because At no point in this The text conversation with Bran Had I said By the way We're gonna get a lot of money From the wedding And I think that's gonna help me
[00:06:46] Score this Christmas gift Sometimes I come very poorly In these anecdotes No No My question is When you guys get back Cause you guys have separate You've lived together first You have separate bank Like Yeah When my wife and I got this money We had our bank One bank account With double digit dollars in it And it all just went in there Right? You guys have careers I was 22 when I got married You're almost 15 years older than that Like you have careers You have lives You have your own bank account Your own thing going on And that's awesome
[00:07:15] When you guys get this money Are you just 50-50 No I believe we're gonna I believe we're gonna make The two little waffles They're gonna Big waffles The two shall become one Okay so it's going to be Yeah yeah yeah So that was The reason I asked that Is because You have this big gift You wanna get Alyssa Your half No no he has a gift That he wants to get him That he wants himself Oh dear god This is not I thought you were excited About a gift to get Alyssa How about we get to the way home This is unbelievable This is for himself
[00:07:45] This is incorrigible How about we get to the way home I cannot believe we did this How about we get to the way home So you don't wanna say Well I want a Nintendo Switch 2 Oh my god We can talk about that Cause it's big in my house right now too Why do you want a Switch 2 Right My kids are dying for a Switch 2 Yeah And what I finally did with them Cause they kept going Why do they want one I mean probably cause they're of age For it right They want it specifically Yeah they are the They're children But they wanna switch to
[00:08:14] Specifically for the Batman Lego game Oh okay See I want it for Star Fox Yes But Star Fox I would get some Star Fox as well Now I They get allowance every week for me For my wife and I And same bank account And so They came out one day And brought both of their money boxes And they poured it all on the table And they're like We're buying a Switch 2 today And I knew they didn't have near enough money So they counted up This thing's expensive It's crazy And so they counted up their money And it was double digit dollars
[00:08:42] And I said you can't do it It's this much And they got real discouraged Very Anywhere even remotely close It was not even halfway there It was like $50 Double digits Oh okay Okay sorry I heard triple digits Yeah no double digits Okay And so They You could tell they wanted to quit And I said you know what guys If you will do this I will match you dollar for dollar So every dollar that you save Try that with Alyssa Every dollar that you save I will put in a dollar towards the Switch Now I also know So what I told them was
[00:09:12] Is you gotta raise $225 That's what I told them Right Which by the This is for Christmas Or just whenever they do it This is whenever they do it Oh they can do this easy So they're They're currently up to $128 Oh we're there And their birthday's next week And so They're pretty much there Which is crazy Donations count right They don't have Donations count If you donated money to them right now They would You would make their year The problem is I got them a really nice 3D printer For their birthday And if they get a Switch 2 as well There's never There's no recovering Cause I didn't think
[00:09:42] They were gonna raise it this fast But they are working Very very hard To get a Switch 2 They're in it But they got They have a don't They have a matcher They have an angel giver So like you're in it Did you cap it? If I give them like $100,000 You gotta match that No no Just $225 So they have to raise $225 Not that I have $100,000 lying around But I do like it as a bit I do think there's something to that That's funny But at this point If someone were to give We'll take out a loan If someone were to give them Get back for the Feeny thing Yeah
[00:10:10] If someone were to give them $93 right now I would be in it I would have to go Right After purchasing them A more than I wanted to spend 3D printer I would have to go and get them a Switch How nice of a 3D printer Not to change topics But there's some Power Ranger stuff I need 3D printed It's a toy box But it's the nicest toy box It's a brand Okay I don't think it's that level It's four kids It's four children Okay so like if I wanted to 3D print like a helmet It's not No it was $500
[00:10:39] It's not like a crazy one Right Just ask Yeah but they It has an app and it has all the different types All the different colors And they can just put the thing They can literally Add that to the list though Like while you're Yeah While you're doing it While you're asking for expensive gifts Yes Throw a 3D printer So no I did So but what's cool about Dan Your situation is like You'll get used out of this Switch too Yeah You'll get used out of it The other thing that I'm not telling them And this I think is above board is Is I can take the Switch one to GameStop And get $90 for it Yeah so you're like You're down to like $145 That's right
[00:11:08] So my match is including the trade-in Right So like I'm not I'm not fully So like if they earn $225 They're not going to call you out on this And bring it to court Then they get We'll cover it We'll gavel gavel It's really $315 And so then I'm out like $135 And I have three aftermarket controllers That will work Four aftermarket controllers Oh so yeah right That will already work on the Switch too So you're good to go Yes Yeah Lego Batman already out Lego Batman is already out It's $60, $70 Who's buying that game? I will buy the game as well And that will not come out of the room
[00:11:38] But then I mean like If that's really what they wanted You can just ride You can just ride the Lego Batman train for a while They don't need another game anytime soon All the Switch games still Oh that's right Yeah Rinse wash repeat That's right So they got Oh there's a new Ninja Turtles They love the Ninja Turtles The arcade style Ninja Turtle game Yeah yeah yeah That one Shredder's Revenge We play all the time Incredible game Incredible game And I hear the one on Switch 2 Is even better Splinter or something It is I hear it's even better That's what it's called Splinter They ran out of the good ideas That's actually the name of this Way Home episode Splinter something Yeah
[00:12:08] Rag I'm sorry if I put you in a tough spot there I wasn't sure if you were right No this was probably the best Because I've been thinking about it For the last few days Like do I just bring it up to her now It's like And so this was probably the best way To rip the bandaid off And ultimately No one in this audience Is going to judge Alyssa If she doesn't Pony up for a Switch 2 for me They never do That's a lot of money Exactly If she's got The best way to do it Rag I If she's got to buy you 11 other gifts That's a lot This is why This is why This is why I said to Bran As a buddy I was like Do you think that this is above border I'm Listen
[00:12:37] I know that I don't always look great In these examples I take my belt off At the dinner table I don't expect people To think That's real That's also why You don't text me about it either That's not a saying If anybody's going to Take your side on it It's going to be Bran You know it Yeah But like listen You know We were at Old Navy the other day This is probably a story For next week We're already running along And I was like She's just a pod story She was like I don't know if the audience Is going to be with you on this one I said They never are Like you know And that's okay But that's like You know
[00:13:07] I keep myself accountable here You know what I'm saying He takes his belt off at dinner You know what I mean That's One loop at a time He wants a list To buy him 11 gifts And the gift My 10 year olds want So he said This was the conversation So you'll definitely have it by July I guess I could Oh You'll have Star Fox By the time I'm over in July Almost definitely If you want to come over And play video games With my children You're more than welcome to do so Yeah I missed out on burgers last year
[00:13:35] So maybe we just make that all in one Yeah You know One little package That's right You asked me Do you think That I shouldn't ask About the Switch 2 I said She's your fiance And then you said And And I said You should absolutely ask Yeah I think that was in the context Of bringing it up on the pod Yeah yeah You should absolutely ask That's right What's the old Navy story Did we do that one yet No We can save that for next Okay Save it Save it Alright
[00:14:04] Let's see how fast I can do this Let's see how fast I can do this The Way Home Season 4 Episode 5 Is called 15 minutes in talking about gifts And you're worried about our intro Get out of here Don't cry out loud Is the name of the title Of the episode Is the name of the title Of the episode May 17th 2026 When air to win a little Something like this Cat and Nick Come out of the water Nick's loving life He's so thrilled To finally have time to travel Alice sees Dell's Horse running wild And is like Oh no Where's grandma We see Dell Hear Colton's voice
[00:14:33] His hand reaches down He's like Hey Take my hand And she's like I don't think I can do that And he's like Just try And then she goes He's a ghost He's a ghost Cat and Nick Pop up in the 20s Alice is checking on Dell And Sam shows up Alice didn't know Who else to call Suddenly There's another knock on the door Who is it It's Julian And he has brought wine Dell is like How about you pour me A glass of wine And I'll tell you
[00:15:02] About what's been going on Okay Alice is trying to I'm sorry Cat is trying to Snag the almanac When Cliff comes in And is like What are you doing In my house Dell Tells the Fellas to scram So that she can talk To the ghost Of her dead husband She's like You're not real And he's like Feels pretty real To me Okay Cat tells Nick To keep the Augie boys occupied While she goes Looking for Fern She goes to the paper
[00:15:31] Doesn't find Fern But does find a copy Of Alice in Wonderland And inside It is inscribed With a message From Auntie Coop Could it be Fern Cooper Yeah I think it could be Grayson is there Though And is like Hey I feel like We should get to Know each other It seems like Fern Trust you a lot He tells Her about Auntie Coop And she's not Actually a part Of the family Very close to Fern Even though She travels A lot
[00:16:01] She goes to leave But hears Grayson Talk on the phone Yelling Get rid of her Loudly Yeah loud Alice and Elliot Jump in the pond And end up in the 70s Where Elliot lays Eyes on his mom They follow her back To see Colton sad Because they lost The baby They start talking And he hears His mom say That she's ready To be a mom And he's like Oh my gosh She's talking about me
[00:16:30] Julian comes over To ask Del out Now that things are Off between her and Sam Del ends up Going to check On her horse And talk more To Colton She ends up Running after him In a cornfield Where she faints Del goes Sam goes out To find Del Finds her She's concussed Everybody In case that wasn't clear Elliot Sees his mom
[00:16:59] Put a couple of Evelyn's Torah cards In her dress And then head inside Then his dad Shows up He ends up Talking to his Dad's younger self And hearing about How he was hoping That one day He could be a great father And blah blah blah Cat and Nick Go to where the Augie boys Told Nick Their hideout was They hear that Grayson Sent Fern Away And that Coop Better not show Herself around
[00:17:29] Here again Alice goes To talk to Del And sees how sad She is without Jacob So she tries To call him And then Del's Like just sleeping Cat and Nick Run away From the Augie boys As they're heading Towards the pond Fern is back Everybody Cat confronts her About Auntie Coop And Fern is like Finally You are asking The right questions Although I feel like She's asked that question Before but whatever They ask about
[00:17:59] What happened to Coop Before she can give Much of an answer The Augie boys show up They run into the pond And for a second It looks like Nick Is going to get stuck In the 20th scene Instead of making it In the pond No problem Alice Checks on Del again She won't wake up Suddenly Jacob shows up And is calling Out to her She hears his voice In the dream Colton tells her That it's time for Her to go back And be with her son again Cat wakes up Cat shows up And they're all together As a family As Del comes to
[00:18:28] Elliot though Ends up leaving Grabbing Cat's keys On the way out So that he can go Into the archives And try to find More answers About where his mom Might be And that my friends Was The Way Home Season 4 Episode 5 Don't cry out loud We did it Are you okay That's a good cry But Rye Don't cry out loud What like Come on man Do your best To not cry out loud Follow the instructions Okay you ready Ready
[00:18:58] Yeah that was pretty good That was pretty good That's good Alright we're gonna take a break We're gonna come back We're gonna break this episode Down here on The Declamark I'm still doing it Everybody welcome back We're talking about The Way Home Season 4 Episode 5 Is this halfway Did we land on 10 episodes Yes it is 10 We are halfway I did find out this week
[00:19:27] Apparently they didn't know They didn't know This was the last season When they were working That's brutal I gotta be honest My heart shattered for them But also Makes the love triangle Make sense Yes Out of nowhere Let's get to our thoughts On this We're gonna start With a hot ticket So we're gonna share Exactly how we found About this episode I'll start with you Ryguy Yeah there was some yucks In the 20s With Nick And the absurdity Good yucks Like laughter yucks Okay Yeah I like You know it was fine
[00:19:56] But there have been Other types of yuck With Nick There have been other yucks Yes Yeah that was Freudian The absurdity Of the Julian stuff Continued to work for me But then they totally Seemingly resolved it In the same episode I actually really liked Gabriel Hogan here Playing against type Than his usual Christmas There Diminishing returns On Kat Going to jail And they just can't Get me to care About Elliot
[00:20:26] Even though the scene With his dad In the past Was quite nice As was the scene Between Del and Jacob But if it sounded Like I was just Kind of yada yada yada Between and through all that It's because I was One Because the season Is yada yada yada But two Also because There are two big things I want to talk about here The first is what Bran just mentioned Which is that It seems like A chunk Of this season If not more than A chunk of it Was filmed Without them having Any idea that This would be The final season To Dan's point Again We haven't loved
[00:20:56] The last couple seasons But that's a bummer These people have worked Very very hard on the show They clearly had A five season vision Even if we don't Like that vision That stinks However also We as an audience now Especially the three of us As an audience Who have not liked These last couple seasons Are now looking at a scenario After a season three finale Which we thought Although imperfect I really enjoyed And thought could have been A good series finale I don't know Whether they had Days Weeks Whatever To find a way To wrap up These clearly Storylines That they were not
[00:21:26] Intending to be The end game Of the show To now have to be End game Of the show We're looking at Potentially A very very rough Last couple episodes Specifically A very rough Series finale That was never Unfortunate level Of rough series finale Right Somewhat not their fault But also Could just really be rough My bigger thing This is why I didn't want to spend Too much time On anything else
[00:21:56] This really made me mad There was a moment Episode In this episode Brand that really Really made me mad Because four seasons Later I'm still foggy What did it make you? Lad Made me My lad Brand It made me My lad It made me very upset Top of the morning To you Are you sad Or are you mad? Yeah He's lad And the rest of the day To you Four seasons later Four years later I think legitimately When did the show
[00:22:25] Debut brand 2022 23 I think it's been What a year 23 24 25 26 23 Okay that's right Yep The kid actor Who plays Jacob Looks relatively The same Yeah Now this might not Seem like a big deal You might be going Oh cool They brought back Kid Jacob For this episode And they did a flashback And to go to 2024 Season 2 All of us went Alright we don't like That Jacob Is now an adult But maybe they did it Because
[00:22:55] Kid Jacob Isn't gonna look The same Because he's growing In his life And that emotional Beat Is gonna hit And now they couldn't Have known this right I understand that But That might But We all would agree That Unequivocally Even if you love This show Even if you Think that we're The dumbest folks On the planet We all would agree That the stronger Story beat And emotional moment Would have been For Kat To find
[00:23:25] Young Jacob Whether it be The 1800s Or whatever Right And this kid Looks relatively The same Well Is it not possible That everything Like all They already had All this footage Of him Like You think they're Using old footage No This is No No Are you Did you watch No There's no way That would be An impressive amount Of old footage They're bringing This kid in What's he doing It's a flashback Scene with With clearly Papa Landry Is a
[00:23:54] 2026 Look He's But what's The kid doing In the episode What is the kid Answer the question He's saying mom Okay Wake up mom Right Yeah Yeah Brand This was a scene Filmed I mean I would Love to get The There's just no World I don't think Where they had A scene The technological Advancement That they would Have to be Doing to make That happen Or they Happen to have A scene From four years Ago That they Didn't use That would be
[00:24:24] The other option That's hard For me to believe I had to go back And take it A tape I didn't see Anything in This episode That I think Necessarily has To be new Footage Of the kid Oh I thought It was the kid I think that You can use Old footage No Of him Running around And what not And put him In new stuff I just know The scene of him On the porch Or wherever they are In this episode And they viewed him Several times last season With clearly newly shot Scenes from the 90s I don't want to belabor This point I'm just saying For the show To like
[00:24:53] They just They could have just There was such a better way The show could have Still stunk But like If they had just stuck My biggest problem With this show And I know I said Last week I wouldn't keep Bringing this up But like The biggest problem With this show Is they had one Clear objective In the middle of season 2 Or by the end of it To reunite Jacob With his family And that wasn't good And uncoincidentally to me The rest of the show Hasn't been very good Since For them to Brandon
[00:25:23] Unless you're right And they couldn't Have known this But like The kid Looks and sounds Relatively the same We could have At least done that Really makes me mad You could be right But I doubt it So we are Watching this early And so this episode Doesn't have its stuff Out yet on IMDB But This does say He was in The finale Of last season As a new actor Yeah they have shot New stuff with this kid That's not necessarily If you're using Old footage of him Stuff that was shot
[00:25:53] They gotta pay him still They gotta pay him Or at least give him credit But Brandon No offense I really don't wanna be I really don't wanna be Hard on the creators here Because again These people were really hard But you really think That this show Which has had inconsistency After inconsistency At the foresight To film Abundance of extra footage With this kid Four years ago What I am saying Is I will go back And I will look I don't feel like I have seen anything Since season one Potentially early on
[00:26:22] In season two Of stuff That couldn't have Already been shot It's a lot of Running around It's a lot Like Which you can take If you have Shots Of him running You can then take that And put it where You need it to be You're not wrong I just think We're giving the show We're giving the show A lot of credit To say that they had All of this footage I think That's my problem Is I don't think You're wrong That it could happen I just think That's What's more realistic That the kid Looks
[00:26:52] That a growing Child Looks the same He doesn't look The exact same He doesn't look The exact same But it's close Which the show Couldn't have known My only point Is saying that Four years later Two years ago They could have Just done The moment That we were all Expecting Remember when Adult Jacob Shows up Two years ago All three of us Bozos Were like That can't be The real Jacob They couldn't Possibly screw This up And not have The cathartic Emotional moment He does look Like a little man That is his
[00:27:21] IMDB photo And then Try to Try to Pull up What he looks Like on the On the bench But Brian You would agree That it was A creative Miss To not Do that Two years ago And now to keep Bringing him back Now for Less meaningful And less impactful Scenes Is like Diminishing Returns Yes It is a Creative Mistake Yeah If they have If they Could have Used this Kid more
[00:27:51] They could have The entire First season They could have Dragged that out Longer than Yes Absolutely And also I'm not Defending Didn't we Realize that The dog Is going into The pond At the end Of season One Oh yeah What happened With the dog Where is the dog Where is the dog I don't remember Are you I'm shooting Me right now Somebody's yelling At their radio Right now So I'm sure There's something At some point That gave us But why have we Not heard anything About the dog Where is the dog It's possible When is the dog It's possible
[00:28:20] They have said Something about the dog And we missed it Alright No not us Also one last thing Sorry There's clearly Now knowing That this is the finale And they had no intention We're never going to Find out why the pond Why the Landry's That will never get covered No There's only five And if we do It'll be bad It'll be real bad Yeah I've liked this season Overall This episode Was a bit of a miss For me I did feel like Most everything That they do In this particular episode As far as moving The storylines along
[00:28:48] Was not how I would Have wanted it to happen And that's a bit frustrating Dano Yeah I would say that A lot happens In this episode And none of it Is important Like there's going to Be a lot of people Who are like No no no It's important But like Our critique this whole time Is why are you telling Us a new story Like you wrapped up What you need to wrap up And now you're telling Us a new story That we now know Heartbreakingly Isn't what the creators Wanted And that sucks And it sounds like Hallmark did them wrong And that sucks But
[00:29:18] You doing more things Doesn't make it better It just makes it more Like Nick going back In time with Kat I thought for sure There had to be a reason Nick wanted to go I just Like in my head I was like This is going to matter Nick is going to go back For a very specific reason Whether it's He's nefarious Or whether it's He does help Kat Or whether it's There's got to be a reason That he
[00:29:47] Just wormed his way Into going It isn't It isn't It's just stupid And the actors Are all fine It's just Stupid Why is he going back In time with her Is it I When he was like I'll keep you safe That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard She time travels Once a day This guy can't tie his shoes Kat has time traveled Like so many times And yet That is the plot of this Now does a lot happen Yeah
[00:30:16] Do we get a lot of like Where You know Tess And then this story And then for you to try To make me care about Elliot doing another Time travel To another conversation With another Father figure Get out of here Stop it You did that with Colton already And it worked Pretty well Stop it This is They have nothing They have nothing And unfortunately They're not going to get To end it on their terms So I hate it for them And I know they've worked hard But they got nothing
[00:30:46] Right now And we got five episodes left And we know it's a bridge To nowhere A lot like the sidewalk Being built in our neighborhood It's true They built a sidewalk Down to a cliff I don't know why We'll talk about it Some other time It's real tough So it's frustrating Was this episode More entertaining And did it go by Quicker for me Than the average one Technically yes But was it good No it was not It's time for all the feels We're talking about What in this episode Gave us feels Right guy
[00:31:15] Yeah Nick inventing The fist bump In the 20s Was funny That was a funny bit I'm so happy You liked it Yeah That was it Fran Okay Fair enough Listen I keep I keep Thinking that This horse Situation Is gonna be Colton That was season five That was season five Colton would be But when The original season four Ending is Colton This horse Right But you have to At least In college
[00:31:44] That would gallop us Through five The horse Bucks her off And then suddenly Colton's there Okay It goes Colton Could it have just Been concussion I think that's the Most likely thing But I am gonna Choose to Live in a world Where Colton Is horse Purposely Bucked his wife Off So that she Could then see him As ghost I'm gonna choose To live in that world And that's giving me feels Dan It's a weird world To live in Colton is horse
[00:32:14] You're living there No I don't really Have much Here Alright We'll be right back We'll get to the Way what And the sinker swim Here on Decked all mark Whenever you're ready Kiss it Welcome back We're talking about The way home season Four episode five It's time for our Wait what
[00:32:44] I'll start with you Rye guy Anything make you go Wait what While watching this one I got a couple Yeah Gabriel Doesn't let cat Get even five steps Out of the Open door And he's screaming Before starting to yell And sounding like a madman Yeah Like He can still see her That's right The door's open He may as well Have just been like Plot point Plot point Plot point I'm angry And I want you to Question my motives The only way That it is okay
[00:33:14] Is if it is Some Not her Like If he's talking About someone else That would be Still a crazy thing To do when you know That somebody's right Out there to yell Like You gotta get her Or whatever it is He yelled But If it is about her That's crazy There's a way To do that scene And it's She acts like She's leaving And then she ducks Behind something And then he gets Quiet mad So he's like Let me tell you Something right now If we don't get Rid of her Right Like you know what I mean If he goes low
[00:33:44] Thinking she's gone But whispering Just in case Then that scene Could work Or close the door And have her Stand by it The way that they did It was absurd Like The door's open Real bad Yeah Why would Alice Even remotely For a second Think that She was in the 20s When she has Exclusively time traveled To the 70s All season Oh my god Like Where are we Or where you go Every single episode Can you just get out
[00:34:14] Of jail With no paperwork Like is this like Dude don't get me started I don't You would be willing To admit now That they have F'd up the prohibition They have Yes Like I don't This guy Is a prohibition agent Who's been licensed By the federal government They are not He's not there To arrest drinkers Prohibition agents Didn't do that And yet He has found No distribution Or manufacturing Of alcohol Even though it's happening
[00:34:43] Literally all around him But he's arrested The same woman Three times For holding a flower I just Like you are ruining Dan Janot as a character There's no integrity here There's no authenticity here And it's all important To the show That they get it wrong They If they don't get Prohibition wrong This season doesn't work They're literally getting History wrong To make it work It's embarrassing They could have just Gone to like The 30s instead Yeah bro Yeah
[00:35:12] Dell calling So follow me here Dell calling her horse The wrong name Struck Unreal panic Into Sam Yeah man And that ultimately Saves her life It's an impressive instinct Because if If I had heard That Dell had called Her horse The wrong name I would have simply Just thought she made A small mistake And like went on With my day And so She should She should really Think about Sam As a partner Going forward Because that's That's impressive Good stuff
[00:35:42] And then last one Even worse The Prohibition cronies Are right behind Cat and Nick On foot Right They're on They're like They're like Feet away from them Like And then They Then I gotta read this Then Cat and Nick Lose them Dude Completely This is the craziest Weight one of the season And then The Prohibition cronies Are now Catch up to them Sideways In a In a car Sideways Side In the woods Sideways But like If you watch this back
[00:36:12] They are At first You guys are talking About two different things Oh we're talking About different things Okay great Both are valid Alright you do yours Go ahead When they take off They catch them sideways But then they go back To get the car And then Meet them back I'm talking about The very end When they get in the pond Oh in the pond So you do yours And then I'll do mine Mine's before this Mine so They Cat is hiding And Nick's like Hey great to see you again And they are No more than Eight paces apart Yeah Cat and Nick
[00:36:41] And somehow they lose them Which doesn't make any sense Because unless those are like The complete opposite Of Usain Bolt Those guys should have been able To at least keep pace But then Cat and Nick Get to the farm And now suddenly These guys Have gotten a vehicle And found them on the farm Even though That they were only paces But they would have had to lose So much time and ground To go get the car We don't question the magic Of the Augie boys You know what I mean So didn't like that brand Didn't Didn't Didn't
[00:37:10] Didn't work for the old rye guy I understand Sam to your point Does Here That The wrong Horse name Goes running Is running Parallel To the cornfield And then somehow Is able to see her Lying down In the cornfield This guy's incredible Which The The ears To pick up on it But then the eyes In the ears of corn Is impressive
[00:37:40] Because We can see what he can see And we can't see her So Impressive on him To Impressive on him You know what I mean Corn Scary Corn scary Corn scary Corn Corn scary Corn A cornfield's a scary place To get To faint Okay I think we can all agree Sure Hard to find somebody In the cornfield Yeah My last one is I did get a kick
[00:38:09] Out of Elliot Talking to his dad In the 70s That's right Both these guys These two men Are in the 70s Talking about Fatherhood basically And crying And have you met A guy from the 70s Have you met a dad In the 70s Can you imagine Two guys in the 70s Crying about the power Of fatherhood Get out of here Shout out to guys From the 70s Love you guys That's right It doesn't hurt To cry every once In a while Honestly it was
[00:38:39] Good to see Yeah Yeah Yeah But Not realistic At all His dad In the 70s Would have been like What are you doing Stupid And then run off That's what would have Happened there I don't know What you're talking about Getting out of here Dano Yeah Elliot had his ringer Off guys He had his ringer Off You need to know That Elliot Had his ringer Off This is the dumbest Alright I just want to set The stage for you Elliot goes to Toronto A thriving metropolis
[00:39:08] To try to get Elliot to come back To his mom Elliot says no We find out Are you talking about Jacob Jacob says no Yeah Right We find out later Jacob did heed his Advice and take a flight Elliot then drives Or is on a bus Back home The whole time He's coming back From Toronto A long bus Or car ride Right Tens of hours Right Alice Is worried Because her mom Is gone And she's traveled In time Del has passed out
[00:39:38] She's calling And texting Like mad And Elliot Doesn't respond Because his ringer Is off Now All of us Are grown adults In 2026 None of us Have our ringer on Right Basically never Never Who has No one You mean to tell me That Elliot raw dog That bus ride back Do you mean to tell me He got on that bus ride Put his phone on silent Put it in his satchel And stared at the seat In front of him For 10 hours
[00:40:08] Your ringer Was it You still would have Checked your phone Right You would have Checked your phone At some point During the trip Back from Toronto Toronto You know It's such a woodland area They don't have Good reception And service Right He said my ringer Was off I went through The roof I couldn't believe That that was like It was like In Star Wars 9 You know Chewie was on Another transport Oh Well let's move Along everybody It just makes sense Let's move along Here's my Augie boys one
[00:40:37] At the end Nick and Cat Are running away From the Augie boys Let's say this is Nick and Cat They're running The Augie boys Are back here A pretty good distance away I would If we're using paces 20 to 30 paces Away And it's a foot race To the water Right They're running What if we're using clicks Right Three clicks Okay They're running Right Cat beats Nick To the pond Jumps in Nick Blue ribbon Nick is
[00:41:07] Red ribbon About to jump in The Augie boys Catch him So they're running They're here The Augie boys Are here You got me But then when Nick Stops He doesn't get Tackled Into the water He gets tackled From over here So at some point The Augie boys In running down The same path Went We've got a shortcut And they went Out and around And they blindsided Him From his side Guys Just be better
[00:41:37] Be better about It About just filming A chase What you don't know Is that They For some reason Always take The long way To the pond The Augie boys Knew the short way The Augie boys Knew the short way And the short way Was not a direct line It was No it's A roundabout It's a roundabout Yeah Roundabout That's all I got It's time for Sink or swim Reg eye Yeah Julian or Sam Need to be nefarious They've watched this So many times Before But like
[00:42:06] What Unless they literally Found out that They only had Five episodes left Like during the Filming of this episode What was the point Of introducing This Julian guy Or you know Or creating the Tension with Sam And Del If one of them Is not nefarious Like Brand to your point Like maybe Sam is able To find her In the cornfield Because he's all Knowing and Pulling the strings And what have you Do I have any faith This is actually Going to happen No Of course not But like It would be nice
[00:42:36] What was that voice Of course not I'm gazy gazy My sink or swim I will Simply ask you guys A follow up To last week's Sink or swim Which is A week Removed now Do you both Still think That we're heading Back to the 1800s Um I don't I think we got Sidetracked on If they could go But you did think That they would I think that They're going Okay I think at some point
[00:43:06] They're going to the 1800s Yes I do believe Both of you Last week said We are absolutely Going back to I still believe 100% we're going Okay I think the series finale Will take place Exclusively in the 1800s Wow And I will say this If that is the case I will use my skip I won't show up For the finale Of this show If it takes place Entirely in the 1800s Here's what I think I think because They knew it was the end I think there's Going to be something I think there's going
[00:43:39] Maybe that's her Going back to Just say goodbye Maybe that's Showing the folks From the 1800s In which case I would be wrong Because she wouldn't Travel back then But I think We're definitely Seeing the 1800s You're good And then I also Think That she's going To travel back there At least Or someone Is going to travel Back there Maybe not she Someone will be Traveling back To the 1800s Someone In the way home Season 4 That is what I think And that can be My secret swim too Very good Alright
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