Trancers (1984) ft. Alonso Duralde

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I'm Brann and I love sci-fi Christmas movies.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Dan and I despise sci-fi Christmas movies.

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Alonso and who knew sci-fi Christmas movies and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast.

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Deck The Hallmark it's his podcast.

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Our friend's host is podcast.

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We hope you like this jolly podcast.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Well hello we are here.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Boy oh boy.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cozy intimate set today.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Monday.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We're still here.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: What up Brian?

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: What up Brian?

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Live from Brian's house.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody, I'm Brian.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This is my crib.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come on in.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I got the screen screen.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I got the screen screen.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I got the screens where the magic happens.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty awesome.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Nowhere else would we rather be.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: In all honesty if it's got climate control at this point I'm your best friend.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Who I am.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah we're here.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The movie theater is open.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: The movie theater is open.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Saw a wild robot with the kids last week, cried through half of it and it was great.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Saw Transformers 1.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Transformers 1 was a great time at the movie theater.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Out of kid movies now.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You will go back and see Despicable Me 4.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll take him to see Speak No Evil.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a kid in that movie.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a kid in that movie.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Kid can't talk but there's a kid in the movie.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Joker Folly Adil with Lady Gaga.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched your out of theater reaction to that movie.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw the picture of your out of theater reaction.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Told you we'd be laughing now.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Christie's picture was the best.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That was the best part of that whole thing.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We had an interesting conversation afterwards and we actually sort of like we came up

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: with what the idea of the what the ideas behind the movie are and ultimately I'm

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: like everything is interesting about this movie except the movie.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a shame.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well I'm looking forward to seeing it at some point.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It was the best I got.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Walking Phoenix is like is it too late to back out?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it too late?

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We've already done the whole thing.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we've already filmed it but is it too late?

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Too soon.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still mad about him leaving Todd Haynes high and dry.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Which movie was that?

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Walking.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no I heard the story.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: This hasn't been filmed yet.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll never now like the whole production fell apart.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that he that's not his first time doing that.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: No he did that on signs.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: No not signs.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Split.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Split.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to be in split and two weeks before principle he backed out and

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Jane McAvoy was like I'll do it.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're better with split.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it all worked out but yeah I'm sad we're being deprived of the

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Todd Haynes movie.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah anytime we're deprived of the Todd Haynes movie bad.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta be honest I think James McAvoy did an amazing job in split.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Hear what I'm saying not what I'm not saying but walking.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: A world without split would not be the end of the world.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but walking Phoenix is the better actor.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I died like in my personal opinion I think I would have been I'd be

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: fascinated to see what split looked like with walking Phoenix.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know look it's always apples and oranges I think that different they're

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: both very talented they have different skill sets and gifts you know.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They just splits just the letterman interview just thought a loop.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a here's a walking do this thing.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Well hey listening to a walking sing in Joker Folia do made me feel

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: better than I never saw that fake documentary where he pretended to be

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: a rapper.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Really well I mean I listened to all of Les Mis and I made it so.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: After Anne Hathaway died there's just you know and you Jackman I guess.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's Jackman.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah that's right.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a huge Jackman.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey Brandon there's no place I'd rather be than right here in Brian's house

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: with power going to talk about a 1984 science fiction Christmas movie with

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you and my buddy Alonzo.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we're talking transters today.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Transers.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The day has come.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Why did this movie not make it into.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What's up.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: God Existed and thankfully you know a thing that I have that has been sort of

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: a recurring thing is like a little Christmas came back in 2010.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and I think you will both agree with me that the world of Christmas

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: media has really exploded since then.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So many podcasts and so many you know online debates about Die Hard or

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever but like I'm seeing a lot more lists now of people who are

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: are tossing out these very specific genre titles,

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: whether it's film noir or science fiction or horror

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: that I didn't know about.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I thought I had done a pretty thorough coverage

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: of the waterfront,

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm encountering new things right and left.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so embarrassing.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hate it for you.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: How can you show your face out there?

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It is an endless task to be the Christmas movie guy.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm gearing up to watch what is going

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to be probably a thoroughly bloody and disgusting horror

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: movie called Terrifier 3, just because it happens at Christmas.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the best Terrifier though.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And you said that. Yeah, I think so.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the Terrifier.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The third one is where they really come from.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the new one.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's coming out in theaters soon.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yay.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Day Terrifier.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to it, shall we?

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Transurs originally premiered in the UK

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: on November 7th, 1984,

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and then finally made its way across the pond

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: on May 22nd, 1985 in the United States

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and went a little something like this.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So this hour and 16 minute movie doesn't actually

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: start for two minutes and 30 seconds.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So do the math.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Trailer's up front.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We see Jack Death.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Dirt?

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Death?

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Credence up front, excuse me.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He is on.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He is on the lookout for transurs.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They are humans that are under the trance of Martin Whistler.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're basically zombies.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He walks into a diner.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He immediately figures out, hey, we

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: got some transurs among us.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Kills one of them.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you kill a transfer, they kind of just like,

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, spontaneously combust,

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: likely just disappear.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They read infrared into out there.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And so when the higher up at the police force

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: tells him that he has to stop going rogue and going

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: after transurs, he throws the badge in his face.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm out of here.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Not on my watch.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack has devoted his life to tracking down transurs

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: since his wife was killed by a transfer.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll do it.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack was under the impression that Martin Whistler was

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: dead.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But his consciousness is actually back in 1985.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So Springsteen.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Waper for Nirvana.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The transurs and Whistler.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So once Jack discovers that Whistler is still alive

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and just is in 1985, he destroys.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: In 19, 1985.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's pulling for soup, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We're at Brian's house.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He destroys.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of fun here.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We're having fun.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He destroys Whistler's body that is in whatever year it is.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Nineteen years.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, future.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means that he's going to be stuck in 1985.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing left to do is to go back to 1985

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and get rid of him for good.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He's external NTV.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So this allows Jack to go back to 1985 himself

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and enter the body of one of his ancestors,

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a journalist named Phil Death,

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Defton, Deethon.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Phil.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Phil the future.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Phil the past.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He comes to and he meets Lena, a woman who Phil had spent

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the evening with the night prior.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Lena works as a photographer at Santa's workshop

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: at the mall.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the Christmas.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: When we when he walks into the mall,

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: he catches eyes with Santa.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And it becomes clear that Santa is a transfer.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Jack, a.k.a.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's cancer if you will.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Now Dasher, now transfer.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So Jack, a.k.a.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Phil gets into a fight with Santa.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And after taking care of business there,

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: he opens up to Lena about what is up, who he really is.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And she is like all of this tracks.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense to me.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to help.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So he comes face to face with Whistler

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and Whistler forces the transfers to shoot him.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Luckily before he went back to 19,

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: 19, the long second, he was given a watch

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: which allows him to have the long second,

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: which temporarily slows time down, stretching one second

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: to be 10 seconds.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, or in this case, 45 to 60.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a one time use situation, though.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But I guess it was a good time to use it.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great time to use it.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good time anytime.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Just do it.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Just just transit.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you just got to do the long second you got.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes you just got to have fun,

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: which is exactly what they do.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They go to a punk rock Christmas party.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Draco Bowles.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that leads to playing with some toys

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and that leads to play with toys.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And that leads to them making outs.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And before anything further happens,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: he is pulled back into his own body and the future.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, man, that's messed up.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: My job, my job's not done there.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So they send him back and it's post extracurricular

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: with Lena.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't get to enjoy that.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep it a PG-13.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's right.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, Phil, you've done it again.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You dirty dog.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So during the basically they're still continuing.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to find Whistler, all that good stuff.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They end up finally finding Whistler.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And in the process, one of the vials in Jack's gun breaks.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So you need two so that they both...

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's to make a thing go right.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an antidote.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The only way they both get back is with the two vials.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Jack is forced to make a decision here.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Am I going to kill the innocent person

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that is in the, he's in the body of this person

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: which you know is now possessed by Whistler

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: or use the vial to send Whistler back.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: To stay in trial.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly right.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's like, what am I going to do?

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Luckily for him, he's in love.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So it makes the decision honestly pretty easy.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty straightforward.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He sends Whistler back to the future.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to stay with Lena in 1985.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're happy.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They're happy together.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then this little girl stares at the camera

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm still a little unsure about what was going on there.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And that my friends was, Trancers.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We did it.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're confused about that,

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you're watching.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I...

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just follow that.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But also real quick, they're not sending Whistler back

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: to the future.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They're sending him into like nowhere

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: because he killed the body of Whistler.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he killed the body.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: In the future.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's just sending him out to the board.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The girl is embodied by Art DeFloor's character.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the detective or whatever.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The detective who came back to get him the first time.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you got it.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a weird...

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to stare at the camera.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a...

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: End of the movie.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take a quick break.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to come back.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to break this movie down

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: with four segments here on.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a hallmark.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We're back.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Bram, before you get to the hot take,

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: which is the next segment.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It is.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I got to...

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you do any research on this movie?

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do any research.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: How many sequels to transors are there?

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there can't be any, right?

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: How many take a guess?

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go four.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Alonzo, do you have a guess or do you know?

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I know.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: We're looking for six.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Six.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Six sequels, seven total.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And five of them have the same lead.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Two transvers.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think three or four of them have a Helen Hunt.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But they made a reboot or a seeked transors.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There's like transors one, two, three, four, five.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a movie called

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Transors Colon with like a different subtitle.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Transors Six was in 2002.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So Alonzo, were you just not aware

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: of the transors franchise?

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you, I'm not like...

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They are the production of a company

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: called Full Moon Productions.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: This is directed by Charles Bant

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: who is kind of legendary in the world

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: of sort of low budget genre films.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I suspect that most of the transfer movies,

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I had a vague, like I said,

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I had a vague awareness they existed.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure at least some of them probably went direct

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to VHS or something.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: These are the kind of movies

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: that our friend Joe Bob Briggs would review.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember Joe Bob from the...

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Classic Joe Bob, yes.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The British werewolf.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: From one of the worst movies of all time.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the kind of movie he would review

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: in his column back in the 80s.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I see.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I see.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to the hot tag.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna share our thoughts on this movie.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna start with you Alonzo.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Now that you've been introduced to transfers,

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: are you happy that you have been?

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of enjoyed it.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's because I was like 18 in 19, 19, 1985.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But I have an affection for these like...

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a couple of years after The Terminator.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And The Terminator really kind of showed

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that even with a low budget,

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: you could really create something special.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Cameron, he wasn't too bad.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that kid, that piranha two guys going places.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so like I think that really kind of

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: inspired other low budget producers

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to do something similar.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, Charles Band is no James Cameron.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We can be very clear about that.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But every so often there were so many

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of like lower budgeted sci-fi and horror movies.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of gremlins knockoffs.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Your Gouli's and your, you know...

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Goblins.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Hobgoblins and whatever.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but every so often you'd get a little gem.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a movie called The Hidden

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: with Kyle McLaughlin, you know,

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that was about aliens and cops and whatever.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was actually pretty good.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And this one is I think a fun low budget sci-fi movie

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that also happens to be a Christmas movie.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Tomerson commits to the bit.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The movie, boy does he.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The movie totally wears its kind of noir influences

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: on its sleeve.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They get out of the future as fast as they can

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's expensive.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they had to create two whole cars,

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, for the future.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, you know, you've got you've got

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: baby Helen Hunt on her way up in the world.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And and it, you know, it moves, you know,

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: there's not a there's no fat on this movie

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: is 74ish minutes or whatever.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I had a good time.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: If you take the credits out,

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: this thing's nearing 70.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. It really is.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a wild ride.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed the first half of the movie a lot.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I was kind of like, all right,

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen enough here.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is a an enjoyable ride.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen worse movies over the past week.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, less enjoyable at the very least.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No, worse movies.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, worse. Yes.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It is I you mentioned the low budget of it all.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that it actually like there were some things

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that I was like, oh, that was really cool.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: How they how they did that?

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't it looks goofy,

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: but like in a an endearing, fun way.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And so overall, the movie, I think is OK.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's OK. It's it's quite the ride.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's quite the ride.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was dreading this for the myriad reasons,

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: most of which had to do with the internet

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and watching it on my cell phone,

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: which I have horror.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't stand.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to watch it on a screen, an actual screen.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's because I'm old and that's fine.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of borderline it really dug it.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I the movie making magic used in this movie is a ton of fun.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: The the trope is one that is well worn.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But in 1984 or 1985, I'm not sure how well worn it was.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But like choosing back to the future hadn't come out.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So this movie like has a lot of that.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I got some inception vibes.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's some notes where like these people are sleeping in the future

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and their consciousness is where else that's a fun gambit.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And to Alonso's point, it's I mean, the movie 70 minutes.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a very special episode of Touch By An Angel.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a long movie, right?

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like and so it's it is lean.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's mean. It also is one like I'm pretty sure Alonso can correct me

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: if I'm wrong here.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The PG-13 rating was brand new in 1984.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was introduced that summer.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They're experimenting on what that looks like.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And then also your B movie is always helped by actors

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: who are either too young to know better and they're great

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: or they are completely committed and you have that.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Helen Hunt is a is great and nobody knows she's great yet.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that helps.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And then is it Tim Tomerson?

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that his name? Yeah.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Tim Thompson, like a name we make up here.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That he's so committed to being a Kurt Russell knockoff.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He is bargain bargain brand Kurt Russell, but very similar.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a good bargain brand and he is very like he's here.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's doing his best blue steel art.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: LaFleur always great.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: There's some other fun young actors that end up being sitcoms

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that I like in the 90s.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And so like it's a fun time.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very short.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't like sci-fi or low budget, stay away.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: If you like those two things, I think you'll I think you'll have a fun time here.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Christmas or no, I think the Christmas is ancillary.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Christmas didn't matter really.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's there's a cool fight with Santa.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but it just takes place at Christmas time.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I think that I would put this in the category of like

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Christmas in LA movies, which is a very specific thing

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: because like it is so aggressively non-wintry here in December.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, there is something about the way that it

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the city is decorated like Shane Black leans into this a lot,

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: especially in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you see it in other films and so I have an affection for that.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't live in LA yet in the 80s, but but seeing these kinds of movies

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: where everybody's really putting up the stuff, even though we're in the tropics.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I always get a kick out of it.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to shout out.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Telma Hopkins who plays an engineer.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. And she's Aunt Rachel and family matters.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. And she's way younger here.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And it took me a second to be like, where have I seen her before?

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I realized what it was.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, Telma Hopkins also great in the movie.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And the Christmas of it all.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a version of Jingle Bells in this movie that I never I don't want to hear

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: the guy know I'm happy experience that I guess.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But the Santa going transfer is like if we can start the fields,

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that's time for the fields.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like the Santa going transfer

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and then them fighting in front of children

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and killing Santa in front of children.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Children is like one of my favorite moments of the year.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It's and it's not played for laughs, gang.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's straight up gritty sci-fi.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He is murdering Santa Claus in front of a line of children.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's great. It's a riot. I loved it.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That is what's great about low budget movies

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: is that they can be disreputable in a way that like mainstream movies do not.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's actually what we're like, OK, we're doing this.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not? Weirdly, my first field was Telma Hopkins.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I wrote her down, but I'm coming at her from the opposite direction

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: because transfers is happening before family matters.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And before you remember show called Give Me a Break.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that I don't know with that with Nell Carter.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, others.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you mean yes, of course.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, sure.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But this movie is after her participation in Tony Orlando and Donne

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: who had a lot of hits. OK, don't give me that face.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, an amazing, an amazing law firm.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: They never take that face off your head.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Orlando and Donne had huge hits in the 1970s,

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: including Ty Yellow Ribbon and Knock Three Times.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: They were a big band twice on the pipe, twice on the pipe.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. And then they had a very popular variety show called

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Orlando and Donne.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And in the same way that on the setting,

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: sure, sorry, go ahead.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a thank you.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you mean to meet me in the hallway?

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You got it.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: In the same way that Sonny and Cher

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: when they had a variety show

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and when they were married and then even later when they were divorced

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and the whole it would always open with like a song

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and then there would be like a comic monologue

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: where she would just bust his chops

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: on Tony Orlando and Donne.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They would come out and sing and then

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Tomahawkens and the other member of Donne

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: would bust Tony Orlando's chops.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So she has great comic skills

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and which she later got to to to to work in sitcoms.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun to see her in a movie like this, where it's like, OK,

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: you're just you're getting your sag minimum

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: to keep your insurance or whatever.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'll take it. I love Tomahawkens.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I love seeing Art Lafleur and Seymour, who plays the other

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: the woman on the council is like

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: has one of the so much stuff.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So like one of the characters is like goes back to the 50s or something.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She was in, you know, how to succeed in business without really trying.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So I love when a low budget movie

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: still finds space for folks that you could probably

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: whose quote has gone down, but they're still working

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and they still want to do stuff and then they can they show up

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and they commit to the bit.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The punk scene is hilarious

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's such a staple of 80s cinema.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 80s movies that was like, oh, we're going to go to the punk club now.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's like no punk club ever actually looked like

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: the one in this movie like Christmas lights were not usually a feature to be found.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But they've left.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They've why does I have it because he went to actual ones in the 80s.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why he's hard of hearing now.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing with with Art Lafleur's hardbidden cop,

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: McNulty, then like trancing or whatever time traveling into the body

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: of an eight year old girl, that has to be the tough talking noir.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: The eight year old girl having to be Art Lafleur was really fun.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was that was great.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll tell you, this is a subtle nod of the Christmas thing.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I love the thing with the three unhoused dudes standing around

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: the barrel who become the Magi who point the way

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to Tom or to Helen Hunt to find the guy they're looking for.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I, you know, I think I was I was constantly delighted

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: with ideas or performances or something in this movie.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: When when the floor played Babe Ruth, yes, the sandlock.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. And doesn't look anything like Babe Ruth,

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but my favorite Babe Ruth ever.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He is. Yes.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he also William Hertz, dad and broadcast news?

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he might be.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Now that you say that you're a big broadcast news.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I sure am.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I I loved when Jack becomes Phil for the first time

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and he goes into the closet.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He finds, you know, the jacket that he would wear.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to go. Of course ties it up.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then before leaving, slicks his hair back and just goes dry hairs.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Squids.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was excellent.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And that just has been like an ad campaign for vitalis.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Dry hair. It really was.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say a quick break.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back with the way one the what the hallmark here on.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Take the hallmark.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back everybody.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you're doing well.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We are.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time to get to the wait.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What's it's where we talk about what in

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: the transfers made us go wait?

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: What Alonzo?

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think we have to start with the usual time travel

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: caveats apply because you could go down a really deep hole of

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: like, well, how does Whistler know he's not going to erase

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: his own existence if he goes to the past and starts killing

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: people and you know, but we'll just sort of take those as read.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, so there's a thing that that movies do.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And and you probably you mostly don't notice it because when

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: you when it's done well, you're not supposed to notice it.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: When people in a movie are in traffic and driving,

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: they are actually this is it.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They're they're in a car.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They're being towed by a truck on a platform.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And and they're supposed to be not too much higher than

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: the rest of traffic.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't look like they're being towed on a

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: platform by a truck.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie they are they're so high above traffic

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: they might as well be in shitty, shitty bang bang like flying

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: over the streets and Tim Thomas and from the future

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: has no idea how to drive apparently, even though he has a car

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: in the future is just like turning the wheel all the way

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: to one way and then the other way and back and forth.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So like a kid at at a bumper car.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Tim Thomas is on a straight road in Los Angeles

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_02]: turning the steering wheel at 45 degrees, 90 degrees

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's the best like he and he thinks he's crushing it

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like you've got to go back and watch these things.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's talking to Helen Hunt and he's like this.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: They're straight away and he's like this, this, this.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fantastic.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, how would they know that I'm driving?

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if I don't do this, it's true.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be they won't know.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, this is called indicating.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to say he is leaving clues behind him

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: like breadcrumbs, which means he's not a very good cop

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: in the future.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He's bad.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Helen Hunt is wearing a jean jacket with a rebel flag on the back,

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: which got me in the early 80s thought that was sure.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So many so many questions about the Confederate flag

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_02]: on the back of Helen Hunt's jacket.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't get over that scene.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I paused it.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's who did that.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would that happen?

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, you have to realize like this is this is the era

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: after the Dukes of Hazard who had that on the roof of their car

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: for however many seasons.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It was not it was not uncommon to stop in a gas station

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: in the South and find all kinds of stuff that would have like

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the rebel flag and it would say something like, you know,

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: ass kicking Southern Rock or whatever.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, listen, it wasn't a political statement.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just this thing.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And and and, you know, obviously you look at it now.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, it was a thing.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We still live in that thing.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But this movie is in Los Angeles.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think it was a thing in Los Angeles.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not necessarily no.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think I think that it symbolically,

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: it hadn't become the, you know, if you're part of the expression

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: red flag that it is now, you know, and so it.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for dumb white people exactly as Dave puts it,

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: who have no concept of history.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's always been a red flag historically

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: for people that it affected.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, exactly.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, a lot of people were just oblivious.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Did I miss something?

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Who scorches the tanning booth guy?

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the answer to that question.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He traps Tim Tomerson in the booth.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Helen Hunt comes running in.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And he sees the scorched outline and then I'm like,

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: did I miss a kill here?

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We were going to figure out

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like that was going to be part of a murder mystery thing.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And turns out no, he's just dead.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And it is made to look like.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that happens sometimes, though.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to know that sometimes you just infrared out of here.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, what are you going to do?

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that OK.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's that wasn't just me then.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wrote down why doesn't he inject whistle

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: during the long second, but then they explain that

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: because she asked him, why didn't you inject

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of cover their tracks there?

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and he's like, I have to save you.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, OK, I guess there are a thing now.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the OK, these time travel stories,

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: particularly starting with the Terminator,

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: which I think it really sets the tone

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: for a lot of the decade there.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The notion is that the person that the future,

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: the person in the past, the future person has to rescue

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: is going to give birth or parent a child

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: who is then later in the future going to be over a block.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy they are going to find the old baseball player, Ashby.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ashby. Yes.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Half Ashby kind of seems like he's passed that part of his life.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's unless he's Norman Mailer, it's hard to imagine

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that he's suddenly going to he's going to clean up his act.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to stop drinking and he's going to get married

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and he's going to father a child.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, dude, you played Pro Paul 20 years earlier,

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: like the clock is ticking.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I guess we're going to be fair.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Tim Tomerson is now madly in love with Helen Hunt

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and they have to be 20 years apart in age.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Minimum like it's a little creepy.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he's actually like negative 200 years.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's right.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one that's being a creep.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's the cougar here.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I got.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: When he's still in the future,

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: he's about to go swimming, you know, in the ocean.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And what's his name is walking behind him

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's just walking straight into the water.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then at some point he's shocked that his pants are wet.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks down and he's like, oh, what?

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you not see the ocean?

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Did it snuck up on him?

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it does feel like coming into your shoes.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he is like six steps in by the time he looks down

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and goes, oh, man, I don't know what happened to him there.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But he was surprised.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Dan, this is for you.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine trying to sleep

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: with those neon lights on the wall? Oh my God.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Face sleeping in crazy humidity with all the windows open

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: to no power. And I would take that any day.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, unbelievable.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I just got a kick out of the fact that

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: when when Jack goes back to the future

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: as he's making out with Lena, that's right.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That what happens next is Phil

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: comes back into his body.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: In the middle of what's about to be

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: a session of of fun for these two adults.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And he just rolls with it.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He says, well, I guess this is happening again.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he is once again out of his body.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: What a night for Phil.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What a night for Phil.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He I just wish that, you know, we could have been privy to the moment

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: where he came back into his body was like, oh, OK.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I guess it's happening.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All highlights.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, what a what a thing that happened to him.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they don't really talk about that.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But Phil came back right in the right in the middle of a moment.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And so the shot to Phil shot to Phil.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Dana, yeah, several of the big ones were were taken along the way.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But I got a few more.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_02]: They they put in place this long second where he hits a button on his watch

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and one second becomes 10 seconds.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And the first time he uses it twice.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. The first time he uses it in this movie, it's like maybe 90 seconds.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a long time.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, it does go on.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It is in slow motion, but this guy a gun is shot and they do their version

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: of bullet time, which is wonderful.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a picture of a bullet slowly.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone probably has on a string of tape and it's fantastic.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. It's unbelievable.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: During the time that bullet is in the air and during that one second,

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: he goes over lifts Helen Hunt off the ground, runs away from the entire

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: all of the premises, carrying a full grown body, puts her in the car,

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: gets in the car and then the time starts back again.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's it is it's for my money, maybe the best scene of this movie

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: because one second is 10 seconds, but the 10 seconds is times 10 of those.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: 100 seconds.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so many seconds more than 10.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: At one point he's got shaving cream all over his face and she's like,

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: are you ready to go?

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, ah, and he he wipes the shaving cream off his face

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and he is perfectly clean shaven.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the next scene he has a stubble.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like you can't it's like a reverse Santa Claus.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't wipe the shaving creams there to shave

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: not because you've already shaved and he wipes it off

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's just clean shaving ready to go.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like that's not how that works at all.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: What if it's what if it's there?

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And he wiped off with a towel, which is crazy.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: In the middle of the Santa fight scene, the music takes a turn.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It starts off like with this classic,

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like almost Blade Runner soundtrack in the middle.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: For my money, it was a he's a maniac cover.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like in the middle, all of a sudden,

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought somebody was going to say just a steel town girl on a Saturday night.

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like legitimately the music goes sideways on you into a dance number

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle of the Santa fight.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like when Queen is playing in Shaun of the Dead.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it. I loved it.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't reference it, but I loved it.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was great.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a very synthy decade, Daniel.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I was really super synthy decade.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then last but not least,

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to know the strategy of the transfers

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_02]: because some transfers, when they see Jack death,

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: they just flip immediately.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And other transfers play like a long con.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just I don't know.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no through line of when if you're

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: when if you're a transfer, you decide it's go time

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: because I thought it was like once you're caught,

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to reveal yourself and then go try to kill him

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: because Santa, it makes no like if you can hold on

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and not actually turn transfer and deceive him a little bit.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Santa picks the most inopportune time to go.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like Santa makes eye contact with Phil, and then he's suddenly

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: but the tanning guy and the diner lady.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But the tanning guy doesn't happen like that.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just yeah.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So I actually even the diner lady does it.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: She likes to be at first and the cops certainly later are like very much.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think there's some inconsistency there

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and it would love a little backstory.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't make the movie any longer, but we'd love a little back.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: If I get to 80 minutes, I'm going to look like a crazy.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's time for what the Hallmark story.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What could have been maybe having

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to some clarity in questions that we still have a lot of.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I suspect any questions would have been thoroughly covered

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: in parts two three seven.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The two things that came to mind is first of all,

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: is Phil now stuck in limbo forever?

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's mine because it feels sounds like a terrible

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: human being he does from what we've heard about Phil.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Having said that, justice for Phil, justice for Phil.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It does seem though like Phil's last two moments on earth

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_01]: involvement and entanglement.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we have to fill out there somewhere.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The other one, of course, being if they can send him a watch

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: from the future, why can't they send him more antidote?

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the antidote things a little bit of a hang up.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you got it.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You got it.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to create that with choice.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So one way or another.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But they've established that like they can shoot things back

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to him via whatever technology exists.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He gets the magic box that has a second watch in it

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and they send them the gun, they send them all the stuff

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: like sent him more antidote and we're done here.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, then we would have had two through seven,

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I suppose you can maybe give, I don't know,

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: bring Helen Hunt to the future.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And we got to find out what happens in transfers too.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We do.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious enough to watch it.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the only other question that I have

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: is the long seconds.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, 10 seconds.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What what would it take to make that?

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously they did make it longer.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It is longer than 10 seconds.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But why did they land on 10 seconds?

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: How did that all come to be?

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Could they did they ever get to the point

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: where the long second is 20 seconds?

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in the sequels maybe you will find out for each

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: sequel, it's 10 more seconds.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 2002 and they get a full minute.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe a minute and 10.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which in the movie probably plays out as a good 40, you know,

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: minutes to have the movie.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, long second.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do a long.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Mine was still wonderful as well.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So we did it.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We have one more Monday left.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole season starts and we're ending it with a scary.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to the 2015 classic Krampus.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're going to be talking about next week.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll be together the following week

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and for the marathon.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wait.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Get ready everybody.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Until then, maybe the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.

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