Steve Urkel, after an unfortunate accident where he ridicules the mall Santa, creates an invention hoping to fix the Holiday spirit with the help of real Santa.
Watch on Philo! - Philo.tv/DTH
Watch the show on Youtube - www.deckthehallmark.com/youtube
Interested in advertising on the show? Email bran@deckthehallmark.com
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
[00:00:01] Hi, I'm Bran and I love
[00:00:06] Urkel Christmas movies. I'm Dan it pains me to say it, but I despise Urkel Christmas movies
[00:00:12] I'm Alonzo and did I do this?
[00:00:37] Hello everybody welcome very rarely am I upset that Alonzo gets to go last in in the intro
[00:00:44] But I did I do that was there and he it was perfect because he doesn't know anything about family matters
[00:00:49] If I was going last I would have said I'm Dan and look what you did
[00:00:53] Which is the the line that Urkel uses?
[00:00:57] After everything falls apart and it's his fault and uncle Carl comes in the room Carl Winslow
[00:01:02] And he looks at him and he goes look what you did acting like it's somebody else's fault
[00:01:05] That's what I would have said, I just want that on the record, but there's nothing I could have done
[00:01:09] We are talking Urkel saves Christmas. Thank goodness. It's about time
[00:01:13] Santa save Santa you're right. Sorry Ernest saves Christmas. Yes. Yes, please gosh. I love it. I say it's Chris. You know what I mean burn
[00:01:22] You like that movie right Alonzo I do like
[00:01:26] Yeah, I grew up on the earnest movies earnest goes to camp earnest goes to jail earnest scared stupid
[00:01:31] Wasn't allowed to watch that one because of Halloween
[00:01:38] Earnest goes earnest goes to camp. Yeah a classic and I used to quote that as a kid and people would look at me
[00:01:46] Sad sad day at Camp Kikiki
[00:01:50] Yeah, I was that kid get over it get over it everybody if something went wrong
[00:01:54] And we didn't get recessed cuz it was raining. It's a sad sad day at Camp Kikiki
[00:01:59] You would say as a kid I would say this is a kid well
[00:02:03] I mean, yeah, maybe like not like eight okay a little bit old maybe ten. Yeah, it's a sad sad day
[00:02:09] For folks on the filo are you guys noticing the prop that I brought for today? Oh, yeah
[00:02:16] That what is that
[00:02:19] Oh
[00:02:22] Box of
[00:02:25] Hercules cereal it's actually not even a real retail box. It's like a promo box for grocers, but it's just a
[00:02:32] Weird thing we have in our collection of vintage cereal boxes
[00:02:36] I thought you were pointing to the prop that is a groundbreaking new book out
[00:02:42] Hollywood pride written by Alonzo Duralde
[00:02:44] No
[00:02:46] You've never seen out tomorrow here, but tomorrow tomorrow
[00:02:51] Happy birthday to my brother today's his birthday. I'm sure he's a regular
[00:02:57] You've never said any family matters
[00:02:59] Not a second. I have never seen a moment of this show
[00:03:03] I of course know the basics of Urkel because I was alive
[00:03:08] But like I was not a child in the 90s
[00:03:12] That one the show yeah, yeah, so never saw it
[00:03:15] I I know I know that it existed
[00:03:19] It was the thing but this was my first exposure to like a full frontal oracle full front. Okay?
[00:03:25] Well, we didn't need to go say this isn't the proper way to get introduced
[00:03:30] Urkel frontal or otherwise
[00:03:32] You you like regular viewer of family matters. Okay. Yeah, exactly
[00:03:37] It is still like a little bit before my time, but it was it was still yeah, it was still house still very
[00:03:44] Prevalence in the house and so I said I am sure I've seen every I will say this
[00:03:48] Binging family matters would not be something unlike boy meets world
[00:03:50] I think family matters gets caught in quite a cycle of the same show over and over like
[00:03:56] Laura and Steve and new invention an accident and learn a lesson
[00:04:01] And I like I think it would be repetitive, but it when I was a kid
[00:04:05] It was the stuff
[00:04:07] Just seeing if we played the music. Could you do the oracle right now to dance? No, I can do you do
[00:04:12] It's pretty much just like an over
[00:04:20] Do you know about
[00:04:22] Stefan Stefan or Kel I know about Stefan or Kel I know about oracle bots, you know again
[00:04:28] I just because they're just they were in the culture
[00:04:31] But like, you know my only point of reference for those other two actors is a Christmas in Carolina and
[00:04:38] and for the the mom my only point of reference is that movie with
[00:04:43] Jonathan Bennett and and
[00:04:45] Mrs. Pena Vega. Yeah. Yeah
[00:04:48] Yeah, I John Murray Peyton Kelly Sheneen Williams Darius McQuarrie. Thank you
[00:04:54] You turn your gun and you get a pair of shoes and I think you're gonna you get a pair of shoes
[00:04:58] That's important. Everybody should do that when Oracle secretly good at basketball is like one of my all-time favorite episodes
[00:05:03] I was he's a nerd he can't be good and he just he just goes to work on yes
[00:05:07] Grandma ma now this movie I found out and trying to just find the date in which it was originally
[00:05:14] dropped that this movie was first announced in 2020 and
[00:05:20] Had a very similar story to Batgirl where it was
[00:05:25] Made and then the new crew came in to warrant Warner and
[00:05:29] Pulled the plug on it and it just sat there for a while and for some reason they decided
[00:05:34] Thank God last year that we're gonna put it out
[00:05:38] But not on max apparently according to a to rental right straight to rental apparently this holiday season
[00:05:45] It will be available on max, but I don't know if that's confirmed or not
[00:05:47] It's just what it says on so Warner pulls the Urkel Christmas cartoon and Batgirl
[00:05:53] Yeah, but we get Urkel back, but not that girl
[00:05:57] So I get it gives a little bit of hope that maybe one day we will see Batgirl
[00:06:03] Ika or coyote versus Acme perhaps. Oh, dude
[00:06:06] I can't believe they showed that movie because they are not they announced that they were releasing Urkel
[00:06:12] I believe two weeks before it actually and so they were like we're doing it
[00:06:16] It's happening in two weeks, so I don't know what the decision was that made them finally go
[00:06:21] Okay, let's give the people Urkel
[00:06:23] I don't know what's happening over there because remember we watched merry little Batman on
[00:06:28] Amazon on a prime video and it's like if Warner Brothers isn't interested in a
[00:06:34] Batman anything like what are we even doing? What are we even doing is correct?
[00:06:38] What the bleeps going on at Warner was what we really need to how did they like also it just the fact that
[00:06:45] What a weird story Urkel
[00:06:48] Christmas special movie gets greenlit it gets made and it gets shelved and then two years later
[00:06:54] They go all right the people have waited long. We get through all the hard part
[00:06:59] Show this there's that the Scoob sequel which is apparently also a Christmas movie is got finished
[00:07:06] Oh, wow, it's still not anywhere. Do you know about coyote verse Acme? No?
[00:07:10] I don't know it is a hybrid animated live-action movie were like space-jam starring the Looney Tunes
[00:07:15] Wile E. Coyote sues Acme for all of their products will forte
[00:07:22] John see it looks like it can't help but be a blast and I can't believe but I just like I don't understand
[00:07:28] So that's been made. Yeah. Oh, yeah made finished and then shelved and apparently possibly
[00:07:35] Erased for a tax write-off who knows that oh, so that's that's the why the why is tax write-offs about basically
[00:07:41] What oh, I know shocker unbelievable
[00:07:46] Over art we can't trust Warner Brothers
[00:07:49] To do the right thing. I don't understand. This is great. That's crazy
[00:07:52] That's insane like at least do this got out of the vault as a miracle
[00:07:56] I guess but that's like at least do this this where it's like
[00:07:59] Okay
[00:08:00] We'll just like do you can have it and we'll make money if somebody really wants to see ya and they
[00:08:06] Make their money back on coyote verse Acme. I bet they would
[00:08:10] Well, it's this whole complicated thing where they were like, oh well
[00:08:13] We'll make it available to some other streamer and so like Netflix and peacock are all like oh, well, we're interested
[00:08:19] But then they made the the deal was gonna be so expensive and complicated that nobody stepped up and so I was like
[00:08:24] Oh, well, we tried. I mean, it's all very hanky. That's cool
[00:08:28] Crazy got a hercules save so this we got a hercules saves Christmas Santa
[00:08:32] Sorry, and we've waited long enough
[00:08:34] It originally came out into the world on November 21st
[00:08:37] 2023 and it went a little something like this the movie kicks off with not the family matters theme song
[00:08:44] close
[00:08:46] Close but not just like a one-off. Yeah, it's not though bigger love but I think it starts with
[00:08:57] And you're like what's happening I feel like it's like they couldn't use it or they get to couldn't quite yes
[00:09:03] Urkel wakes up and he is pumped that it is finally December. He loves the holiday season not just cuz Christmas
[00:09:10] No, he loves all the hall. He have a song about he does have a song about it
[00:09:14] He's excited to try out his new invention the December riser
[00:09:17] Which is a you press the button and it decorates your his room
[00:09:22] But not the rest of the house for some reason it's just but it doesn't matter. Yeah, there's a drip
[00:09:26] And so he comes outside. He is so excited. It's so Christmassy. It's so December
[00:09:31] He can't contain himself. He burst into a song while walking down the street and everybody is fed up
[00:09:37] With Urkel because it's still so early in the morning. We don't got time for this
[00:09:43] Urkel
[00:09:44] He gets to the mall ASAP to help get the mall ready for the department store Santa also known as DSS
[00:09:52] and
[00:09:53] He loves it
[00:09:55] He waxes poetic about how important the DSS is are to making Christmas happen and he tells this DSS that he wants
[00:10:04] some donkey cheese
[00:10:09] The funniest thing I had to be honest a thing that I forgot about Urkel was that he's obsessed with cheese
[00:10:14] How'd you forget? I know well, I remembered very quickly. He loves cheese more than December
[00:10:20] He didn't sing a single song about he has a cheese calendar. I don't know if you know
[00:10:23] Sure does so anyway he
[00:10:28] Tells Santa with that he wants to donkey cheese takes the picture
[00:10:31] He posted on social media and Steve gets very excited in the midst of posting this that his favorite tech billionaire is going live
[00:10:39] and so he goes to watch it and he ends up being brought on to the live stream and
[00:10:46] He tells him that he's an inventor himself and all this good stuff, and he tells Urkel to stop inventing and to start
[00:10:54] disrupting and so
[00:10:56] Robin the elf tells Urkel that he doesn't think that she doesn't think that this is a good idea
[00:11:01] But he goes off to try to figure out a way to help
[00:11:04] This mall Santa get more people to come see him. It's December, and there's no one there to see nobody there
[00:11:10] Nobody's in the mall the Christmas spirit is not there
[00:11:13] So he comes up with this big idea to have to slay and it will fly it around
[00:11:19] It'll be a whole thing and unfortunately it does not go well. It destroys the mall
[00:11:24] It destroys the town everybody is upset with him and the incident goes viral so Urkel decides
[00:11:32] To change his life and the next day. He's not gonna do anything that could possibly ruin someone's day
[00:11:38] He creates a watch that'll help him get back some points
[00:11:43] Because everyone knows Christmas is point based point based Christmas
[00:11:46] And so he begins to do things get points, and he goes to see this tech
[00:11:53] billionaire in
[00:11:55] Hopes that he could give him some pointers, and he says it shouldn't be a watch
[00:11:58] It should be an app in fact we can make it and launch it and so the next day
[00:12:03] Steve walks outside and everybody is going absolutely insane with Christmas cheer
[00:12:09] But only because of the point of points and Steve is very bothered by this
[00:12:14] He believes that he basically created a monster so he goes to the only
[00:12:19] Only person that could possibly help the actual real-life Santa and Santa is a yeti
[00:12:25] Santa is a yeti and we get to talk about that
[00:12:29] Santa's a yeti and that was tough for you to get over. It's a lot. It's a hurdle that was
[00:12:34] Tough for me to get over
[00:12:35] Santa agrees to come and help Steve stop the app, but ultimately it's all gonna come down to a chess match
[00:12:42] between Steve and the billionaire and
[00:12:46] ultimately
[00:12:48] Steve wins and
[00:12:50] So the app shuts down and everybody decides
[00:12:53] That they're all gonna go
[00:12:54] Continue to Christmas and holiday the way in which they want to and they all join together to help
[00:13:02] Urkel sing a Christmas song and that my friends was
[00:13:06] Urkel say Santa
[00:13:10] The movie we did it we did do it we are gonna take a quick break we'll come back
[00:13:14] We'll break this movie down here on
[00:13:17] Hallmark
[00:13:19] We're back everybody we're talking about the 2023 straight to rental
[00:13:32] Release of Urkel saves Santa. We're gonna break this movie down with our four segments
[00:13:37] We're gonna start with a hot take or share exactly how he felt about this movie. I'm gonna start with
[00:13:42] Alonzo who has no connection to family matters or the Urkel character
[00:13:48] Going in blind like that, how did this movie work for you? Did you did you enjoy it?
[00:13:54] Well, you know, yeah, I never did get around to watching family matters
[00:13:58] But I have been digging into a show lately because I'm so, you know cutting-edge. This is a brand new show called The Good Place
[00:14:10] I'd never seen it. No, I envy you getting to watch this for the hey
[00:14:14] Thank you
[00:14:15] And I'm really enjoying it
[00:14:17] but one of the one of the caught one of the many concepts that is tossed out along the way is the idea of
[00:14:23] moral dessert
[00:14:25] that there are people who are
[00:14:27] Ethical or moral not because it's the right thing to do or because of their own sort of personal code
[00:14:33] but because they think there is a reward waiting for them at the end of it whether a
[00:14:37] Tangible one or you know, perhaps an internal one in a potential other life
[00:14:42] But you know that that's the idea that you're not doing good for goodness sake as they say
[00:14:47] But for you know, you want payback out of all this so I kind of admire this movie for
[00:14:53] Digging into the notion of moral dessert as a thing for kids at Christmas time where it's not the notion of like, you know
[00:15:00] Running around and doing good deeds
[00:15:02] but sort of like trying to be a good person trying to make amends when you screw up and you know,
[00:15:09] You know that just that to me felt bold and different and plus Santa being a Yeti
[00:15:15] That said this is way too long and the songs are terrible. I totally hate it
[00:15:22] Wow
[00:15:24] No kind Alonzo. So I
[00:15:28] think that I've missed
[00:15:30] in my adult life is
[00:15:33] Christmas specials. We just don't really get them as much anymore these like these like 20 30 40. No, I
[00:15:41] Remember growing up I'd have these VHS tapes of all these random Christmas specials and I'd watch them every year and I'd get excited
[00:15:47] And at some point in my day you had to watch those shows when they aired. That's right
[00:15:53] That's right, but at some point they stopped making these as much and there's been a few over the past few years
[00:16:01] And I felt like this
[00:16:04] Would have been a fantastic Christmas special at 30 minutes
[00:16:10] 20 minutes
[00:16:12] 20 to 40 minutes. I think would have been a minutes with a stinger 20 to 40 minutes would have been a really sweet spot for
[00:16:18] This unfortunately we get an hour and 26 minutes with and you're right. The songs aren't good. They're not
[00:16:25] Memorable. I don't remember the melody of any of these particular songs, which is never what you want out of a musical
[00:16:32] And so all of the music and all of those numbers could have been thrown out and we would have actually had a pretty
[00:16:39] Fun and charming Christmas special and
[00:16:43] Instead we're left with something that's really long and unnecessary
[00:16:47] But the urkel parts and some of the like story elements are fun. I like the overall plot
[00:16:54] I think it's it's it is a good time
[00:16:56] But it's so hard to get over how long it is and how boring these songs are
[00:17:03] That's you I probably will forget about it
[00:17:06] And I won't really have any desire to watch it
[00:17:08] Whereas if it was just the story and it was 40 minutes or less
[00:17:13] I would probably watch this every year. I could I could find myself doing that
[00:17:16] I thought the animation was really cool, too. I thought it looked really good
[00:17:20] Yeah, it's unfortunate. It didn't have to be a full-length movie. It didn't have to be a musical
[00:17:26] But that's what we got
[00:17:27] And so unfortunately, it's gonna be forgotten Dan same opinion as these two but just less kind about it
[00:17:33] This one this one hurts like it is
[00:17:36] It hurts for a number of reasons one is I love family matters growing up and they do have some fun nods to the character
[00:17:42] of Steve Urkel, but
[00:17:44] What but the songs in this movie clearly are there to stretch it to feature length and
[00:17:50] They are bountiful in their quantity not in their quality
[00:17:56] They the first track here Urkel sings about loving the month of December for I'm gonna lowball at 86 minutes
[00:18:03] he
[00:18:04] Doesn't stop saying that he loves December. I don't know if the songs done yet. It is it is interminable
[00:18:12] the other reason this hurts is because
[00:18:15] There are a lot of really talented people involved with this Wyatt Sinek wrote the script of this movie Roy was wrong
[00:18:22] Yeah, Roy Wood jr. Is in it steel Jaleel white obviously returns Larry Owens who pops up in Abbott Elementary
[00:18:29] He's a ton of fun Nicole Byer she's great and everything she's in we have Joel can booster
[00:18:35] Yeah, we have a yeah, we have a talented
[00:18:39] group here just
[00:18:41] unfortunately attached to
[00:18:43] Justin Albatross without the songs you don't you still wouldn't like I think there's a world
[00:18:49] You still have to cut out some plot. I think a
[00:18:53] 22 or 3 minute half hour
[00:18:55] This could work, but it's just mostly filler
[00:18:59] I think even without the songs you're looking at 50 minutes, and I think a lot of that isn't great
[00:19:05] I do think that if we if we took out some stuff
[00:19:09] He doesn't even really save Santa guys like that's the big wave
[00:19:13] He never the title of the movies Urkel save Santa
[00:19:16] I don't have many way what's because this movies Looney Tunes crazy, but he doesn't do it
[00:19:21] He doesn't save Santa and so it needs more than just getting rid of the songs in my opinion
[00:19:27] It's got to have some refinement for it to work and it unfortunately aside from the fun winks to family matters
[00:19:35] Fans like me and the Joe which I'll get to in the fields this did not do anything for me at all I hated it
[00:19:41] Well, let's get to it. Let's get to those feels
[00:19:44] Alonzo
[00:19:45] Yeah, and I almost wonder like it's more about the tunes than the lyrics because I did really enjoy the rhyme
[00:19:53] It's a winter wonderland with escalators and ADA compliant elevators
[00:19:58] Yeah in the song about the mall like that made me laugh
[00:20:01] But like yeah, I could not hum any of those songs the second they were over much less now
[00:20:07] And so I think like yeah, why it said it wrote this thing
[00:20:11] I'm wondering maybe he could have like called up Lin-Manuel Miranda or somebody to like, you know, jot down some tunes
[00:20:17] Yeah to your point. I think the the last song of this movie is a reprise, but I'm not entirely sure
[00:20:24] There's a reprise of the December when it could have been an entirely different song
[00:20:27] I'm not I couldn't tell you the nose and I was watched it in one sitting
[00:20:32] So yeah, I just was the songs were so bad and I just that and that's done
[00:20:38] Yeah
[00:20:40] Go ahead. I'm sorry. Okay. I like the dream sequence where it goes from sort of 2d animation to like
[00:20:45] Yeah, either real or fake like stop motion motion. Yeah, very very Christmas specially
[00:20:52] The idea of making Santa a Yeti I thought was very clever
[00:20:56] And it works somehow and I thought the final speech like a lot of these things, you know, like Scrooge
[00:21:02] They come out of the how's that final speech about Christmas gonna be and it's pretty good
[00:21:07] Yeah, I mean just the the I thought visually it was a really cool look and I there's something about
[00:21:14] animation
[00:21:15] Christmas decorations and stuff that are just so warm and wonderful and I thought that this movie hit those hit those feels for me
[00:21:22] Dan yeah, I definitely have family matters feels here
[00:21:25] I the this movie starts like it's the beginning of a family matters episode except for the fact they don't have the rights to
[00:21:32] anything family matters
[00:21:34] So it has the same producers. That's what it's wild
[00:21:37] The gold font is there but the the song is off. They don't reference anybody really aside from Urkel
[00:21:45] I don't know how all that broke down
[00:21:47] But it was cool to feel like you were jumping back in to a family matters episode and my big feels and the one thing
[00:21:53] This movie gets really right to me is you know, and somebody in the chat can correct me
[00:21:57] I'm sure there are bigger family matters fans out there
[00:22:01] But to my knowledge and all of the episodes of family matters
[00:22:05] we never meet Steve's parents never and
[00:22:09] That's part of the kind of the impetus for why he's at the Winslow house so much is
[00:22:13] He doesn't really have a family of his own and he's not really wanted by a lot of people. He's eccentric. He's different
[00:22:19] He's a quote-unquote nerd. And so the Winslow's
[00:22:24] Begrudging acceptance of him is just kind of like well, this is the right thing to do
[00:22:28] And so we do it what's cool about this movie is is Urkel is living by himself
[00:22:32] I do we do meet a relative but it's him dressed in drag during the show
[00:22:37] Myrtle turtle Myrtle Urkel, I believe is her name. It's just Jaleel white dressed as a woman
[00:22:44] But he like in this movie. He doesn't have any family still
[00:22:49] but he's a part of a community and the community has people that celebrate all these different holidays and
[00:22:56] They and they all accept him for who he is and that
[00:23:00] Was awesome
[00:23:02] Like you if you watch if you have any empathy for Steve Urkel during the show and you watch the show
[00:23:09] You wonder what would happen to him if the Winslow's disappeared
[00:23:12] You would think it would be not good for him and to see Steve as an adult
[00:23:18] Without the Winslow's in a community where they accept him for who he is. He helps them out
[00:23:23] We celebrate all these different holidays. That was awesome. I love that and it was at that moment early in this movie
[00:23:30] I'm like this movie's gonna be good and then it wasn't
[00:23:34] Is he an adult? I'm not even clear
[00:23:37] Yeah, yeah, he's an adult he when he's a backroom space. Yes. He's back from space
[00:23:42] He didn't clearly the engagement to Laura or the marriage to Laura's never gonna work out. It's never gonna work
[00:23:48] but he
[00:23:49] What's wild about Jaleel White's portrayal of that character is by the time that show ended Jaleel was probably like
[00:23:55] 25 I mean he was like old and he had to go to a falsetto
[00:24:00] When he's like starts the character actually is way more nasally and more a lower octave
[00:24:06] But then as he gets older he has to go falsetto because he can't hit that and so
[00:24:11] The higher his voice the older he is is the weird thing about Urkel. That's the way to know
[00:24:16] He's an adult here if you can believe it
[00:24:18] He did a great job with the voice and at some a couple points his voice cracks too like it's like oh, yeah
[00:24:23] Yeah, just look right back. I said this to you and this is I don't have many weight watch for this movie
[00:24:28] But I said this to you as well, which is half of the fun of Steve Urkel is seeing Jaleel White's
[00:24:34] face and body as
[00:24:36] He says did I do that or look what you did or like talks about cheese and he starts moving his head back and forth
[00:24:42] Yeah, or like talks about his new invention and he can't sit still like and you don't get that
[00:24:46] You don't the thing about Urkel is Jaleel White was giving a great performance
[00:24:51] It wasn't a yes, of course
[00:24:54] It was meant to draw people in and of course it was gimmicky
[00:24:56] But what he was doing was hard to do and he was really good at it
[00:25:00] And so I hated not being able to actually see
[00:25:03] It did remind me there was a period where like they would turn popular sitcoms into Saturday morning cartoons
[00:25:09] So like there was an animated Laverne and Shirley. There was the Brady Kids cartoon
[00:25:14] There was even ones like Roseanne Barr. It's like a Lil Rosie or something
[00:25:18] So they kind of this kind of took me back to that weird era where they would just Oh kids like this show live-action
[00:25:24] We'll also pump out a cartoon and we have the actor in before one day a month to do all the voice work or whatever
[00:25:30] Yeah, did you catch that? There was a store at the mall called family mattress sure did
[00:25:35] Absolutely. That was the one reference. I got some funny stretch. Well, they Stefan or Kel shows up briefly one line
[00:25:42] Oracle bot is in there a bunch. There's some fun references in there, but not to anyone right? No Carl Eddie
[00:25:48] Yeah, very interesting weird way to go about it. Yeah, they're actually they're doing a
[00:25:54] Doing little racist Rosie on the blaze. I believe
[00:25:57] It's gonna be awesome. Oh, we're back here. I dug over
[00:26:01] Welcome back everybody. We're talking about Oracle saves Santa
[00:26:14] It's time for the wait what I don't know how long this segment will be
[00:26:17] What are you supposed to do here?
[00:26:20] Those inventions those are
[00:26:24] Are you kidding me crazy on your life, buddy
[00:26:29] Alonzo
[00:26:30] Yeah, I had a couple
[00:26:31] I went back and forth on whether or not I believed how abandoned of the mall was at Christmas time and I get it like
[00:26:38] More people are shopping online now, and they're not going to the mall
[00:26:41] But you know
[00:26:42] I think if you have a mall that's still open you are decorating for Christmas because if not now when like this is gonna be
[00:26:49] Your moment of the year, but I was like okay fine
[00:26:51] Alonzo as big a fan of malls as you are have you been to Heywood mall in you know that Greenville?
[00:26:56] We we have a no
[00:27:00] Thriving thriving we have a thriving mall in Greenville. That is like
[00:27:04] Like somehow it gets busier every I don't know how they release those numbers
[00:27:08] And I'm like they put a cheesecake factory in five years ago like it
[00:27:11] You know I mean like if people are going to the mall here well my hosts have been doing a crappy job
[00:27:18] Greenville because I have yet to see this but
[00:27:21] Funny a fried chicken while you were here. We did that right no complaints there
[00:27:25] none
[00:27:27] Yeah, the only one I could come up with it was an actual wait what in terms of plot stuff is when the hot-air balloon
[00:27:34] Deflates and the yacht comes crashing down into the neighborhood
[00:27:37] It takes down a whole lot of electrical poles and no one's lights go out none
[00:27:43] Zero how dare they yeah, they're like goof there
[00:27:47] I bet you wish they had that one back
[00:27:51] All I have here are hairs to split
[00:27:53] Oh mine is not mine or not good either. I would be very clear try these ones off the size
[00:27:58] You me I wrote down Steve knows
[00:28:02] Somehow a lot about basketball and also nothing about basketball at the same time he somehow knows like a lot of like
[00:28:10] Details about basketball. He's good at basketball knows who the Splash Brothers are doesn't know the term
[00:28:15] Raining bucket, so it's like you gotta find the sweet spot there. I'm gonna recover from that. Yeah
[00:28:23] Track right there
[00:28:25] The here's one I I
[00:28:29] Understand that the elf what's her name? I don't remember I wrote down at some point Rosie or something
[00:28:37] wanted this job to pay for
[00:28:40] her father to
[00:28:42] Get English lessons for her father and stuff like that. I do feel like she was
[00:28:49] Severely underwhelmed at what I think is an amazing invention by Steve. Yes, which is a thing that will literally translate as you speak
[00:28:57] She didn't even blink an eye like that's not what I wanted you can you cannot want and also be like
[00:29:05] She did was just like but that's not what I wanted Steve and I'm like
[00:29:09] But now that you
[00:29:12] Options pretty cool pretty cool option right that is that you have it the best way what I was the only thing
[00:29:19] I would say in defense somehow that is is that Steve Urkels inventions?
[00:29:23] Typically always don't go well don't go
[00:29:26] There if she's known him a while
[00:29:29] She would be like okay. It seems great on the surface
[00:29:32] This is gonna explode and to that point those kids should not be running around on a basketball court that warms itself with microwave
[00:29:40] That's dangerous. No dangerous. That's dangerous
[00:29:43] I have to one already mentioned which is saying as Steve Urkel does not save Santa the movie is called Urkel save Santa
[00:29:50] He does not do it. He does not save mall Santa
[00:29:53] He does not save yeti Santa zero Santas say could make an argument that yeti Santa saves him
[00:29:59] That's right. You could he saves no Santas
[00:30:03] Throughout this movie. Why did you call it Urkel save Santa?
[00:30:07] It could
[00:30:08] Save the holidays. Yes
[00:30:11] Saves December a lot of things you could say that aren't that and then lastly this movie does a good job of
[00:30:17] Empathizing with people aside from the fact that a bus driver decides to stop driving a bus in the middle of this movie
[00:30:24] People use mass transit to get from one place to another this bus driver arrives at the mall and is like maybe I'll go shopping
[00:30:32] she literally just
[00:30:35] Doesn't do her job. There are people freezing cold in Chicago waiting for a bus. She's not there
[00:30:42] That is a problem. I stand by the mall pulls you in Alonzo knows it all too. Well, yeah
[00:30:48] We've all been there. I think
[00:30:50] Driving a bus wasn't on a trash trash route picking up trash. You know, I'm gonna stop today
[00:30:55] Yeah, I got stuff to do was it performing a public service? No. No, he was not. I've never done that
[00:31:00] Hey, don't sell yourself short
[00:31:03] Hollywood pride out tomorrow and I think that's a pretty good public service right there
[00:31:08] Let's get to what the Hallmark or did he?
[00:31:14] Answer or ask any questions that we would still like answered Alonzo
[00:31:18] well, actually
[00:31:20] Daniel took mine in his all the fields, which is I wrote down did Urkel have parents on the show
[00:31:25] Because I I did not quite grasp that this character was an adult
[00:31:29] So I thought he was still like 14 and then I'm like and he's clearly living by himself
[00:31:35] Does no I think they do the authorities know somebody in the chat said his parents are never shown
[00:31:40] They're just mentioned and that's how I remembered it. I'm pretty sure that they're not around much
[00:31:43] I think the nuclear family unit of the Winslow family is a big part of his race
[00:31:49] Like it's the big part of how they how he grows up
[00:31:52] The thing about Urkel is is that the show struggles as they get older
[00:31:56] I mean, I mean, I don't know how old Jaleel white is but I can't imagine in that finale
[00:32:01] He was any younger than mid 20s and they still act kind of like he's you know
[00:32:06] They do go to college the kids go to college, but there's so much older than that. And so yeah
[00:32:10] So he is he was born in 1929
[00:32:13] He's a young adult and he's a young adult and he's a young adult
[00:32:16] But there's so much older than that and so yeah, so he is he was born in
[00:32:22] 1976 so in 96 he was 20 show ended in what 98 99. Yeah, so
[00:32:27] Yeah
[00:32:28] Younger younger than 25, so I was wrong on that but you still young, you know older than he should be for the show
[00:32:34] Yeah, I mean we've talked about how this is
[00:32:38] Family matters adjacent but not family Matt family matters and like that's the biggest question while watching
[00:32:44] This is just how like literally how did this happen? Yes, that's my how did the yeah
[00:32:49] The like I guess Urkel was a character in and of itself that they could get the rights to
[00:32:54] But nothing else from family. Is it like a Hannah Swenson thing where the Hannah Swenson is free reign
[00:33:00] You can call her Hannah Swenson or you have the rights to this character, but it's not tied to these
[00:33:06] Movies or whatever like is it? Yeah, but there's just like there's no
[00:33:10] No, they leave nothing to the imagination as to whether or not this is the Steve Urkel, right?
[00:33:15] You know what?
[00:33:16] They probably would have had to pay likeness rights to the other actors if they used to them as characters
[00:33:21] Okay, but no no mention of Eddie. No Carl. Yeah
[00:33:26] Laura like none
[00:33:29] Myrtle yeah, it is wild to me that this movie exists in a world
[00:33:36] Where Steve Urkel is the main character and he says his catchphrase
[00:33:40] Did I do that did I do that?
[00:33:42] But there is no mention of anything in the family matters verse at all
[00:33:48] directly
[00:33:49] And I just would love to know the leak clearly there were legal hoops to jump through and I would like to know them
[00:33:55] And I also weird that there aren't any like diehard jokes in this movie given the Reginald L. Johnson. Can I?
[00:34:02] Easy layup and also Kathy mentioned in the in the comments and I did have this written down
[00:34:06] But there's Judy is is the younger sister in the show and she always comes down the stairs during the theme song and then one day
[00:34:13] Judy's just not there and she's not on the show anymore at all
[00:34:17] This was prime. This movie was a prime real estate for a Judy joke. Yeah, and you could have made that joke
[00:34:23] I feel like without
[00:34:25] compromising any sort of like copyright stuff
[00:34:28] But they didn't they chose not to and that was unfortunate because this was the time
[00:34:32] To make a Judy joke or a 3j joke or a you know a rich something like that
[00:34:36] You have to imagine that this movie was originally they had a ton of family matter stuff
[00:34:41] They had a car and they said I guess we'll fill it with song
[00:34:46] Completely yeah, it was gonna be a four episode miniseries. Yeah, it became a six-minute movie. Yes with music
[00:34:53] We did everybody congratulations Urkel
[00:34:56] Did indeed save Santa so we're told in a sense
[00:34:59] Up next we're heading over to free before it's a Christmas thing. I think Chris Russell is just a Christmas. Yes
[00:35:08] Christopher Russell is in this movie. It's a Christmas thing
[00:35:11] also, I believe it was originally or
[00:35:15] It's also look looks like it comes up with peppermints and postcards
[00:35:19] I don't know how it all happened, but you should be able to find it on the prime with
[00:35:24] It's a Christmas thing. So there you go. We'll be back next week with that until then get Alonzo's book
[00:35:31] We'll see you tomorrow and may we be the first to wish you a Merry Christmas
[00:35:36] Podcast is produced by Aaron Shay
[00:35:38] For more information on deck the homer you can go to deck the hallmark
[00:35:42] calm for information on the deck the hallmark family
[00:35:44] You can go to bramble jam plus calm deck the hallmark is presented by philo TV for a free trial of philo
[00:35:50] Go to philo dot TV slash DTH
[00:35:58] You're about to hear some ads that help keep the lights on here in the old studio
[00:36:04] Thanks for listening or don't listen. It's really up to you at this point. It's at the end of the show
[00:36:10] I mean you're listening to me. Hi
[00:36:12] But here they come I promised her come. Yep. Here they are
[00:36:16] Happy day
