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[00:00:00] Oh hi, I didn't see you there. It's Fran. I love When Calls The Heart.
[00:00:08] I'm Jax and I like When Calls The Heart.
[00:00:12] I'm Dan. I despise When Calls The Heart and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast!
[00:00:16] Deck The Hallmark, it's this podcast.
[00:00:20] With an inference host is podcast.
[00:00:24] We hope you like this jolly podcast.
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[00:00:32] Follow the law.
[00:00:36] Hello, good day and salutations everybody. It is great to be here.
[00:00:40] Another Wednesday which could only mean one thing Dan,
[00:00:44] this time of year. Hope Valley. Hope Valley. That's right.
[00:00:48] Back in that wagon. That wagon. That wagon or that horse.
[00:00:52] Hey, you know what we've not talked about? Did you say horse to do it? We've not talked about this year at all.
[00:00:56] Ted, last year, two years ago,
[00:01:00] Ted flew, hi Jax by the way, hi Jax join us as always.
[00:01:04] Featuring Jacqueline Collier of the Bubbly Sets.
[00:01:08] Above the title is really what I'm going for.
[00:01:12] Jacklyn Collier presents Deck The Hallmark featuring Jack. For two straight seasons,
[00:01:16] Ted flew you down for every episode of the show
[00:01:20] and then last year it seemed as though he was gonna and things didn't
[00:01:24] happen at all like week to week and this year we've not heard
[00:01:28] hide nor hair. I haven't found there's a reason. I think there's a reason for that.
[00:01:32] Jax. Yeah, um,
[00:01:36] it was really making Ted's wife uncomfortable
[00:01:40] hearing me talk on the podcast about him. I don't know,
[00:01:44] like honestly, I don't know where she got the idea that there was something weird.
[00:01:48] Yeah, it seemed all above board to me. The whole shop house, the whole thing. It was all about board.
[00:01:52] I was married. Yeah. Oh, didn't I mention that?
[00:01:56] Yeah, I just, I did learn that today. That is true. Yeah.
[00:02:00] And it was just making her feel uncomfortable. She felt like we were getting
[00:02:04] a little too close. But it was purely a platonic
[00:02:08] right, but you could see maybe how she got there. I'll pay you to fly
[00:02:12] down to Greenville and then you'll go out to eat with me.
[00:02:16] Yeah. I mean, I just feel like he found
[00:02:20] me to be a fascinating conversationalist. Yeah.
[00:02:24] And sometimes I'd give him back rubs and stuff, but other than that, like
[00:02:28] I don't know what you're complaining about.
[00:02:32] So I get it. And I respect the thing to the other marriage.
[00:02:36] Yeah. No, I totally, and she told me she felt uncomfortable.
[00:02:40] You know what? You were just a
[00:02:44] platonic fly to Greenville, go out to eat and fly back with
[00:02:48] a ferociously high-end truck. And I was like,
[00:02:52] oh, I'm not going to get married. I'm going to get married.
[00:02:56] I don't have any other way to make her feel uncomfortable.
[00:03:00] I feel like she's kind of like a softback to me,
[00:03:04] but I mean, you know, she's a sweet girl.
[00:03:08] She's a good girl. She doesn't have to be upset.
[00:03:12] You know what I mean? She's a sweet girl.
[00:03:16] Maybe he goes to nine.
[00:03:17] They don't go past nine.
[00:03:19] Are we sure it's 12?
[00:03:20] We've confirmed that.
[00:03:21] I don't know if it's actually been confirmed,
[00:03:23] but I feel like we have it on good authority.
[00:03:26] Why did we think it in the first place, Aaron?
[00:03:29] Do you remember how we got here?
[00:03:30] Jacks brought it up, but last season was 12.
[00:03:34] Last season was 12.
[00:03:35] According to IMDB.
[00:03:36] Really?
[00:03:37] Last season was 12, yes.
[00:03:39] 11, I have nine episodes here
[00:03:43] and eight of them have plots next to them.
[00:03:47] Wow.
[00:03:48] Fair enough.
[00:03:49] You know, we'll go with 12.
[00:03:51] I think that's probably a safe.
[00:03:52] I don't know if we can really get to the bottom
[00:03:54] of Hickam and Macy's relationship in just nine episodes.
[00:03:57] That's true.
[00:03:59] She's gonna take more than that.
[00:04:01] Maybe a 22 West Wing level is what we need.
[00:04:06] At least, yeah.
[00:04:07] That's at least what we need to get to the bottom of that.
[00:04:09] I would watch 22 episodes of this
[00:04:10] for one more season of the West Wing, Jacks.
[00:04:13] Oh my gosh, absolute.
[00:04:15] Oh, one more season of the West Wing.
[00:04:17] Yeah.
[00:04:19] Bring Aaron Sorkin back.
[00:04:20] You know it's not happening, right?
[00:04:21] You were responding as if it was actually on the table.
[00:04:25] I've got Aaron Sorkin on the line
[00:04:26] and I was like, if it's gonna take what it's gonna take.
[00:04:28] Like I've pulled all the strings here.
[00:04:30] I've made it.
[00:04:31] Walk and you're talking.
[00:04:31] I have to tell you guys something really funny
[00:04:34] quickly about the West Wing that the other day,
[00:04:36] I don't usually do CBD gummies,
[00:04:38] but I was having one in the evening to relax.
[00:04:40] You and Brian both.
[00:04:42] Too strong.
[00:04:42] Oh, okay, good Brian.
[00:04:44] We should make them a sponsor the pod.
[00:04:46] The CBD gummies that I use.
[00:04:47] They did.
[00:04:48] Well, microdose.
[00:04:49] I don't know who you were using, but microdose was.
[00:04:51] Well, I thought, okay, oh, hi, microdose.
[00:04:53] I thought I was microdosing.
[00:04:55] Let me just say I wasn't, mistakes were made.
[00:04:58] And I was at a whole new level
[00:05:00] of not knowing what existence was.
[00:05:03] And the only thing I could say, I said to Alex,
[00:05:05] I said, I don't know what's happening.
[00:05:08] I don't feel tethered to reality.
[00:05:11] Put on West Wing, I need something familiar.
[00:05:13] And then I fell asleep to just Jed Bartlett comforting me.
[00:05:18] And that's all like,
[00:05:19] that's all that was keeping me tethered to reality
[00:05:23] was West Wing.
[00:05:24] So I would do almost anything for another season.
[00:05:25] Yeah.
[00:05:26] Yeah.
[00:05:27] And apparently I'm the worst negotiator in the world
[00:05:29] because what I asked for was a 22 episode win
[00:05:32] calls the heart season.
[00:05:33] Ah, bad, bad job on my part.
[00:05:37] So in this reality is sorkin a big one calls the heart fan.
[00:05:41] I don't know why is that?
[00:05:43] I just said it out loud that maybe we need that
[00:05:46] and I would be willing to watch it for one more.
[00:05:47] Not I wanted to watch it for one more.
[00:05:49] But then it just snowballed from there
[00:05:52] and Jack's is high and there's nothing we could do.
[00:05:54] There was just a whole thing.
[00:05:58] I bet Alex is fun with gummies.
[00:06:03] Oh, he doesn't do that.
[00:06:04] He doesn't do that.
[00:06:05] And I'm, I don't drink.
[00:06:07] I'm usually always sober.
[00:06:09] So the gummies were a mistake.
[00:06:11] They hit different.
[00:06:11] The gummies were a mistake.
[00:06:12] But he drinks Alex drinks, right?
[00:06:15] He drinks.
[00:06:15] But doesn't do the gummies and you don't drink.
[00:06:18] That's why you guys are great.
[00:06:20] That's right.
[00:06:21] That's me in heaven.
[00:06:22] Perfect pair.
[00:06:23] Say hi to Alex for us.
[00:06:24] Missed that guy.
[00:06:25] Well, he said when we were getting in the car yesterday
[00:06:28] he had decked the hallmark all queued up
[00:06:30] and he's like, that's just what I listened to.
[00:06:32] There's just no way that that's a true story.
[00:06:35] No, no, that actually did happen.
[00:06:37] It's a joke.
[00:06:37] Now he's like listening though, because I was like,
[00:06:40] Hey, listen to us.
[00:06:41] We're all friends.
[00:06:42] And so now we got so good at that.
[00:06:44] What a guy above and beyond.
[00:06:46] He's a guy.
[00:06:47] Speaking of above and beyond.
[00:06:49] Above and beyond.
[00:06:50] Philo, phylo.tv says DTH.
[00:06:52] You can watch the wind calls the heart
[00:06:54] and you can watch this review.
[00:06:55] Wind calls the heart all in one nice little place.
[00:06:58] You don't want to do game changing episodes
[00:07:00] like this episode.
[00:07:01] I just watched a new Liam Neeson movie on Philo.
[00:07:07] It was there available for streaming via the stars,
[00:07:09] which is inside of Philo, which was nice.
[00:07:13] So shout out to Liam Neeson.
[00:07:15] Shout out to Wind calls the heart.
[00:07:15] Shout out to Liam.
[00:07:16] Shout out to, we're basically,
[00:07:18] we are now I think in business with Liam.
[00:07:20] We're in business with Liam Neeson.
[00:07:22] Because that's how that works.
[00:07:23] Which is awesome.
[00:07:24] Wow.
[00:07:24] Wind calls the heart season 11 episode three.
[00:07:26] It's called.
[00:07:27] You better believe it.
[00:07:28] Jax.
[00:07:31] What's it called?
[00:07:33] I think it's you better believe it.
[00:07:34] I think it's you better believe it is not.
[00:07:37] It is steps forward.
[00:07:40] Suspenders shirtless unbuttoned?
[00:07:42] Is that what it's called?
[00:07:43] Steps forward.
[00:07:45] Should be.
[00:07:46] April 21st, 2024 and when it was something like this.
[00:07:50] We're in capital city and Bill is on the ground
[00:07:54] looking at rocks and stuff.
[00:07:55] He's testing out the timing of the story
[00:08:00] of the shooting.
[00:08:01] What is supposed to have happened.
[00:08:04] His conclusion?
[00:08:07] Somebody's lying.
[00:08:09] Cut to Hope Valley and Lucas is signing the paperwork
[00:08:12] to sell the saloon to Lee and Lee is like maybe
[00:08:17] I'll actually spend some time here.
[00:08:18] It'll be fun.
[00:08:20] Maybe I actually will fill up more of my time
[00:08:22] with the saloon.
[00:08:24] What's the worst that could happen?
[00:08:25] Nathan goes by the schoolhouse to quote unquote
[00:08:28] drop off lunch, which leads to him talking
[00:08:32] about Elizabeth, about how good life is.
[00:08:34] Life's good, right?
[00:08:35] It's good.
[00:08:36] It's good.
[00:08:37] It's good.
[00:08:37] It's really good.
[00:08:38] Now Cooper is upset with Angela because she gave his
[00:08:43] best baseball to the dog scout.
[00:08:46] The dog.
[00:08:47] And shoot it all up.
[00:08:49] Now Angela says like Cooper you used my favorite
[00:08:52] ribbon as a slingshot.
[00:08:53] This is so great.
[00:08:54] So will these two kids work it out?
[00:08:56] Hearing this.
[00:08:57] Stay tuned.
[00:08:57] Hearing this a second time.
[00:08:59] Bill updates Nathan on his testing.
[00:09:02] Nathan reminds Bill that Monogue was investigated
[00:09:06] and Bill thinks I don't really care that he was investigated.
[00:09:10] I think maybe he hired the guy to take the hit
[00:09:15] or whatever, but something is shady going on here
[00:09:17] and I think Monogue could still be involved.
[00:09:20] There's a kid named Toby who's bad at math.
[00:09:24] This is continuation from last week.
[00:09:26] Yes.
[00:09:27] And he's still bad at math.
[00:09:28] All right.
[00:09:29] An update there.
[00:09:30] Thank you.
[00:09:30] Rosemary tells Bill that she's interviewing Monogue
[00:09:33] for the paper, a firsthand source.
[00:09:35] A scoop.
[00:09:37] Bill says I want in on this call.
[00:09:39] I'll just listen in.
[00:09:40] May and Mike are almost five months into
[00:09:42] their relationship.
[00:09:43] They almost kiss but she knocks the sugar over
[00:09:46] and you can't recover from a situation like that.
[00:09:49] No way.
[00:09:50] You wouldn't just power through and kiss.
[00:09:52] You'd say well I guess we got a call today.
[00:09:55] Apparently some people are still.
[00:09:57] We're going down swinging.
[00:09:59] That's exactly that.
[00:10:02] Some people are still concerned about the resort
[00:10:04] and Rosemary is gonna publish those concerns in the paper.
[00:10:07] Lee's like I'm not so sure you should do that.
[00:10:09] Giving people a voice to voice their concerns.
[00:10:12] Yeah we don't want to do that.
[00:10:13] Is that what we want to do?
[00:10:13] Is that what we want to do?
[00:10:16] Bill and Nathan sit with Lucas.
[00:10:19] Edwin is there.
[00:10:20] Edwin, we all remember Edwin of course.
[00:10:22] Yeah of course.
[00:10:23] Of Edwin and Edwin son.
[00:10:25] Edwin and Edwin son.
[00:10:26] Describes Edwin the best.
[00:10:27] Jax you were describing Edwin and his character.
[00:10:31] Who Edwin is?
[00:10:33] Oh I guess he was titillating.
[00:10:37] Yeah but who is he?
[00:10:39] Oh well he's Lucas' campaign manager.
[00:10:41] Right?
[00:10:42] Right.
[00:10:43] And before him.
[00:10:44] Who is also like the nasty guy from the springs.
[00:10:46] Yes.
[00:10:47] He was a nasty tourist.
[00:10:50] And then he worked for the current governor
[00:10:52] and now he worked for Lucas.
[00:10:53] And I remember it.
[00:10:53] I remember it.
[00:10:55] But I appreciate Jax contributing.
[00:10:57] Oh yeah no problem.
[00:10:59] And Bill is talking about how he's a little bit concerned
[00:11:02] about maybe some security.
[00:11:04] I don't know if you know this or not.
[00:11:05] Someone tried to kill the governor.
[00:11:08] So I don't know.
[00:11:09] Lucas is like, Bill is trying to get Lucas
[00:11:13] to give him anything.
[00:11:14] Bill and Nathan both are.
[00:11:15] Do you remember anything about the shooting?
[00:11:16] He's like hey man I hit my head pretty hard.
[00:11:20] I only remember in the hospital I had that wrap
[00:11:23] around my head.
[00:11:24] That's from when I hit my head
[00:11:26] so I don't actually really remember.
[00:11:28] That's why I forgot about that gauze.
[00:11:30] Nathan's like hey man we're gonna protect you
[00:11:32] don't you worry your pretty little head.
[00:11:35] It's pretty now.
[00:11:36] It's not entering anymore.
[00:11:37] Elizabeth sees Nathan, Hoblin, I'm sorry Lucas,
[00:11:41] Hoblin down the road.
[00:11:42] You know he's got a limp and says.
[00:11:45] He's been hit with a few shells.
[00:11:46] Can I walk with you?
[00:11:48] Okay.
[00:11:49] Can I walk with you?
[00:11:52] Elizabeth.
[00:11:53] Would you care for some company?
[00:11:54] That's right.
[00:11:55] Which is basically.
[00:11:57] Yeah do you wanna.
[00:11:57] Hope Valley language.
[00:11:59] Hook up.
[00:12:00] That's right.
[00:12:00] That's Hope Valley hookup culture is what that is.
[00:12:03] After that Elizabeth goes into Nathan's office.
[00:12:07] Wants to you know talk about everything
[00:12:10] and doesn't see him.
[00:12:12] Where is he?
[00:12:13] Where could he be?
[00:12:14] Oh I don't know.
[00:12:15] It's just shirtless.
[00:12:16] Walks out.
[00:12:17] Damn shirtless.
[00:12:19] He's like sorry about that.
[00:12:22] But is she?
[00:12:23] That smile begs to differ.
[00:12:26] In the.
[00:12:27] Are you writing fan fiction?
[00:12:31] That smile begs to differ.
[00:12:33] Try this one on for size.
[00:12:34] In the interview, Monogu is like,
[00:12:36] hey I was at a party with at least 100 other people
[00:12:41] that can tell you that I was where I said I was.
[00:12:45] You don't got nothing on me.
[00:12:46] Using Benson Hills.
[00:12:47] Yeah.
[00:12:48] For the other governor's thing.
[00:12:49] Yes.
[00:12:50] Yeah big party time.
[00:12:50] That's right.
[00:12:51] Tobias, bad at math and cries about it this time.
[00:12:56] May and Mike are, they're gonna surprise picnic dates.
[00:13:00] Five month anniversary.
[00:13:02] Maybe this time we'll get that smoochy smooch.
[00:13:04] You will not.
[00:13:05] They are interrupted by Elizabeth, Lucas and all the kids.
[00:13:09] Cause they've come out to the woods for a photo op.
[00:13:13] The rival Randall as we call him around here.
[00:13:15] Rival Randall.
[00:13:16] Randall Rockwell.
[00:13:17] Is also there to take a picture for this.
[00:13:21] This is where the resort is gonna be.
[00:13:25] Rival Randall knows that this land,
[00:13:27] part of the land actually belongs to Benson Hills.
[00:13:30] The side of the mountain.
[00:13:32] This isn't gonna be a problem though I'm sure.
[00:13:34] Edwin's like no big deal.
[00:13:36] We're gonna negotiate it with the mayor.
[00:13:37] It's not gonna be a big deal.
[00:13:39] Edwin seems very sure that it's not gonna be a problem.
[00:13:41] Cooper and Angela are still fighting.
[00:13:43] So finally Joseph says I've got to get
[00:13:46] in the middle of this.
[00:13:47] I don't want you to end up like me and my brother.
[00:13:50] You don't know existed cause I don't talk to him anymore.
[00:13:53] And they're like well this is some heavy stuff dad.
[00:13:55] Think you're right maybe we should be friends again.
[00:13:57] So that's nice.
[00:13:59] Love that.
[00:14:00] Rosemary shows Bill a photo that was taken of Montague
[00:14:05] where he said that he was.
[00:14:07] And so this proves that he was where he says he was
[00:14:09] and that happened an hour after the shooting.
[00:14:12] Couldn't have taken the express train, no way.
[00:14:13] Can't tell you, did not enough time.
[00:14:16] But she agrees something still seems
[00:14:18] a little bit shady here but you know, his story checks out.
[00:14:23] Little bit about Bobo doing Elizabeth
[00:14:25] and Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan.
[00:14:28] And both of them.
[00:14:29] This is what we're actually doing
[00:14:30] we're recording right now you know.
[00:14:32] Yes so.
[00:14:33] We did run through beforehand.
[00:14:34] We did a full run through this.
[00:14:35] Okay.
[00:14:36] Just making sure you knew it.
[00:14:37] Yes.
[00:14:38] So everyone knows as I'm sure you do
[00:14:41] that Lucas is supposed to not be here for very long.
[00:14:44] Yeah that's right.
[00:14:45] But Edwin said they're popping back
[00:14:48] to the capital city which they've not named.
[00:14:50] That's exactly right.
[00:14:51] Yeah.
[00:14:52] Elizabeth tells Nathan we're gonna,
[00:14:54] everything's gonna get back to normal.
[00:14:58] Is it though?
[00:14:58] Because Lucas then tells the crowd
[00:15:00] that he is not going anywhere.
[00:15:03] And he's going to stay put and hope Valley
[00:15:06] and make sure that the resort works out
[00:15:09] as it's supposed to be so he's not going anywhere.
[00:15:12] And now my friends was,
[00:15:14] where it calls to heart season 11 episode three.
[00:15:17] You stepped forward.
[00:15:19] We're gonna take a quick break.
[00:15:20] We're gonna come back.
[00:15:21] We're gonna break this episode down here on.
[00:15:22] That's the homework.
[00:15:24] Hello there little ones.
[00:15:37] It's brand Dan Jax.
[00:15:39] We're all back.
[00:15:40] We're talking about Winkles the Heart season 11
[00:15:42] episode three.
[00:15:44] Let's break it down.
[00:15:45] We're gonna start with a hot take
[00:15:46] and we'll share exactly how we felt about this episode.
[00:15:47] We do not hold back
[00:15:48] and I'm gonna start with you Jax Jax.
[00:15:51] Episode three, how we feeling?
[00:15:55] Well, this is gonna be the hottest of hot takes
[00:15:58] because if you thought I was horned up last week.
[00:16:02] Seeing my man solve mysteries, he's in capital city.
[00:16:11] He's running around.
[00:16:13] He's testing theories.
[00:16:15] He's coming back to Hope Valley, Jack Wagner.
[00:16:18] This role looks good on you.
[00:16:21] And I know I'm excited too
[00:16:24] that there was a lot of joy around Nathan being shirtless.
[00:16:27] That was a great scene.
[00:16:29] I thought it was fun.
[00:16:30] I thought it was playful.
[00:16:31] You know, Elizabeth looks like she's feeling
[00:16:34] how I'm feeling about Jack Wagner.
[00:16:36] But the episode kicked off with a bang.
[00:16:39] This is my favorite episode of the season so far.
[00:16:44] There are little things here and there
[00:16:45] that we'll get into that could be improved upon
[00:16:48] but I am back in the swing of liking one calls the heart
[00:16:53] and I'm crediting this episode with that.
[00:16:55] So thank you.
[00:16:55] Episode three, my favorite so far.
[00:16:58] Wow.
[00:16:59] Hot takes.
[00:17:00] Okay, you guys do like this one
[00:17:02] but I mean I'll get to hear what you say
[00:17:03] but you have to like this better than the first episode.
[00:17:06] Yeah, I like this episode.
[00:17:09] Fine.
[00:17:11] There's so much going on that I don't care about.
[00:17:13] Yes.
[00:17:14] But when we actually get again,
[00:17:17] this is the same problem though.
[00:17:18] Like for me personally, I believe that the show
[00:17:21] as wonderful as the people are that are on the show,
[00:17:24] there's just too many people to care about everybody
[00:17:27] and all the stories.
[00:17:28] I do think that the central storyline of the season
[00:17:33] even though I would just like to get this over with
[00:17:36] and have these two lovebirds kiss next episode,
[00:17:38] get engaged by six and get married.
[00:17:40] It's just not happening.
[00:17:41] It doesn't seem like it's happening.
[00:17:42] I do think obviously Lucas is gonna be sticking around.
[00:17:46] We're gonna have a bit of a thing here.
[00:17:47] I do think that the general mystery of the shooting,
[00:17:52] the resorts, Nathan Elizabeth,
[00:17:56] that I think as the bones of this season
[00:18:01] are overall fine.
[00:18:02] I don't, I'm not hating it.
[00:18:04] It's all these other random things
[00:18:06] that happen throughout each episode
[00:18:08] that like kind of I'm like feeling the episode.
[00:18:11] I'm doing, I'm having a good time.
[00:18:13] And then like the kids crying
[00:18:16] and I'm like, I just don't care about the kid
[00:18:17] who doesn't know math crying.
[00:18:18] Like I'd call me, call, I know.
[00:18:21] Call me heartless.
[00:18:22] Call me heartless, but I just don't care about it.
[00:18:24] Because you yourself do not know math.
[00:18:25] Cause I don't know how to do math.
[00:18:27] I don't know how to read.
[00:18:28] I don't know how to do it like,
[00:18:29] and it's just like whatever.
[00:18:30] Like I'm enjoying the big parts of this season.
[00:18:35] And it's just like, let's just,
[00:18:36] I just want to focus on the thing.
[00:18:38] I know that's not what's going to happen.
[00:18:39] And so overall this episode,
[00:18:41] I do think is the best of the season
[00:18:43] started out riveting a fantastic scene
[00:18:47] by Mr. Bill Avery playing detective
[00:18:50] ear to the ground.
[00:18:52] Love it, love it.
[00:18:54] A great way to start the episode.
[00:18:57] Overall, good time.
[00:18:59] Brain might be back.
[00:19:01] I would say it's weird cause I just disagree
[00:19:04] with the breakdown.
[00:19:06] Like the main three things of this,
[00:19:09] if they are the mystery of the shooter,
[00:19:12] the hotel and then Elizabeth and Nathan,
[00:19:15] I would argue if we want to start positive first,
[00:19:17] yes, the first scene, I wrote it down here.
[00:19:19] Bill doing detective work before the theme song
[00:19:23] is easily the best thing I've seen on this show
[00:19:25] in three years minimum.
[00:19:27] Okay?
[00:19:28] Letting him do that, let Bill Avery cook.
[00:19:31] Let him go and work, do your thing.
[00:19:33] The problem is even when he's with Rosemary,
[00:19:36] those are also good scenes.
[00:19:37] That accounts for eight, nine minutes this episode tops.
[00:19:41] Okay, the other things,
[00:19:44] you would agree the school stuff is bad.
[00:19:46] You would agree faith in the little girl stuff,
[00:19:49] not super great at all, building the daycare,
[00:19:52] not great, Mesa and Hickam, not great.
[00:19:55] A lot of these other things, not great.
[00:19:57] If we're talking about these other two things,
[00:19:59] this resort, how dare, first of all, how dare you?
[00:20:03] We spent the better part of two seasons
[00:20:05] with Hope Valley trying to keep a resort from coming here.
[00:20:08] And now we're gonna act like we didn't do that for two years
[00:20:12] to do it again.
[00:20:13] How dare you?
[00:20:14] Nathan and Elizabeth getting together.
[00:20:16] They are at least trying to give you
[00:20:18] the slightest bit of inclination
[00:20:20] that Lucas is still in play for Elizabeth.
[00:20:24] How dare you?
[00:20:25] You've done that twice already, twice.
[00:20:28] So is Bill Avery trying to solve a murder the best?
[00:20:32] Yes, yes.
[00:20:34] Is this episode the best because of it?
[00:20:37] On the card, yes it is, yes it is.
[00:20:39] I will grant you that it is, yes it is.
[00:20:41] But where I would disagree is,
[00:20:43] is the breakdown that those three pillars are all working.
[00:20:49] The other two pillars are old, tired,
[00:20:51] have been done before
[00:20:53] and have come out with a similar and or different outcome.
[00:20:57] Those two things are part of the problem of the show.
[00:21:01] I'm in agreement with Bran,
[00:21:02] I wanna see those two get together
[00:21:04] if it means the end of the show.
[00:21:06] If we're gonna sit here and act like Lucas is back
[00:21:10] in town and they're walking and they're making eyes
[00:21:12] and there's still this love triangle again,
[00:21:15] embarrassingly bad.
[00:21:16] The resort, are you kidding me?
[00:21:18] Lucas staying in town for it as the governor of,
[00:21:21] what I can only imagine is Canada, awful.
[00:21:24] There is the show, the murder mystery is solid
[00:21:29] because Jack Wagner and Pascal Hutton are great together
[00:21:32] which is my feels but I'll just say it here.
[00:21:35] They don't get a lot of scenes together normally.
[00:21:36] They're solving a murder together, it's great.
[00:21:39] It accounts for not 20% of this television program.
[00:21:43] It accounts for 10, 11, 12%.
[00:21:45] That is good.
[00:21:46] The more attention that gets,
[00:21:48] the better the episode will get.
[00:21:50] The rest of this stuff can die a slow death.
[00:21:54] It is anywhere from unwatchable to,
[00:21:58] I can't believe that they're acting like we've not seen
[00:22:00] any of the previous seasons before
[00:22:02] and that's where I would disagree is the breakdown of this,
[00:22:05] I think we're all in agreement
[00:22:06] the ancillary stuff isn't working.
[00:22:08] The extraneous, the Hickam-Mesu, the daycare,
[00:22:15] but I think with those three big tent polls
[00:22:16] only one is working for me
[00:22:17] it sounds like all three are working for you.
[00:22:20] They're working for me as a whole collectively, yeah.
[00:22:24] I don't know if we're all in agreement
[00:22:26] that the ancillary stuff is okay no, no.
[00:22:29] Is it working from a storytelling perspective
[00:22:35] from a screenwriting perspective?
[00:22:37] Yeah.
[00:22:38] No, but am I enjoying the heck out of these kids
[00:22:43] and the daycare center
[00:22:44] and the scene with the little boy who can't do math?
[00:22:47] I actually am.
[00:22:48] Are you?
[00:22:49] I'm gonna treat it great.
[00:22:50] It's not a good story.
[00:22:51] I'm so happy for you.
[00:22:53] But I'm enjoying it.
[00:22:54] I think by enjoyment.
[00:22:57] I think my point, like I like Frickham in May
[00:23:00] and I think that that's swell.
[00:23:02] It's just that that just takes me out of the overall.
[00:23:06] Like in my mind, it is still this show
[00:23:09] is all about Elizabeth, Lucas and Nathan
[00:23:13] and the storyline in which those three are now in
[00:23:17] and it's just not, that's not what it is anymore.
[00:23:21] But anytime we go somewhere else,
[00:23:24] I'm just like, I would just wanna go back to the thing.
[00:23:27] Yeah.
[00:23:28] And what I will say Dan that I agree with you 100%
[00:23:30] about the resort, they are actually,
[00:23:35] this word gets overused but it feels like
[00:23:37] they're gaslighting us because they're not even mentioning
[00:23:40] that they didn't, like, oh, things have changed
[00:23:42] since before, like they're not mentioning it
[00:23:44] and it's really not fair because if there's anything,
[00:23:48] it's just respectful to the hearties
[00:23:50] because they know everything about this show.
[00:23:52] Come on.
[00:23:53] Yeah.
[00:23:54] I just, the resort stuff is taking up,
[00:23:56] if I could take the resort stuff away
[00:23:59] and put it all towards the murder mystery
[00:24:01] then we'd have something.
[00:24:02] Then we'd have a show that is probably operating
[00:24:05] at the height of its powers
[00:24:06] even with all that other stuff, wouldn't you agree?
[00:24:07] I would.
[00:24:08] But the problem is, is if without the resort stuff
[00:24:10] Lucas isn't around.
[00:24:12] Which is also fine by me.
[00:24:14] I love Chris McNally,
[00:24:15] I don't think you'd heard his feelings.
[00:24:17] But I would, of the things, it's the thing,
[00:24:20] like if it was just, hey, I think the mystery's,
[00:24:23] like give Bill the mystery, let him do it.
[00:24:26] Like I'll do that all day long
[00:24:28] and then let Elizabeth and Nathan fall in love.
[00:24:30] I don't really need Lucas to be around at this point.
[00:24:33] No.
[00:24:34] But I'm not, like I like him so I'm not upset but it's just-
[00:24:38] I also am more intrigued in the mystery now
[00:24:40] that they've kind of said,
[00:24:42] I thought that they had already done this thing
[00:24:43] where they're like Montague basically hired
[00:24:47] this guy to do it.
[00:24:48] And so it gives me some hope that maybe this mystery
[00:24:53] involves a twist because I was worried
[00:24:56] that the mystery is Bill Avery's gonna hold Montague's
[00:24:59] feet to the fire and not let him get away with it
[00:25:02] but there is no actual mystery.
[00:25:04] It's just we know Montague's involved,
[00:25:07] let's connect that dot and we'll be done.
[00:25:10] I'm hopeful that maybe-
[00:25:12] Edwin's definitely dirty, right?
[00:25:14] Like did you pick up on that?
[00:25:15] Yeah, 100%
[00:25:16] Yeah, it's definitely Edwin.
[00:25:18] They just 100% kind of-
[00:25:21] And I didn't, that was a wait what,
[00:25:22] but they basically overplay their hand there.
[00:25:24] Like I would love a mystery where we should be able
[00:25:28] to put it together but can't.
[00:25:29] That's probably asking too much out of this show
[00:25:32] but that is easily still the best part.
[00:25:35] And if the resort wasn't around
[00:25:36] and it was just Elizabeth and Nathan
[00:25:39] like fast tracking their relationship
[00:25:43] then I would probably have a little bit more leeway
[00:25:46] for some of the rest of this stuff
[00:25:47] but when I only get eight minutes of murder mystery stuff
[00:25:51] and then I get 10 to 12 minutes of daycare, baseball,
[00:25:56] math, faith and this like
[00:26:00] and then I get 10 or 12 minutes of hotel resort
[00:26:04] and then I get Nathan Elizabeth that's like
[00:26:06] most like the vast majority of this
[00:26:09] is not working for me at all.
[00:26:11] I'll just say this, give me a mystery of the week
[00:26:16] with Bill Avery and Rosemary.
[00:26:18] Like Rosemary kind of meddling in it
[00:26:21] and try like that'd be gravy.
[00:26:23] If we wanna, if we would like, if they're interested-
[00:26:25] Just make a mystery wheel.
[00:26:26] If they're interested in this season
[00:26:28] being the last season when it calls to heart
[00:26:30] and then continuing like Bill,
[00:26:32] like Bill Avery's such a great character.
[00:26:34] He's a great character
[00:26:35] and him doing mystery stuff, primo.
[00:26:38] And his engagement with Rosemary in this episode, wonderful.
[00:26:42] When calls the murder, heart of crime.
[00:26:44] Heart of murder.
[00:26:45] Something like that.
[00:26:46] Ooh, yes, when calls the murder.
[00:26:48] This is great.
[00:26:49] Yeah, and they just moved to capital city
[00:26:51] and Kevin or Lee dies, they moved-
[00:26:54] We don't have to do that.
[00:26:55] They moved to capital city
[00:26:56] and they just-
[00:26:58] We're trying to pitch this show
[00:26:59] you can't start with Lee dies.
[00:27:01] Yeah, we do-
[00:27:02] I'm sorry, Lee moves to capital city
[00:27:05] and continues to do all the businesses he does.
[00:27:07] Yeah.
[00:27:08] Better?
[00:27:09] Great.
[00:27:10] It's fine.
[00:27:11] He finally follows-
[00:27:12] He's very much alive.
[00:27:13] He finally follows Rosemary
[00:27:15] for once in his gosh darn life.
[00:27:16] Yes, once in a few years.
[00:27:18] He finally like tries to be a supportive husband.
[00:27:20] That'd be crazy.
[00:27:21] It's time for all the fields
[00:27:22] where we talk about what in this episode
[00:27:24] gave us feels, Jax.
[00:27:28] So I know a lot of people
[00:27:31] are not really connecting with the May Mike situation.
[00:27:35] It does seem, to me it seems very pure
[00:27:38] and they don't really seem like grownups
[00:27:41] but to me that's okay.
[00:27:43] This is very sweet and innocent.
[00:27:44] How old do you think they are?
[00:27:47] So it's-
[00:27:48] God just slide into Bros and Bums DMs
[00:27:51] but for the love of good and-
[00:27:54] Are you kidding me right now, Jax?
[00:27:56] It's a mess over there.
[00:27:58] That storyline is a mess.
[00:28:02] Like here's the thing.
[00:28:06] And I actually, I wanna say this
[00:28:08] but I wanna make sure that I'm being respectful
[00:28:11] because I actually-
[00:28:12] So Dan, you'll be fine.
[00:28:14] You can say whatever you want to do.
[00:28:15] No, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:28:16] This actually isn't gonna be sexual.
[00:28:18] So a show that I've completely fallen in love with
[00:28:21] is Love on the Spectrum.
[00:28:23] I think it's such a beautiful show
[00:28:25] that it shows like just these heartwarming love stories
[00:28:31] that we don't traditionally get to see.
[00:28:32] And while I do not think that the characters of May and Mike
[00:28:37] are playing characters that are like neurodivergent
[00:28:39] or on the spectrum necessarily,
[00:28:42] there's parts of their relationship
[00:28:44] that are seeming just so pure and lovely to me
[00:28:47] and it's like, it's delightful for me to watch.
[00:28:50] And even when she knocked over the sugar,
[00:28:53] yeah, it's like this funny,
[00:28:55] like I knocked over something trope
[00:28:56] but it actually seemed really realistic
[00:28:58] and funny and adorable.
[00:29:00] And Ben Rosenbaum, yeah, you're right.
[00:29:07] And I do, I also love watching this show.
[00:29:09] You knew it was coming.
[00:29:10] I do love watching the show,
[00:29:12] picturing Aaron Craco as an executive producer
[00:29:15] and knowing if that's our partner being like,
[00:29:17] well, we don't need them to kiss in this one, right?
[00:29:20] It's funny.
[00:29:21] Like they're dating five months
[00:29:22] but we can just like kick the can on it.
[00:29:24] So they are part of my feels
[00:29:26] and of course, Jack Wagner, the entire thing.
[00:29:29] We've said, you know, not all there is to say
[00:29:32] cause we could go on, but he's a huge feel.
[00:29:34] And then I loved the way Aaron Craco played that moment
[00:29:39] when she came out of-
[00:29:41] That where her smile said otherwise?
[00:29:43] Yes.
[00:29:44] Her smile, yes, yes.
[00:29:45] Because instead of doing something
[00:29:46] and making a choice where she's like fanning herself
[00:29:49] or she's like, oh, impropriety,
[00:29:51] it was like, she was like, I'm thirsty.
[00:29:52] She does the classic, classic Craco.
[00:29:55] No one does it better than Craco.
[00:29:57] It's not funny.
[00:29:57] No one does it better than Craco.
[00:29:59] Mm-hmm.
[00:30:00] I love being in when calls to heart Facebook groups.
[00:30:06] It just is always fun.
[00:30:07] Tell me everything.
[00:30:08] And so I will read for you.
[00:30:11] Oh no.
[00:30:11] My favorite back and forth from the weekend.
[00:30:14] Margaret says, sad they have to have him shirtless
[00:30:18] to even compete with Lucas.
[00:30:20] Lucas was never shirtless to be sexy.
[00:30:24] Judith says, stop already, give it up.
[00:30:27] Patty says, just so you know,
[00:30:30] there's nothing Lucas could do that would make him sexy.
[00:30:34] He's hopeless.
[00:30:37] Gigi says, they're both very handsome, shirtless or not.
[00:30:40] Don't underestimate that they're both looking fabulous.
[00:30:44] And then Eleanor pipes in with,
[00:30:47] I always wonder what food had dripped onto his mangy beard.
[00:30:52] Yuck, disgusting.
[00:30:54] If L was so sexy, why would he have to buy E's love?
[00:30:59] And so I would just say, if you're not in the groups,
[00:31:03] it's a good time.
[00:31:04] I'm gonna use that as my field.
[00:31:05] I just kind of sit back, I read,
[00:31:09] and I have myself a good time because
[00:31:12] a lot of people have opinions and that's,
[00:31:16] and I knew once I saw shirtless,
[00:31:18] I said, I know where I'm going now to these groups.
[00:31:22] And that's just one of many conversations I've seen.
[00:31:25] Will you share that with me?
[00:31:27] I'm gonna look at that when I'm feeling low.
[00:31:30] It's a lot of fun.
[00:31:31] I love that so much.
[00:31:31] And I wanna just to PSA to all the hearties out there.
[00:31:34] If you were listening to that
[00:31:35] and felt strongly in favor of one comment or over another,
[00:31:41] you need to back off and not watch for a few weeks.
[00:31:43] Take a few moments off.
[00:31:46] That's that is a good time.
[00:31:48] Wait, wait, wait, wait, Dan, what about Gigi?
[00:31:49] Who said they both looked great shirtless or not?
[00:31:51] Gigi would be the one who's like, yes Gigi, you get it.
[00:31:56] But I just wanna say this.
[00:31:58] If you listen to our show and you go,
[00:32:01] feel like there being a little mean this week.
[00:32:03] Head on in to any of the Wickels,
[00:32:07] the Heart Facebook groups.
[00:32:08] Or the Brutal.
[00:32:09] Brutal out there.
[00:32:10] Listen to old when calls the heart episodes without Jacks.
[00:32:14] And you'll find that things get a little meaner
[00:32:17] without Jacks than with her.
[00:32:21] So there, you could do both of those things.
[00:32:24] Anybody that says we're especially mean this season.
[00:32:26] I'm like, did you listen to the season two episodes?
[00:32:28] Did you listen to those when we were in Hamilton?
[00:32:31] Did you miss all of those episodes?
[00:32:33] Are you sure?
[00:32:34] Okay, you say so.
[00:32:36] Carol says the thing is, is it was gross and nasty.
[00:32:41] Wasn't even attractive at all.
[00:32:43] Bones and skeleton, gross, yuck.
[00:32:47] Nathan needs to keep it all to himself.
[00:32:49] To which people remind them he was showering in his own house.
[00:32:53] But also Kevin McGarry unequivocally look great shirtless.
[00:33:00] Like you don't have to be team Nathan to be like,
[00:33:03] dude works out.
[00:33:04] Like right?
[00:33:05] Come on.
[00:33:07] I'm actually surprised they decided to go for that angle.
[00:33:11] What I would think they would have done,
[00:33:12] because yeah, it's absolutely like he looks great.
[00:33:15] He's in very good shape.
[00:33:16] I'm surprised they weren't saying like how improper it is
[00:33:19] and it's not a show like that.
[00:33:21] But I guess they were,
[00:33:22] they just really want to go for the jugular.
[00:33:24] Yeah, that's why I think faith is in Fiona or a thing.
[00:33:28] Why not?
[00:33:29] Luanne Luanne says shirtless enough.
[00:33:32] He's goofy.
[00:33:33] He's goofy.
[00:33:37] Was it a good goofy or bad goofy?
[00:33:38] Can you tell?
[00:33:39] I think it's bad.
[00:33:40] I think it's bad.
[00:33:41] I think it's bad.
[00:33:42] It's bad goofy to me.
[00:33:43] It's bad goofy.
[00:33:44] We're gonna take a quick break.
[00:33:45] We're going to come back.
[00:33:46] We're going to get to the way what's in the,
[00:33:47] what's called my heart here on deck the hallmark.
[00:33:59] Hello everybody.
[00:34:00] Welcome back where we're talking about
[00:34:02] the Winkals of Heart season 11 episode three.
[00:34:05] Time for the way what is where we're talking about
[00:34:07] one of this episode made us go away.
[00:34:07] What?
[00:34:08] Jax.
[00:34:10] So Dan, you very astutely mentioned this.
[00:34:14] I don't like at all.
[00:34:17] And I'm like, wait, is that what they're doing?
[00:34:19] That they're still kind of having this little bit
[00:34:21] of a love triangle thing.
[00:34:23] And I'm not seeing it from Lucas.
[00:34:25] But when Elizabeth is talking to Lucas
[00:34:27] and asking if she can walk with him,
[00:34:29] it's seeming very flirty.
[00:34:30] It's giving that vibe.
[00:34:32] And I say this as someone who has been like this
[00:34:36] to people that they have broken up with.
[00:34:38] Like she needs everyone to like her.
[00:34:40] And it's like, you just kind of have to give him,
[00:34:43] like you can be cordial, you can be nice,
[00:34:45] eventually can be friends,
[00:34:46] but I just feel like she's still trying
[00:34:48] and graciating herself and get,
[00:34:51] you know, attention from him.
[00:34:52] And I don't like it.
[00:34:54] Please don't do it anymore.
[00:34:56] Stop.
[00:34:57] When he walks away after their talk,
[00:34:59] their walk and talk,
[00:35:00] she has this smile on her face.
[00:35:02] Like, I just listen guys,
[00:35:06] it's been going on since season six.
[00:35:08] It's season 11.
[00:35:09] You double crosses twice.
[00:35:10] It's a double, double cross.
[00:35:12] Stop.
[00:35:13] She said she doesn't like him.
[00:35:14] She said, I just don't feel the same way about Lucas.
[00:35:18] Not in this episode.
[00:35:19] No, I know, I know.
[00:35:20] I'm just saying we end in the scene.
[00:35:21] We've done all this with Nathan, Brandon.
[00:35:22] We've done all this with Nathan.
[00:35:24] We've done all this.
[00:35:24] Don't act like you can come to me
[00:35:26] with quotes from Elizabeth.
[00:35:27] Everett, stop!
[00:35:28] Are you kidding me right now?
[00:35:30] Did you try to quote the show at me?
[00:35:31] I tried.
[00:35:32] We did all this with Nathan.
[00:35:33] I know.
[00:35:34] Okay.
[00:35:35] All I'm saying is.
[00:35:36] So, I'm just saying she's given him eyes.
[00:35:38] Right.
[00:35:39] This is where we started last year
[00:35:41] when she was engaged with Lucas
[00:35:43] and look where we at.
[00:35:44] Okay, but really quickly.
[00:35:46] Yes, yes, to your point, sure.
[00:35:48] But they basically demanded she makes a choice.
[00:35:52] She made a choice.
[00:35:53] And at the end of last season,
[00:35:54] she said, never really felt the way.
[00:35:58] I never really felt it.
[00:35:59] So either you never really felt it
[00:36:02] or you are still feeling it.
[00:36:05] You're because.
[00:36:05] You've decided that's the line when the show was like,
[00:36:08] yes, I've actually told the truth the whole time.
[00:36:10] I think that for what it's worth,
[00:36:13] they did force her into a corner
[00:36:15] and said, you gotta make a choice.
[00:36:17] She made a choice.
[00:36:18] Who is they?
[00:36:19] They collectively.
[00:36:20] Who?
[00:36:21] I don't know.
[00:36:22] It felt like, hey, you gotta pick one.
[00:36:23] She took three seasons.
[00:36:24] I know.
[00:36:25] And it was too much.
[00:36:26] And they said.
[00:36:27] And then they were together for two seasons.
[00:36:28] They was like, hey, make your pick.
[00:36:31] Five seasons in television.
[00:36:33] That's like a lifetime.
[00:36:34] All I'm saying is you don't even believe you're the first.
[00:36:37] She ended the season by.
[00:36:39] I'm not, I'm saying I'm with you.
[00:36:41] It's dove.
[00:36:42] I'm with you.
[00:36:43] You can't do it.
[00:36:44] You can't do this again.
[00:36:46] She said, I don't feel that way.
[00:36:50] I never have.
[00:36:53] We did it.
[00:36:54] I know what's louder in the camp of, hey, we're here now.
[00:37:00] Let's, let's, let's kiss.
[00:37:03] Let's get engaged.
[00:37:04] Let's get married this season.
[00:37:06] Let's do it this season.
[00:37:07] Let's do it this season.
[00:37:09] The best version of what we can do right now
[00:37:11] with this show is hope that it's over.
[00:37:13] And to the fan, to the Lucas fans out there,
[00:37:18] you don't want Elizabeth anymore, right?
[00:37:21] Like you're mad.
[00:37:22] You're mad.
[00:37:23] So you can't, you, they cannot flip back.
[00:37:26] They just came the Nathan fans were mad, right?
[00:37:28] Yeah, but they give it a proper amount of time.
[00:37:30] You can't do it this season.
[00:37:32] That's the proper amount of time.
[00:37:33] You can't do it this season.
[00:37:34] If she's engaged to Nathan,
[00:37:37] is Lucas back on the table for her?
[00:37:39] They would consider it a win at that point.
[00:37:40] Okay.
[00:37:40] All right.
[00:37:45] Right.
[00:37:46] What a mess.
[00:37:46] You did.
[00:37:47] Do you disagree?
[00:37:48] If we wait a season, they'd be like, okay.
[00:37:51] Yeah, she came to our senses.
[00:37:53] The only thing you're saying makes sense
[00:37:55] because of how bad the show is.
[00:37:56] The only reason I disagree is you're just making,
[00:37:58] like you're just using the calendar
[00:38:02] that the show has used to make sense.
[00:38:06] I'm in this universe.
[00:38:09] And you're trying to make sense of what they're doing.
[00:38:11] I'm in this universe.
[00:38:13] Yeah.
[00:38:13] Yep.
[00:38:13] We all are.
[00:38:14] Okay.
[00:38:15] Do you have other way?
[00:38:16] What's Jack?
[00:38:16] Sorry.
[00:38:18] No, I'm going to leave it to you gentlemen.
[00:38:20] I think you're going to have quite a few.
[00:38:21] Yeah.
[00:38:22] That was the big one though.
[00:38:23] Like what are we doing there?
[00:38:24] What are we doing?
[00:38:26] The episode does start with Bill on the ground looking at rocks.
[00:38:33] And like then he runs over and then he comes over
[00:38:35] and he picks up the manhole thing.
[00:38:38] But I'm not entirely sure why he was on the ground
[00:38:40] looking at the rocks.
[00:38:41] Because it's five months later.
[00:38:43] There's no way there could be footprints or tire tracks
[00:38:46] or anything there.
[00:38:47] There is literally no reason why he should be looking at it.
[00:38:49] It did the job.
[00:38:50] It immediately drew me in.
[00:38:51] I was immediately like, what's this guy up to?
[00:38:53] But we don't know why.
[00:38:54] But I'm not entirely sure why he really got on.
[00:38:55] I'm sure someone who's a big Winkals heart fan
[00:38:57] could help us there.
[00:38:58] But we don't know why he was ear to the ground.
[00:39:01] Ear to the ground.
[00:39:02] Five months after a crime scene had happened in 1919.
[00:39:07] I understand that the two kids are mad at each other.
[00:39:10] But she left without eating any of her food.
[00:39:12] And I do like at least the guy with the boy,
[00:39:16] who I forget his name now, it's
[00:39:19] what are their names?
[00:39:20] I wrote it down here.
[00:39:22] Cooper and Angela.
[00:39:24] Cooper at least says I'm taking my plate
[00:39:26] and I'm going to go eat.
[00:39:27] Angela's like, I'm done.
[00:39:28] I don't even want to be here.
[00:39:30] I'm going to go hang out with Ali.
[00:39:34] Any good parent would go, hey, hold on.
[00:39:36] You haven't even touched your dinner yet, right?
[00:39:39] Like you got to at least touch it, right?
[00:39:42] Right?
[00:39:43] Yeah.
[00:39:44] Yeah.
[00:39:44] Well, yeah, you just have to,
[00:39:46] my rule is that you have to eat in your food.
[00:39:47] You just can't be excused until you've asked to be.
[00:39:50] She just do stuff, but you want,
[00:39:51] if just cause she's mad,
[00:39:53] you just cause your kids mad,
[00:39:55] you're going to let them leave the table
[00:39:56] without touching the food.
[00:39:58] Yeah, that's tough.
[00:39:58] It's tough.
[00:39:59] It's tough.
[00:40:02] I'll save that part for the...
[00:40:04] Poop some valleys.
[00:40:06] I did get a kick out of the fact
[00:40:08] that two cars drive into the woods.
[00:40:12] None of them carrying the governor
[00:40:13] who's having a hard time walking.
[00:40:15] He had to walk.
[00:40:16] They've made him say, hey,
[00:40:17] can you go talk to Elizabeth?
[00:40:19] Then we'll pick you up.
[00:40:21] They could have done that.
[00:40:22] They could have done that,
[00:40:22] but no, they said, go talk to Elizabeth
[00:40:24] and then meet us out in the woods
[00:40:25] and you just kind of hobble your way there.
[00:40:27] Well, if you could just hobble it,
[00:40:30] hobble it, it'll be really, really good for us.
[00:40:32] You're just the governor.
[00:40:33] You're not that important.
[00:40:35] You just hobble your way out there.
[00:40:36] Dana?
[00:40:37] You remember last episode
[00:40:39] when Lee Coulter convinced his wife
[00:40:42] that they should acquire a new business?
[00:40:44] One, because he can make poor Hickam work
[00:40:47] at the whole time and they would make all the money
[00:40:49] because capitalism.
[00:40:50] And two, that that extra company
[00:40:53] would require less of their time.
[00:40:55] It takes less than one episode
[00:40:58] for Lee to be manning the bar at the Queen of Hearts.
[00:41:01] He is there.
[00:41:02] He's scrubbing tables.
[00:41:04] He's tending bar.
[00:41:05] He's lending an ear.
[00:41:07] It took under one episode.
[00:41:10] What is he doing?
[00:41:13] It's during the day.
[00:41:14] He runs a lumber company and kind of a newspaper.
[00:41:17] You can't just be there.
[00:41:19] You can't just be there and do that.
[00:41:21] But Hickam needs to go on a day date.
[00:41:23] Yeah, exactly.
[00:41:24] So I'm just saying maybe it's gonna add
[00:41:27] a little bit more time.
[00:41:28] This one dude is complaining about Lucas,
[00:41:30] how he doesn't really listen to us.
[00:41:32] And Kevin Smith Lee Coulter says,
[00:41:35] you don't think that Lucas has everyone's
[00:41:37] best interest at heart?
[00:41:38] That's impossible.
[00:41:40] It's impossible to have everyone's best interest at heart.
[00:41:43] It just is.
[00:41:44] That's just how life and math work.
[00:41:47] The angriest I got in this episode
[00:41:49] was at our no man.
[00:41:50] Elizabeth.
[00:41:51] Elizabeth goes to, I believe Rosemary and says,
[00:41:55] why didn't Lucas tell me he was coming back?
[00:41:58] She's angry about that.
[00:42:00] Yeah.
[00:42:01] Lady, you told him
[00:42:04] that you never really felt anything for him ever.
[00:42:09] That's what you said.
[00:42:11] You don't get his itinerary.
[00:42:13] You know what, what is that?
[00:42:16] Thank you.
[00:42:17] You broke up with the governor.
[00:42:20] You said you were supposed to marry this guy.
[00:42:24] You said, you know what, it turns out
[00:42:25] I never really loved you.
[00:42:28] And now you're mad?
[00:42:30] He didn't send a memo telling you
[00:42:33] when he was coming to town?
[00:42:36] Get bent.
[00:42:37] Are you kidding me right now?
[00:42:39] Are you kidding me?
[00:42:41] No, no.
[00:42:44] Stop it.
[00:42:46] Get some help.
[00:42:48] I'm sorry.
[00:42:49] Got a lot of hand.
[00:42:51] The importance of good journalism
[00:42:55] is important that we all know it.
[00:42:57] And none other than when calls the heart
[00:42:59] apparently he's gonna teach us that lesson this week
[00:43:01] which is just crazy to me.
[00:43:04] When calls the heart decides
[00:43:06] to teach us a lesson about like printing the facts
[00:43:09] even when the facts don't favor you
[00:43:11] or help your monetary outcome.
[00:43:14] And I just didn't see it coming
[00:43:17] from Hope Valley taking that stance.
[00:43:19] A reminder that leaves the worst.
[00:43:21] That's right.
[00:43:22] Yeah, a weekly reminder.
[00:43:24] And then lastly, Nathan decides to bring Scout
[00:43:27] his dog over to Elizabeth's house.
[00:43:31] And he's working on training out in the yard
[00:43:33] until she comes out and he's doing sit
[00:43:35] and different types of sit.
[00:43:37] Also Scout just will is so trained
[00:43:40] that he'll just be complete.
[00:43:41] He can do statue, which I didn't know was a command.
[00:43:43] Scout can stay completely still and stare
[00:43:45] at what is clearly a treat off screen
[00:43:47] whenever you want him to.
[00:43:48] And then he runs when he sees Elizabeth
[00:43:51] and Elizabeth's like still working on that training, huh?
[00:43:53] And Nathan looked disappointingly is like
[00:43:56] he's a work in progress.
[00:43:58] Scout is the best boy.
[00:44:01] He's literally the best boy.
[00:44:03] He's done everything you ask him to do.
[00:44:06] First of all, how dare you?
[00:44:08] How dare you?
[00:44:09] This dog is so trained and is there all the time.
[00:44:13] And if he knew you were talking about him like this,
[00:44:16] he'd run away.
[00:44:17] That is unbelievable.
[00:44:18] He's such a trained dog.
[00:44:19] How dare you?
[00:44:20] How dare you talk about Scout like that?
[00:44:22] That's all I got.
[00:44:23] Did you say get bent?
[00:44:25] I did.
[00:44:26] Maybe edit it out.
[00:44:27] I don't know.
[00:44:28] Oh, wow.
[00:44:29] I was trying to think of a not four letter word.
[00:44:32] Get bent.
[00:44:34] It's time for a disagree here.
[00:44:37] Anybody disagree?
[00:44:38] No, okay.
[00:44:39] I'm right with you.
[00:44:40] You didn't call another person of skeleton today.
[00:44:43] So I think you're doing pretty good.
[00:44:46] It's time for a hopes and valleys.
[00:44:49] Where we talk about the things that maybe we're
[00:44:53] bringing us some joy about the maybe bumming us out
[00:44:55] either one.
[00:44:57] Jacks.
[00:44:59] I'm going to say two hopes.
[00:45:01] One, which will be very unpopular.
[00:45:04] I'm excited about the state care center.
[00:45:07] Oh.
[00:45:07] What's going to happen there?
[00:45:08] I'm excited to see.
[00:45:09] I don't know if you noticed,
[00:45:11] I didn't make the cut.
[00:45:12] For me, it didn't make the cut.
[00:45:17] And it is probably between the mask and gallon
[00:45:19] and the scenes with the guys,
[00:45:21] probably five or seven minutes worth of screen time.
[00:45:23] That was so cute.
[00:45:24] Lily is so cute.
[00:45:25] And I'm excited to see everyone volunteering there.
[00:45:28] Like, why not?
[00:45:29] I mean, yes, is this show already over stuff
[00:45:32] with too many characters and plot lines?
[00:45:34] Sure.
[00:45:35] But this looks cute.
[00:45:36] I've never seen a,
[00:45:38] we need something for Henry Gowen to do more than
[00:45:40] what if he builds him a daycare or lets him use the space?
[00:45:45] He's like stroming a guitar.
[00:45:47] Who is the guy that killed all of our husbands?
[00:45:50] What if we got, what's his name?
[00:45:54] He killed all of our husbands.
[00:45:55] All of our sons, some of our sons.
[00:45:57] What if we got the guy that killed our husbands and sons
[00:46:02] to, what can we do?
[00:46:05] Maybe, you know the guy responsible
[00:46:07] for the forgive me, Pa situation?
[00:46:09] I'm not kidding you Pa.
[00:46:11] What if he just tried to take care of us?
[00:46:15] Listen, that's the beauty of forgiveness.
[00:46:18] It's the beauty of forgiveness.
[00:46:19] There's no testimony without test.
[00:46:20] Am I right?
[00:46:21] Give me Pa.
[00:46:23] Forgive me Pa.
[00:46:24] There's no center for minors without a killer for minors.
[00:46:26] Am I right?
[00:46:27] Stop, stop.
[00:46:29] Way down town, bang!
[00:46:33] Oh, I haven't thought about that
[00:46:36] but give me Pa in a long time.
[00:46:37] Thank you, Bran, for bringing it back.
[00:46:39] You're a wife.
[00:46:41] What's her thoughts on minors and-
[00:46:45] She thinks that all mine deaths are hope.
[00:46:47] You know that?
[00:46:49] Jackson, that.
[00:46:52] We are both big coal mine deaths folks, people.
[00:46:58] Like we both, we feel so strongly about it.
[00:47:03] That's where I propose.
[00:47:06] You know that right?
[00:47:07] I know that.
[00:47:08] Jackson knows that of course.
[00:47:10] Yeah, of course.
[00:47:12] So they, listen I know, you know,
[00:47:15] Jackson said the show's a little over stuffed.
[00:47:17] I've made a point about it.
[00:47:20] I do have a bit of a concern.
[00:47:22] They do a thing here where they set up,
[00:47:26] that Joseph has a story with his brother.
[00:47:30] They already did this with Rosemary.
[00:47:32] She had a sister out of nowhere.
[00:47:35] My concern is we're never gonna hear about it again.
[00:47:38] That it was just a,
[00:47:40] hey, I have a brother you don't know about him.
[00:47:44] We haven't talked and then that's gonna be the end.
[00:47:46] I would like to see,
[00:47:49] I know I'm going against myself here
[00:47:51] because I don't want anything else.
[00:47:52] It's over stuff.
[00:47:53] Bring in a brother.
[00:47:56] I'm now a champion of the Viv Leecock fan club
[00:48:01] and I just want more Viv on screen.
[00:48:03] And so give me a story arc of him
[00:48:07] going to patch things up with his brother.
[00:48:08] Like, hey kids, you guys patching things up
[00:48:11] has inspired me to take my own advice
[00:48:14] and go make things right with my brother.
[00:48:16] It's like we're trading for the rankings.
[00:48:18] I would be willing to take out daycare stuff
[00:48:21] and Hickam May Sue stuff for that.
[00:48:24] Yes, I would be willing to do that.
[00:48:25] That would be nice though, right?
[00:48:26] Him making things right with his brother?
[00:48:28] Jackson.
[00:48:29] No, no, no, I agree.
[00:48:30] I agree that would, no, that would be,
[00:48:31] I guess guys, we do need those 22 episodes
[00:48:34] to get in everything that we're all asking.
[00:48:36] We're all asking for too much.
[00:48:37] What we're asking for is more when calls the heart.
[00:48:39] I think that's very clear.
[00:48:41] This is very clear here.
[00:48:42] How are you doing?
[00:48:43] Yeah, last week on Friday,
[00:48:45] we got to interview Pascal Hutton.
[00:48:46] She was lovely and a joy.
[00:48:49] And I hope she comes back on the show.
[00:48:51] She was so wonderful.
[00:48:52] And she did, it was,
[00:48:54] I can't believe she let this slip out,
[00:48:56] but did kind of confirm that Nathan
[00:48:59] did try to kill Lucas.
[00:49:02] And so I thought we'd not say anything,
[00:49:05] but then I was like, you know what,
[00:49:06] let's talk about it.
[00:49:07] For my hope in Valley,
[00:49:09] I'm just going to flow it out that that's still a possibility.
[00:49:12] It's a theory.
[00:49:13] It's out there that he, look,
[00:49:16] Lucas looks at the person that shot Lucas,
[00:49:19] can't be that guy in jail because Lucas knows him,
[00:49:23] looks at him and goes, what are you doing here?
[00:49:28] Okay.
[00:49:29] So I'm just saying he's a Mountie.
[00:49:35] He shoots him.
[00:49:37] He's clearly a terrible shot because he misses his leg.
[00:49:41] Then he falls, then he gets on the case
[00:49:45] to solve it and get back to Valley and Elizabeth.
[00:49:51] So Pascal Hutton did kind of confirm it.
[00:49:54] I'm running with it.
[00:49:56] She did not confirm it.
[00:49:58] Nathan shot Lucas.
[00:50:01] Pascal did, Pascal,
[00:50:02] I put words in her mouth.
[00:50:03] She did not confirm it, but she did laugh.
[00:50:06] She didn't deny it.
[00:50:08] She didn't say no.
[00:50:09] She didn't say no.
[00:50:10] So last year my big theory was Nathan,
[00:50:13] Elizabeth's going to leave Lucas and go with Nathan.
[00:50:15] You guys were like, no, that's ridiculous.
[00:50:17] That's crazy.
[00:50:18] My big theory this year, Nathan shot Lucas.
[00:50:22] Why stop there though?
[00:50:23] Nathan shot.
[00:50:24] What if, what if, what if Elizabeth
[00:50:28] and Nathan put it together?
[00:50:31] Elizabeth and Nathan did it together?
[00:50:34] I don't know.
[00:50:35] That's crazy.
[00:50:37] No, I could totally see it.
[00:50:39] I could totally see Nathan.
[00:50:40] Now Nathan's out there just being shirtless
[00:50:43] in his own house.
[00:50:44] Like he's got the confidence of somebody who shot him man.
[00:50:47] That's all I'm saying.
[00:50:48] And then we'll do it again.
[00:50:50] And we'll do it again if push came to shove.
[00:50:52] Do we have a what's calling my heart, Dana?
[00:50:54] Where people can email in hellodeckthehomer.com
[00:50:56] and tell us what they're digging.
[00:50:58] What's calling their hearts?
[00:50:59] This is from Hilary Kovacs.
[00:51:00] Hi, Hilary.
[00:51:02] Jacks, Bran and Dan.
[00:51:04] Hi there.
[00:51:05] Here's to another season of when calls the heart.
[00:51:07] This has certainly been said before,
[00:51:08] but can't be said enough.
[00:51:09] My heart is constantly being called by movie
[00:51:12] and show chats with the double-deckers.
[00:51:14] There is no other group I would rather get through
[00:51:16] the ups and downs of all the Hallmark content
[00:51:19] and also just a bunch of life ups and downs as well
[00:51:22] with then the DD fam.
[00:51:24] And honestly, the best way to make it through
[00:51:26] another season of when calls the heart
[00:51:28] is to do it with this crew here.
[00:51:30] Thanks always for the fun, double-deckers,
[00:51:33] and thanks to the three of you too, I guess, Hilary.
[00:51:36] Now, Hilary, if you're watching on the radio,
[00:51:38] I did yawn during that.
[00:51:40] That's not you.
[00:51:41] That was very sweet.
[00:51:42] Wow.
[00:51:43] That was very, so this has been a long day.
[00:51:45] Yeah.
[00:51:46] I just want to put it,
[00:51:47] I didn't want people to think that it was a yawn.
[00:51:52] I thought your email was wonderful
[00:51:53] and the long day was made better because of it.
[00:51:54] It actually was the nail in the coffin for Bran though.
[00:51:57] It was on the more boring side, but like sweets.
[00:52:02] It was sweet boring.
[00:52:03] It was sweet boring.
[00:52:05] What are you doing?
[00:52:06] I'm kidding, it was amazing.
[00:52:07] We love you, Hilary.
[00:52:08] Don't listen to Bran.
[00:52:10] Jax, tell people how they can find ya.
[00:52:12] Ha ha ha ha ha!
[00:52:13] Ha ha ha ha!
[00:52:15] Are we doing that again?
[00:52:17] Are you, what are you promoting this week, Jax?
[00:52:19] What are you promoting?
[00:52:20] Promote whatever you want to.
[00:52:21] I don't see any sequins or sparkles
[00:52:22] or vibrators anywhere.
[00:52:23] What do you got?
[00:52:25] My dad's 83rd birthday.
[00:52:26] Happy birthday.
[00:52:28] For he's a jolly Japan!
[00:52:31] We'll be back next week very Christmas.
[00:52:33] Deck the Hallmark is a Brable Jam podcast
[00:52:34] is produced by Aaron Shea.
[00:52:36] For more information on Deck the Hallmark
[00:52:38] you can go to deckthehallmark.com.
[00:52:40] For more information on the Deck the Hallmark family
[00:52:42] you can go to brablejamplus.com.
[00:52:43] Deck the Hallmark is presented by Philo TV
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[00:52:47] Go to Philo.tv slash DTH.
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[00:53:01] Thanks for listening or don't listen.
[00:53:03] It's really up to you at this point.
[00:53:05] Is that the end of the show?
[00:53:07] I mean, you're listening to me, hi.
[00:53:09] But here they come.
[00:53:10] I promise they're coming.
[00:53:11] Yep, here they are.
[00:53:13] Happy day.