Yan-Kay Crystal Lowe (Shifting Gears - HC 2024)

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[00:01:12] It's a very exciting brand for a number of reasons.

[00:01:14] Give me them.

[00:01:15] Well, number them.

[00:01:16] I mean, the postables out there have been asking for, that's producer, Aaron's, but when

[00:01:18] we raise our hands both hands in the air.

[00:01:22] Place hands.

[00:01:23] Price hands.

[00:01:24] You know, we've had a few members of the Science of the Livercast on but we not have

[00:01:27] Krystal.

[00:01:28] On time coming.

[00:01:29] Also, Krystal's direction in the new movie.

[00:01:31] Come on, that's so exciting.

[00:01:32] Thirdly, I talked with Crystal at Rama drama.

[00:01:35] Yes.

[00:01:36] All the way back in 2022.

[00:01:38] And this is a fulfillment of an agreement

[00:01:40] that we made which was you're gonna be on our podcast

[00:01:43] and we finally did it.

[00:01:44] She had a long rider, Crystal was like,

[00:01:46] I have this huge rider about what has to happen

[00:01:48] for our coming, but we finally made it happen.

[00:01:50] Crystal, thank you so much for joining us here

[00:01:52] on deck the hallmark.

[00:01:53] Thank you for finally sending the reindeer.

[00:01:55] Yes.

[00:01:56] I have been waiting for a year and a half.

[00:01:57] It was a reindeer, a squirrel.

[00:01:59] She did, yes.

[00:01:59] Very specific.

[00:02:00] You could find one, but it was the plural that we had

[00:02:03] a hard time with.

[00:02:04] That's right.

[00:02:05] I hope that you have fun with them.

[00:02:08] Yeah.

[00:02:09] I don't know what do you say about it?

[00:02:11] What do you say about it?

[00:02:12] The reindeer were just delivering Fiji water, bruh.

[00:02:14] And I was like, she didn't want a pet reindeer.

[00:02:16] She just got it.

[00:02:17] It's the waters untouched by human hands

[00:02:19] and delivers undelivered by humans.

[00:02:21] And you had them deliver something to you,

[00:02:23] apparently.

[00:02:23] Of course, of course, yes, of course.

[00:02:25] You're not sponsored by Fiji water.

[00:02:26] That's right.

[00:02:27] We're not at all.

[00:02:28] There's free ass.

[00:02:29] Not yet.

[00:02:30] Good.

[00:02:31] Wood take it out would actually really help us financially.

[00:02:35] Love for us, yes, because, you know, Crystal.

[00:02:39] Thank you so much for joining us.

[00:02:40] This is very exciting for us.

[00:02:42] I always love going back to the beginning

[00:02:45] and hearing how someone got the creative itch

[00:02:48] to get into acting in your case now acting

[00:02:52] and directing which we're excited to get into.

[00:02:54] But let's go back to the beginning.

[00:02:55] Where'd you grow up?

[00:02:56] And when did you first kind of get this desire

[00:02:59] to start acting?

[00:03:01] Oh my God, you guys asking me about myself

[00:03:03] and starting at the beginning and letting me talk

[00:03:05] to myself this whole time.

[00:03:06] Like a dream come true.

[00:03:07] You're welcome.

[00:03:08] We're not going to interrupt a lot.

[00:03:09] Don't worry.

[00:03:10] All right.

[00:03:11] All right.

[00:03:11] At least I'm proud of what I'm doing.

[00:03:14] You know, I have been professionally doing this

[00:03:15] for almost 30 years.

[00:03:17] Isn't that insane?

[00:03:18] Which is super weird.

[00:03:18] Obviously, guys, look at me.

[00:03:20] I'm like 20.

[00:03:21] Yeah.

[00:03:21] So when are you negative old?

[00:03:23] Negative old?

[00:03:24] Yeah.

[00:03:25] In the belly.

[00:03:26] I was like the spotlights came on into me.

[00:03:28] What am I supposed to do?

[00:03:29] I started acting when I was 15 in Vancouver, Canada.

[00:03:34] That's where I'm born and raised.

[00:03:36] And I also lived in Hong Kong for a couple of years.

[00:03:38] I'm half Chinese in Scottish.

[00:03:40] And so I was trying to do acting over there a little bit.

[00:03:43] And then when I came back, basically,

[00:03:46] I really mean this.

[00:03:47] Like I was like five, I think.

[00:03:49] I got in that first church play stood on stage

[00:03:52] and was like, oh wait a minute.

[00:03:54] What?

[00:03:55] Everybody just told me how fun I was.

[00:03:58] I was like, this is amazing.

[00:04:00] I want to do this forever.

[00:04:01] And so that's really where the bugs started.

[00:04:03] And then at 15, I went back much to my mother's dismay.

[00:04:07] And then she said look, if you really, really want this,

[00:04:10] you can drive yourself to auditions.

[00:04:12] Then you can all let you do it.

[00:04:14] And so that's where it kind of began.

[00:04:16] And I haven't stopped.

[00:04:18] Did you win Mom over?

[00:04:20] Did Mom get on board after you became?

[00:04:22] Like was there a point where you're like, look,

[00:04:24] I'm in this thing.

[00:04:26] Like come on.

[00:04:28] My mom is the most supportive person on the planet,

[00:04:30] the most supportive human period.

[00:04:32] I mean, I can say that I want to do any job.

[00:04:37] And she would have been like, yeah,

[00:04:38] that's a great job to do.

[00:04:39] But then I had to fully commit to it.

[00:04:42] She's an English professor and like a genius

[00:04:45] and written all these books.

[00:04:46] She could care less about the film in this,

[00:04:49] like in terms of your looks and all that stuff.

[00:04:52] So that was really foreign to her.

[00:04:53] She's under the impression that your body

[00:04:55] is just there to carry your brain around.

[00:04:58] And so she's like, I don't really understand this whole thing.

[00:05:01] So that was a little bit weird for her mind around.

[00:05:04] But she's been pushing me for years.

[00:05:07] My whole family, I'm super lucky.

[00:05:08] I've been with supportive group in everything I do.

[00:05:13] And I just had to change my mind about things.

[00:05:15] Constantly.

[00:05:15] Well, that's what makes you a great director

[00:05:17] is you get to make the calls, right?

[00:05:19] That's the whole bit.

[00:05:21] Yeah, yeah.

[00:05:22] It's very bossy and I love it.

[00:05:24] It's part of my my my my my.

[00:05:25] Now before driving yourself to these auditions,

[00:05:28] did you did you go to any acting classes?

[00:05:31] How are you kind of getting yourself ready to say,

[00:05:34] all right, I'm ready for auditioning now.

[00:05:36] Or did it where you just like, oh, it's time.

[00:05:38] I'm 15.

[00:05:39] It's time.

[00:05:41] I am.

[00:05:42] Well, you know what's funny is I don't know if you guys know

[00:05:43] there's an acronym, Tyler LeBean.

[00:05:45] And if you look Tyler up, you know him.

[00:05:48] If you see him, you'll be like, oh, I know who he is.

[00:05:49] He's a new after-dem.

[00:05:50] He's been in like everything you could possibly imagine.

[00:05:53] You guys have been working for years.

[00:05:54] His mom was like a manager.

[00:05:56] And so she saw me in a play and said she would try

[00:05:59] to get me reps.

[00:06:01] And she did.

[00:06:01] She signed me with the agent that I've

[00:06:02] been with for like 20, my entire career.

[00:06:05] I had like 26 years.

[00:06:06] Oh, yeah.

[00:06:07] Tyler LeBean has been in everything.

[00:06:08] I just got word sorry.

[00:06:09] He has.

[00:06:10] He literally everything.

[00:06:11] Oh, I know that guy.

[00:06:12] Yeah.

[00:06:13] Yeah.

[00:06:13] Everybody knows him.

[00:06:14] Like he's been around for years.

[00:06:16] So he was coaching me a little bit because we were

[00:06:18] like the same age.

[00:06:18] So we would do plays together.

[00:06:20] And he would kind of coach me.

[00:06:21] But I didn't start studying till I was like more in my early

[00:06:27] 20s.

[00:06:28] And then most of my career in the beginning

[00:06:30] was all sci-fi horror films.

[00:06:32] That was really where I kind of lived that genre.

[00:06:35] And then I am a person that once I feel like I'm not growing,

[00:06:40] I will have to throw myself off a cliff

[00:06:43] and try to do something different.

[00:06:45] So I was like, no, I want to do something that scares me

[00:06:49] every day.

[00:06:50] I want to get a job that freaks me out.

[00:06:52] And then I auditioned for SideSeal.

[00:06:54] It was like, I'm not fucking this stuff.

[00:06:57] The weirdest thing I've ever played this in my life.

[00:07:01] Yeah.

[00:07:02] And that really pushed me to try to study more.

[00:07:06] I was trying to really embrace the comedy aspect

[00:07:09] because I'm obsessed with comedy now.

[00:07:11] I just didn't know that I could do that.

[00:07:13] So your Wikipedia page says that you're a scream queen.

[00:07:17] Do you get an appendent in the mail?

[00:07:19] How many times do you need to scream in order to be called?

[00:07:24] Like you're officially a scream queen.

[00:07:27] Guys, until you die in a tanning bed for a delight,

[00:07:30] you're not a scream queen.

[00:07:31] Is that the best death?

[00:07:32] Is that the best one on screen for Crystal?

[00:07:35] Sure.

[00:07:36] Yeah, for sure.

[00:07:37] And then in Units Funny, I just saw Glenn Morgan,

[00:07:39] who was the director of that.

[00:07:40] He's become my mentor now.

[00:07:42] And I just saw him the other day.

[00:07:44] And you know what he wanted to do?

[00:07:45] He wanted to walk around through the Hollywood cemetery.

[00:07:48] So I was like, this is so weird and morbid.

[00:07:51] Why do you want to do this?

[00:07:52] But it was actually super cool.

[00:07:54] He walked around and showed me all the old movie stars

[00:07:56] and talked about silent film.

[00:07:58] And it was amazing.

[00:08:00] I love it.

[00:08:01] But that guy loves horror.

[00:08:02] This is genre.

[00:08:03] What's the key to a good death or a good dying sequence?

[00:08:07] And how did you perfect it?

[00:08:10] Like you're obviously your queen at this point.

[00:08:12] How did you get to the point where you're like,

[00:08:15] yeah, I can die any number of ways.

[00:08:18] And it'll be great.

[00:08:19] Yeah.

[00:08:20] Yeah, yeah.

[00:08:21] I don't know that I ever practiced for those.

[00:08:24] I don't know.

[00:08:24] I never thought about it.

[00:08:25] It was just running and screaming.

[00:08:27] And you know, at some point people

[00:08:30] always ask about Final Destination

[00:08:31] because I wrote a roller coaster.

[00:08:33] We died on the roller coaster.

[00:08:34] And then we died in Candy Band.

[00:08:35] That roller coaster was like, I think we wrote it like 36 times.

[00:08:38] I might not.

[00:08:39] By the time.

[00:08:40] And they would just yell out, like, you're scared now.

[00:08:43] And you're happy now.

[00:08:45] And you're like, you're not having,

[00:08:47] and by the end of it, I was like, man, all my faces are the same.

[00:08:50] I have wrote this roller coaster so many times.

[00:08:53] I can't do any other face.

[00:08:55] The tears are like stained on me.

[00:08:57] You guys just get a figure out of this.

[00:08:59] That's a day.

[00:09:00] 36 times on a roller coaster.

[00:09:02] Yeah, maybe I'm exaggerating, but it was around there.

[00:09:05] It was a lot.

[00:09:05] Listen, you'll have to write too.

[00:09:07] If it's more than a half dozen,

[00:09:08] I feel like at that point, you say whatever number you want.

[00:09:10] Yeah, but do you lose your voice after so many screams?

[00:09:14] I would imagine.

[00:09:16] Yeah, yeah.

[00:09:17] You lose your voice.

[00:09:18] I was covered in bruises because the tanning bed,

[00:09:20] like they would put it, they put the glass here, right?

[00:09:22] So you're like smashing the glass and they remove the glass

[00:09:25] and they shoot over you.

[00:09:26] So you're not.

[00:09:27] And you know, you want to do a cool story

[00:09:28] which I think I've told before.

[00:09:30] So I'm sorry, it's not new.

[00:09:31] But try, I guess, I guess.

[00:09:35] We sit reindeer with theg in your getting stories.

[00:09:38] You're so close.

[00:09:38] I tell you, you get a whole story.

[00:09:41] They lit our stunt doubles on fire, right?

[00:09:45] Like actually lit the fire.

[00:09:46] So they lit the one fire for like three seconds

[00:09:49] and somebody's just there with, you know,

[00:09:51] an extinguished blood.

[00:09:53] And I found out that that burn gel

[00:09:56] that they were using had like just been invented

[00:09:59] in one of their stunt guys' basements.

[00:10:02] Now granted that kid his dad is like a huge stunt guy

[00:10:05] around the, he's been around.

[00:10:06] But now that burn gels what they use in all films

[00:10:09] so like see the guys made it killing off of it.

[00:10:11] But like those were the first people to be like,

[00:10:15] yeah, cover me in that burn gel light me on fire.

[00:10:18] Somebody had to be the first and it was

[00:10:19] on final destination three.

[00:10:20] Hey guys, I brought this the basement gel

[00:10:24] if we want to use it today.

[00:10:25] We can do today to go today.

[00:10:27] Today's the day.

[00:10:28] Yeah, man, that's a day.

[00:10:30] Do you, you were in a lot like I see children

[00:10:32] of the corn there's twilight zone

[00:10:34] there's all of these very horror sci-fi

[00:10:36] whatever you want to call them.

[00:10:37] Did you start getting scripts

[00:10:39] and just trying to see how long you were going to live?

[00:10:41] Like is it, was it a situation

[00:10:43] where just like you don't want to funny?

[00:10:45] My mom and dad used to when I call him

[00:10:47] and go, I booked a job they go,

[00:10:48] so when do you die?

[00:10:49] Like they would ask when I died in there.

[00:10:52] Like how the goal is just like further

[00:10:54] or get further.

[00:10:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to joke

[00:10:58] but I was like, I just want to like get almost to the end

[00:11:00] and I want to do a movie with it

[00:11:02] that doesn't have a number at the end of it.

[00:11:04] Like I just want to be in the first one

[00:11:06] and don't want to.

[00:11:09] I got to call back for scream 10.

[00:11:11] Awesome.

[00:11:11] Cool.

[00:11:12] I just be in scream.

[00:11:14] Like you know, that was models.

[00:11:17] Do you know if it's hard?

[00:11:18] Is it wasn't hard for your parents to watch you die?

[00:11:22] Like I know they know it's a movie

[00:11:24] but still like you know that it's fictional.

[00:11:26] She's still a lot, okay, good.

[00:11:28] Yeah, but still you're.

[00:11:29] I took them to see Insomnia

[00:11:32] because I have like a very small one in Insomnia

[00:11:34] and I got to work with El Tino

[00:11:35] and Rob Williams,

[00:11:36] you're a close-known, I have like a different fun.

[00:11:38] Yes, we're going to get there

[00:11:39] and I promise I have questions.

[00:11:40] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:42] So that was my dad was disturbed by that

[00:11:47] because when I watched it, you know,

[00:11:48] like there's horror films

[00:11:49] like where you're getting a diet of candy bed

[00:11:51] and it's like a lot of screaming and yelling.

[00:11:52] But that film is different

[00:11:54] so that was like an actual Christopher Nolan dark murderous

[00:11:58] so that was very hard for those

[00:12:00] which I didn't really think about

[00:12:01] and I was like, oh that should have thought

[00:12:03] before I told him.

[00:12:04] Yeah.

[00:12:05] I didn't know.

[00:12:06] That that like I did have a question.

[00:12:09] You're a director now.

[00:12:09] Chris Nolan just won a best director, Oscar

[00:12:12] and this is Insomnia's his first like Hollywood going

[00:12:16] but can you make a movie that you're not,

[00:12:18] you didn't write?

[00:12:19] Like can you make this movie for us

[00:12:22] and it's a success

[00:12:24] but it's not normally remembered as a Chris Nolan movie.

[00:12:26] Having said that, Al Pacino, Robin Williams,

[00:12:28] Chris Nolan behind the camera,

[00:12:30] what was it like being on that set?

[00:12:32] Like just like that's unbelievable.

[00:12:36] You first of all, Hillary's main also was in it

[00:12:38] and she came up to me, I'll still remember on the trailer

[00:12:40] and she was like, hi, I'm Hillary

[00:12:42] and I was like, yeah, I know you are just one and Oscar.

[00:12:45] You're like so famous.

[00:12:47] And then in the back of my head,

[00:12:48] I was like don't be weird, don't be weird,

[00:12:49] just be normal, don't be weird.

[00:12:53] She was so lovely.

[00:12:55] Al Pacino, I think it's a meatball from Williams

[00:12:58] which was like such a bummer

[00:12:59] because he would have been, you know.

[00:13:01] He's probably one of the only celebrities

[00:13:03] I cried when he passed away

[00:13:04] because he's like our child, you know.

[00:13:07] But apparently he used to, like it's a Pacino's method

[00:13:11] so he used to love to just like mess with him all the time

[00:13:13] and so on set, Robin Williams is just like trying purposely

[00:13:17] to like mess him up which I think is so funny.

[00:13:19] I wish I had seen that.

[00:13:21] Al Pacino is one of the most kind,

[00:13:26] lovely human beings.

[00:13:28] I also take a picture with him

[00:13:30] and I add all my dead makeup

[00:13:31] and he goes, well honey, don't you want to like take your makeup

[00:13:33] off and I said, I don't care,

[00:13:35] I just could I get a picture and he was like,

[00:13:36] you know what, I'm gonna wait.

[00:13:38] He waited for two hours in his trailer.

[00:13:41] He took a photo with me and then he had to go

[00:13:43] so his assistant came up and said,

[00:13:44] listen Mr. Pacino can't wait any longer

[00:13:46] but he wants to invite you to his birthday dinner

[00:13:50] if you want to come and I was like yeah.

[00:13:53] And so I went to a birthday dinner

[00:13:54] with just Christopher Nolan and his wife

[00:13:56] who's a producer

[00:13:58] and a couple of the producers, Hillary Swank

[00:14:00] and Pacino and we just sat eating dinner

[00:14:04] and the waiter came out and saying

[00:14:07] the Godfather theme song

[00:14:08] which I'm sure he's heard 50 million times.

[00:14:10] You know, he didn't care God,

[00:14:12] he was so gracious,

[00:14:13] he got up and kissed him on each cheek

[00:14:15] and like it was and Hillary Swank's mom was there

[00:14:17] getting you know drinking wine with me

[00:14:19] and like it was, I have a great photo.

[00:14:22] I should find it of me and Pacino

[00:14:24] of me and Hillary Swank

[00:14:25] and the Pacino photo bombing us

[00:14:28] like his face is like that.

[00:14:30] Come on.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:31] What a time.

[00:14:32] That's a pretty good party.

[00:14:33] Like you know, I'm sure it's on the list

[00:14:36] like towards the top but.

[00:14:38] But two questions one is like what was

[00:14:40] did you audition for that?

[00:14:41] Like what was the process there?

[00:14:44] Because this is a step up

[00:14:45] from children of the corn revelation.

[00:14:47] I mean like you're in like this is a

[00:14:49] Hollywood feature film.

[00:14:51] Not many steps though.

[00:14:52] Not many.

[00:14:53] No.

[00:14:54] No, of course not.

[00:14:56] I don't know, I did audition.

[00:14:58] I don't know how.

[00:14:59] A lot of those times when they have auditions

[00:15:00] or somewhere where you don't actually have lines

[00:15:02] that there's like, yeah.

[00:15:04] My frozen there.

[00:15:05] No, you're good.

[00:15:06] Where I can where you can see they'll give you

[00:15:09] like what they call dummy sides and dummy sides

[00:15:10] or like somebody's written it for you.

[00:15:12] So you know, there may be a scene

[00:15:14] where I'm like fighting somebody

[00:15:15] you're telling them not to touch me

[00:15:16] you're screaming at them

[00:15:17] but their dummy sides just as you can do the action.

[00:15:20] And I think that's what we did.

[00:15:22] It was so long ago.

[00:15:23] Yeah, well, I mean even but

[00:15:25] and I do want to get to directing

[00:15:26] but like you know everyone, you know every director

[00:15:29] has a very different you know

[00:15:31] and this is just from I've never directed a film

[00:15:33] but like you hear sometimes the first A.D.

[00:15:35] is who you just as an actor who you actually go to

[00:15:37] and you really don't hear from the director

[00:15:38] other directors are in every scene

[00:15:40] giving you notes after every scene.

[00:15:41] Did you like Chris Nolan has this whole thing around him

[00:15:44] now that it's like no cell phones and no chairs

[00:15:47] and he's very specific

[00:15:49] and he works with the same people was that

[00:15:51] like not, you know, was that noticeable 20 years ago

[00:15:54] to your memory or not?

[00:15:56] It was just a normal, normal job.

[00:15:59] I definitely felt like he knew how to command a set

[00:16:01] in a different way and now that I direct,

[00:16:03] but that's just his personality.

[00:16:06] Like he's just quiet in a way that's very confident

[00:16:11] so you know I'm a talker obviously.

[00:16:15] So like the I have had to teach myself

[00:16:19] that sometimes in silence you can do a lot more.

[00:16:22] You know and people will come to you

[00:16:23] if you are holding that space then they'll come to you

[00:16:27] and he has that thing where you gravitate towards him

[00:16:31] but he is not, he was very friendly.

[00:16:33] He was nice, he was kind.

[00:16:35] He was the first time I'd ever seen portable monitors

[00:16:37] and I remember thinking oh my god those are so cool

[00:16:40] is that a monitor?

[00:16:41] Okay so he could like come right up to us

[00:16:43] and direct us holding the monitor

[00:16:44] and I was like oh and now that I think about it

[00:16:48] what a weird thing for me to get excited about it.

[00:16:51] But maybe it was, you know,

[00:16:53] we're showing me because now I'm like a gear nerd

[00:16:56] and I'm starting to become crazy

[00:16:57] and all I want to do is talk about gear.

[00:17:00] How do I shoot?

[00:17:00] Are you big as a director

[00:17:01] or are you, I know we're jumping ahead

[00:17:02] but like on notes how you give notes to actors

[00:17:05] is it a depending on the actor and what they need

[00:17:08] or are you just like you're a talker

[00:17:09] so like after every senior like Cardi

[00:17:11] I know specifically what I want

[00:17:13] I'm gonna go ahead and say it right now

[00:17:14] so we can go ahead and do that.

[00:17:16] Both because I teach acting right?

[00:17:18] I've been teaching acting for like eight years

[00:17:20] so and I've been acting for years

[00:17:22] so the nice thing about that is that I have a very quick

[00:17:24] shorthand with my actors.

[00:17:26] The majority of the time they know what I'm talking about

[00:17:28] I don't know what they're talking about

[00:17:29] if they don't know what I'm talking about

[00:17:30] I can see it right away, right?

[00:17:32] Because I'm like I'm not explaining this properly.

[00:17:34] I also don't have any fear talking to actors

[00:17:36] because we do the same thing

[00:17:38] and I also know when they're stalling.

[00:17:40] I just forgot they're like I know

[00:17:43] I'm with actors like five days a week

[00:17:44] I know everything they're doing so like

[00:17:46] I think that's really beneficial

[00:17:48] because we can have a quicker conversation

[00:17:52] but also I'm always gonna drive my actors

[00:17:55] and myself to go deeper what's underneath?

[00:17:58] What's underneath?

[00:17:59] And so I like to discover with my actors.

[00:18:04] I also really like to play

[00:18:06] meaning one for you, one for me.

[00:18:09] So like I'll give you a note, let's try this

[00:18:11] and then how about and if they're like

[00:18:13] oh I'm like okay, I will just do one for you

[00:18:15] but give me one, give you one

[00:18:16] because at the end of the day

[00:18:17] any editing room anything can happen

[00:18:19] and you might be totally right

[00:18:21] but I also need to cover,

[00:18:23] because I'm looking at okay,

[00:18:25] this is going into this but like as an actor

[00:18:28] okay as an actor you're so lucky.

[00:18:31] This is how I like to think of it

[00:18:32] because you are in charge of one color

[00:18:34] in the crayon box right?

[00:18:35] And it is like such a beautiful shade of violet

[00:18:39] you get to learn everything about that color

[00:18:40] and that purple and the nuance

[00:18:42] and as a director it's my job to like

[00:18:44] take all the colors up and draw all over the wall.

[00:18:47] You know what I mean?

[00:18:48] I have to look at the film as a whole,

[00:18:50] I have to look at your arc as a character

[00:18:52] and what you're gonna do for the beginning to the end.

[00:18:54] The actors do that too but a lot of the time

[00:18:57] they have to just be present

[00:18:59] in what that person is going through

[00:19:01] while they're going through it.

[00:19:02] They can't go ahead the way that I'm gonna go ahead

[00:19:05] otherwise you start thinking about like

[00:19:07] well I gotta then you're in your head

[00:19:08] then you're trying to play something

[00:19:09] as opposed to being really present

[00:19:11] and the really really good actors

[00:19:12] those ones that like I call them dangerous actors

[00:19:16] you don't, the viola Davis is

[00:19:20] the like very key organ now

[00:19:21] you know they light up a screen

[00:19:23] because it's almost like

[00:19:24] I don't think you know where you're going

[00:19:26] and I don't know where you're going.

[00:19:27] You know you're just here and present

[00:19:30] and in this character as this person

[00:19:32] and we're just like glued to the screen watching you

[00:19:36] I have to allow my actors to do that

[00:19:38] which means I have to do the work of like

[00:19:40] what's coming next for them

[00:19:42] and then we work together to make sure

[00:19:44] that there's rolls in page.

[00:19:45] Love it.

[00:19:46] Give that.

[00:19:47] No, absolutely.

[00:19:48] When going back to acting

[00:19:50] was there a note from a director

[00:19:53] or even just from a fellow actor

[00:19:55] that is stuck with you as being like

[00:19:57] the best advice that you had been given on a set

[00:20:00] or just in a conversation or anything like that?

[00:20:03] That's so interesting

[00:20:05] you know I haven't been asked this question

[00:20:06] and then I...

[00:20:09] Oh.

[00:20:11] Thanks.

[00:20:12] I'm trying to think like what...

[00:20:14] I think more there's two things that stick out.

[00:20:19] One is I had a lot of people telling me

[00:20:23] no enrolling their eyes at me or placating me

[00:20:26] or making me feel like

[00:20:29] I couldn't really do the things I wanted to do.

[00:20:31] Oh are you guys there?

[00:20:32] Yeah, we're here.

[00:20:33] We're here.

[00:20:34] Um...

[00:20:36] I uh...

[00:20:38] I feel from that, like that feeds my soul

[00:20:41] when people look at me and roll their eyes

[00:20:43] or go oh yeah sure you will

[00:20:45] and like oh I'm 100% gonna do it now.

[00:20:47] Like that's my personality

[00:20:48] I mean I basically bought a restaurant

[00:20:49] because somebody told me not to.

[00:20:53] And I owned that restaurant for three years

[00:20:54] they were like don't buy a restaurant

[00:20:56] or heartless business

[00:20:57] I was like I'm 100% buying a restaurant.

[00:20:58] You won't send us a million dollars

[00:21:00] you won't do it.

[00:21:01] So...

[00:21:03] You won't do it.

[00:21:04] You've never told me that.

[00:21:06] You won't send it to our Venmo

[00:21:08] or Venmo ad-

[00:21:09] You're able to get podcasts?

[00:21:10] You won't do it.

[00:21:11] Exactly.

[00:21:13] But I will say that like

[00:21:15] the...

[00:21:16] On the flip side of that

[00:21:17] I've had like the most supportive people.

[00:21:20] You know what?

[00:21:20] I will say one time

[00:21:22] I was sitting on the steps of my agencies

[00:21:25] or my agency steps

[00:21:26] sobbing

[00:21:27] because I had auditioned for Fast and the Furious

[00:21:29] but it wasn't when it was cool again

[00:21:32] like it was like what it was not cool anymore

[00:21:34] and I was like auditioning to play hot chicken

[00:21:36] number 42 or whatever.

[00:21:38] And I was like

[00:21:40] I was so exhausted from doing that

[00:21:44] being all about physical

[00:21:45] being all about that

[00:21:47] that I remember sitting on the steps of sobbing

[00:21:50] and an actor came up

[00:21:52] and he saw me

[00:21:54] and he goes are you okay?

[00:21:55] And I was like yeah, I just want it.

[00:21:56] You know, I want to be taken seriously

[00:21:58] like I just want something to change

[00:22:01] and he sat with me for like two hours

[00:22:03] and let me cry.

[00:22:05] And then he said,

[00:22:07] then go do it.

[00:22:09] And I was like what?

[00:22:10] He's like then if you want to be taken seriously

[00:22:12] as an actor and all these good things

[00:22:14] and you need to get yourself in class

[00:22:16] you need to show up every day

[00:22:17] and you need to fail

[00:22:18] and you need to show them that you're serious

[00:22:20] but you have to dedicate yourself right now

[00:22:22] and I was like oh, okay.

[00:22:25] Okay.

[00:22:26] And I did like I did.

[00:22:28] Yeah.

[00:22:29] I listened to him and I got up

[00:22:30] and I went every day.

[00:22:31] It's like I just needed somebody

[00:22:33] to give me the permission

[00:22:36] and I don't know why but I was young

[00:22:38] but I needed someone to just say,

[00:22:39] well then go do it.

[00:22:41] Like are you gonna sit here and cry about it

[00:22:43] or are you gonna get up and do it?

[00:22:44] Once I heard that I was like yeah, right, right.

[00:22:47] That's awesome.

[00:22:48] And I will say this

[00:22:50] like if you look at your filmography

[00:22:51] I mean you have a lot of like early on in your career

[00:22:54] there is a lot of bartender or whatever,

[00:22:56] you know things like that

[00:22:57] and then what happened there.

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[00:24:17] So what was the thing though?

[00:24:21] I looked right before Sign Seal

[00:24:23] because I want to get in the Sign Seal.

[00:24:24] It looks like you were on a show called Prime Evil New World

[00:24:28] for 13 episodes so that was a regular

[00:24:31] like a series regular, right?

[00:24:34] And that was my first series right

[00:24:36] and so that was Jeff Gusselsen

[00:24:37] who was the Sign Seal, the hilarious

[00:24:40] because he follows me everywhere.

[00:24:42] You can tell on my side.

[00:24:43] Okay.

[00:24:45] He's the last of the four of you

[00:24:47] that we haven't had on

[00:24:48] so you can please tell him to come on.

[00:24:51] I will. He's a blast.

[00:24:53] He, yeah we did a series called Prime Evil New World

[00:24:56] and that was another one.

[00:24:57] So that role when I auditioned for it

[00:25:00] I had tested like multiple times for that.

[00:25:02] I think I went back in like three or four times

[00:25:04] I was like I can get this job or not.

[00:25:06] A Mark the Wood who's directed a ton of homework stuff

[00:25:08] was show running it and he called me

[00:25:11] and he was like I need you to take off all your makeup

[00:25:13] and I need you to be like Velma from Scooby Doo.

[00:25:16] I was like take off on my makeup.

[00:25:21] Like again, I was so bombarded and caught up

[00:25:26] and how the outside how I looked

[00:25:29] because I modeled for years

[00:25:30] so it was just so much harder my psyche

[00:25:32] that that was terrifying for me to take off my makeup.

[00:25:36] Terrifying.

[00:25:37] And so I did it and then I booked a job

[00:25:40] and I was like oh my God that was so weird.

[00:25:42] And then we did 13 episodes

[00:25:44] and now Mater is the lead of that.

[00:25:46] He's in his home,

[00:25:47] so I found two home mark hunks

[00:25:51] and I was great Miranda Fregon.

[00:25:52] She was in it too

[00:25:55] and she's in a ROT garden or the original ones.

[00:25:58] Yeah and then that show got canceled

[00:26:00] and we all cried and I was like

[00:26:01] I'm never gonna work again.

[00:26:03] And then pretty much like a month later

[00:26:06] I booked a science science field.

[00:26:08] I was up for I had tested for another show called Helix.

[00:26:11] Yep.

[00:26:13] And I was up for that and clientele

[00:26:15] at the same time and I had to choose.

[00:26:16] Did you ever think,

[00:26:18] I mean there's no obvious to the answers no

[00:26:20] because science field started as a series

[00:26:21] then became a film sets a bad question.

[00:26:22] I guess when we talked to Kristen

[00:26:25] when she was on the show,

[00:26:25] she was-

[00:26:26] I always see you acknowledge

[00:26:27] you as a bad question and I stopped it

[00:26:28] but that's really good.

[00:26:29] That's real time.

[00:26:30] That's real time.

[00:26:31] I'm working on my cell.

[00:26:32] I'm working on my cell.

[00:26:33] Sure are bud.

[00:26:34] And I just want to acknowledge that we see you.

[00:26:36] Yeah thank you man.

[00:26:37] I appreciate that.

[00:26:38] I feel seen enough.

[00:26:39] Kristen said she was the one that explained

[00:26:42] like our first really seeing you in anything

[00:26:44] brain on this show was science sealed

[00:26:46] and she explained you don't understand

[00:26:47] and she braved about you.

[00:26:49] Like you understand how good of an actor crystal is?

[00:26:50] Like all the stuff she's done prior to this

[00:26:52] and this role,

[00:26:54] like she was just such like

[00:26:55] she just couldn't stop talking about it

[00:26:57] and I didn't realize like what a departure

[00:27:00] science field was for you at the time

[00:27:02] but even though you had that actor

[00:27:04] who came along and said you need to go do it

[00:27:05] and even though you wanted to take yourself seriously.

[00:27:08] Like what was the process of trusting yourself?

[00:27:11] Of not leaning back on?

[00:27:13] I need to go back to the things that I've done

[00:27:15] that have given me it.

[00:27:16] Look for actors, it's a career like you're working

[00:27:19] at a bar and you're trying to make ends meet.

[00:27:21] Like what was the process to go?

[00:27:23] No, I need to lean into this

[00:27:25] and trust that it's the right move.

[00:27:27] And not fall back on the arms of Chingi

[00:27:29] which I know.

[00:27:30] That was hard.

[00:27:31] Yeah I get it.

[00:27:32] Listen I get it.

[00:27:33] Look you know you're part of the same lunatics

[00:27:35] at one point he's really

[00:27:38] he's a big deal.

[00:27:39] Great job.

[00:27:40] He was huge back then.

[00:27:41] You know I again

[00:27:46] somebody called me a fear my friend

[00:27:48] called me a fear chaser the other day

[00:27:49] and I thought that was so funny

[00:27:50] but I'm like you're right

[00:27:51] I am a fear chaser.

[00:27:53] Like I sat in the car of Starbucks

[00:27:56] I remember literally sitting there going

[00:27:58] oh God, I just want to do a job that challenges me

[00:28:01] and so when science field came

[00:28:03] you know I was Martha made me get on the phone with her

[00:28:05] which I was terrified to do

[00:28:06] because I was choosing between these two shows

[00:28:08] and she said if you go on the show with me

[00:28:10] I will write for you every day.

[00:28:12] And like the entire pilot

[00:28:13] I was like I am a hundred percent getting fired

[00:28:15] I mean when I walked in and saw Kristen

[00:28:17] I don't know she probably told this story

[00:28:18] cause it's a good story but she I walked in

[00:28:22] and she looked over at Scott our director

[00:28:24] and was like what is going on about me

[00:28:28] and I could see her

[00:28:28] I was like how I wanted to do was lean over me

[00:28:31] like I don't know

[00:28:32] but I don't know why I'm here

[00:28:33] I never do stuff like this

[00:28:35] because I just wasn't what they the character description

[00:28:38] was so different than anything I had done

[00:28:40] when I read the character description in my mind

[00:28:42] she remember the Drew Carrey show

[00:28:45] remember her his assistant the curly hair

[00:28:49] yes, sort of with the nose

[00:28:52] that's kind of how it was like when I read it

[00:28:55] that's who I saw

[00:28:57] so I was like there's no way I'm putting this

[00:28:59] like I'm not a character actor

[00:29:01] I don't do comedy it's not happening

[00:29:05] but I went in there

[00:29:06] I think that's why I booked the job

[00:29:08] because I went in there with no

[00:29:10] I was like I'm not looking at this

[00:29:12] I'm just gonna do what I would do with her

[00:29:14] and this is the only way I know how to play Rita

[00:29:16] which is leaning in more of the innocent side

[00:29:19] that I can connect with

[00:29:21] like seeing the best in people always

[00:29:23] always like looking at self-relinning

[00:29:25] I can 100 percent connect with that

[00:29:27] so I was like I'll just do my version

[00:29:29] and it worked

[00:29:32] but in the series Martha started really writing for me

[00:29:36] and that was great

[00:29:38] and then Rita just kind of came alive on her own

[00:29:42] and then the committee of that

[00:29:44] I'm sorry the comedic aspects of it

[00:29:46] because she's such an innocent like think the best

[00:29:48] like you get a chance to do some comedy

[00:29:51] which is not directly what Seine Seal delivered is

[00:29:54] but it gives you an opportunity

[00:29:55] to play some of that as well

[00:29:57] yeah and then made me fall in love with comedy

[00:30:00] I was like oh man if I can be done

[00:30:03] like stupid in this way

[00:30:05] this is amazing

[00:30:06] I would love to do this for the rest of it

[00:30:08] like that's really all I want now

[00:30:11] and then next to the wall

[00:30:11] I would love to lean into like dromedy comedies

[00:30:13] like that's my jail now

[00:30:15] I started going groundlings

[00:30:17] I started doing improv

[00:30:18] like I yeah I suck

[00:30:22] I was so bad

[00:30:23] I'm so terrible

[00:30:25] but that's okay

[00:30:26] it's sucking at something is good

[00:30:28] I always like

[00:30:29] I enjoy the bombing aspect of it

[00:30:32] like I encourage my students always get up and bomb

[00:30:34] because the more you suck

[00:30:36] the less you realize

[00:30:38] like I die

[00:30:40] you know nothing happens

[00:30:41] so just get back up

[00:30:43] and then you just get better

[00:30:44] to how you go

[00:30:45] yeah I do think we have to ask

[00:30:47] I think we're required by law to ask

[00:30:49] if there's another sign so delivered movie

[00:30:51] I'm pretty sure there are people

[00:30:53] who are searching the globe right now

[00:30:55] they're finding screenshots or stills

[00:30:58] well if you look at this

[00:31:00] it says if you combine post and able

[00:31:04] that you're both in this article

[00:31:06] and the word 15

[00:31:07] which definitely can you just

[00:31:09] Crystal help us help us help you here

[00:31:12] and so I can stop

[00:31:14] and I love these movies

[00:31:15] but just can you just go ahead

[00:31:16] and let us know that there's another one

[00:31:18] I want to help you

[00:31:20] what I what I will say is

[00:31:23] I can't say

[00:31:24] I can't say that's a good

[00:31:28] can I can I ask you this

[00:31:30] when there's a new sign so delivered

[00:31:32] and you're on set

[00:31:33] and you guys are acting for the 10th time

[00:31:35] like it's the last one

[00:31:36] and I think that that filming

[00:31:38] starts every time

[00:31:39] every time starts in a couple weeks

[00:31:40] and a couple weeks in British Columbia

[00:31:41] correct if I'm not mistaken

[00:31:43] and I hope it does

[00:31:46] I hope we do

[00:31:46] you're up

[00:31:48] if you're watching on file

[00:31:49] of that TV's list at the age

[00:31:50] she's nodding

[00:31:51] she's nodding

[00:31:52] nodding

[00:31:53] she's telling us

[00:31:54] what is listen

[00:31:58] Martha's always

[00:31:59] we've not got a chance

[00:32:00] talk to her but all we hear

[00:32:01] is how much she is an advocate

[00:32:02] for the show and the actors

[00:32:04] what are the chances that

[00:32:06] we could possibly see

[00:32:07] signs of delivered 19

[00:32:10] the the the checkered pass

[00:32:12] of the postal blah blah blah

[00:32:13] directed by Crystal love

[00:32:15] oh god you know we talked

[00:32:17] about that

[00:32:18] it's come up many times

[00:32:21] I would be interested in directing a

[00:32:23] sign sealed

[00:32:24] but I want to make sure

[00:32:26] the integrity of the film

[00:32:29] doesn't get affected

[00:32:30] and what I mean by that is

[00:32:31] because I'm edit so much

[00:32:34] that's a lot

[00:32:35] you know what I mean

[00:32:36] like what am I better off

[00:32:37] like I just want to make sure

[00:32:41] that because it takes so much

[00:32:43] to direct

[00:32:43] I do think it's a hilarious

[00:32:45] visual that I would be like

[00:32:46] dressed as Rita

[00:32:47] you know like at the monitor

[00:32:49] and when I'm at the monitor

[00:32:51] like I wear a hat

[00:32:52] I look like I wear leg warmers

[00:32:53] like I look I'm not like cute

[00:32:55] so it would be hilarious for me to be

[00:32:56] like I'm on the lot with my glasses

[00:32:57] and I'm like yelling at people

[00:33:01] I'm not opposed to it

[00:33:02] I just want to make sure

[00:33:03] that if I ever do it

[00:33:04] that it's

[00:33:05] it's the right move for the film

[00:33:06] not just me

[00:33:08] you know

[00:33:08] that's more important

[00:33:09] of course

[00:33:10] yeah

[00:33:10] now that you've done

[00:33:12] some hallmark stuff

[00:33:14] and you've played these different type

[00:33:16] of roles

[00:33:17] would you ever see yourself

[00:33:19] going back to

[00:33:20] screen

[00:33:21] cleaning it up

[00:33:22] like would you

[00:33:23] I mean I know you did that

[00:33:24] I've time you did the old flames

[00:33:26] old flames never die

[00:33:26] which

[00:33:27] we actually

[00:33:29] reviewed on the show

[00:33:30] we reviewed that on the show

[00:33:31] because

[00:33:31] there's a guy who plays an agent

[00:33:34] in that movie

[00:33:34] he's one of our co-host

[00:33:35] Patrick Serrano

[00:33:36] who's a lifetime podcaster

[00:33:37] he's like three lines

[00:33:38] he says he says

[00:33:39] what is it

[00:33:40] no more questions

[00:33:42] no more questions

[00:33:43] yes

[00:33:44] okay

[00:33:45] that was so

[00:33:46] that was fun

[00:33:47] they're all fun

[00:33:47] all those

[00:33:48] like

[00:33:48] old flames

[00:33:49] you're talking about the one with Lou

[00:33:51] Lou Fregno

[00:33:52] right here

[00:33:52] correct

[00:33:53] yes

[00:33:53] Lou Fregno Jenga

[00:33:54] yeah that's the one

[00:33:55] yeah

[00:33:55] that was super fun

[00:33:56] I actually love Jake

[00:33:57] the director was great

[00:33:58] and also Lou

[00:33:58] is like

[00:33:59] Lou is like

[00:34:00] a

[00:34:02] super handsome

[00:34:04] giant

[00:34:05] Dalmatian

[00:34:08] he's like goofy

[00:34:09] and like

[00:34:10] you know

[00:34:10] like I don't know

[00:34:11] but I'm

[00:34:11] I'm like running

[00:34:12] like a puppy right now

[00:34:12] because I'm thinking about him

[00:34:14] like the way he's like all over the map

[00:34:15] so he was

[00:34:16] I'm a super fun

[00:34:16] you know

[00:34:17] I don't say no to

[00:34:18] any kind of genre

[00:34:20] I always want to do things that are different

[00:34:23] so I love to

[00:34:24] sespa playing Rita

[00:34:25] I love her

[00:34:25] and the thing with Martha's writing is that

[00:34:27] Rita has given me the ability

[00:34:29] to grow in a character

[00:34:30] like she hasn't stayed stagnant

[00:34:32] she's still as who she is

[00:34:33] but she's growing

[00:34:34] so that's great

[00:34:36] but I'm open to doing

[00:34:38] lots of different stuff

[00:34:39] and I write

[00:34:40] too

[00:34:41] so you know

[00:34:42] I'm always writing myself stuff now

[00:34:43] fantastic

[00:34:44] I love it

[00:34:45] what's your

[00:34:45] I always

[00:34:46] I feel like I have to ask this too

[00:34:47] which

[00:34:48] sign sealed

[00:34:49] was your favorite

[00:34:50] to work on

[00:34:51] of the

[00:34:52] and you can include the current one

[00:34:54] if you'd like

[00:34:54] the current one

[00:34:55] if you'd like

[00:34:56] you guys

[00:34:57] just

[00:34:58] just try

[00:34:58] to set it up

[00:35:01] you know

[00:35:02] I

[00:35:02] I'm trying to think what my favorite one

[00:35:04] probably

[00:35:05] me in Normans

[00:35:06] first kiss

[00:35:07] yeah

[00:35:07] that was a great

[00:35:08] for the show

[00:35:09] for the

[00:35:10] the show

[00:35:11] yeah

[00:35:11] it was just such a

[00:35:13] I mean Jeff and I are such a

[00:35:14] funny

[00:35:15] you know I think people know this

[00:35:16] but we've known each other since we were 15

[00:35:17] we went to high school together

[00:35:19] like

[00:35:20] we lived across the street

[00:35:21] from each other

[00:35:21] while we were shooting all the sign seals

[00:35:23] like it's weird

[00:35:24] we're like

[00:35:25] you know

[00:35:26] so we are these weird soulmates

[00:35:28] and we have

[00:35:29] this weird chemistry

[00:35:30] that when you get us together

[00:35:31] we like

[00:35:32] fight

[00:35:32] and love each other

[00:35:33] as if we're married or family

[00:35:37] and so

[00:35:38] that was a really great moment

[00:35:39] for both of us

[00:35:39] I think because it was just like

[00:35:41] and then hit the proposal

[00:35:42] when he did the proposal

[00:35:43] with me

[00:35:43] I loved that

[00:35:44] scene so much

[00:35:46] I loved shooting that with him

[00:35:48] you know

[00:35:49] anything

[00:35:49] and all those things with Gigi

[00:35:51] that I'll always remember

[00:35:52] we call him Gigi

[00:35:53] of course Gigi

[00:35:54] I love it

[00:35:54] just good note

[00:35:55] ideally

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[00:36:02] just for drinks

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[00:37:02] let's

[00:37:08] let's talk about directing

[00:37:11] it's going to be something that

[00:37:13] well actually when did it when did you think

[00:37:16] I think I want to try my hand

[00:37:18] because this

[00:37:19] it all honestly if i'm acting

[00:37:21] I wish I've never acted but if i'm acting

[00:37:23] and I see somebody gets to make all the decisions

[00:37:25] I'm immediately in my head going

[00:37:28] what tell me more about that

[00:37:29] that's what i'm doing so when did that happen for you

[00:37:33] you know it wasn't

[00:37:35] that just again I get this the bug of like

[00:37:38] oh i'm complacent i'm complacent i'm not growing i'm growing

[00:37:41] what else can i do what else can i do

[00:37:43] and so i work in like every aspect of the industry

[00:37:45] i worked in a casting office for five years as a reader

[00:37:48] and one of the best casting offices in in Canada

[00:37:51] um and i just was like something is missing

[00:37:55] and then a friend asked me about i wanted to direct her short

[00:37:57] and i was like yeah okay i'll try that

[00:38:00] and i still remember driving home it was a night shoot

[00:38:03] the sun was coming up

[00:38:05] and it was like this

[00:38:08] i don't know i'm sure you everybody's had these kind of moments

[00:38:10] where it's like this magic feeling where you're just like

[00:38:13] oh everything feels like um this is perfect

[00:38:16] this moment could not be any more perfect

[00:38:19] it just felt right then i started producing

[00:38:23] because i owned the restaurant

[00:38:25] and the restaurant i had to get funding for 50% of that

[00:38:29] so in order to do that like it's really hard to get money

[00:38:32] for a restaurant they have a 90% failure rate

[00:38:35] i had to write a business plan and apply for all these grants and loans

[00:38:38] and i have high school education so i you know

[00:38:41] googled business plan no joke and i wrote one

[00:38:45] and i found the money for a restaurant i was like wow

[00:38:48] if i can do that i can probably do this

[00:38:51] in a career that i love so then i started producing

[00:38:56] and the producing makes a lot of sense to me it's

[00:38:59] i'm control-freak and i love putting things together and budgeting

[00:39:02] i really enjoy it but again the producing just

[00:39:06] it didn't quite match up with the feeling i had as a director

[00:39:09] so i was like you know what i'm going to keep

[00:39:11] i'm going to keep trying to direct

[00:39:12] and i'm going to keep trying to write

[00:39:14] and i'm what else can i do

[00:39:16] and then once i started directing more i got asked

[00:39:18] a couple times from different people for their short so i was like oh

[00:39:21] i'm pretty sure i'm supposed to do this

[00:39:23] this feels just as right as acting if not sometimes a little more

[00:39:27] like it's i'm never going to give a back thing i'll

[00:39:29] people i look up to are people like cb wallard bridge and esa ray

[00:39:33] you know women that are doing all of it

[00:39:37] but the directing just feels right the writing feels the most

[00:39:41] difficult of all this reason because the writing is like

[00:39:44] bearing your soul in front of people which is like so weird

[00:39:48] yeah so you start having this desire to do this

[00:39:53] homework then is going to do this maker mark initiative

[00:39:56] how did you kind of get involved with that how did it lead to you

[00:40:02] directing this upcoming movie shifting gears

[00:40:05] well let's just start by saying i haven't been begging

[00:40:08] calmer you know it's funny because i've had people come up here and be like

[00:40:11] well you know you're already in the hallmark family so that's why

[00:40:14] you you got it you know is there a lot of nepotism what and i was like

[00:40:18] first of all i've been with hallmark for eight years asking them

[00:40:21] yeah okay if anything you should look at it like

[00:40:25] oh wow you've been asking for eight years i've been there for a long time

[00:40:29] asking this wasn't something they just handed out

[00:40:33] this wasn't like uh short we'll just give one to you i mean it wasn't like

[00:40:36] over with a car the i really look at

[00:40:39] actually and actually Williams and Randy Pope Randy i you know

[00:40:43] it ain't belled that poor guy i would email him every six months being like

[00:40:46] when he gonna let me direct here's what i'm doing you know

[00:40:48] and he to his credit he was always encouraging

[00:40:52] always saying yes the doors open crystal you can keep on asking

[00:40:56] but i need you to go and do the thing

[00:40:58] show me that serious and i was like okay done

[00:41:01] i will go do you know i will raise whatever funds i have to raise i did another

[00:41:05] short after during the pandemic i shot with just me and a camera op

[00:41:10] one sound guy i wrote directed and started it and a couple of my friends

[00:41:13] you know that's the that's the short ultimately that got me

[00:41:16] this internship and then i met with actually at rama drama that's how we met

[00:41:21] and i do know that i want to do this yeah it was crazy

[00:41:24] and then she asked me to go on a hike with her and i was like yeah and i

[00:41:28] i had my baby strapped to my back because that's how i roll um and i didn't

[00:41:34] know but she was interviewing me during that hike oh yeah classic actually

[00:41:38] i'm kind of glad i didn't know you know because

[00:41:41] i was much more open and just asking her what ultimately i think got me that

[00:41:47] this spot is really the grit that i talked about because i was like

[00:41:53] if i can't get in what else can i apply for where should i be going okay

[00:41:57] she gave me some advice to write letters and do these things i

[00:42:00] i did it by day two you know like i was like whatever i got to do

[00:42:05] i'm doing the thing so i think that was more what

[00:42:09] pushed me into position than anything so we know that hallmark shoots natoria's

[00:42:16] 15-day shoot you're going through over a hundred pages of dialogue in

[00:42:20] 15 days that that as a director who's

[00:42:24] helming the ship i mean there's a lot there's a lot of

[00:42:26] you know spinning plates here well how daunting was that day one or

[00:42:31] did you just feel like this is where i want to be um

[00:42:35] i mean the program of maker mark is amazing right so they have

[00:42:39] i shadow Jess harman from prep to post so i got to watch her do her thing

[00:42:43] and then i had the the program is that then the um

[00:42:46] the mentor becomes your creative producer which i did have for the first

[00:42:50] little while but Jess who's open about this now so i can say um

[00:42:54] a founder she was pregnant during my prep

[00:42:58] and so then she had to leave because she was she was vitally ill

[00:43:01] and i had little Lisa hater come in and be my mentor so

[00:43:05] i was padded in that way like i knew i had someone to

[00:43:09] have my back that being said i like to be thrown into the fire

[00:43:15] it was a grueling shoot but my producer on that my barbudo like

[00:43:21] the guy i don't even want to say his name on here because i don't want other

[00:43:24] people to take

[00:43:26] i'm like no he's lying i'm not sharing him ever again um he's with muse

[00:43:31] he uh that guy can move mountains he made things uh really

[00:43:37] comfortable for me to play around it and i was like you know

[00:43:41] messing around i was like let's try this let's take

[00:43:44] the you know my favorite chef from Romeo and Juliet with Bezzler

[00:43:47] and it can i get there how have we moved how can i get okay we can use the

[00:43:51] card this one i mean i was designing things and he was like what

[00:43:54] if i see anything like a baslerman shot on home arc i'm going to

[00:43:57] we're gonna have a whole breakdown you know the podcast oh my goodness

[00:44:00] i try i tried i have my version of it in this and it's not

[00:44:04] perfect because but it is my version of it like

[00:44:07] what's the great thing about Mike was that he was like okay

[00:44:09] her soul what do you want to do you know i kept talking about moonlight

[00:44:12] and quoting all these bells and he was like

[00:44:15] okay yeah you know i came in with a full color palette you guys

[00:44:19] see as you watch the film um which here's a little

[00:44:22] little Easter eggs you know she's in red season blues

[00:44:26] you're always gonna see that you'll see a lot of purples as they come

[00:44:28] together like there's a lot of stuff with a love color theory

[00:44:32] you're gonna see all those kind of things that happen within the film

[00:44:35] and i took the opportunity to try the difficult part of this film is that

[00:44:41] there's a reality show in the movie oh my goodness

[00:44:45] so technically that's two movies and i'm shooting

[00:44:48] you know like i'm shooting the really different yes

[00:44:51] and then i'm shooting this show and it was that was like and you know there's six

[00:44:55] people in every scene and i was like i had to really shift gears if you know what i

[00:45:00] know um i got you have this question your literally like this is not a

[00:45:06] standard hallmark we have an office building in canada and a cozy home in

[00:45:10] canada and you have two locations an outside location

[00:45:14] let's let our first time you know first time she's directed for hallmark

[00:45:18] let's letter no no you've got motorcycles you've got

[00:45:22] Tyler Hines who is like for hallmark that's the biggest name on hallmark

[00:45:27] he's Jesus Christ i mean he's the we say he's Jesus Christ all the time uh

[00:45:31] he is a big deal so like for someone who you know

[00:45:36] directing tv we talked to Stacy Harding who's uh

[00:45:38] directed around and around last year and it's directed a lot of stuff

[00:45:41] and there's a weird you know when you direct a film for

[00:45:44] for theaters it's the filmmakers medium when you direct on tv

[00:45:47] sometimes it's the networks medium sometimes it's the writers medium

[00:45:50] what what about like this i don't want to ask another were you a

[00:45:55] afraid question but there's a lot here there's a lot happening here

[00:45:59] how much did you feel empowered to put your own vision on it

[00:46:05] i'm laughing because if my producer is here he would be like rolling his eyes

[00:46:09] to be like she was like you know i wasn't holding back with putting on my own ideas

[00:46:13] i love it

[00:46:15] if you saw my office it was like covered in all of my stuff you know

[00:46:20] i mean i again broke it down the way i would have as an actor

[00:46:25] two arc-wise like how do i make these two people grow from each other

[00:46:30] how do i make this dance make sense yeah there's a lot of elements don't

[00:46:33] find everyone's like were you scared working with tired and i was like well

[00:46:36] no because he's my peer you know and i'm so grateful i got him because yeah

[00:46:41] he's the bad boy at Walmart and it wouldn't this script it seems like

[00:46:44] ready it's like this has to be Tyler like he's the guy to do this job

[00:46:50] but he's my peer you know if i put you guys in a

[00:46:53] podcast room with the top podcasters it would be super cool but like also

[00:46:56] you guys did a sick job so you know what you know you guys can be speak

[00:47:00] same languages that that part doesn't freak me out at all and it is hard to find

[00:47:04] people that are at our level but i do understand the general point yeah and

[00:47:06] is she did somewhere in there say we're professional

[00:47:09] yeah i think that that is all i could take

[00:47:11] that's true um and cap abroad was like so easy too that that stuff wasn't what

[00:47:17] was daunting for me more was just like how am i going to shoot a six-hand

[00:47:21] or i haven't shot a six-hand or how do i get these looks of people looking at

[00:47:25] each other and yeah i mean everybody that came on set was like

[00:47:29] this is a lot for you first

[00:47:31] for me yeah sure is uh but i wouldn't want it any other way

[00:47:37] you know like i would if you asked me again do you want this script or do you

[00:47:41] want these two people talking at cafe 100% i would have chosen that one

[00:47:45] don't give me give me the hardest script you have

[00:47:48] give the most difficult one and i will get through it

[00:47:51] and it'll be beautiful and then you know i would rather that i love it

[00:47:55] that's great yeah i'm a i'm a fear chaser are we gonna are we gonna watch this

[00:48:01] and be like this doesn't even look like a home-mark movie or they've got to

[00:48:05] have some it's like some of that right

[00:48:08] it definitely looks like a home-mark i mean still a home-mark week

[00:48:12] it's still a romance it's still like a comedy and it's still a home-mark

[00:48:16] but they're really expanding you know like they are

[00:48:19] looking for creative voices and new voices

[00:48:22] and they let me come in and make some interesting choices you know i

[00:48:27] i also just don't think it's that hard in terms of

[00:48:31] um not that it's not hard to direct because it was very hard to direct it

[00:48:36] sometimes because they make you know 90 100 movies a year i don't know

[00:48:39] what the network but sometimes you know

[00:48:43] people get complacent of making the same thing over and over again

[00:48:45] in the you know they it's easy for them you should know why

[00:48:48] I shoot it you know and make people laugh and that's that's the thing

[00:48:51] i will never look at anything that way i i said to the actors when i got this

[00:48:56] you know this is this would be a pretty great budget if we were shooting a tiny

[00:48:59] little indie right yeah so why don't we treat it like a little indie

[00:49:03] i'm gonna treat it like that i'm gonna put my whole heart in the soul into this

[00:49:07] thing i am gonna call i mean i shared with everybody on

[00:49:11] in the crew my color palette to what we were trying to do and i

[00:49:15] it was so the team was amazing i had my grips coming up being like

[00:49:19] is this the right shade of purple you know like are we paying

[00:49:22] where are you doing this you know like everybody came together and

[00:49:25] and created this like really you know i think really pretty

[00:49:28] pretty little movie that i'm very proud of

[00:49:31] i can't go wrong there though crystal you just can't like when someone's

[00:49:34] that passionate like and doing something they that they love doing

[00:49:38] it's always better than stock it always is like it's not going to return void it's

[00:49:44] not going to come back and be like because people cared you can see that

[00:49:48] care on screen i think that that matters and we watch

[00:49:52] we watch a lot of movies we've had twelve eleven hundred episodes like we

[00:49:56] watch a lot of movies from a lot of networks not just hall like from up and

[00:49:59] lifetime and we can like we can tell and we're not even in the business we can

[00:50:03] tell when somebody showed up on the first day was like all right let's just do

[00:50:07] this thing and get it over with like you can there's a there's a care factor

[00:50:12] and some ways a lot like food you can tell with like you can tell

[00:50:14] something something has been made with love and so you can tell when the best

[00:50:18] boy was just being a good boy yeah when you when that key grip wasn't really key he

[00:50:22] was not he was not a kid all you can tell those things he was like you know

[00:50:25] you can take that best boy being a good boy you can run with that you can do

[00:50:28] whatever i just came up with that actually thought that was pretty good

[00:50:32] yeah uh go ahead this movie also has classic car elements just so you know

[00:50:36] and like each one of those cars that was the most difficult thing

[00:50:39] we had to get this cars in stages so like the cars became their own thing

[00:50:45] because they had to be like we had to make sure i we scheduled around shooting the cars

[00:50:49] in the right stage to make sure for the competition that was

[00:50:54] that part was really difficult my car guys though were so dope and like they drove around

[00:50:58] ever there i'll give you guys another easter egg i think i said uh i paid a

[00:51:04] mage to thelma Louise in this movie i asked for a thunderbird

[00:51:11] uh six-step thunderbird and they were like yeah we can get it for you i was like shut up

[00:51:14] that's awesome they were like yeah i'm like and so when i got to the car

[00:51:18] place i think i have a picture of it they had three versions of three you know

[00:51:22] beater and not so beater and then a nice one that we had to like get

[00:51:25] whatever fix and it says thelma Louise and the cliff

[00:51:30] that's like it's great hilarious i love it so funny i love it

[00:51:35] i'm fantastic shifting gears uh the sub the what is that the 23rd i believe

[00:51:40] yes i'm really looking forward to it and i'm also really looking forward to the rapid

[00:51:44] fire round because that's where we are yeah starts right now uh we each could ask you three questions

[00:51:48] it's nothing like what we've been doing very different because these to be about anything

[00:51:53] right uh such as if you're going to have noodles which noodle are you going with

[00:52:01] is it a spaghetti is it a rigatoni is it a macaroni i don't know pick your noodle

[00:52:09] well i'm chinese so it would be a crispy uh

[00:52:12] calmy noodle but uh macaroni okay okay it's a great answer you've referenced several films

[00:52:20] throughout this interview it's clearly your movie person do you like i hate to ask this but

[00:52:24] do you have a favorite or top three film like that these are the movies that like made you

[00:52:31] you know guys i'm so gushi moushi moushi moonlight is one of my favorite films of all time

[00:52:37] it's phenomenal um because i'll tell you something moonlight was the first movie that i really understood

[00:52:42] color and if anyone hasn't seen that movie watch it you'll see it it's the the and even on the poster

[00:52:47] right it's pink and blue and purple on the inside and i was like oh someone dealing with masculine

[00:52:51] feminine and what that looks like in between beautiful um brave heart okay one of my favorite memories

[00:53:01] because i'm like so hopeless romantic uh and i love kung fu hustle oh yeah yeah yeah i've seen

[00:53:08] it yes i watched a ton of jacke chain like drunken master stuff and then kung fu hustle i saw it

[00:53:15] in the movie theater wow it's amazing yeah it's really good yeah i'm also strictly ballroom

[00:53:21] is one of my faves like i like i really like big pops of like color and big characters and you know

[00:53:27] that's my kind of i love it do you have any pets i did i had a cat for 18 years

[00:53:35] to leave out for dog for 18 years i'm honey both of them passed this that seemed like a

[00:53:41] gotcha question i didn't know that information i didn't know it i didn't know that per agent on

[00:53:47] the phone was like don't ask about pets don't ask specifically like don't talk about the reindeer

[00:53:53] the feegee or pets like you do know i love those pets so it's okay we can talk about them they were

[00:53:58] correct are you honey and diva yes i have honey and diva are i p obviously are you uh crystal you're

[00:54:06] in canada right now or los angeles uh i am in los angeles currently okay what's the best

[00:54:13] food from home in canada that you miss when you're in los angeles is there anything that you just

[00:54:18] can't get an la like it like it's made in canada well here's the weird thing because i'm from

[00:54:22] british philumbia is is so weird but the chinese food and bc is almost comparable to hawkong

[00:54:29] it's the best because they're such a huge chinese population the dim sum is like really oh my god

[00:54:35] it's the best chinese food like if you guys come to van kuehver we're going off again some it's

[00:54:38] we we're we're terrible the hawkong your dear friends with uh Antonio k.o. and who owns three restaurants so

[00:54:43] we do have to put his uh ret he owns three restaurants up there and but dim sums on the list my

[00:54:49] like that would be oh my goodness do you ever had dim sum no oh come on come we will go and feast

[00:54:56] you will love it there's so many different types of dumplings and they bring our is it with the

[00:55:00] carts they bring around the carts sometimes that's kind of old school which is super fun because they

[00:55:04] like pull their out of the carts and then everyone yells at each other i mean there's nothing for

[00:55:08] or warming for me it's so weird whenever i'm stressed or depressed i'll go to a chinese one time

[00:55:12] to do the holes where everybody's like yelling at each other and kind of rude and i feel so much

[00:55:17] like oh home that's great i love it this is better i love it would you rather get tomorrow's newspaper today

[00:55:25] early addition early addition or just be able to see uh 100 years in the future where it doesn't

[00:55:31] really affect you but you get to see what it's going to be like in 100 years well 100 years

[00:55:36] in the future yeah i mean because then you could just look at whatever the most

[00:55:43] the google of that time and then bring it back here and invent it that's pretty good

[00:55:48] and i like to use pets of course this is easily you ask some really terrible questions

[00:55:53] is easily your best question thank you easily any time i get to bring up early addition

[00:55:58] i mean earlier i am the cat the whole bit is great it's a great television show

[00:56:03] crystal uh is there a genre of film that either directorial or as an actor

[00:56:09] that you've not really gotten to do that you would like to like to move forward too i guess comedy

[00:56:14] maybe aside from that or isn't a music home that was my audition by the way

[00:56:22] that was really good i feel like thrown and excited by that which is exactly how i feel when

[00:56:26] i see a rock star i think i love you know what i would really like to do which is never

[00:56:36] having it is a period okay because like when have i ever got now that bridgetan and all these other

[00:56:41] shows and and all the jane ostensite hall was super cool was such a cool mix of diverse casting

[00:56:48] and thank you uh lin menwell for forgiving us that like hey i can maybe be in a period piece

[00:56:55] that would be dope yeah and then but as a director that seems like a headache like to make sure it

[00:57:00] all looks exactly the way it should look all the time like it's another level right that's not

[00:57:05] a headache that's like so fun i'm like what else can you give me like what that would that's my

[00:57:11] favorite part is the like being specific and finding because that means i'd have to do a

[00:57:17] research on it like oh my god i would love to see what they should do on crystals next move for

[00:57:21] hallmarkers that come and be like hey i know it's a 15 day shoot we're gonna have to do it

[00:57:24] nine we're gonna do it nine days we heard you like challenges christmas christmas like okay okay okay yeah

[00:57:30] let's do it 100% that will happen and 100% i will lean it i love it

[00:57:35] yeah take it happen christall it's very evidence that you love your craft and your your super super

[00:57:41] talented at it and also that you typically give the credit every time we've talked about anything

[00:57:46] you've done you've mentioned other people and so it's it's clear that you love it but also your

[00:57:50] kind of people love to work with you we can't thank you enough for for being on the show and

[00:57:54] hanging out with us for for the last hour i mean thanks for giving every time we really appreciate it

[00:57:59] thank you for having me and bringing up all my pets yeah yeah and dying in a tiny bed

[00:58:06] yes i'm just asking really awkward questions i didn't bring that up i brought up chiny but i can't

[00:58:13] get in trouble for that okay all right we said we're gonna end it this way and you said

[00:58:20] that it would be fine and not weird at all so maybe we'd be the first to wish you a Merry Christmas

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