Yo Gavel Gavel - Get Off My Lawn & Gold Chains

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[00:00:00] This week on Yo Gavel Gavel, if you keep calling the police on your neighbor for parking in front of your house and going over your car, are you entitled to money or is Judge Mathis going to tell you to get off his lawn?

[00:00:22] And if all you've ever wanted your entire life is a gold chain and you finally get one but then you break up, do you have to give it back or is it yours forever? Judge Jerry tells us real people, real cases, fake justice, this is Yo Gavel Gavel.

[00:00:37] Oh, wow. Hello everybody. In the chambers. This is an exciting day Dan because a show that is near and dear to our heart, Yo Gavel Gavel, it might be our favorite show. It has been behind to the paywall of Bramble Jam Plus for a few years now.

[00:01:02] And we thought 2024 would be a good year to crack it back open. I think the people, I think society is finally caught up with Yo Gavel Gavel and it's time now to bring it back.

[00:01:17] So today here on the Deck The Hallmark feed, you're going to get a taste of the gavel because maybe you've never heard of it, maybe you didn't know it existed. Dan and I, we love courtroom shows. TV courtroom shows for sure. And that's how we started the show.

[00:01:32] And we're excited to break down two cases for you today. If you like what you hear, head over to Yo Gavel Gavel wherever you're listening to the podcast and hit subscribe. You're going to be getting episodes weekly that have already been released to the Bramble Jam Plus people.

[00:01:47] Bramble Jam Plus feed. That's right. But now we're slowly trickling them out. That's right. To the masses. Because here's the thing. It's, it's the same yesterday today and tomorrow. Amen. It depends on the courtroom really. I don't know if that's, I would, I would.

[00:02:01] So it's evergreen though is what we're saying. These cases are good. These cases are good anytime. Good anytime as they were yesterday. That's exactly right. So we are excited to relaunch this show for the new generation of gavel heads. Sweep in the nation. That's exactly right.

[00:02:16] That's exactly right. So head over to Yo Gavel Gavel wherever you're listening to this. The last two years we switched generations. Yes. Two years ago, three years ago it was an old- No, I don't think people were ready. The old gavel generation. The old guard. Yes.

[00:02:27] These are the new, this is the new generation of gavel heads. Yes. And we couldn't make that any clearer. That's exactly right. We had two cases for you today. Yeah, we do. I've watched one. Dan's watched one.

[00:02:38] We're going to explain them to each other and try to guess the outcome just by hearing. We're going to put on our robes as if you're watching on Philo TV. Oh, on Philo TV? Yes. Is that correct? Yeah. If you're watching today on Philo TV.

[00:02:51] Yeah, this is in the deck to homework feed. I forgot. That's exactly right. Yeah, of course. I have Judge Jerry. You have- I got Judge Mathis. The old stand-by thing. All right, I'll flip the coin. That's you. Do you want to go first or second?

[00:03:05] You want to go first or second? Yeah, I want to go first. Okay, yeah, it was me the whole way. I called it. You did it. Randy Davis. Randy Davis. See how I'm not too good for that? I clap along. Randy Davis is suing James Weirda. Weirda? Weirda.

[00:03:22] Let's go with Weirda. He's a very old white gentleman in a suit and that feels as though like he's mad he has to be there. Suing him for $2032. James Weirda is countersuing for $1,500 in emotional distress. Now we find out later James only goes by Jim.

[00:03:40] So if I say Jim later on, that's who James is. Randy is like, hey, I've lived in this house basically my whole life and it used to be my dad's house and then my dad got older and then I got the house in 2010.

[00:03:56] And my dad has since actually moved back in with me because he's older and he's moved back in with me. He moved off for a while and he moved back in. Well, we've had the same neighbor Jim for as long as I've lived there.

[00:04:09] In 2010 I got a phone call. They separated by a fence. Did he give some sage advice? Right now there's improvements. I don't know if sage advice is happening. Drunk lawn mowing is probably happening.

[00:04:19] In 2010 I get a call saying that Jim had run his lawn mower into my fence while intoxicated. I got that phone call. Listen. And like we have all been there. I came back, I came home, the fence was broken. I had to fix the fence.

[00:04:33] I didn't charge Jim for it. Well, for the last 10 years he's called the police on me for noise complaints and code violations over and over and over again. Code violations. And I was like what kind of, what are you talking about? What's happening?

[00:04:46] He's like, well when I repaired the fence that he broke, I didn't get a permit for it. Apparently you're supposed to do that. He called the police on me. Hold on. So Randy fixes the fence that Jim broke. That's right.

[00:04:58] Jim claims he doesn't, he hasn't broken it yet. Didn't charge him for it. And then Jim has the gall. Called the assessor to get a permit. He didn't have a permit. That's right. Yeah. He called- Wait, if you're repairing a fence you've already had up.

[00:05:11] It depends on the city and the neighborhood. Wow. I don't think that would be the case. Oh, actually I think it is true in City of Greenville. It's wild. The City of Greenville is crazy with their permits. Their permit crazy.

[00:05:22] I didn't have to get a permit on my fence. Which fence? Oh you didn't? No. Not that I know of. I mean the company did. Yeah. They called someone to come out and spray the lines. Maybe it wasn't a fence. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

[00:05:35] He said when I had my driveway resealed I had to park on the street. Well he would call whenever I was parked in front of my- I've had that neighbor. Yeah. He always called- I'm looking at you.

[00:05:47] Yeah, he always calls me junior because my dad calls me junior. My dad is Randy Davis Sr. And he would always tell me my car was parked in a place to where if my lawnmower hits

[00:05:58] it the damage is actually your fault because your car is parked in front of my house or whatever. To be clear though. You can't sue someone for calling you junior right? You can't. But he just was trying to say he's being belittled. I see.

[00:06:11] And he's just such a terrible driver on a lawnmower. How old is Randy? Randy's like probably in between our ages. He's probably like 38, 37. And Jim's probably like double that. Jim is definitely in his 70s. Old dude.

[00:06:23] He's there and he's like well I moved in over a decade ago and there's just been little disputes. I've never damaged his property at all. That lawnmower accident never happened. Didn't it just didn't happen? Didn't happen.

[00:06:37] Mathis is like Randy got any proof and Randy's like I have a statement from my father who says the accident did happen. Wow. Jim's like not true. Just didn't happen. And Mathis is like so this guy's dad just made this up in court and Jim's like basically

[00:06:52] he's mad because he's been driving across my lawn to get to his lawn. That's where this all started. And Randy's like I don't know what this guy's talking about. He goes he claims the front of the property is a curb but it's not. It's my driveway.

[00:07:07] And he goes over that curb to get into his driveway every time that he goes and parks in his driveway. And Mathis is like what he's like yeah he says it's the curb in between our driveways but it's my driveway. He's very old.

[00:07:21] So Randy's driving over a curb every time he pulls into his driveway. I think in between the two driveways you know how my driveway is not with you but the other neighbor. You know there's that strip of like grass.

[00:07:32] What if that was just a little bit of a whoop. I see. I think that's what he's talking about. He's old. He's clearly like upset. Can you sue for that? I don't. He's not suing. Remember Randy's suing him. Yeah but Jim doesn't have a countersuit.

[00:07:46] Jim is countersuing for emotional distress 15 years ago. So that is okay. So he makes them sad when he gets over his curb. Mathis is like okay so you called the see goes on and off I've called the city. They've given him citations.

[00:07:59] He goes I have citations for him driving on my lawn. He hands in these papers. Mathis reads the papers and he's like sir none of these papers have anything about him driving on your lawn. I need a citation that shows what are those citations.

[00:08:14] They're a parking violation for parking in front of his house or something. And he's like let's just move on. Let's just go on like he's like did you damage his fence. He's like no I didn't damage his fence.

[00:08:27] He's like well what has he done to you like like did he damage it did he damage his well he damaged my lawn Randy damaged my lawn. He's like let me see the pictures. And Mathis is like well this picture your lawn looks perfect.

[00:08:41] He's like oh I gave you the wrong picture. He hands him a different picture. He goes sir your lawn is immaculate. There's nothing and we see the picture. The lawn is pristine. It's perfect. He's like what are you talking like what are what is it you're talking about.

[00:08:56] And he goes well it's really hard to see but if you look closely you can see tire marks in my grass. And Mathis is like no no. Can we just live? Yeah Jim what if this this old guy's also racist. Glad you asked.

[00:09:10] We go back to Randy and he's like oh is Randy a person of color. No they're both white people but just wait for it. Okay he's like so also not he goes so what are you suing for. He goes you're suing for $232.

[00:09:23] It seems like Jim has the problem with you. He goes well Jim has his own personal weed killer that he calls Asian orange instead of Agent Orange. He calls it Asian orange. Oh but why? I don't know why. Agent Orange was used in Vietnam.

[00:09:41] I don't know if Jim served. I don't know what it is. He calls his weed killer Asian orange and Randy's like your honor I don't know what in is in this but it's definitely not legal and he sprayed it and it literally killed

[00:09:53] the grass on the other side of my fence and he brings these pictures and the like foot outside of his his fence is just dirt. He's like it killed all of this.

[00:10:03] Now Jim says that's his property but I also went this 38 year old goes I also went to the land surveyor in the town to give the property line and my property line runs off two and a half feet past the fence. That is my property here's the proof.

[00:10:21] Oh my gosh. So Mathis is like and then on the bottom of the fence line the fence color is different. He goes he sprayed all that stuff. It got all over the fence. The stain won't hold it's retaining water.

[00:10:34] So now I got a bad fence and I got a messed up yard. Mathis is like Jim do you spray? You spray. He goes just roundup. I only spray roundup. I don't know what he's talking about. I just spray roundup.

[00:10:46] I don't know what he that's that's a lie. I don't know what he's talking about lawnmower this Asian orange stuff like I just spray roundup. That's it. And his dad used to spray roundup and that's normal. It's a normal thing that we do here.

[00:10:59] The only thing I ever spray was roundup and in the nine years I've lived here his father has routinely been in the backyard spray and roundup to that's not me. I didn't do that. Mathis is like what about the damage to the lawn? That's always been there.

[00:11:11] Jim goes yeah that's always been there. His lawns always look like dirt around the fence. It's always been there. Oh man. And Mathis goes sir why do you think he's here? Why do you think he's gone through all this trouble?

[00:11:24] And he goes he's suing me because he's mad that I called and got him tickets for parking in front of my house. It's illegal to park there. He got a violation. He's mad and so he's made this stuff up to bring me to court to sue me.

[00:11:39] Pretty good defense. He's mad about defense. And Mathis is like okay what's your counter claim? He's like well I $1500 emotional distress because he's constantly arguing with me and driving over my lawn and parking in front of my curb. Mathis is like well I'm throwing that out immediately.

[00:11:55] Let's get back to the 2032. He's like rainy where do you get $2032 from? He goes I have an estimate of what the repairs are going to cost for the fence and the lawn. Hands on the estimate. And Mathis then turns to Jim and goes I understand you're mad.

[00:12:09] I understand he you think he's mad. And he clearly is about getting tickets and getting called on for noise ordinances and parking in front of your house. I understand that. But do you mean to tell me this man because he was mad at you had estimates written

[00:12:21] up for his yard went to land surveyors and got property lines took pictures just to get back at you for $2000. And Jim says yes sir. And Mathis is ready to rule. Man that's tough.

[00:12:38] I'm trying so the evidence that Randy has brought is the pictures of his grass getting messed up by the. Yard is messed up. No grass is growing and a property a thing that shows that that is his property. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

[00:13:00] I mean the problem is is there's no actual proof of him spraying the agent orange. Asian orange as he calls it on his property. It's part of the court case. You can say Asian orange. Okay. I'm not going to.

[00:13:15] I'm going to choose not to because it feels like a trick. So I think it's tough. I did all this just to make you say Asian orange. Yes, I think I don't think anybody is going to get any money.

[00:13:29] And I think Mathis might just be like, Hey Jim, just chill. Like just chill. It does not matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter someone parks in front of your house every once in a while. Like it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

[00:13:43] So just like try to be a good neighbor. Like let's just try to be good neighbors. We can start fresh right here and we can go from there. I'm going to say no one's getting any money. You're wrong. I love Mathis. He's my favorite for this reason.

[00:13:54] He just doesn't deal any BS. He just looks at Jim and he goes, I just don't believe you sir. I think you're lying and I'm going to judge for in favor of the plaintiff $2032. You need to pay him his money. Well there you go. Yeah.

[00:14:06] I mean can you do that though? Can you just think that someone's lying? I mean one dude went to a land surveyor. How long would it take you to find a land surveyor? Get him out to your property. That's true.

[00:14:21] Like you put in a lot of legwork to make $2,000. I mean if your time is money you spent more than 2000 on that. That's true. Should we take a break? Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll go to Judge Jerry here on Yo! Gaval Gaval.

[00:14:33] Welcome back to Yo! Gaval Gaval. A special we're back edition. That's right. We're heading over to Judge Jerry, Rest and Bees obviously. Obviously. Almost always forget that he's dead. It's just kind of like I forget it and then I remember. And I have to mourn all over again.

[00:14:55] That's a weird thing. He was kind of the worst Jerry Springer. I think yeah, yeah, yeah. Every once in a while a Jerry Springer show clip shows up on my news feed. It was tough time. It was tough time. Tough time.

[00:15:11] Tough time where you just you know like fat shame people and like people would cheer for they loved it. Oh man. Yeah. Anyway. He had a court show. And we live right here. Yes, this is exactly right. Gaval. Louise Shuri is suing Frank Scafuri.

[00:15:28] I'll have to take your word for it here. $4,700. Oh, big money for Gold Chain. A lamp. Some other random stuff. Gold chain though. Yes. A real deal. Gold chain real deal. Frank is countersuing for 2570 for a cushion. A tackle box cushion singular cushion. OK, a Martha Stewart cushion.

[00:15:58] OK, well, yeah, a tackle box and engagement ring. OK, there it is. That's what I was looking for. 4700, 2400, 2500, what is it? 4700, 2570, 2570. Got it. Louise walks in with the Martha Stewart cushion and tackle box and she lays it in the middle of the courtroom. Louise, OK.

[00:16:20] And I guess that's just what she's decided to do here. Man, how cool would court cases be if the thing you're arguing over had to be present? It's pretty good. That's a good idea. So Louise explains that Louise and Frank were engaged for 17 years. Wow. Wow.

[00:16:41] They were engaged, not they didn't know each other for 17 years. They have been engaged for 17 years. And isn't that just common common common law marriage? Common law marriage. Yes. She explains that over the past 17 years, she's done everything for Frank.

[00:16:58] She has spent so much money on Frank over the years as you do when you love somebody. Yeah. Sometimes you spend money on each other. Sometimes you spend money to get your loved one's car out of the impound lot. Yeah.

[00:17:10] Sometimes you go to the hospital when he's had surgery and you feed him ice chips. Sometimes you're there for your loved one after their mom dies. Why did they never get married? Do we get to that? We do get to that. OK, great.

[00:17:22] And she explains that after his mom died a few years ago, he became emotionally, financially and physically abusive. And she says, if I have to, I'll show the evidence. If you're in a court, I know, but she doesn't want to embarrass them. Is what she says.

[00:17:39] Are we going to get to see the evidence? No, not going to get to see that. She didn't have any evidence. So she explains that she went on a girls trip. We love, we love that. Go on the girls trip. We love a good girl.

[00:17:51] We love a girls trip. We love a boys trip. Boys trip. Boys trip. She came back. He was very nasty and like mean. Not like I think you've taken a shower. I don't know as far as I know, it was just being rude. OK, got it.

[00:18:10] And accuses her of cheating on him on this trip with a 75 year old. She's 67. Frank says, Louise, she's like, I would never like a 75 year old. Are you kidding me? Like that. Yeah, so old and Frank is like, Louise, you already have one foot in the grave.

[00:18:31] Of course you're sleeping with a 75 year old. Wow. Got him. She is not taking that well. One day Louise gets a text from a friend showing that Frank is on Facebook dating. I didn't know it existed. And that didn't know it existed. Facebook dating.

[00:18:53] She says that she claims that Aaron is nodding that it does exist. Facebook dating does exist. All right, not your go to Aaron. It's my least favorite of all the dating sites. Yeah, well probably because it's filled with Franks and Louise's out there.

[00:19:08] Yeah, it's people who couldn't find dates on other sites. And yeah, just there. So we see his dating profile and apparently he claimed to her that he was hacked, that it was someone made this profile. It was a hit.

[00:19:25] She then shows a text from a woman that she claims he went to go meet up with. She calls this woman, what was it? How do you say it? Amityville horror? Amityville. Amityville horror hoe is what she calls her. Amityville horror hoe. Yes. Saw them live.

[00:19:47] I think she's located there. I don't know but she keeps saying that over and over again. She caught him sleeping with quote unquote a bar hoe. Oh, bar how? Yeah, run of the mill.

[00:19:59] So Jerry is like, okay, you have told us that he is sometimes rude and that he cheats. What are you suing for? Yeah, let's get to that. And she says I'm suing for the stuff that I have given him over the years, including the gold chain. Yeah.

[00:20:21] Frank's turn to talk. Frank says the first time I met her, I knew I wanted to marry her. She claimed that she was 40 turns out she was 47. She says I said I was in my 40s. Of course.

[00:20:35] He says every few years they would get close to getting married. And she would say I'm not ready yet. And he said one holding this up and he says all I wanted was to get married and to have one more kid.

[00:20:51] She knew that and she kept pushing things back. Yeah, well, she's in her I mean, she's 47. She's now in her 60s. Yeah. Well, she has, yeah, like late, late, early 60s or something. Got it. And so one night at a club, they go to the club.

[00:21:07] Yeah, you can find them in the club. So full of Bob. They're just like different than me. Like when I'm in my 50s, 60s. When you're in your 30s, I'm not going to the club. But I just live differently than they do.

[00:21:21] One night at the club, a guy came up and was like, hey, like, like he knew her and she runs to the bathroom, runs away. And he's like, I knew right then and there she's been cheating on me. She's embarrassed. She's been cheating on me.

[00:21:34] She's like this never happened. Never happened. Very interesting voice. You're doing. Thank you. And he is like. She is suing me for this gold chain. She got me this gold chain for my 50th birthday. She knew I always wanted a gold chain.

[00:21:54] She got me the gold chain for my birthday. Wild. If you think that you think if she just wanted the money instead of the chain, isn't she just suing for the money? The money. Yes. So he gets to keep the gold chain, right?

[00:22:08] In theory, I guess he could give it back, but I don't know. She says, yes, I did buy the chain for him. But it was a conditional gift. I told him, you'll get this gold chain when you stop drinking. Oh, he never stopped drinking.

[00:22:26] And he just took the chain. Look, he stole the chain. I'm going to take it. He's like, that's not true. She gave it to me on my birthday. She knew I always wanted a gold chain. It was a great 50th birthday gift. Which note to self.

[00:22:41] If on your 50th, 50th, I'm going to give you single, solitary gold. I'm going to give you a gold chain for your birthday by black T-shirt 100%. It's great. You'll look awesome. You'll look awesome. Frank Vinn goes to the stuff on the floor. You remember that?

[00:22:56] The stuff on the floor. And he and he's like, this is some of the stuff that I'm suing for. If you look here, this cushion, the top of it's clearly new. And I'll explain to you why it's new. She took a knife to my Martha Stewart cushion.

[00:23:12] What is that? $50 went down. Good stuffing everywhere. Oh boy. If she doesn't still care for me, why'd she get it reupholstered? So stupid. So in short, so stupid if you if you don't mind. In short, she is suing for the gold chain. Yeah.

[00:23:33] A lamp, some other random stuff. He's doing for an engagement. He is suing for an engagement ring. That she claims he stole back from her. When they broke up and ponded, that's where it is. Because she's like, I don't have this ring anymore.

[00:23:50] He's like, you have to have the ring. And she's like, no, you took it and you ponded. He's ready to roll. So I don't know. Jerry does his own thing. He's not even in a court of law. He's just doing Jerry.

[00:24:02] We know that an engagement ring is the only conditional gift. We know that. Right? Yeah. Like it's a gift that you has to be returned if you don't get married, right? Isn't that the rule? We we haven't gabbled like that. Yeah.

[00:24:16] It's the reverse of that where they get to keep it regardless. I'm pretty sure it's the only conditional gift. I think nobody's getting anything. I think everybody's just going to keep their stuff and they need to not talk to each other anymore. That's what I think.

[00:24:30] No, not necessarily. Now he, Jerry explains there's no proof that you said that the chain was conditional and there's no proof that that you have the ring basically or that you don't or whatever. Basically, those two things are going to cancel each other out.

[00:24:49] He says, as you can see, she gave you back your tackle box and your Martha Stewart cushion. What more? Yeah. Can't so you have that back. You have to pay for the other stuff, the the lamp. Other thing is $1,200. OK. She's gonna get $1,200. So ring now.

[00:25:07] That's the gal now. She says quit being so despicable to Frank. Frank says quit being such a hoe. They fight. They're just like she is like, she's like, no, no. She's like, what'd you call me? What? And he's like, I just want to get out of here.

[00:25:27] How do I get out of here? No one is helping him get out of the courtroom. And she's just like, you're just you're a disgrace to America. She's a homeboy. A miracle. And he's like, can someone help me get out of here?

[00:25:40] Never do see him exit the courtroom. Wow. Just say to black. Still there to this day. Still there to this day. And that is. That's how we gavel. Yo gavel gavel right there. If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe.

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