When Calls the Heart - S12E06 - When Autumn Leaves Begin to Fall (2025) ft. Jacklyn Collier

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_06] Hi, I'm Bran and I love When Calls the Heart. Hi, I'm Jax and I like When Calls the Heart. I'm Dan and I despise When Calls the Heart and this is the Deck The Hallmark Podcast. Deck The Hallmark, it's this podcast. And friends host this podcast. We hope you like this jolly podcast. Yep. Yeah. Welcome back everybody. Here we are.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_06] We're halfway through. We're halfway through the 12th season of When Calls the Heart. The worst part of this episode is the fact that we had to stay up until 10pm on a Saturday to watch it. That's when it started. Yeah. How about that? Jax, what do you think is more likely that Hallmark just didn't want to take the week off or that they forgot the Super Bowl was happening and so they had to scramble real quick. Forgot. 100% they forgot, right guys? They forgot. They had to forget. But also...

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01] Oh, but the Chiefs, so if the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl, they didn't know that, but they're Kansas City, baby. They're Kansas City, baby.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03] But also that holiday touchdown did predict a Chiefs-Eagles Super Bowl. How about that? You know, look at that. IMDb is still showing only eight episodes this season. Am I wrong to just hope that that is the case?

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah, man. Dan, you're never wrong to hope. You're never wrong to hope.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03] Even if it is empirically not true?

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_06] When hope calls...

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03] I mean, why would they only list eight episodes if it's more than that?

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_06] Well, because it's IMDb. It's Hallmark. What are you talking about? Hallmark's never updated IMDb on a timely fashion. The fact that they have eight episodes up there right now is a miracle.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_03] Episode eight says Rosemary's Play gets a new venue and a new cast. Does it take the wrong season up here? A new... Rosemary's Play gets a new venue and a new...

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01] They must have meant podcast.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_03] Faith helps a friend make a decision. Lucas faces unexpected opposition. What are you, mad men? Get out of here. Are you kidding me right now?

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_06] Stupid. That is a synopsis from another season. I'm convinced of it.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01] No, because... When did they get a title and episode... Oh, sorry, you go ahead. Guys, I'm getting new internet this week. Don't worry.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_03] Episode six says... The one we just watched, Allie and Oliver discover a threat. Rosemary invites the kids to debate Lucas on the radio. What's next week say? Next week says Elizabeth and Nathan's date night leads to an undercover operation at a glamorous party. Lucas and Edie grow closer over cards. Rosemary holds auditions for a play. Okay, so this is going to be new in the next couple episodes. How about that?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01] That sounds like episode seven is going to be my favorite of the year. Well, let's get ahead of it.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_06] Let's get ahead of it, Jackson.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_03] I can't believe it wasn't this one. Here we go.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_06] I know that it's probably already filmed and done and all that good stuff, but why should Rosemary pick you to be the star for play?

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01] Oh, my gosh. Okay, I love that question. First of all, I'm really fun to have on set. I'm a sweet person. I'm very encouraging. I have a master's in acting, and I can do a variety of dialects. I can also do stage combat, and also I can work as a child wrangler for all of the kids in the school, and you don't even have to pay me extra.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_03] She's oversold it.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01] You're overqualified.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_06] What's stage combat? What are you doing there? Stage combat is a thing you learned.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01] Show you guys next time I'm in town. I can show you how to do all sorts of crazy stuff safely that will look really impressive, like punching people in the face.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_03] My kids and I shot a video this weekend because of all the pressure from the other side of the fence where Bran shoots videos with his kids all the time, and I don't know how to shoot videos. And so we were shooting a Harry Potter video, and they wanted to be Ron and Harry. They're running into platform nine and three quarters, but they don't make it in time, so they just hit it. Yes. And so I taught them how to run into something and slam their hand against it. There you go. Yes, you did. And they... What is the point of being a dad if you can't teach that trick?

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03] They couldn't get over... They were crying laughing about it. That's the new thing. That's the new hot thing.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01] Did they love it so much? Oh, my God.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03] They loved it so much, and then I was like... I think they thought we were going to do the whole movie, and I was like, so what's going to happen is, you know, in the book and the movie, Ron and Harry don't make it, and they have to take the car, the flying car.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03] Well, you guys are going to hit it and fall over, and I'm going to shoot a shot right above you, and one of you is going to go, well, that didn't work, and the other one's going to go, oh, well, school's canceled, and we're going to roll the credits.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_06] Nice. Yeah.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03] Which I thought was a great... Now, what you don't know... Save us two hours and 36 minutes.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_06] Yeah. And it's a great ending. The end. What you don't know is our next movie was also going to be Harry Potter, because he's working on the storyboard as we speak. Yeah. Not as we speak. He's in school right now, but... Well, he might be. I don't know what he's doing at school.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03] They could be doing adding, and he could be doing storyboarding. Yeah. You don't know.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_06] He's big in the storyboard.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03] Well, I'll show you what we got as soon as we're done here. I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see it. Yeah.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01] Are you going to share with the rest of the class? I know you don't post your kids, but you send it to me.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_03] I'll send it to you. Yeah. I'll send it to you for sure. Because I love... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01] Grant, if you want to send me anything, and eventually, if you want me to coach your boys, I'll do a free charge.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_03] My kids are big into it right now. Way bigger... Like, I actually love the directing part of the shooting. Like, I was like, all right, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. I don't love the putting... Like, the editing. Like, that's the part where I just try to keep it all like I'd pause it and play it so I didn't have to do any editing. And then I found one knockoff of the Harry Potter theme, and I put it underneath it. There you go. Boom. Done and done. Bada bing. See ya. Good to go.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_06] Professionally edited. Easy peasy. We're in the movie business.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03] We're in the movie business.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_06] Well, I just got word from Rosemary you didn't get it, Jax. You didn't get it.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03] I think you oversold. When she said Child Wrangler, she oversold it. That was the thing.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01] That's okay. Honestly, I'm looking for other options. You didn't want it anyway.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_06] You didn't want that. You didn't book that one because you didn't want it. I didn't want it anyway. Your heart wasn't in it, and they knew that.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01] They could tell. Honestly, I think they'd be intimidated.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_06] You think so? Intimidated by...

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01] No, I actually don't. They're all very good, well-trained actors also.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_06] Do they have masters? Do they have their masters, though?

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. Cranko does. I've got to be honest.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03] You weren't including all the kids in that, were you, when you used the two monikers, good and well-trained, right?

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00] They didn't come to mind immediately.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_03] File it at TVSSTTH for that live reaction.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_06] Let's talk about When Calls to Heart, season 12, episode 9.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_03] Episode 6, if you can believe it.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_06] I'm sorry, episode 6. I'm wishful thinking.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Can you believe it?

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_06] Episode 9, can you believe it?

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03] I can't because it's not true. The name of the episode? Fantasy Island.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_06] No, it's not Fantasy Island. Jax? Not a bad one, though, right? It's not bad. Fever Dream, baby. Ooh, that would have been better. Fever Dream. When Autumn Leaves Begin to Fall.

[00:07:01] Boo!

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_06] I don't know. I just read the thing. Premiered on Saturday night, February 8th at 10 p.m. Just take the week off. Take the day off. I don't want a little something like this. Let's get back to it right after this break. Synopsis coming up now. Ellie is in her emo era. Everything is dying. Speaking of dying, Elizabeth might be dying.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_06] She's getting real sick, which includes a fever dream, if you will. A dream sequence of Nathan saving her life. Looking real good in the process. He's got his surge on. It's a surge protector. I don't know. Yeah. The nut business is being kicked out of Lucas' office. Who's Lufus? A quick update on the nut business.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_06] Fiona is helping Rosemary with radio stuff. A reminder that Fiona is a tech whiz.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02] That's right.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_06] And that includes an idea of having the governor, one Governor Lucas, debate some children live on the air. And he reluctantly agrees to this proposal. Allie decides to hang out with Oliver, seeing as how Wyatt said no to her wanting to hang out with him. You get what I'm saying. And basically, this all starts by her just trying to make Wyatt jealous. Yeah. They'll be like, I'm going to go hang out with Oliver.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_06] And Wyatt does not care. Bill is shocked to find out that a hot honey that he knew from back in the day is in town. They studied forensics together years ago. And the sparks are flying. Sick Elizabeth ogles Nathan in her dreams. And then when he comes back, she asks him to put on his search. More Dewey, less talk.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_06] Allie and Oliver go out to the pond to do some tests for the stream.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03] Are the salmon spawning? I've been asked.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_06] The salmon are not spawning. What? I know.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03] They spawn every year. What do you mean they're not spawning? They're not spawning. The water must be too warm. If I know anything about marine biology. The water's too warm. Wow. Interesting.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_06] On their way back, they see cattle tracks. And that's like if you have the cattle and then the warm water, you do the rest of the math there. It's pretty clear. Habitats. They have to hide. Ecosystems. They have to hide because they hear some guys coming on horses. And so they got to scurry. Bill and Eagle Eye McGill. That's her name. X-Ray McGill. X-Ray McGill. Yeah, come on. Go to question some guy named Sonny.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_06] About the gold coins. So I guess Rosemary's off the case. And that's big fun. Elizabeth keeps having fantasies about Nathan as if he's a piece of meat. At one point, Nathan pours water on himself. The radio show happens and Ali brings him the cold hard facts to Governor Lucas about the salmon problem.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_06] And he's like, I will look into the salmon spawning problem. There's a whole storyline in here about Joseph trying to get his daughter into the school. Do you remember the school situation? Yes. And he did this without talking to Minnie first. They work through it, though. Ali tells Oliver about the radio show thing, and he's impressed with her and her cupcakes.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05] I don't mean anything by that. I don't mean... I didn't mean it. I didn't mean anything by it. Why would you... He is... He says these are really impressive cupcakes.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01] Well, they're technically Elizabeth's cupcakes.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_05] Okay, fine. I don't know.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01] He's impressed with Elizabeth's cupcakes.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_06] He's impressed with Elizabeth's cupcakes.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00] This might get complicated.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_06] I wasn't trying to do a thing here. Elizabeth is starting to feel better, and Fiona encourages her to publish her curriculum about project-based learning.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03] Oh, man. It's going to rock the world in four years.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_06] And the episode ends with Nathan having a steamy dream about Elizabeth, and he wakes up, sneezes, and the dog was licking him. And I guess he's sick now, too. And that, my friends, was When Calls the Heart Season 12, Episode 6. That's when autumn leaves begin to fall. We did it. Super Bowl edition. Super Bowl edition. Big game edition. Sorry. Big game. Can't say. Can't say Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Let's do this.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_06] Let's take a break. Let's take a break. I love it. We'll come back, and we will...

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_03] If you can hit the right button here, it'd be big, big. Okay. Be real big.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_06] Hereon, Deck the Hallmark. I'm lonely.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01] Welcome back.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_06] Welcome back, everybody.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01] Wait, that's you, Bran, right? That's you saying that?

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_06] It's not me. Thank you, though, for it.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01] It's not.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_06] It's a long story. It's a long story.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_03] We've not done this with you, Jax. That, I'm lonely, is not a song. I'm lonely. That is a line of dialogue someone said, supposedly speaking, not singing, from a movie we watched this year.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01] Wait, which one?

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_03] It was on a not Hallmark. It was on a different network. She is not... There's no music playing in the scene. So, like, we're watching music. But in the scene, she's in a room, and her and her husband are having a big fight, and she says... She's just...

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01] Lonely.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03] Lonely. She's not singing there. No. Not.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01] Wait, but that's not her.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03] That's her. That's her. That's the actual line taken from the movie as played in the movie. There's anything to it. He didn't edit that. Here's the whole line. Here's the whole line. Can you play it one more time? Here's the whole line.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02] Okay.

[00:12:58] Come on.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_03] That is actually what happens in the movie. Guys. And she is not singing.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01] Guys, that's amazing. We thought it was Bran, and I was utterly delighted by it. Some more. But now I'm just... I'm going to need... This is an action. Oh, yeah.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_06] We'll get you a line. We'll get you a line. The movie is a really fun watch. So I would encourage you to... Do you remember the name of it? I never do. I always forget the title of it.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03] Christmas with my ex?

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_06] Christmas with my ex. Yeah, that sounds right. That's exactly how that goes in that movie.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03] Christmas with my ex. Shout out. Christmas with my ex.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_06] Let's talk about this episode of When Calls the Heartless. Share our hot takes on it. We're not going to hold back, even though it aired at a different time. We have to be fair about this. Jax, what did you think of episode six of season 12?

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01] I said it before. I'll say it again. When Calls the Heart is the horniest show on television. These fever dreams, they were fun, you guys. Like, look, I'll say it straight up because I think you guys will have valid criticisms of this episode. And I get it. Does it move along any sort of big story for the season? Absolutely not. Does it really have a plot that's compelling? Also no.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01] But does it have some scenes between characters that, you know, I'm enjoying and some fun relationship development? Yeah. It was great to get to see Elizabeth wasted because we're never going to get to see that on When Calls the Heart. And she drank three bottles of cough medicine. And we get to enact all these fantasies. And then finally, I'm just going to say, you guys, I am so happy that Melissa Gilbert was

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01] in this episode because she's a fantastic actress.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_06] Little House on the Prairie fan. I knew that. Yeah, class of the house on the prairie fan. I had to tell you that, Jax. I wanted the credit. I wanted the credit.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01] Okay. Are you guys fans of Megyn Kelly from Fox News?

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_06] No.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01] Great. Just wanted to clear that up.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03] I was like, am I?

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01] I did want to set it up just in case. So basically, you know, Megyn Kelly was like tweeting in Netflix and saying like, oh, you better not make that, you know, remake woke. And here's what Melissa Gilbert of Little House on the Prairie fame. Thank you, Brand, for letting me know she's on that show. Here's what she said.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_05] Hot dog, as I call her.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01] She said, watch the original again. TV doesn't get too much more woke than we did. We tackled racism, addiction, nativism, anti-Semitism, misogyny, rape, spousal abuse, and every other woke topic you can think of. Thank you very much. Wow. Now she's on One Calls to Heart, playing opposite Jack Wagner, who from his surprising Instagram likes that I've noticed seems more conservative than I would have liked.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01] So I bet there's a lot of snap, crackle, pop on set, and I can't wait to see where this goes.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03] Jack's just crushing the hot take as per usual.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_06] You know, I gotta be honest with you. First of all, I disagree about the fantasy sequences. I did not think they were fun. I thought that they were cheap. And a clear like, hey.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03] It's the most meta this show has ever been.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_06] It rubbed me the wrong way, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but it rubbed me the wrong way. Were they fun and silly? And I'm sure they had fun doing it. Yeah, of course. But it rubbed me the wrong way, and I can't quite put my finger on it. I also thought that, not Megyn Kelly, but the woman who's mad at Megyn Kelly in real life. I thought that she was that woman. Melissa Gilbert. That Bill had that thing with a couple seasons ago. Was that like his ex-wife? Do you remember this?

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03] That actor, they've done movies together.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_06] I know. But when she first came on screen, I was like, oh. Josie Bissette? Yeah, Josie. Josie. And when they first came on screen, this shows how much that I've been paying attention. When it first happened, I was like, oh, she's back. And it wasn't until later, I was like, oh, she's this. When they were on the train talking about the forensics thing, I was like, oh, this is a new character. It's a whole new thing. So then I had to do that. But you know what? They were good together.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_06] I think the problem, though, is now that that's happening, Bill and Rosemary are no longer the tag team crime fighting duo that we were promised earlier in this season. And that was the thing that I was most excited about for the season. And so now I'm a bit disgruntled. And people, you're already coming at me, people. That's, Brand, you're such a prude. The fantasy sequence was for fun. I don't know what to tell you. It rubbed Brand the wrong way.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_06] Call me prude. Call me old fashioned. I don't want that near my wind calls to heart. I think I didn't like it.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05] I didn't like it, Dan.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. So first of all, just as a sidebar, this is one of the worst episodes of television I've ever seen of any kind. And I I'll say that first. So you don't know. You're not confused about where I stand. A couple of things. One of the absolute worst episodes of television I've ever seen in my life. This the fantasy sequences. I think you said while we were watching this, this isn't wind calls the heart. And I think so there's one group of people who watch this because it's chased and it's very much not what we saw during this episode before Super Bowl Sunday.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03] Uh, I didn't like it because this show cannot wink at itself. This is not community. It's not weird. Al Yankovic. It's not like you cannot make wind calls the heart a show that knowingly winks at itself. It is too serious.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_06] A television. That's interesting though. If weird Al was on an episode, do you think it would save it for you? It would. Yeah, absolutely. It would. But like you brought it up.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03] There are shows like Arrested Development, my favorite comedy of all time, like made an entire living of just being very meta and talking about its existence while being a television show. This is not that. And so the people that the fantasy sequences work for are people that they watch the show purely for Kevin McGarry or people like Jax who are like, these are fun. It's silly. This is a fun thing. We are in season 12 of a television program and we all know that by that point, most ideas

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_03] are on the table, unfortunately. So am I surprised that this happened? No. Did I like it? No. Here's why this is such a bad episode of television. One, I think that the Melissa Gilbert thing was tough for us and obviously this television program isn't for us because that was kept a big secret. There was an embargo on the review of this episode because of the presence of Melissa Gilbert that they kept a secret. When they reveal her, I did not know who it was. Didn't know. Didn't know who it was and I get it. If that makes me uncultured, that's fine.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_03] But the problem is not that. Melissa Gilbert seems, from all I've heard, like a wonderful person. The problem is that three episodes ago, we had one thing we were excited about and it was Bill and Rosemary doing the thing we wanted them to do last year, which was on an adventure solving a case. And I said, if they get more than 50 minutes, it'll be the best season they've had in a long time. And I started doing a count and it took two episodes for them to bail on that altogether. They have, it's done. Bill and Rosemary are no longer cracking the case.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_03] They're not going to be together doing any of this. And I'm sure Melissa Gilbert was wonderful to see for people who love her and love the show. But for me, it represented yet another time where wind calls the heart has something and they go, nah, that would be too good for this television program. Let's not do it. And that's what they did here. Bill and Rosemary are not going to solve a case. It's not going to happen. Have I mentioned salmon spawning yet?

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03] You know why I haven't? Because it's the most boring thing you could ever talk about. I, Ali and Ali are on a, an ecosystem animal rights campaign that would have been laughed out of the building in the 1920s and is so boring. I think I'd rather just watch a commercial. Like, could you do like extra commercials aside from let me take the temperature of this water. I'm Ali. The water's too warm.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_03] That's why the salmon aren't spawning. Look, cow tracks. Guys, I only get to live one time. I only get to live. This is it. This is my one time to live. As far as we know. One thing about this show that was working was Bill and Rosemary solving a case. Instead, I got stunt casting and salmon spawning and five Kevin McGarry splash water on my face. PG slash X rated fantasy scenes. God almighty.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_06] I gotta be honest though with your luck. Even if you did live a second life, you'd still have to watch. I won't. That's your cross.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_03] And we also are implying that the only way that Aaron Craiko can have a sexual fantasy is drugged up. Guys. Drugged up and sex. This is a problem. This is a problem. This is not healthy. This show sucks. This episode sucks compared to the show.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_06] I actually just got word and this is true. They actually did. They didn't move the show because of the Super Bowl. They moved it because they couldn't air this on the Sabbath. You couldn't air it on the Sabbath. That's pretty big. Keep it holy. You know what I mean? Big if true. Yeah. Big if true. It's time for all the feels. That's where we talk about what. Sheesh. In this episode, it gave us feels. Jax?

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01] Sorry. I'm so tickled by the two of you that I'll have to. I'll say my. I do have a couple feels. But as I was thinking of the feels, I had a feel just from this podcast. So wait. Have they called Oliver Ollie? Or were you just calling him Ollie? I don't know.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03] I thought it was cute when you did it. I thought they said Ollie in the episode. If I made it up myself, shout out to me. I'm going to say Dan. I coined Ollie. Dan's coining Ollie. I think you coined it. Ollie is actually their shipping name, Oliver and Ollie. Yes. I was just going to say it. I'm Ollie.

[00:23:10] Yes.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01] I'm Ollie. And it made me so happy while you were talking. I was so just tickled by that. So that was a feel. Let's talk about Ollie using our ship name. You guys, honestly, I thought this acting was the best we've seen from Jada, who plays Allie. She's doing lovely work in this episode. This kid who plays Oliver is so good. Dan's giving me the look. I swear to you, though. Really good work in this episode.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01] And when they both confess about their parents being in prison, I don't know the vulnerability you guys had got to me. And I actually did tear up. And I thought it was really, really sweet. And I was very moved. I was very moved by this.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03] That's sweet. Yeah. Do you believe that, Jax? What you just said? No, no, no, no.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01] Well, I do stand behind truly that I think this was the best work she's done that I've

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03] ever seen. Got it. Got it.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01] And that is true. And I think it was good work.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03] That's right. Great.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01] I feel like now I'm saying it in a way that makes it seem worse.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03] You mean you stand behind it like so you can't be seen? That's funny. That was good. Did you come up with that?

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01] It's good work, you guys. Look, these kids grew up on the show. They're learning how to act as it goes. And she's doing a good job.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_06] I just want to say, I want to get out ahead of this. As the person who has been the most pro-Ali, I think in the history of Deck the Hallmark, I have been consistently pro-Ali. My biggest fear is this show becomes the Ali and Ali show. It's the worst. That's my biggest fear. If it's every... Time out.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_03] I'm sorry. Go back to Jax. Jax, I know that you said that you thought the acting was good. And that's fine. That is totally fine. You thought that plot line was good?

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, I mean, I...

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03] Oh, that's interesting.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01] No, I think...

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_03] That was the most boring thing ever, right?

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01] Oh, with the salmon?

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01] Oh, yeah. The salmon thing is awful. But then getting to talk... The salmon is like inconsequential to me. I honestly forgot about it. I was like, they're talking about their trauma. And whatever activity we're going to do talking about our trauma, whether it's milkshakes at a diner, not in Hope Valley, but you know... At the max? You know what?

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_06] You've convinced me. This is the best episode of the season.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_03] Well, my trauma... I didn't see what... My trauma were field trips to Paris Mountain, where we spent the day measuring the temperature of water. And I thought, now that I'm not in... Shout out to Paris Mountain, though.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_06] A great establishment here. Paris Mountain's amazing.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_03] And the water is pH 7.4. You could drink it straight out of the stream.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_06] That's exactly right.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03] But I thought since I was out of school now, I didn't have to do that anymore. But apparently, you can still take an educational field trip on Wind Calls the Heart. It's project-based learning, B. That's what it is.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01] Okay. Just a quick question for both of you. Do you think if we're going by who had the most dialogue in this episode, it might have been out.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_03] Allie might have been one. Yeah. It might be one. Because a lot of McGarry's time is spent just throwing water on himself.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_06] I would like to take this to the tape and time it. I mean, I don't really want to if someone wants to do it for me. Yeah. I think that Allie might be top three for the season. Yeah. For dialogue on screen. Three on the call sheet. Allie. Which is interesting. That's a lot of things. I don't want to... We're on episode six, and I feel bad already recycling fields. But can we go back to Rosemary's little xylophone?

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_06] I said this a few weeks ago, and not one of you emailed me a pocket xylophone and been like, hey, I found it. And that bums me out, because I don't know why we're doing this if not to get me a pocket xylophone. And I do want to get that. So I'm going to get ahead of it now. I'm going to be like, I'm going to make it as clear as possible. Find me that xylophone. Dan?

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_03] Any feels? All of my feels were expressed in my hot take. I think I'm good.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_06] I think I'm good. All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back, and we'll get to the way what's in the hopes and values here on Deck the Hallmark. I don't want a baby one. I don't want a baby xylophone. I want a pocket xylophone. That's an important distinction. Let's get to the way what's.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_06] That's where we're talking about what in this episode made us go away what. I'll start with you, Jax.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. So it is interesting. I feel like we just keep restarting every week in terms of a whole slew of characters we don't even see.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_03] What is this show about right now? What's the big driving plot line?

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01] What's the big drive? Exactly. There's not really one. We didn't see Edie this episode. We didn't see Faith. We haven't seen Lily. We haven't seen Baby Jack. We haven't seen Maysue or Hickam. Maysue and Hickam.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03] I forgot they existed. Oh, my goodness.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01] A big wait what was where are all they?

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02] Yep.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01] We've kind of lost the plot line with Ava a little bit. What's going on with the trunk that it's not hers? But, like, they're not giving me enough, so I'm not as invested in it. And the wait what, and this is a testament to these actors who are really great. Like, Kayla Wallace and Viv Leacock in this scene where, you know, he's like, you shouldn't have to, you know, sacrifice everything to, you know, do what's right by God, do what's right by yourself. That's not verbatim. It was much more eloquent and performed much better than that.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01] But I'm like, I just need this to be more of the show.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_03] That was the best scene of this episode by a mile.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01] Why aren't we giving it more time? Why? I, like, honestly, like, even if you only have Kayla for, I don't know, like, a week or less, like, just work that girl back to back and just shoot as much as you can. Maybe they did. Maybe they only had a day with her. Maybe they only had two days with her. But, yeah.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_03] Fair enough. Sounds more like the hot take. Fair enough, Jackson. Yeah.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_06] Listen, I, Nathan is painted in this episode as being some sort of, like, romantic hero. Yeah. But my guy consistently leaves his very, very sick girlfriend to fend for herself. And it's like, you good? You good, shoddy? All right. Thumbs up. I'll be back later. Buddy, just, like, take the day. Take the day. And just, like, care for her. Like, he's just, it just, it was out to lunch. Did I use that phrase correctly? Yeah, you nailed it. Out to lunch.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_06] Allie kept cupcakes wrapped in her, wrapped up in a napkin in her bag, which is crazy to me. That is crazy.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04] And they didn't get smushed.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_06] They looked perfect. It's crazy. If I were to put a cupcake in my backpack, it wouldn't take more than two seconds for that sucker to be destroyed. Crumpster's falling out everywhere. Hers, perfect. No problem there. Also, shout out to this town who, in days maybe, they come up with this idea for the radio show. They get it approved. It goes on the air.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_06] And from coming up with the idea to going on the air, I'm guessing it was a day or two, tops? Oh, yeah. But it was enough time for them to make a banner. Made banner. To make a banner.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_03] Hand-stitched banner.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_06] That they have hanging on her desk, even though it's radio and the people at home can't see it. They have made banner.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03] They've made banner.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_06] They've made banner. And that's impressive. And that's the type of commitment that you can get only in Hope Valley. Dan?

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Shout out to the fact that after watching Elizabeth's fantasies of Nathan, which are, to Jax's point, the horniest thing you're going to see on television, Nathan's fantasy of Elizabeth is so chaste, just so sweet. It's like Nathan would never, like he would never sexualize Elizabeth. Like he wouldn't. He wouldn't.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03] Just a typical Mountie who is just above, even in his wildest fantasy, she is fully clothed doing laundry. Yeah. Like in Elizabeth's fantasy, Nathan is like half undressed, like just shirt, just skin tight, water all over him. Pouring a gallon of milk on his head. And in Nathan's fantasy of Elizabeth, Aaron Crako is wearing a Sunday morning dress, doing the laundry.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03] Frolicking through the field. I mean, just full, like full G-rated, like shout out to Mountie Nathan. Above and beyond. Even in his dreams, keeping it G-rated. I mean, that's respect right there. That's a good boy. That's respect this guy has.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_06] And you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. Listen, Nathan, above and beyond, above and beyond, even in his dreams. Did this cross your mind at all, Jax?

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01] I actually was annoyed. Yeah. I think about her doing chores. I was like, okay. Yeah. I am a sexual being. I don't just cook your meals and do, not me, Elizabeth. I want that.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03] I want that, Lee. You can cut that so easily. You got that, Lee. So easily cut right there. Perfect. But I love that. I don't know what we're going to do with that, but we'll have it. Yeah. I just, that was the wildest thing to me was when we get to that last fantasy. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Whatever you say, guys. Bill's like, he's talking to Melissa Gilbert. He's like, they used to call you X-Ray McGill.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_03] I guess that was back when they were in that class of co-ed forensics program in the 1800s. You know, Jax, you're familiar with all the co-ed science forensics departments in the 1800s in the United States of America. Men and women was going to school beside each other, being educated at a high level. It was just so common back then.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00] She said she was the only woman and all the other men looked at her like she was a woman, but not Bill.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03] Not Bill. No, he had fantasies like Nathan Grant, just above board. She's just ironing some clothes and like a long sleeve frock. Yeah. So yeah, old X-Ray McGill over there. Hey, is grilled cheese now the Queen of Hearts? Is it like amazing? Is it a special or is it the only thing they serve these days? Because they said grilled cheese in four different scenes.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03] It used to be like Gustav's making a goulash and a blah, blah, blah. Now, every time they talk about the Queen of Hearts, it's like, did you, could you get me a grilled cheese? Rest in peace, obviously. Rest in peace, obviously, to Gustav, who's just not around anymore. But the grilled cheese is it. It's the only thing they're talking about from the Queen of Hearts. The only food they sell. If you're getting food there, it's a grilled cheese. That's it. That's the only thing we possibly have.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_03] You know how when you're really sick and have to sleep all the time, how your really young four-year-olds just leave you alone because they get it? Oh my gosh. Dan. You know what I'm talking about, Brandon. Great. If you get the flu, I remember when my kids are eight and a half now and they're super helpful. When they were like four, four and a half, they understood. They understood. I couldn't really get out of bed. They were totally respectful of that and they didn't need anything. They were pretty self-sustaining.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_06] Made their own mac and cheese.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_03] It was almost like they weren't in the house when I had the flu. That's how quiet they were. Guys, this is crazy. Erin Craiko has the flu. She, for days on end, and her child is not in this episode. Isn't in it. Didn't make the cut. They just are like, she's sick. Well, obviously you don't have to take care of kids when you're sick. It doesn't happen.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_06] He had to be somewhere though because she may, he sent a card.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01] It was, I thought, I didn't. He said the card.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03] He went to a way camp for when mom is sick.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01] It felt, it felt wild because she did mention that, that they couldn't go with Nathan and Allie because he had plans with, I guess his nanny Talia. But then he wasn't in school when Rosemary was substituting. Nope. And I was like, wait, what is going on?

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_03] He is non-existent. He, when he hears mom has a fever, he just disappears until it's back to 98.9. Hey guys. Baby Jack, are you there?

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah, what's up everybody? Jacks, how you doing girl? Oh good. We missed you this episode, little guy. Yeah. Trust me, I missed it too. I missed that paycheck. You know what I mean?

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. Sure. Where were you? What was the, what was the whole plan there?

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04] They didn't have one.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_03] That's the whole thing. Yeah.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_04] I come on set, I got my cigarettes and they say, hey, put those out, but we're about to go. And the next thing you know, they're done. And they said, sorry.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_03] So you, you couldn't be on the show cause you had cigarettes.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_04] I don't know.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03] You don't know.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_04] For that, for sure.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03] For sure.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_04] I'm on, I'm on more, I'm on other episodes for some reason, this one, they said no.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_03] Okay.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_04] And that affects me. My bottom line.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01] I got people that I gotta pay. Are they candy cigarettes, baby Jack? Yeah. Jack's sick. Candy cigarettes.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_03] All right. We're going to get somebody in trouble here. So you are, do you think that the baby Jack would have been really helpful when Elizabeth got the flu? He would have been great. Yeah. He would have been great.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_04] Give him an opportunity.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04] Let him do some work around the house.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_03] Work around the house. Yeah. Of course.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_04] My toys were in the shot.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_03] Toys were in the shot. We're looking really cluttered for a kid that's not there.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_04] That's what I'm saying.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Yeah. You got robbed here, buddy.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_04] Literally.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03] Next pack of menthols is on me. All right, buddy?

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_04] As if I would. Wink, wink.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03] Candy menthols.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04] Right.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_04] 100%.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_03] 100%.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_04] Of course. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye, Jacks.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03] Bye, baby Jack.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01] Bye. So good to talk to you, baby Jack. You as well.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_06] That's all I have in the way what department. It's time for Hopes and Values. This is where we talk about what in this episode gave us hope for the future. I'm bumming us out. Jacks, what you got?

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01] Look, I am so hopeful. Are you kidding me? Edie's coming back and there's going to be a play in Hope Valley. I cannot wait.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00] This isn't even, I'm not even putting this on as an act.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_03] Time out. 30 seconds. Had I not read you the plots for the next two episodes, Jacks, what would be your hopes and valleys from this episode of television?

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01] See, now that is tricky. That's a trick question. That is tricky. Who's Edie? Edie is Chris McGalley.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_06] Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? Oh, that's right. That's right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's new here.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01] It's okay. I'm new in town.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02] New in town.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01] I would be hoping for more, Fiona. I'm hopeful we'll see more of that storyline because it looks like she's not going to marry that guy. And my valley is, I fear that we're not going to have any updates on Ryan and Aaron. I thought that we were investigating and I haven't heard anything in a couple weeks. Oh, that's right.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_06] Oh, yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. Shout out. Aaron. Hi, Aaron. Any word from your- What's going on? Valentine's Day is coming up this Friday. Your middle school crush, Ryan? What's going on? You and Ryan? Yeah, my sixth grade crush. Oh, sixth grade. Wow.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01] Yeah. Just- No updates, Jax. I'm so sorry. Okay. It's okay. I'm still pulling for you, girl.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:39:02] Yeah.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. I think we all are. I'm going to- That name is actually-

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01] You forgot about it. Yeah, you did. Oh, don't act like we're all jumping on the bandwagon now.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03] That ship name is Rarant.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_05] Rarant.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03] It's Rarant. It's Rarant to go. It's Rarant to go.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_05] It doesn't seem like it is.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03] It's Rarant to go.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_05] Seems like we're the only ones putting in work over here remembering names and stuff.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03] Fixing to get Rarant. Rarant to go.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_06] That's right.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01] Fixing to get Rarant.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_06] Still a couple days until Valentine's Day. That's all I'm saying. It's still a couple days. So I got to be honest. I'm a little turbed here. A little turbed? A little turbed. Seven o'clock. I'm a little turbed here because we had Gowan for one storyline and one storyline only, and it was the nuts.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_06] And we all knew as long as the nuts were in Lucas's office, the nut business and the nuts storyline and Gowan's storyline in relation was still alive and well. And now the nuts are gone. They kicked the nuts out. Gowan had one scene. And that's exactly right. And it was packing up the nuts.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_06] And now I'm real concerned because if we have the rest of this season and we don't get any more Gowan, I'll be real bummed.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_03] It's the least amount of Gowan we've ever had.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_06] It's the least amount of Gowan we've ever had. For sure, right? And I was hopeful we were setting up this thriving nut business.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_06] And we had it. And we let it go. We said, get out of here. Lucas is moving back into his office. I don't know. I don't know. I'm bothered by that. And would really like the opportunity to see Gowan and the nut business thrive. Give him an episode. Give it a bottle episode. Gowan.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03] Just all hazelnuts.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_06] All hazelnut all the time. I would really appreciate that. That would get me on board. Dan?

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. I think you have to be hopeful at a time like this. I mean, we're in like you can't get lower. There is no hell like a mid-season Wind Calls the Heart episode. Like, show me a, you know, episode five or six where they really do stuff. Like, big things happen. I don't, it doesn't happen. So, I'm hopeful that it has to be more meaningful than this. I have no choice but to be because I have to watch this television program. So, I'm trying my best here. But this is as bad as it's ever been.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_06] So, what about the season finale of Crandall's Store Home? Ooh, man, that could be a good one. You didn't like that though. When did that happen? I'm sorry. A few years ago. You said there's no low like mid-season Wind Calls the Heart. And I'm saying what about the season finale of Crandall's Store Home? Did that take place in Wind Calls the Heart? No, it was a, no. You're mishearing what I'm saying. There was a show that you and I used to watch.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03] But I would still take that. Okay. That's what I was asking. Over any episode of Wind Calls the Heart. That's what I was asking. That's right. Even the good ones.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_06] Let's get to the hope in What's Calling My Heart. What's Calling My Heart. That's where we read the email. You can send one in. Hello at DougTheHomer.com of something that's calling in your heart, bringing a little bit of joy right now. Dan, who do we have today?

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_03] This is Teresa Karp emailing in. She says, hi, Brand Dan and Jax. Hello. What's Calling My Heart was being able to spend two weeks over the holidays with my daughter in Europe. Oh. Since she started college three years ago, the longest she has been at home is about for three weeks over the Christmas holiday. Her summer jobs have always been out of town. She applied for a grant from her university to study the acoustics in symphony halls. She's a double major. Whoa. You ready for this?

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_03] She's a double major in ocean engineering and music performance on the bassoon. She worked on the proposal for almost a year before the grant was awarded. We left the 29th of December for our trip to Edinburgh, Scotland, Bruges and Brussels in Belgium and Reykjavik, Iceland. Wow. We heard some wonderful music from the Scottish Chamber Orchestra and the Iceland Symphony. We celebrated her 21st birthday with beers in Belgium.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03] We attended a, don't know that word, a sealed, sealed it. I'm just going to assume she spelled Celtic dance, Celtic, Celtic dance for New Year's in Scotland and got to see the Northern Lights in Iceland. Wow. We did so much more, but these were some of the highlights. These are memories I know the two of us will cherish for the rest of our lives. Signed, Terry Karp. That's unbelievable. There you go.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01] Terry, that is so beautiful in that you guys have a connection like that. Like, I just, that's really beautiful. That's better.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_03] This email was way better than this episode deserved. Here we go.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01] I mean, the plot of that would be like a whole season of, like a Gilmore Girls, but cooler, more elevated.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_03] We learned something here. This, a Kaylee dance. It's spelled C-E-I-L-I-D-H. Wow. Kaylee dance is a social event at which there is Scottish or Irish folk music and singing, traditional dancing and storytelling. So it was a, it's a Kaylee dance is how you say that word.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_06] Dan said it must be Celtic and I said, there's no way, bud. There's no way.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_03] No way.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_06] Of course. Luckily we Googled that. Thanks for calling me there. You knew, Brad. I didn't know much, but I knew there's no way. Of course. Of course. Thanks, Terry. Thank you, Terry. And thank you, Jax. Thanks. So much fun. Thank you, guys. So much fun today. And we're only halfway through this season, so. Oh, really? More to go. More to go. So come on back next week. We're looking forward to it. Yeah, we are. Until then, maybe the first to wish you a Merry Christmas.

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